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"Vic Baron"

15/10/2009 4:37 PM

Sometimes I forget how dumb I can be.

Bought a couple of extra long up spiral router bits for my mortising jig.
Decided to try some template routing so installed the bushing and collar and
bit in my M12V - a brand new one I had in a drawer so I hadn't reworked the
plunge springs etc.

IAC, I had the router on the bench and was checking to be sure it wasn't
rubbing on the guide collar so I pressed down on the router plate and
compressed the springs while I grabbed the bit (by the business end) and
started to rotate the bit between left thumb and forefinger. It was rubbing
the collar so I released a wee bit of the pressure I was holding on the
plate with my right hand and wham! - the strong spring load slammed the
plate to the top of its travel, pushing my left hand along with it. This is
the hand that was clutching bravely to the bit.

Those suckers are SHARP!

And for those who haven't tried it - getting bloodstains out of white oak is
a PITA.

Walked around the shop for the rest of the day saying "Dumb!"

Moral of the story - routers can bite you even when they're not plugged in.

Vic

--
There are 10 kinds of people - those who understand binary and those who
don't


This topic has 12 replies

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Puckdropper

in reply to "Vic Baron" on 15/10/2009 4:37 PM

16/10/2009 7:26 AM

"Vic Baron" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Bought a couple of extra long up spiral router bits for my mortising
> jig. Decided to try some template routing so installed the bushing and
> collar and bit in my M12V - a brand new one I had in a drawer so I
> hadn't reworked the plunge springs etc.
>
> IAC, I had the router on the bench and was checking to be sure it
> wasn't rubbing on the guide collar so I pressed down on the router
> plate and compressed the springs while I grabbed the bit (by the
> business end) and started to rotate the bit between left thumb and
> forefinger. It was rubbing the collar so I released a wee bit of the
> pressure I was holding on the plate with my right hand and wham! - the
> strong spring load slammed the plate to the top of its travel, pushing
> my left hand along with it. This is the hand that was clutching
> bravely to the bit.
>
> Those suckers are SHARP!
>
> And for those who haven't tried it - getting bloodstains out of white
> oak is a PITA.
>
> Walked around the shop for the rest of the day saying "Dumb!"
>
> Moral of the story - routers can bite you even when they're not
> plugged in.
>
> Vic
>

I never touch the business end of a router bit without leather gloves.
I've been bitten a few times, and prefer to avoid it. A good pair of
leather gloves runs about $10. Cheap enough to buy two (pairs!)

Puckdropper
--
"The potential difference between the top and bottom of a tree is the
reason why all trees have to be grounded..." -- Bored Borg on
rec.woodworking

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

TT

in reply to "Vic Baron" on 15/10/2009 4:37 PM

15/10/2009 9:11 PM

Vic ...

This is a good cautionary tale for me as I am still making friends with
my first plunge router -- a Milwaukee -- and getting ready to make about
a dozen mortises for the latest project.

Larry


Vic Baron wrote:
> Bought a couple of extra long up spiral router bits for my mortising
> jig. Decided to try some template routing so installed the bushing and
> collar and bit in my M12V - a brand new one I had in a drawer so I
> hadn't reworked the plunge springs etc.
>
> IAC, I had the router on the bench and was checking to be sure it wasn't
> rubbing on the guide collar so I pressed down on the router plate and
> compressed the springs while I grabbed the bit (by the business end) and
> started to rotate the bit between left thumb and forefinger. It was
> rubbing the collar so I released a wee bit of the pressure I was holding
> on the plate with my right hand and wham! - the strong spring load
> slammed the plate to the top of its travel, pushing my left hand along
> with it. This is the hand that was clutching bravely to the bit.
>
> Those suckers are SHARP!
>
> And for those who haven't tried it - getting bloodstains out of white
> oak is a PITA.
>
> Walked around the shop for the rest of the day saying "Dumb!"
>
> Moral of the story - routers can bite you even when they're not plugged in.
>
> Vic
>

En

"EXT"

in reply to "Vic Baron" on 15/10/2009 4:37 PM

16/10/2009 6:10 PM

Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Oct 15, 10:41 pm, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Oct 15, 8:21 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Similar thing happened to me this past summer when I was building
> > > those garden benches. Only in my case, it was a new, really sharp
> > > hand saw that I'd bought at Lee Valley and I didn't even know I'd
> > > cut my hand. While assembling a bench, I noticed streaks of red
> > > on it and was confused as hell trying to find out where all this
> > > 'red' was coming from.
> >
> > Sounds like the cuts I get from my scraper planes. I am totally
> > aware that the things have a taste for blood, but they still get
> > me. I'll just barely touch one, and then it's the waiting game to
> > see how long the cut will take to start to bleed. Sometimes I'm
> > pulling the cut open and it still doesn't bleed, so I think I got
> > lucky. Next morning there's a sore spot and the start of a scab.
> >
> > R
>
> The creepiest explanation of 'sharp' I ever heard was from a 5-foot
> German machinist with round wire-rim glasses who was talking about
> planer knives and with a thick german accent said: "Those knives must
> be so sharp than when you touch them, they schtick to you."

