A few years back I inherited some of my Dad's dad's planes, and they
have a place of honour in my shop, and I try to use them as much as I
can. They included a Stanley #8 that had a crack in it that I had
repaired.
This summer we travelled from Saskatoon to Thunder Bay, Ontario, and on
the return trip stopped to visit one of Mom's sisters outside Winnipeg.
She loaded a couple of buckets full of my other grampa's tools into the
back of our van, and I've finally had a chance to do an inventory.
Unfortunately, they'd been stored in an unheated garage for who knows
how long, so rust is something of an issue, but not on all of the
tools.
Besides a bunch of files with varying degrees of rust from light to
severe, and a number of different pliers and snips, I found a smaller
Yankee driver, and a smaller, similar driver marked "Hoppe, Germany"
with several pristine auger bits in the handle. As well, marked
Starret, what appears to be an adjustable handle for small files.
And then, the planes:
Two Stanley 110's in reasonable shape.
A body for a number 130, jappaning bubbled, rusty
The rest are in good to very good condition:
Two #4s, a #5, #80, #90, #151 and a #40 1/2 in really great shape.
Knowing Grampa's history, most of these tools are probably 50 years or
older.
Pretty soon, I'll them all cleaned up and in use. Then I'll have two
grandfathers smiling down on my shop.
In article <[email protected]>, Morris Dovey <[email protected]>
wrote:
> You might consider taking pictures and combining a bit of text to save
> that history for the next user(s). It'd be a shame for that not to be
> passed on with the tools...
That's an excellent idea. Thanks, Morris.
In article <[email protected]>, PHT
<[email protected]> wrote:
> That is a great way to keep a family history going.
> I'm sure you are and will put them to good use.
> Hope when the time comes you have someone you can pass the tools on to
> and keep the family history going.
Daughter and son both have some interest in wooddorking, I'm trying to
infuse them with enthusiasm, but for a parent to push to hard can be a
mistake.
In article <[email protected]>, -MIKE-
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Dave Balderstone wrote:
> > Daughter and son both have some interest in wooddorking,
>
> I don't *even* want to know what that is. :-p
You're not from 'round here, are you?
In article <[email protected]>, -MIKE-
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Dave Balderstone wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>, -MIKE-
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Dave Balderstone wrote:
> >>> Daughter and son both have some interest in wooddorking,
> >> I don't *even* want to know what that is. :-p
> >
> > You're not from 'round here, are you?
>
>
> I'm not from Kentucky either.
> I think they do some dorking up there. :-)
Search the archives for the term.
In article <[email protected]>, Lew Hodgett
<[email protected]> wrote:
> "Dave Balderstone" wrote:
>
> > Knowing Grampa's history, most of these tools are probably 50 years
> > or
> > older.
>
> My guess is much older than 50 years which would only put them about
> 1960 vintage.
>
> Due to WWII, my guess many of these tools may predate 1940.
That's quite possible, Lew. Mom was born in '39, and he was woodworking
before that.
Unfortunately, in his later years he sold off much of his shop to
support his addiction. I'm very happy to have what I do.
I remember some of his work from when I was you (10 or so, which is 40
years ago) and even filtered through questionable memories he was a
superb woodworker. The bottle and a RAS took most of his left hand
about that time, alas, and he really never came back.
I have fond memories, he was always good to me.
In article <[email protected]>, -MIKE-
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Dave Balderstone wrote:
> >>>>> Daughter and son both have some interest in wooddorking,
> >>>> I don't *even* want to know what that is. :-p
> >>> You're not from 'round here, are you?
> >>
> >> I'm not from Kentucky either.
> >> I think they do some dorking up there. :-)
> >
> > Search the archives for the term.
>
> Uh, that's ok. :-)
So your only intent was to act like a prick? Welcome to my killfile.
