As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The outer
circumference, which will be the 4' diameter, will be cut on my band saw
by setting up a jig that has a pivot 2' from the blade. I'm looking for
suggestions for the best way to cut the inner diameter which will be at
2' - 4" giving the "ring" a 10" width. The material is 3/4" thick. So
far I'm thinking my jig saw or my router with a fence set at 10" and
multiple passes. Any other suggestions? As always, thanks in advance!!
Mark and Kim Smith wrote:
> As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The outer
> circumference, which will be the 4' diameter, will be cut on my band
> saw by setting up a jig that has a pivot 2' from the blade. I'm
> looking for suggestions for the best way to cut the inner diameter
> which will be at 2' - 4" giving the "ring" a 10" width. The material
> is 3/4" thick. So far I'm thinking my jig saw or my router with a
> fence set at 10" and multiple passes. Any other suggestions? As
> always, thanks in advance!!
>
Sabre Saw?
On 27 Jul 2004 12:30:13 EDT, Mark and Kim Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The outer
>circumference, which will be the 4' diameter, will be cut on my band saw
>by setting up a jig that has a pivot 2' from the blade. I'm looking for
>suggestions for the best way to cut the inner diameter which will be at
>2' - 4" giving the "ring" a 10" width. The material is 3/4" thick. So
>far I'm thinking my jig saw or my router with a fence set at 10" and
>multiple passes. Any other suggestions? As always, thanks in advance!!
If you are doing a lot of this you can do what I did.
I have a router insert in my table saw extension I never used much.
I made an insert for my jigsaw and a simple melamine jig for the tablesaw top
that went right or the insert and allowed spinning the work on any center.
I made 4 ft round table tops this way out of 2" thick pine.
You need a top end jigsaw however.
On 27 Jul 2004 12:30:13 EDT, Mark and Kim Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The outer
>circumference, which will be the 4' diameter, will be cut on my band saw
>by setting up a jig that has a pivot 2' from the blade. I'm looking for
>suggestions for the best way to cut the inner diameter which will be at
>2' - 4" giving the "ring" a 10" width. The material is 3/4" thick. So
>far I'm thinking my jig saw or my router with a fence set at 10" and
>multiple passes. Any other suggestions? As always, thanks in advance!!
Do you know how to weld or solder a bandsaw blade?
If you do cut the inner circle the same way you did the outside one.
TED
On 27 Jul 2004 12:30:13 EDT, Mark and Kim Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The outer
> circumference, which will be the 4' diameter, will be cut on my band saw
> by setting up a jig that has a pivot 2' from the blade.
Two thoughts:
1. Lathe and faceplate.
2. Router and templates.
Dave Hinz
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:05:09 +0200, Juergen Hannappel <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dave Hinz <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> On 27 Jul 2004 12:30:13 EDT, Mark and Kim Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The outer
>>> circumference, which will be the 4' diameter,
>>
>> Two thoughts:
>> 1. Lathe and faceplate.
>
> With 4' this lathe will be a rather large one...
OK, I'll freely admit that I misread this. BUT - a lathe head has
two sides, does it not? If the centerline of the spindle is more than
2' off the floor, then you can turn something as big as you want. Need
a spindle that is drilled through and some creativity, but it could be done.
On 27 Jul 2004 14:02:53 EDT, Mark and Kim Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dave Hinz wrote:
>
>>OK, I'll freely admit that I misread this. BUT - a lathe head has
>>two sides, does it not? If the centerline of the spindle is more than
>>2' off the floor, then you can turn something as big as you want.
> So now I'm thinking either a 2' - 4" plywood disc template to run the
> router around using a collar or a template / jig that pins at the center
> that enables me to swing the router on the 1' - 2" radius. And sorry,
> no lathe in my gar.... er, shop so that's out.
Actually, I just did something similar to this with a router. Need a 4'
hole in a floor (fire station, opening for a pole). I took a piece of
plywood, nailed through that into the center point of the future hole,
and used that as a compass-type tool to swing the router around while
holding a constant distance from the center point (e.g. a circle). You
could do that, start with the outside one, then change the distance to
do the inside one. No muss, no fuss, no template even. Circles,
those are easy. Does that work for you?