The worst of all is to change a cutting blade on a paper cutting guillotine,
the blades are about 1/2" thick, several inches tall and range from 30" long
up to 48" long and can weigh several pounds. A newly sharpened blade is as
sharp as a razor blade, move the blade the wrong way or grab it wrong can
sever fingers or tendons. No one was allowed to go near the guy who got to
change the blade while he was working on it as he could not afford to loose
his concentration.

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to "Vic Baron" on 15/10/2009 4:37 PM

15/10/2009 7:49 PM

On Oct 15, 10:41=A0pm, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Oct 15, 8:21=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>
> > Similar thing happened to me this past summer when I was building
> > those garden benches. Only in my case, it was a new, really sharp hand
> > saw that I'd bought at Lee Valley and I didn't even know I'd cut my
> > hand. While assembling a bench, I noticed streaks of red on it and was
> > confused as hell trying to find out where all this 'red' was coming
> > from.
>
> Sounds like the cuts I get from my scraper planes. =A0I am totally aware
> that the things have a taste for blood, but they still get me. =A0I'll
> just barely touch one, and then it's the waiting game to see how long
> the cut will take to start to bleed. =A0Sometimes I'm pulling the cut
> open and it still doesn't bleed, so I think I got lucky. =A0Next morning
> there's a sore spot and the start of a scab.
>
> R

The creepiest explanation of 'sharp' I ever heard was from a 5-foot
German machinist with round wire-rim glasses who was talking about
planer knives and with a thick german accent said: "Those knives must
be so sharp than when you touch them, they schtick to you."

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to "Vic Baron" on 15/10/2009 4:37 PM

15/10/2009 7:53 PM

On Oct 15, 10:49=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The creepiest explanation of 'sharp' I ever heard was from a 5-foot
> German machinist with round wire-rim glasses who was talking about
> planer knives and with a thick german accent said: "Those knives must
> be so sharp than when you touch them, they schtick to you."

Did the guy work on Dustin Hoffman's teeth...?

R

Jn

"Joe"

in reply to "Vic Baron" on 15/10/2009 4:37 PM

17/10/2009 7:16 PM


"EXT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Oct 15, 10:41 pm, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > On Oct 15, 8:21 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Similar thing happened to me this past summer when I was building
>> > > those garden benches. Only in my case, it was a new, really sharp
>> > > hand saw that I'd bought at Lee Valley and I didn't even know I'd
>> > > cut my hand. While assembling a bench, I noticed streaks of red
>> > > on it and was confused as hell trying to find out where all this
>> > > 'red' was coming from.
>> >
>> > Sounds like the cuts I get from my scraper planes. I am totally
>> > aware that the things have a taste for blood, but they still get
>> > me. I'll just barely touch one, and then it's the waiting game to
>> > see how long the cut will take to start to bleed. Sometimes I'm
>> > pulling the cut open and it still doesn't bleed, so I think I got
>> > lucky. Next morning there's a sore spot and the start of a scab.
>> >
>> > R
>>
>> The creepiest explanation of 'sharp' I ever heard was from a 5-foot
>> German machinist with round wire-rim glasses who was talking about
>> planer knives and with a thick german accent said: "Those knives must
>> be so sharp than when you touch them, they schtick to you."
>
> The worst of all is to change a cutting blade on a paper cutting
> guillotine, the blades are about 1/2" thick, several inches tall and range
> from 30" long up to 48" long and can weigh several pounds. A newly
> sharpened blade is as sharp as a razor blade, move the blade the wrong way
> or grab it wrong can sever fingers or tendons. No one was allowed to go
> near the guy who got to change the blade while he was working on it as he
> could not afford to loose his concentration.
Reminds me of the blade on a big offset press I used to work on which was
set up to cut magazine cover stock on the fly (couple/few thousand fpm).
five foot (at least) long blades rotating on a cylinder. cover stock went
between this blade and a fixed piece of steel. the blade and the fixed
piece never touched, but they severed that magazine cover stock neat as you
please. I never did ask what the tolerences were between the two. I wish I
had. Certainly, it was something that you'd never want to get too close to
with a finger.