In article <[email protected]>, David
Nebenzahl <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 10/15/2009 7:04 PM Dave Balderstone spake thus:
>
> > A few years back I inherited some of my Dad's dad's planes, and they
> > have a place of honour in my shop, and I try to use them as much as I
> > can. They included a Stanley #8 that had a crack in it that I had
> > repaired.
> >
> > This summer we travelled from Saskatoon to Thunder Bay, Ontario, and on
> > the return trip stopped to visit one of Mom's sisters outside Winnipeg.
> > She loaded a couple of buckets full of my other grampa's tools into the
> > back of our van, and I've finally had a chance to do an inventory.
> > Unfortunately, they'd been stored in an unheated garage for who knows
> > how long, so rust is something of an issue, but not on all of the
> > tools.
>
> I'll bet that most, if not all, of that rust can be easily removed.
>
> My method of choice is electrolytic rust removal. Look it up; lots of
> sites showing how to do it.
>
> Basically, you immerse the thing to be de-rusted in a solution of sodium
> carbonate (aka washing soda, sold as a Ph modifier for swimming pools
> everywhere), put a piece of iron or steel in the bath, make the tool the
> negative electrode and the other piece of metal the positive one, run
> low voltage DC (12 volts typically) through the bath and presto! off
> comes the rust.
I've done that in the past, but most of these don't need it, as it
turns out. So far, so good! I'll post some pics when I'm done.
On Oct 15, 10:04=A0pm, Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
> A few years back I inherited some of my Dad's dad's planes, and they
> have a place of honour in my shop, and I try to use them as much as I
> can. They included a Stanley #8 that had a crack in it that I had
> repaired.
>
> This summer we travelled from Saskatoon to Thunder Bay, Ontario, and on
> the return trip stopped to visit one of Mom's sisters outside Winnipeg.
> She loaded a couple of buckets full of my other grampa's tools into the
> back of our van, and I've finally had a chance to do an inventory.
> Unfortunately, they'd been stored in an unheated garage for who knows
> how long, so rust is something of an issue, but not on all of the
> tools.
>
> Besides a bunch of files with varying degrees of rust from light to
> severe, and a number of different pliers and snips, I found a smaller
> Yankee driver, and a smaller, similar driver marked "Hoppe, Germany"
> with several pristine auger bits in the handle. As well, marked
> Starret, what appears to be an adjustable handle for small files.
>
> And then, the planes:
>
> Two Stanley 110's in reasonable shape.
>
> A body for a number 130, jappaning bubbled, rusty
>
> The rest are in good to very good condition:
>
> Two #4s, a #5, #80, #90, #151 and a #40 1/2 in really great shape.
The 80 and 90 aren't the steel-cased rabbet planes by any chance, are
they?
R
On 10/15/2009 7:04 PM Dave Balderstone spake thus:
> A few years back I inherited some of my Dad's dad's planes, and they
> have a place of honour in my shop, and I try to use them as much as I
> can. They included a Stanley #8 that had a crack in it that I had
> repaired.
>
> This summer we travelled from Saskatoon to Thunder Bay, Ontario, and on
> the return trip stopped to visit one of Mom's sisters outside Winnipeg.
> She loaded a couple of buckets full of my other grampa's tools into the
> back of our van, and I've finally had a chance to do an inventory.
> Unfortunately, they'd been stored in an unheated garage for who knows
> how long, so rust is something of an issue, but not on all of the
> tools.
I'll bet that most, if not all, of that rust can be easily removed.
My method of choice is electrolytic rust removal. Look it up; lots of
sites showing how to do it.
Basically, you immerse the thing to be de-rusted in a solution of sodium
carbonate (aka washing soda, sold as a Ph modifier for swimming pools
everywhere), put a piece of iron or steel in the bath, make the tool the
negative electrode and the other piece of metal the positive one, run
low voltage DC (12 volts typically) through the bath and presto! off
comes the rust.