Dave Hinz
Router and center point for me. Common enough use for a router to be in
almost all the books. I've done the bandsaw for outsides, jig works fine.
Trouble is, you're still going to have to spokeshave or belt sand the edges
anyway, with the problem of flat spots. Router leaves a nice edge, and
doesn't care if it's making a hollow octagon round or a huge slab into a
donut.
"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >>>On 27 Jul 2004 12:30:13 EDT, Mark and Kim Smith
<[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The
outer
> >>>>circumference, which will be the 4' diameter,
> So now I'm thinking either a 2' - 4" plywood disc template to run the
> router around using a collar or a template / jig that pins at the center
> that enables me to swing the router on the 1' - 2" radius. And sorry,
> no lathe in my gar.... er, shop so that's out.
>
Mark, Be careful when routing the inside of the ring. Tape blocks or dowels
in as you go or double stick tape the ring to a scrap to hold it secure.
Dave
"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Waterwheel. So having the inside smooth is fine as the bottom of the
> buckets will attach there. Outside rough is fine and preferred. Router
> and center point it is! Thanks!
>
> George wrote:
>
> >Router and center point for me. Common enough use for a router to be in
> >almost all the books. I've done the bandsaw for outsides, jig works
fine.
> >Trouble is, you're still going to have to spokeshave or belt sand the
edges
> >anyway, with the problem of flat spots. Router leaves a nice edge, and
> >doesn't care if it's making a hollow octagon round or a huge slab into a
> >donut.
> >
> >"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >
> >
> >>>>>On 27 Jul 2004 12:30:13 EDT, Mark and Kim Smith
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >outer
> >
> >
> >>>>>>circumference, which will be the 4' diameter,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >
> >
> >
> >>So now I'm thinking either a 2' - 4" plywood disc template to run the
> >>router around using a collar or a template / jig that pins at the center
> >>that enables me to swing the router on the 1' - 2" radius. And sorry,
> >>no lathe in my gar.... er, shop so that's out.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
Mark and Kim, That looks like a fun project!
I just hope your not the ones responsible for breeding the West Nile
carrying mosquitoes! :)
Dave
"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks Dave! I'll actually have the spokes in place. I'll route just
> shy of the spokes and finish over them with a utility knife. The router
> will do more of a trim job than anything. No moving or binding of major
> pieces will be involved. Here is the building the waterwheel will be
> installed on. Bottom photo, left side of "mill."
> http://www.bunchobikes.com/pond6.htm Neighbor got a new fence, I got
> the redwood to reclaim for the mill, water wheel, bait shack, etc, etc!
> Grist mill is 6'x6', 6' tall and , as stated, the water wheel is 4'
> diameter.
>
> TeamCasa wrote:
>
> >Mark, Be careful when routing the inside of the ring. Tape blocks or
dowels
> >in as you go or double stick tape the ring to a scrap to hold it secure.
> >Dave
> >
> >
> >"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >
> >
> >>Waterwheel. So having the inside smooth is fine as the bottom of the
> >>buckets will attach there. Outside rough is fine and preferred. Router
> >>and center point it is! Thanks!
> >>
> >>George wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Router and center point for me. Common enough use for a router to be
in
> >>>almost all the books. I've done the bandsaw for outsides, jig works
> >>>
> >>>
> >fine.
> >
> >
> >>>Trouble is, you're still going to have to spokeshave or belt sand the
> >>>
> >>>
> >edges
> >
> >
> >>>anyway, with the problem of flat spots. Router leaves a nice edge, and
> >>>doesn't care if it's making a hollow octagon round or a huge slab into
a
> >>>donut.
> >>>
> >>>"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>news:[email protected]...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>On 27 Jul 2004 12:30:13 EDT, Mark and Kim Smith
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>><[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>outer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>circumference, which will be the 4' diameter,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>So now I'm thinking either a 2' - 4" plywood disc template to run the
> >>>>router around using a collar or a template / jig that pins at the
center
> >>>>that enables me to swing the router on the 1' - 2" radius. And sorry,
> >>>>no lathe in my gar.... er, shop so that's out.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
Gambusia aside, you have a lot of nature study to do if you think that's a
valid statement.
