liquid hide glue

I know glue making in detail as I served for 20 years in a quality hide
glue factory in a senior position.The problum is to make liquid hide
glue to avoid daily heating.

I know glue making in detail as I served for 20 years in a quality hide
glue factory in a senior position.The problum is to make liquid hide
glue to avoid daily heating for making furniture..

Wed, Jan 19, 2005, 7:45pm (EST-3) [email protected] (SaeedCh) says:
I am near lahore.Various glues are available but are not of animal
origin.I want to make liquid hide glue to use it easily.Thankyou.SaeedCh

Well, here's instructions for making hide glue, from scratch, which
is what Iake it you want to do:
http://www.uqac.uquebec.ca/PleinAir/toolsgl1.htm

This site has a LOT on using it:
http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu:8080/~cswingle/archive/get.phtml?message_id=133866&submit_thread=1

I take it you're going to use it for woodworking. What type of
woodworking?



JOAT
Charity ain't giving people what you wants to give, it's giving people
what they need to get.
- Albert

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:56:18 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>You can make hide glue by cutting rawhide into tiny pieces and cooking
>it gently with water until it becomes thick and vicsous.

I was warned off this for archival work and told to always work with
fresh hide, not dried rawhide. Rawhide isn't entirely "raw".

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:14:57 -0500, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:

>Wed, Jan 19, 2005, 7:45pm (EST-3) [email protected] (SaeedCh) says:
>I am near lahore.Various glues are available but are not of animal
>origin.I want to make liquid hide glue to use it easily.Thankyou.SaeedCh
>
> Well, here's instructions for making hide glue, from scratch, which
>is what Iake it you want to do:
>http://www.uqac.uquebec.ca/PleinAir/toolsgl1.htm
>
> This site has a LOT on using it:
>http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu:8080/~cswingle/archive/get.phtml?message_id=133866&submit_thread=1
>
> I take it you're going to use it for woodworking. What type of
>woodworking?
>
>
>
>JOAT
>Charity ain't giving people what you wants to give, it's giving people
>what they need to get.
>- Albert

You can make hide glue by cutting rawhide into tiny pieces and cooking
it gently with water until it becomes thick and vicsous. Strain it,
pour it onto a metal sheet and alow it to dry. Then flake it off and
pound the larger chunks down to a convenient size.

Result: hide glue.

Here's a method from a Web site: (note that vellum is pretty much the
same as rawhide for our purposes)

If you want to make your own hide glue to use in gesso, or for other
projects, it is easy enough to do.

4 ounces of vellum scraps
2 pints of distilled water
a small enamel pot
piece of loosely woven cloth (to use as strainer)
bowl – can be disposable plastic

Bring the water to a boil then reduce the heat to simmer and add the
vellum scraps. Do not let the water boil once the vellum is added to
it. This will reduce the effectiveness of the resulting glue. Allow
this to simmer for one and a half hours (about half of the water will
evaporate). Remove the pan from the heat and allow it to cool
slightly. Strain it through a plain white piece of loosely woven cloth
into a clean bowl. Let the glue to sit at room temperature in a cool,
dry place out of direct sunlight overnight. It will congeal into a
jelly. Turn the bowl upside down and remove the jelly onto a piece of
plastic wrap. Slice the jelly into ¼ inch slices and allow to dry out
of sunlight. This will take several days.

To use the glue: take a slice or two of the dried glue and warm it in
a bit of water. You can do this in a small metal or ceramic dish over
a candle or on a stove burner. Once again do not allow it to come to a
boil or it will be useless as glue.
"Sometimes history doesn't repeat itself. It just yells
'can't you remember anything I've told you?' and lets
fly with a club.
-- John W. Cambell Jr.

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 01:48:03 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>For archival work, perhaps. But I don't think it matters for
>carpentry/cabinetmaking.

Sorry, not "archival". I meant restoration work on quality stuff, but
woodwork not books.

No-one has been fool enough to let me loose on them yet, but there's a
17th century oak chest that needs a few replacement decorative split
turnings making for it. I'm thinking of hide glue rather than wax as
an adhesive.

Also some sword work (I've never worked on anything before 1800 before
8-) ), but that's rice glue.

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 01:03:42 +0000, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:56:18 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>You can make hide glue by cutting rawhide into tiny pieces and cooking
>>it gently with water until it becomes thick and vicsous.
>
>I was warned off this for archival work and told to always work with
>fresh hide, not dried rawhide. Rawhide isn't entirely "raw".

For archival work, perhaps. But I don't think it matters for
carpentry/cabinetmaking. However if you can get fresh, de-fleshed and
de-haired hide, then by all means use it.

--RC
"Sometimes history doesn't repeat itself. It just yells
'can't you remember anything I've told you?' and lets
fly with a club.
-- John W. Cambell Jr.