--
Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism
On Oct 15, 7:04=A0pm, Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
> A few years back I inherited some of my Dad's dad's planes, and they
> have a place of honour in my shop, and I try to use them as much as I
> can. They included a Stanley #8 that had a crack in it that I had
> repaired.
>
> This summer we travelled from Saskatoon to Thunder Bay, Ontario, and on
> the return trip stopped to visit one of Mom's sisters outside Winnipeg.
> She loaded a couple of buckets full of my other grampa's tools into the
> back of our van, and I've finally had a chance to do an inventory.
> Unfortunately, they'd been stored in an unheated garage for who knows
> how long, so rust is something of an issue, but not on all of the
> tools.
>
> Besides a bunch of files with varying degrees of rust from light to
> severe, and a number of different pliers and snips, I found a smaller
> Yankee driver, and a smaller, similar driver marked "Hoppe, Germany"
> with several pristine auger bits in the handle. As well, marked
> Starret, what appears to be an adjustable handle for small files.
>
> And then, the planes:
>
> Two Stanley 110's in reasonable shape.
>
> A body for a number 130, jappaning bubbled, rusty
>
> The rest are in good to very good condition:
>
> Two #4s, a #5, #80, #90, #151 and a #40 1/2 in really great shape.
>
> Knowing Grampa's history, most of these tools are probably 50 years or
> older.
>
> Pretty soon, I'll them all cleaned up and in use. Then I'll have two
> grandfathers smiling down on my shop.
You might not see this as you are boycotting Google groups, but I want
to congratulate you and express my jealousy. I am trying to get to my
grandfather Luigi's tools in Montreal (my brother has been promising
to ship them to me for the last 20 years or so), but my grandfather
Umberto's tools in Italy are all gone. Enjoy your patrimony, and may
you smile down on your grandchildren's shops.
Luigi
On Oct 16, 12:45=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dave Balderstone wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>, -MIKE-
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> Dave Balderstone wrote:
> >>>>>>> Daughter and son both have some interest in wooddorking,
> >>>>>> I don't *even* want to know what that is. =A0 =A0 :-p
> >>>>> You're not from 'round here, are you?
> >>>> I'm not from Kentucky either.
> >>>> I think they do some dorking up there. =A0 :-)
> >>> Search the archives for the term.
> >> Uh, that's ok. =A0 =A0 :-)
>
> > So your only intent was to act like a prick? Welcome to my killfile.
>
> I'm sorry, *I'm* acting like a prick?
>
> Let's look back....
> I make a little joke at what I took to be a typo, and added an emoticon
> to indicate I was teasing.
>
> *You* are the one who started the smartass replies with your little,
> "not from 'round here" comment, when all you had to do was say,
> "It's an inside joke," and maybe even explain it.
>
> So nice try, though, by turning it around on me, but it didn't work.
>
> But, you won't read this though, because I'm in your killfile.
> Ooooooooo!
Stop being a dick. Your little joke was about someone's kids, and
would probably have left you with a fat lip if you said that to the
person's face. It was a dick move, you should have known it was a
dick move, you're defending a dick move, and you're being a dick for
not admitting your ignorance.
People like you give dick's a bad name.
R
On Oct 16, 2:31=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> -MIKE- wrote:
> > RicodJour wrote:
>
> > Not only are you guys hypocrites, you're thin-skinned ones at that.
>
> Apology for the hypocrite remark.
> I confused you with others who dole out the ad hominems in political
> threads and others.
>
> Still thin-skinned however. =A0:-)
Not really. It was getting kind of quiet around here and I was
getting bored. :)
R
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:30:55 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> scrawled the following:
>In article <[email protected]>, -MIKE-
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dave Balderstone wrote:
>> > Daughter and son both have some interest in wooddorking,
>>
>> I don't *even* want to know what that is. :-p
>
>You're not from 'round here, are you?
Them younguns, I swear...
---
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight
very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands.
It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.