"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> That's a myth about ponds! The water may attract mosquitos, but the
> fish eat the larvae faster than the bugs can lay eggs. Especially the
> specialized Mosquito Fish. Free food for the fishies! So lay all you
> want, West Nile! But you can't win here!!
>
> TeamCasa wrote:
>
> >Mark and Kim, That looks like a fun project!
> >
> >I just hope your not the ones responsible for breeding the West Nile
> >carrying mosquitoes! :)
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:19:38 -0700, "TeamCasa" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Mark, Be careful when routing the inside of the ring. Tape blocks or dowels
>in as you go or double stick tape the ring to a scrap to hold it secure.
>Dave
make the first pass or three end up cutting about 3/4 of the way
through. then cut down the middle of the route with a jigsaw and
finish the cut with a flush trom bit in the router.
>
>
>"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Waterwheel. So having the inside smooth is fine as the bottom of the
>> buckets will attach there. Outside rough is fine and preferred. Router
>> and center point it is! Thanks!
>>
>> George wrote:
>>
>> >Router and center point for me. Common enough use for a router to be in
>> >almost all the books. I've done the bandsaw for outsides, jig works
>fine.
>> >Trouble is, you're still going to have to spokeshave or belt sand the
>edges
>> >anyway, with the problem of flat spots. Router leaves a nice edge, and
>> >doesn't care if it's making a hollow octagon round or a huge slab into a
>> >donut.
>> >
>> >"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> >
>> >>>>>On 27 Jul 2004 12:30:13 EDT, Mark and Kim Smith
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >outer
>> >
>> >
>> >>>>>>circumference, which will be the 4' diameter,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>So now I'm thinking either a 2' - 4" plywood disc template to run the
>> >>router around using a collar or a template / jig that pins at the center
>> >>that enables me to swing the router on the 1' - 2" radius. And sorry,
>> >>no lathe in my gar.... er, shop so that's out.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
A "routah" with a circle cutting jig is what you want/need.
Home made from 1/4" plywood or store bought made out
of plastic.
A straight cutting bit and a base that can be
cut into(like mdf) and you will be in business.
Mark and Kim Smith wrote:
> As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The outer
> circumference, which will be the 4' diameter, will be cut on my band saw
> by setting up a jig that has a pivot 2' from the blade. I'm looking for
> suggestions for the best way to cut the inner diameter which will be at
> 2' - 4" giving the "ring" a 10" width. The material is 3/4" thick. So
> far I'm thinking my jig saw or my router with a fence set at 10" and
> multiple passes. Any other suggestions? As always, thanks in advance!!
>
On 27 Jul 2004 12:30:13 EDT, Mark and Kim Smith
<[email protected]> wrote:
> As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The outer
>circumference, which will be the 4' diameter, will be cut on my band saw
>by setting up a jig that has a pivot 2' from the blade. I'm looking for
>suggestions for the best way to cut the inner diameter which will be at
>2' - 4" giving the "ring" a 10" width. The material is 3/4" thick. So
>far I'm thinking my jig saw or my router with a fence set at 10" and
>multiple passes. Any other suggestions? As always, thanks in advance!!
What material? What purpose? Plywood? Cut with a jigsaw, and then
file. You won't see the flaws driving past at 40. Good wood for fine
furniture? Cut close with a jigsaw, then finish with a router, guided
from the outside edge.
Bill.
Just use a router with a 1/2 inch straight bit set it up on a 6 inch
wide board with the bit centered at 3 Inch from the edge and side of the
board. Then measure back 24 inch from the inside of the bit and 14inch from
the out side of the bit drill two holes on these marks then use the same
drill bit and drill a hole in the center of a 48 by 48 sheet of ply or MDF
cut your outer circle first and then your inter circle do not cut all the
way through the material leave about 1/8 th of an inch then cut out with a
jig saw and trim down with a flush trim bit.