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to "Vic Baron" on 15/10/2009 4:37 PM

15/10/2009 8:14 PM

On Oct 15, 10:55=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Oct 15, 10:53=A0pm, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 15, 10:49=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > The creepiest explanation of 'sharp' I ever heard was from a 5-foot
> > > German machinist with round wire-rim glasses who was talking about
> > > planer knives and with a thick german accent said: "Those knives must
> > > be so sharp than when you touch them, they schtick to you."
>
> > Did the guy work on Dustin Hoffman's teeth...?
>
>
> Call me uninformed....but huh?

The last thirty seconds or so:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTPQ7KMCrPLE

R

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to "Vic Baron" on 15/10/2009 4:37 PM

15/10/2009 4:43 PM

On Oct 15, 7:37=A0pm, "Vic Baron" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Bought a couple of extra long up spiral router bits for my mortising jig.
> Decided to try some template routing so installed the bushing and collar =
and
> bit in my M12V - a brand new one I had in a drawer so I hadn't reworked t=
he
> plunge springs etc.
>
> IAC, I had the router on the bench and was checking to be sure it wasn't
> rubbing on the guide collar so I pressed down on the router plate and
> compressed the springs while I grabbed the bit (by the business end) and
> started to rotate the bit between left thumb and forefinger. It was rubbi=
ng
> the collar so I released a wee bit of the pressure I was holding on the
> plate with my right hand and wham! - the strong spring load slammed the
> plate to the top of its travel, pushing my left hand along with it. This =
is
> the hand that was clutching bravely to the bit.
>
> Those suckers =A0are SHARP!
>
> And for those who haven't tried it - getting bloodstains out of white oak=
is
> a PITA.
>
> Walked around the shop for the rest of the day saying "Dumb!"
>
> Moral of the story - routers can bite you even when they're not plugged i=
n.
>
> Vic
>
> --
> There are 10 kinds of people - those who understand binary and those who
> don't

Well, Vic.....I know exactly what you're talking about... right down
to the make of the router..yup.. happened to a friend of mine..yea,
that's the ticket... a friend of mind..yup...

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to "Vic Baron" on 15/10/2009 4:37 PM

15/10/2009 7:41 PM

On Oct 15, 8:21=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> Similar thing happened to me this past summer when I was building
> those garden benches. Only in my case, it was a new, really sharp hand
> saw that I'd bought at Lee Valley and I didn't even know I'd cut my
> hand. While assembling a bench, I noticed streaks of red on it and was
> confused as hell trying to find out where all this 'red' was coming
> from.

Sounds like the cuts I get from my scraper planes. I am totally aware
that the things have a taste for blood, but they still get me. I'll
just barely touch one, and then it's the waiting game to see how long
the cut will take to start to bleed. Sometimes I'm pulling the cut
open and it still doesn't bleed, so I think I got lucky. Next morning
there's a sore spot and the start of a scab.

R

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to "Vic Baron" on 15/10/2009 4:37 PM

15/10/2009 7:55 PM

On Oct 15, 10:53=A0pm, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Oct 15, 10:49=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The creepiest explanation of 'sharp' I ever heard was from a 5-foot
> > German machinist with round wire-rim glasses who was talking about
> > planer knives and with a thick german accent said: "Those knives must
> > be so sharp than when you touch them, they schtick to you."
>
> Did the guy work on Dustin Hoffman's teeth...?
>
> R

Call me uninformed....but huh?

u

in reply to "Vic Baron" on 15/10/2009 4:37 PM

15/10/2009 8:21 PM

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:43:35 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Well, Vic.....I know exactly what you're talking about... right down
>to the make of the router..yup.. happened to a friend of mine..yea,
>that's the ticket... a friend of mind..yup...

Similar thing happened to me this past summer when I was building
those garden benches. Only in my case, it was a new, really sharp hand
saw that I'd bought at Lee Valley and I didn't even know I'd cut my
hand. While assembling a bench, I noticed streaks of red on it and was
confused as hell trying to find out where all this 'red' was coming
from.

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to "Vic Baron" on 15/10/2009 4:37 PM

15/10/2009 8:32 PM

On Oct 15, 11:14=A0pm, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Oct 15, 10:55=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 15, 10:53=A0pm, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 15, 10:49=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > The creepiest explanation of 'sharp' I ever heard was from a 5-foot
> > > > German machinist with round wire-rim glasses who was talking about
> > > > planer knives and with a thick german accent said: "Those knives mu=
st
> > > > be so sharp than when you touch them, they schtick to you."
>
> > > Did the guy work on Dustin Hoffman's teeth...?
>
> > Call me uninformed....but huh?
>
> The last thirty seconds or so:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTPQ7KMCrPL=
E
>
> R

*shudder*


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