--John Wayne (1907 - 1979)
Dave Balderstone wrote:
> A few years back I inherited some of my Dad's dad's planes, and they
> have a place of honour in my shop, and I try to use them as much as I
> can. They included a Stanley #8 that had a crack in it that I had
> repaired.
...
> Knowing Grampa's history, most of these tools are probably 50 years or
> older.
...
> Pretty soon, I'll them all cleaned up and in use. Then I'll have two
> grandfathers smiling down on my shop.
Yes you will.
You might consider taking pictures and combining a bit of text to save
that history for the next user(s). It'd be a shame for that not to be
passed on with the tools...
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Dave Balderstone wrote:
> Daughter and son both have some interest in wooddorking,
I don't *even* want to know what that is. :-p
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, -MIKE-
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dave Balderstone wrote:
>>> Daughter and son both have some interest in wooddorking,
>> I don't *even* want to know what that is. :-p
>
> You're not from 'round here, are you?
I'm not from Kentucky either.
I think they do some dorking up there. :-)
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
Dave Balderstone wrote:
>>>>> Daughter and son both have some interest in wooddorking,
>>>> I don't *even* want to know what that is. :-p
>>> You're not from 'round here, are you?
>>
>> I'm not from Kentucky either.
>> I think they do some dorking up there. :-)
>
> Search the archives for the term.
Uh, that's ok. :-)
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, -MIKE-
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dave Balderstone wrote:
>>>>>>> Daughter and son both have some interest in wooddorking,
>>>>>> I don't *even* want to know what that is. :-p
>>>>> You're not from 'round here, are you?
>>>> I'm not from Kentucky either.
>>>> I think they do some dorking up there. :-)
>>> Search the archives for the term.
>> Uh, that's ok. :-)
>
> So your only intent was to act like a prick? Welcome to my killfile.
I'm sorry, *I'm* acting like a prick?
Let's look back....
I make a little joke at what I took to be a typo, and added an emoticon
to indicate I was teasing.
*You* are the one who started the smartass replies with your little,
"not from 'round here" comment, when all you had to do was say,
"It's an inside joke," and maybe even explain it.
So nice try, though, by turning it around on me, but it didn't work.
But, you won't read this though, because I'm in your killfile.
Ooooooooo!
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
RicodJour wrote:
> On Oct 16, 12:45 pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Dave Balderstone wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>, -MIKE-
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Dave Balderstone wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Daughter and son both have some interest in wooddorking,
>>>>>>>> I don't *even* want to know what that is. :-p
>>>>>>> You're not from 'round here, are you?
>>>>>> I'm not from Kentucky either.
>>>>>> I think they do some dorking up there. :-)
>>>>> Search the archives for the term.
>>>> Uh, that's ok. :-)
>>> So your only intent was to act like a prick? Welcome to my killfile.
>> I'm sorry, *I'm* acting like a prick?
>>
>> Let's look back....
>> I make a little joke at what I took to be a typo, and added an emoticon
>> to indicate I was teasing.
>>
>> *You* are the one who started the smartass replies with your little,
>> "not from 'round here" comment, when all you had to do was say,
>> "It's an inside joke," and maybe even explain it.
>>
>> So nice try, though, by turning it around on me, but it didn't work.
>>
>> But, you won't read this though, because I'm in your killfile.
>> Ooooooooo!
>
> Stop being a dick. Your little joke was about someone's kids, and
> would probably have left you with a fat lip if you said that to the
> person's face. It was a dick move, you should have known it was a
> dick move, you're defending a dick move, and you're being a dick for
> not admitting your ignorance.
>
> People like you give dick's a bad name.
>
> R
Not only are you guys hypocrites, you're thin-skinned ones at that.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
-MIKE- wrote:
> RicodJour wrote:
>>
>> R
>
> Not only are you guys hypocrites, you're thin-skinned ones at that.
>
Apology for the hypocrite remark.
I confused you with others who dole out the ad hominems in political
threads and others.