Always use the radius of a circle to cut one with this method.A good
rule of thumb is always convert any measurement under 12 feet to inches only
and you will avoid a lot of mistakes.
Chris
"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The outer
> circumference, which will be the 4' diameter, will be cut on my band saw
> by setting up a jig that has a pivot 2' from the blade. I'm looking for
> suggestions for the best way to cut the inner diameter which will be at
> 2' - 4" giving the "ring" a 10" width. The material is 3/4" thick. So
> far I'm thinking my jig saw or my router with a fence set at 10" and
> multiple passes. Any other suggestions? As always, thanks in advance!!
>
"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The outer
> circumference, which will be the 4' diameter, will be cut on my band saw
> by setting up a jig that has a pivot 2' from the blade. I'm looking for
> suggestions for the best way to cut the inner diameter which will be at
> 2' - 4" giving the "ring" a 10" width. The material is 3/4" thick. So
> far I'm thinking my jig saw or my router with a fence set at 10" and
> multiple passes. Any other suggestions? As always, thanks in advance!!
round picture frames are typically made in pieces, and joined together with
splines or some such.
Dave Hinz wrote:
>On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:05:09 +0200, Juergen Hannappel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Dave Hinz <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>>On 27 Jul 2004 12:30:13 EDT, Mark and Kim Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The outer
>>>>circumference, which will be the 4' diameter,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Two thoughts:
>>>1. Lathe and faceplate.
>>>
>>>
>>With 4' this lathe will be a rather large one...
>>
>>
>
>OK, I'll freely admit that I misread this. BUT - a lathe head has
>two sides, does it not? If the centerline of the spindle is more than
>2' off the floor, then you can turn something as big as you want. Need
>a spindle that is drilled through and some creativity, but it could be done.
>
>
So now I'm thinking either a 2' - 4" plywood disc template to run the
router around using a collar or a template / jig that pins at the center
that enables me to swing the router on the 1' - 2" radius. And sorry,
no lathe in my gar.... er, shop so that's out.
Charles Spitzer wrote:
>"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>
>> As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The outer
>>circumference, which will be the 4' diameter, will be cut on my band saw
>>by setting up a jig that has a pivot 2' from the blade. I'm looking for
>>suggestions for the best way to cut the inner diameter which will be at
>>2' - 4" giving the "ring" a 10" width. The material is 3/4" thick. So
>>far I'm thinking my jig saw or my router with a fence set at 10" and
>>multiple passes. Any other suggestions? As always, thanks in advance!!
>>
>>
>
>round picture frames are typically made in pieces, and joined together with
>splines or some such.
>
>
>
Yup! 20" pieces, eight of them, 22.5 degree cut on each end, to be
joined I have two of these rings to make, so 16 pieces, total. Think
I'll have some degree accuracy if I cut the inner curve before assembly
then bandsaw the outer curve after?
"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Charles Spitzer wrote:
>
> >"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >
> >
> >> As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The outer
> >>circumference, which will be the 4' diameter, will be cut on my band saw
> >>by setting up a jig that has a pivot 2' from the blade. I'm looking for
> >>suggestions for the best way to cut the inner diameter which will be at
> >>2' - 4" giving the "ring" a 10" width. The material is 3/4" thick. So
> >>far I'm thinking my jig saw or my router with a fence set at 10" and
> >>multiple passes. Any other suggestions? As always, thanks in advance!!
> >>
> >>
> >
> >round picture frames are typically made in pieces, and joined together
with
> >splines or some such.
> >
> >
> >
> Yup! 20" pieces, eight of them, 22.5 degree cut on each end, to be
> joined I have two of these rings to make, so 16 pieces, total. Think
> I'll have some degree accuracy if I cut the inner curve before assembly
> then bandsaw the outer curve after?
if it were me, i'd glue them into 4 semicircles, dry join 2 together, draw
out the 2 circles, split it back into halves, and then cut the inside and
outsides on the bandsaw. repeat.
