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"Bill Stock"

30/09/2004 12:06 AM

The oven trick works

Probably old news for most of you, but the oven trick works for ungluing.

I had a panel that I need to unglue (Lepages), so I popped in the oven for
an hour at 200 F. It came apart no problem and I was able to clean the old
glue out of the joint.



This topic has 15 replies

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to "Bill Stock" on 30/09/2004 12:06 AM

29/09/2004 9:30 PM

On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:06:14 -0400, "Bill Stock" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Probably old news for most of you, but the oven trick works for ungluing.
>
>I had a panel that I need to unglue (Lepages), so I popped in the oven for
>an hour at 200 F. It came apart no problem and I was able to clean the old
>glue out of the joint.
>
>

Was that hide glue?

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"mp"

in reply to "Bill Stock" on 30/09/2004 12:06 AM

29/09/2004 11:01 PM

> I had a panel that I need to unglue (Lepages), so I popped in the oven for
> an hour at 200 F. It came apart no problem and I was able to clean the old
> glue out of the joint.

And, as an added bonus, the wood is now kiln dried.

ON

Old Nick

in reply to "Bill Stock" on 30/09/2004 12:06 AM

30/09/2004 10:08 PM

On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:32:43 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:

remove ns from my header address to reply via email

Suck a Tictac....blow your nose...stick it!
>Well you just answered my 44 year old question... LOL Probably Mint plant
>mucous.
>

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"Bill Stock"

in reply to "Bill Stock" on 30/09/2004 12:06 AM

30/09/2004 12:52 AM


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:G%[email protected]...
>
> "Bill Stock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Probably old news for most of you, but the oven trick works for
ungluing.
> >
> > I had a panel that I need to unglue (Lepages), so I popped in the oven
for
> > an hour at 200 F. It came apart no problem and I was able to clean the
old
> > glue out of the joint.
>
> So the wood was not damaged?
>


There's a bit of darkening on the bottom, but it will probably sand out. I'm
sure if I'd put a pan under the panel to prevent direct heat, this could
have been avoided. It would probably be a good idea to use the top rack as
well. Since the bottom of the panel will be out of sight (not a door), I'm
not too concerned.


BS

"Bill Stock"

in reply to "Bill Stock" on 30/09/2004 12:06 AM

30/09/2004 12:46 AM


"toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Geez, 6 months ago I asked about ungluing and was told it was impossible.
> I am not familiar with Lepages; is it plain old yellow glue?
>

Yep, I think it's a PVA glue. Don't have the bottle handy.




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"toller"

in reply to "Bill Stock" on 30/09/2004 12:06 AM

30/09/2004 4:31 AM

Geez, 6 months ago I asked about ungluing and was told it was impossible.
I am not familiar with Lepages; is it plain old yellow glue?

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Bill Stock" on 30/09/2004 12:06 AM

30/09/2004 4:32 AM


"Bill Stock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Probably old news for most of you, but the oven trick works for ungluing.
>
> I had a panel that I need to unglue (Lepages), so I popped in the oven for
> an hour at 200 F. It came apart no problem and I was able to clean the old
> glue out of the joint.

So the wood was not damaged?

JW

Jim Wilson

in reply to "Bill Stock" on 30/09/2004 12:06 AM

30/09/2004 4:47 AM

Leon wrote...
>
> "Bill Stock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Probably old news for most of you, but the oven trick works for ungluing.
> >
> > I had a panel that I need to unglue (Lepages), so I popped in the oven for
> > an hour at 200 F. It came apart no problem and I was able to clean the old
> > glue out of the joint.
>
> So the wood was not damaged?

I should think not, at only 200F. Certainly won't char, for example. If
it weren't dry, it might move a bit due to moisture loss.

Cheers!

Jim

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Bill Stock" on 30/09/2004 12:06 AM

30/09/2004 4:36 AM


"toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Geez, 6 months ago I asked about ungluing and was told it was impossible.
> I am not familiar with Lepages; is it plain old yellow glue?


The Lepages glue I remember was used as a "school glue". I had a bottle of
it in grammar school. I remember it because the label actually indicated
that it was " Mint Flavored" . Amber and translucent. Looked like and was
about the same consistency as honey.

LZ

Luigi Zanasi

in reply to "Bill Stock" on 30/09/2004 12:06 AM

29/09/2004 9:56 PM

On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 04:31:32 GMT, "toller" <[email protected]>
scribbled:

>Geez, 6 months ago I asked about ungluing and was told it was impossible.
>I am not familiar with Lepages; is it plain old yellow glue?

Lepage is a glue manufacturer, probably only in Canada. All kinds of
adhesives, white glue, yellow carpenter's glue, water resistant PVA,
construction adhesives, contact cement, rubber cement, etc. I also
remember Lepage paper glue (mucilage ?) in elementary school. It came
in small glass bottles with a rubber spout that you pressed on the
stuff to be glued which would then open the slit & let some glue out.
I will never admit to having eaten any of the stuff.

OP probably means white (Lepage Bondfast) or yellow (Lepage
Carpenter's) glue.

Luigi
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Gg

GerryG

in reply to "Bill Stock" on 30/09/2004 12:06 AM

30/09/2004 3:20 PM

That will either soften or liquify several types of glue. Further, white glue
can be handled at an even lower temperature, for less wood damage, maybe 160.
Chris Minick reported this in an article somewhere that I can't find right
now. For joints, I've used a combination of water and (carefully) a heat gun
with good success.
GerryG

On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:06:14 -0400, "Bill Stock" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Probably old news for most of you, but the oven trick works for ungluing.
>
>I had a panel that I need to unglue (Lepages), so I popped in the oven for
>an hour at 200 F. It came apart no problem and I was able to clean the old
>glue out of the joint.
>
>

FC

Fly-by-Night CC

in reply to "Bill Stock" on 30/09/2004 12:06 AM

29/09/2004 10:08 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:

> The Lepages glue I remember was used as a "school glue". I had a bottle of
> it in grammar school. I remember it because the label actually indicated
> that it was " Mint Flavored" . Amber and translucent. Looked like and was
> about the same consistency as honey.

Sounds like mucilage. IOW, plant mucous.

--
Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Bill Stock" on 30/09/2004 12:06 AM

30/09/2004 11:31 AM


"Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 04:31:32 GMT, "toller" <[email protected]>
> scribbled:

> I will never admit to having eaten any of the stuff.


LOL.... Was yours Mint Flavored also... Did you ever "not eat" ;~) any
white paste either?

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Bill Stock" on 30/09/2004 12:06 AM

30/09/2004 11:32 AM


"Fly-by-Night CC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Sounds like mucilage. IOW, plant mucous.

Well you just answered my 44 year old question... LOL Probably Mint plant
mucous.

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Bill Stock" on 30/09/2004 12:06 AM

30/09/2004 9:00 AM


"Bill Stock" wrote in message

> have been avoided. It would probably be a good idea to use the top rack as
> well.

On the top rack,eh? Let's see ... "Broiled" white oak, the latest in
finishing techniques. ;>)


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