Still thin-skinned however. :-)
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
-MIKE- wrote:
> -MIKE- wrote:
>> RicodJour wrote:
>>>
>>> R
>>
>> Not only are you guys hypocrites, you're thin-skinned ones at that.
>>
>
>
> Apology for the hypocrite remark.
> I confused you with others who dole out the ad hominems in political
> threads and others.
>
> Still thin-skinned however. :-)
>
>
>
Thank goodness someone still can see the humor in any situation.
Sometime the funniest things that happen are when you look back a very
serious event after several days have passed and the adrenaline is gone.
Humor is what keeps us all from become Social Democrats
RicodJour wrote:
> On Oct 16, 2:31 pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
>> -MIKE- wrote:
>>> RicodJour wrote:
>>> Not only are you guys hypocrites, you're thin-skinned ones at that.
>> Apology for the hypocrite remark.
>> I confused you with others who dole out the ad hominems in political
>> threads and others.
>>
>> Still thin-skinned however. :-)
>
> Not really. It was getting kind of quiet around here and I was
> getting bored. :)
>
> R
Well.... up yours, then! (:-o
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:04:40 -0600, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> A few years back I inherited some of my Dad's dad's planes, and they
> have a place of honour in my shop, and I try to use them as much as I
> can. They included a Stanley #8 that had a crack in it that I had
> repaired.
>
> This summer we travelled from Saskatoon to Thunder Bay, Ontario, and on
> the return trip stopped to visit one of Mom's sisters outside Winnipeg.
> She loaded a couple of buckets full of my other grampa's tools into the
> back of our van, and I've finally had a chance to do an inventory.
> Unfortunately, they'd been stored in an unheated garage for who knows
> how long, so rust is something of an issue, but not on all of the tools.
>
> Besides a bunch of files with varying degrees of rust from light to
> severe, and a number of different pliers and snips, I found a smaller
> Yankee driver, and a smaller, similar driver marked "Hoppe, Germany"
> with several pristine auger bits in the handle. As well, marked Starret,
> what appears to be an adjustable handle for small files.
>
> And then, the planes:
>
> Two Stanley 110's in reasonable shape.
>
> A body for a number 130, jappaning bubbled, rusty
>
> The rest are in good to very good condition:
>
> Two #4s, a #5, #80, #90, #151 and a #40 1/2 in really great shape.
>
> Knowing Grampa's history, most of these tools are probably 50 years or
> older.
>
> Pretty soon, I'll them all cleaned up and in use. Then I'll have two
> grandfathers smiling down on my shop.
That is a great way to keep a family history going.
I'm sure you are and will put them to good use.
Hope when the time comes you have someone you can pass the tools on to
and keep the family history going.
Paul T.
--
The only dumb question, is the one not asked
Dave Balderstone wrote:
> A few years back I inherited some of my Dad's dad's planes, and they
> have a place of honour in my shop, and I try to use them as much as I
> can. They included a Stanley #8 that had a crack in it that I had
> repaired.
>
> This summer we travelled from Saskatoon to Thunder Bay, Ontario, and on
> the return trip stopped to visit one of Mom's sisters outside Winnipeg.
> She loaded a couple of buckets full of my other grampa's tools into the
> back of our van, and I've finally had a chance to do an inventory.
> Unfortunately, they'd been stored in an unheated garage for who knows
> how long, so rust is something of an issue, but not on all of the
> tools.
>
... snip
> Pretty soon, I'll them all cleaned up and in use. Then I'll have two
> grandfathers smiling down on my shop.
Very nice. I can certainly relate. When Dad's father passed away, I
asked for his toolbox. Not woodworking tools, but I spent lots of summer
afternoons in or under the combine, swather, or other equipment helping him
make repairs. Nothing fancy in that toolbox, but Grandpa could fix
anything with those tools. It brings back good memories when I use one of
them.
--
There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage
Rob Leatham