Dave Hinz wrote:
>On 27 Jul 2004 14:02:53 EDT, Mark and Kim Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Dave Hinz wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>OK, I'll freely admit that I misread this. BUT - a lathe head has
>>>two sides, does it not? If the centerline of the spindle is more than
>>>2' off the floor, then you can turn something as big as you want.
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>So now I'm thinking either a 2' - 4" plywood disc template to run the
>>router around using a collar or a template / jig that pins at the center
>>that enables me to swing the router on the 1' - 2" radius. And sorry,
>>no lathe in my gar.... er, shop so that's out.
>>
>>
>
>Actually, I just did something similar to this with a router. Need a 4'
>hole in a floor (fire station, opening for a pole). I took a piece of
>plywood, nailed through that into the center point of the future hole,
>and used that as a compass-type tool to swing the router around while
>holding a constant distance from the center point (e.g. a circle). You
>could do that, start with the outside one, then change the distance to
>do the inside one. No muss, no fuss, no template even. Circles,
>those are easy. Does that work for you?
>
>Dave Hinz
>
>
I think we have a winner! Although I think I'll still bandsaw the
outside one as it will actually be easier than the router. I'm
reclaiming some redwood and I'm trying to minimize the amount of
machined surfaces so I can keep that nice weathered / silvery finish.
Plus, the bandsaw will leave a slightly rough surface that will,
hopefully, age quickly. Thanks for the help!! Mark
Waterwheel. So having the inside smooth is fine as the bottom of the
buckets will attach there. Outside rough is fine and preferred. Router
and center point it is! Thanks!
George wrote:
>Router and center point for me. Common enough use for a router to be in
>almost all the books. I've done the bandsaw for outsides, jig works fine.
>Trouble is, you're still going to have to spokeshave or belt sand the edges
>anyway, with the problem of flat spots. Router leaves a nice edge, and
>doesn't care if it's making a hollow octagon round or a huge slab into a
>donut.
>
>"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>
>>>>>On 27 Jul 2004 12:30:13 EDT, Mark and Kim Smith
>>>>>
>>>>>
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>outer
>
>
>>>>>>circumference, which will be the 4' diameter,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>
>
>
>>So now I'm thinking either a 2' - 4" plywood disc template to run the
>>router around using a collar or a template / jig that pins at the center
>>that enables me to swing the router on the 1' - 2" radius. And sorry,
>>no lathe in my gar.... er, shop so that's out.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
Thanks Dave! I'll actually have the spokes in place. I'll route just
shy of the spokes and finish over them with a utility knife. The router
will do more of a trim job than anything. No moving or binding of major
pieces will be involved. Here is the building the waterwheel will be
installed on. Bottom photo, left side of "mill."
http://www.bunchobikes.com/pond6.htm Neighbor got a new fence, I got
the redwood to reclaim for the mill, water wheel, bait shack, etc, etc!
Grist mill is 6'x6', 6' tall and , as stated, the water wheel is 4'
diameter.
TeamCasa wrote:
>Mark, Be careful when routing the inside of the ring. Tape blocks or dowels
>in as you go or double stick tape the ring to a scrap to hold it secure.
>Dave
>
>
>"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>
>>Waterwheel. So having the inside smooth is fine as the bottom of the
>>buckets will attach there. Outside rough is fine and preferred. Router
>>and center point it is! Thanks!
>>
>>George wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Router and center point for me. Common enough use for a router to be in
>>>almost all the books. I've done the bandsaw for outsides, jig works
>>>
>>>
>fine.
>
>
>>>Trouble is, you're still going to have to spokeshave or belt sand the
>>>
>>>
>edges
>
>
>>>anyway, with the problem of flat spots. Router leaves a nice edge, and
>>>doesn't care if it's making a hollow octagon round or a huge slab into a
>>>donut.
>>>
>>>"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>On 27 Jul 2004 12:30:13 EDT, Mark and Kim Smith
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>outer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>circumference, which will be the 4' diameter,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>So now I'm thinking either a 2' - 4" plywood disc template to run the
>>>>router around using a collar or a template / jig that pins at the center
>>>>that enables me to swing the router on the 1' - 2" radius. And sorry,
>>>>no lathe in my gar.... er, shop so that's out.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
Bill Clarke wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:05:09 +0200, Juergen Hannappel
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Dave Hinz <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>
>>>On 27 Jul 2004 12:30:13 EDT, Mark and Kim Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The outer
>>>>circumference, which will be the 4' diameter, will be cut on my band saw
>>>>by setting up a jig that has a pivot 2' from the blade.
>>>
>>>Two thoughts:
>>>
>>>1. Lathe and faceplate.
>>
>>With 4' this lathe will be a rather large one...
>
>
> Listen, if your lathe doesn't have a 4 foot swing you're not a REAL
> woodworker.<g>
Yes, but it would be so much easier to put that 28" bit in the drill press:-)
Joe
That's a myth about ponds! The water may attract mosquitos, but the
fish eat the larvae faster than the bugs can lay eggs. Especially the
specialized Mosquito Fish. Free food for the fishies! So lay all you
want, West Nile! But you can't win here!!
TeamCasa wrote:
>Mark and Kim, That looks like a fun project!
>
>I just hope your not the ones responsible for breeding the West Nile
>carrying mosquitoes! :)
>
>Dave
>
>"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>
>>Thanks Dave! I'll actually have the spokes in place. I'll route just
>>shy of the spokes and finish over them with a utility knife. The router
>>will do more of a trim job than anything. No moving or binding of major
>>pieces will be involved. Here is the building the waterwheel will be
>>installed on. Bottom photo, left side of "mill."
>>http://www.bunchobikes.com/pond6.htm Neighbor got a new fence, I got
>>the redwood to reclaim for the mill, water wheel, bait shack, etc, etc!
>>Grist mill is 6'x6', 6' tall and , as stated, the water wheel is 4'
>>diameter.
>>
>>TeamCasa wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Mark, Be careful when routing the inside of the ring. Tape blocks or
>>>
>>>
>dowels
>
>
>>>in as you go or double stick tape the ring to a scrap to hold it secure.
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Waterwheel. So having the inside smooth is fine as the bottom of the
>>>>buckets will attach there. Outside rough is fine and preferred. Router
>>>>and center point it is! Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>George wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Router and center point for me. Common enough use for a router to be
>>>>>
>>>>>
>in
>
>
>>>>>almost all the books. I've done the bandsaw for outsides, jig works
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>fine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Trouble is, you're still going to have to spokeshave or belt sand the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>edges
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>anyway, with the problem of flat spots. Router leaves a nice edge, and
>>>>>doesn't care if it's making a hollow octagon round or a huge slab into
>>>>>
>>>>>
>a
>
>
>>>>>donut.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On 27 Jul 2004 12:30:13 EDT, Mark and Kim Smith
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>outer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>circumference, which will be the 4' diameter,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>So now I'm thinking either a 2' - 4" plywood disc template to run the
>>>>>>router around using a collar or a template / jig that pins at the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>center
>
>
>>>>>>that enables me to swing the router on the 1' - 2" radius. And sorry,
>>>>>>no lathe in my gar.... er, shop so that's out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
CW wrote:
> Need to turn something big?
> http://www.emachinetool.com/used/catalog/vertical.cfm?DestinationCategory=Vertical%20Boring%20Mill&ProductID=11075
> "Joe Gorman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>woodworker.<g>
>>
>>Yes, but it would be so much easier to put that 28" bit in the drill
>
> press:-)
>
>>Joe
Damn, I knew I should have made the new shed^H^Hop doors wider. Now it
won't fit:-(
Joe
I know a lot of people have replied already, and I haven't read all of
the replys so I apologize if this is a duplicate, but why can't you
use a circle jig with your router. It is really pretty simple.
Basically a compass for the router...Probably what you are doing for
your bandsaw, just substitute a router bit for the bandsaw blade and
turn the jig upside down.
Take something such as a 1x4 (in this case about 30" long), pick out
a router bushing, drill a hole near the end of the 1x4 to fit the OD
of the bushing. Now pick out a straight bit for the router, (a
carbide spiral bit works well) such as a 1/2" diameter. Use a nail
for the center point at the appropriate distance to give the desired
radius. (Make sure to watch which edge of the bit you measure from.
3 passes on your material and you should have a perfect circle.
--Rick
On 27 Jul 2004 12:30:13 EDT, Mark and Kim Smith
<[email protected]> wrote:
> As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The outer
>circumference, which will be the 4' diameter, will be cut on my band saw
>by setting up a jig that has a pivot 2' from the blade. I'm looking for
>suggestions for the best way to cut the inner diameter which will be at
>2' - 4" giving the "ring" a 10" width. The material is 3/4" thick. So
>far I'm thinking my jig saw or my router with a fence set at 10" and
>multiple passes. Any other suggestions? As always, thanks in advance!!
Need to turn something big?
http://www.emachinetool.com/used/catalog/vertical.cfm?DestinationCategory=Vertical%20Boring%20Mill&ProductID=11075
"Joe Gorman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Bill Clarke wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:05:09 +0200, Juergen Hannappel
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Dave Hinz <[email protected]> writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>>On 27 Jul 2004 12:30:13 EDT, Mark and Kim Smith
<[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The
outer
> >>>>circumference, which will be the 4' diameter, will be cut on my band
saw
> >>>>by setting up a jig that has a pivot 2' from the blade.
> >>>
> >>>Two thoughts:
> >>>
> >>>1. Lathe and faceplate.
> >>
> >>With 4' this lathe will be a rather large one...
> >
> >
> > Listen, if your lathe doesn't have a 4 foot swing you're not a REAL
> > woodworker.<g>
>
> Yes, but it would be so much easier to put that 28" bit in the drill
press:-)
> Joe
>
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:05:09 +0200, Juergen Hannappel
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Dave Hinz <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> On 27 Jul 2004 12:30:13 EDT, Mark and Kim Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The outer
>>> circumference, which will be the 4' diameter, will be cut on my band saw
>>> by setting up a jig that has a pivot 2' from the blade.
>>
>> Two thoughts:
>>
>> 1. Lathe and faceplate.
>
>With 4' this lathe will be a rather large one...
Listen, if your lathe doesn't have a 4 foot swing you're not a REAL
woodworker.<g>
Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 5:17pm (EDT+4) [email protected]
(Bill=A0Clarke) claims;
Listen, if your lathe doesn't have a 4 foot swing you're not a REAL
woodworker.<g>
Nah, that'd only mean your not a real woodTURNER.
You don't need a lathe. Easy. Drill a hole in the center of a
4'X4' piece of plywood. Tighten up a bolt thru it, the bolt in a hand
drill. Clamp the drill in a vise, turn it on. You take down the
outside with a wood rasp. Use a parting tool for the center. No prob. =
Let us know how it works out. If it works, I may try it too.
JOAT
Expensive tennis shoes won't cure a sore toe.
- Bazooka Joe
JERUSALEM RIDGE http://www.banjer.com/midi/jerridge.mid
Dave Hinz <[email protected]> writes:
> On 27 Jul 2004 12:30:13 EDT, Mark and Kim Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> As part of a project I'm making, I need to make a 4' ring. The outer
>> circumference, which will be the 4' diameter, will be cut on my band saw
>> by setting up a jig that has a pivot 2' from the blade.
>
> Two thoughts:
>
> 1. Lathe and faceplate.
With 4' this lathe will be a rather large one...
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About time someone suggested this. Yes, router compass (circle cutter to
most). Cut the inside and outside both.
"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Actually, I just did something similar to this with a router. Need a 4'
> hole in a floor (fire station, opening for a pole). I took a piece of
> plywood, nailed through that into the center point of the future hole,
> and used that as a compass-type tool to swing the router around while
> holding a constant distance from the center point (e.g. a circle). You
> could do that, start with the outside one, then change the distance to
> do the inside one. No muss, no fuss, no template even. Circles,
> those are easy. Does that work for you?
>
> Dave Hinz
>