On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 19:29:18 -0500, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:
>http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles/sanders64.html
JOAT, I sometimes wonder just what you are searching for when you find
these gems.
re. Live traps - if you are trapping skunks too small is better than
too big. They will squeeze into a pretty tight space, but if you give
them room to move around in the trap - watch out!
--
"We need to make a sacrifice to the gods, find me a young virgin... oh, and bring something to kill"
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
Sat, Nov 5, 2005, 8:25pm (EST-3) [email protected]
(Tim=A0Douglass) doth wondereth:
<snip> JOAT, I sometimes wonder just what you are searching for when you
find these gems. <snip>
Hell, I don't know what I was looking for, not traps, that's for
sure. Something on boats, or boatbuilding, I think. Maybe. I love
google.
JOAT
If it ain't broke, don't lend it.
- Red Green
Sat, Nov 5, 2005, 8:25pm (EST-3) [email protected]
(Tim=A0Douglass) did say:
JOAT, I sometimes wonder just what you are searching for when you find
these gems. <snip>
On second thought, I may have ran across this somewhere about the
time I found the lawnmower propane conversion. But, I still don't recall
what I was looking for in the first place.
JOAT
If it ain't broke, don't lend it.
- Red Green
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 20:25:46 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm, Tim
Douglass <[email protected]> quickly quoth:
>On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 19:29:18 -0500, [email protected] (J T)
>wrote:
>
>>http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles/sanders64.html
>
>JOAT, I sometimes wonder just what you are searching for when you find
>these gems.
What, you have something against a man feeding himself? <bseg>
>re. Live traps - if you are trapping skunks too small is better than
>too big. They will squeeze into a pretty tight space, but if you give
>them room to move around in the trap - watch out!
Right, figure out a way to remotely release any unwanted detainees.
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On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 20:25:46 -0800, Tim Douglass
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 19:29:18 -0500, [email protected] (J T)
>wrote:
>
>>http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles/sanders64.html
>
>JOAT, I sometimes wonder just what you are searching for when you find
>these gems.
>
>re. Live traps - if you are trapping skunks too small is better than
>too big. They will squeeze into a pretty tight space, but if you give
>them room to move around in the trap - watch out!
There's a secret to (live) trapping skunks and not getting sprayed.
When we lived in the suburbs (walking distance to a major mall) we had
a skunk problem. They would come onto the patio and mingle with our
cats as they enjoyed the cat food. Animal Control came out a few
times and trapped them for us, but often we had a hard time getting
them to respond. I rented a trap several times and finally figuered
that I'd be money ahead to just buy my own.
So without much thought I bought the same size that I had been
renting, which is way bigger than necessary for skunks. But it worked
and now that I'm out in the desert with no skunks I mostly use it for
pack rats. (For them I follow up with a pellet gun.)
Oh... the secret... put the trap in a bag and they won't spray. I use
a 30 gallon plastic trash bag, but for a smaller trap a grocery bag
would do.
Sun, Nov 6, 2005, 8:06am (EST-2) n7ws*@*yahoo.com (Wes=A0Stewart) hath
claimed:
When we lived in the suburbs (walking distance to a major mall) we had a
skunk problem. =A0 They would come onto the patio and mingle with our
cats as they enjoyed the cat food. <snip>
Oh, I don't know. As long as they weren't spraying anyone, no
major problem. After all, you could have fed the cats inside. But,
they would probably have gotten used to you, and wouldn't be aggressive
toward you. As a plus, they might well spray anyone prowling around
that they weren't used to, like burglars - watch skunks.
JOAT
If it ain't broke, don't lend it.
- Red Green
On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 14:10:42 -0500, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:
>Sun, Nov 6, 2005, 8:06am (EST-2) n7ws*@*yahoo.com (Wes Stewart) hath
>claimed:
>When we lived in the suburbs (walking distance to a major mall) we had a
>skunk problem. They would come onto the patio and mingle with our
>cats as they enjoyed the cat food. <snip>
>
> Oh, I don't know. As long as they weren't spraying anyone, no
>major problem. After all, you could have fed the cats inside. But,
>they would probably have gotten used to you, and wouldn't be aggressive
>toward you. As a plus, they might well spray anyone prowling around
>that they weren't used to, like burglars - watch skunks.
Here, skunks are a major rabies carrier. That is the main reason
Animal Control would trap (and dispatch) them. I started trapping
myself after I called them once in December and the guy, who obviously
didn't want to do his job, told me, "Rabies isn't a problem in the
winter. But if they're mingling with your cats and we come out, we
will quarantine your cats unless they've had rabies shots."
When I talked to my vet to get history of their last shots and report
him this conversation he said, "What an asshole, rabies isn't a
seasonal disease."
My then three-year-old son went through two weeks of rabies shots
after he was bitten by a dog, that I had just adopted, from all
places, Animal Control. It seems the bozos don't quarantine adoptable
dogs long enough to verify they're rabies free. Trust me, it is no
fun.
Sat, Nov 5, 2005, 7:41pm [email protected] (Greg=A0G.) doth sayeth:
Hey, I could use a large live trap like that for the packs of dogs that
roam at night and attack our animals and dig in the trash...
And paint it bright yellow... in your honor...
If they's pets roaming free, need to call animal control Of
course, if they're pets probably be OK trapping them, easy enough to
enlarge the plans. If they ARE just pets roaming, a BB gun will work.
I've found they'll come back after the first time you pop them in the
rear, but never more than three times total. A couple of years back, I
got a 15-shot CO2 BB pistol. It'll pop off those 15 BBs as fast as you
can pull the trigger. No call to use it on a dog, so far.
If they's wild (feral) dogs, best to deal with them is a 12 guage,
buckshot, and at least one buddy, with the same -so you can watch each
other's back. You do NOT want to try a BB gun on ferel dogs.
Eiher way, you can paint them yellow when you're done.
JOAT
If it ain't broke, don't lend it.
- Red Green
J T said:
>Sat, Nov 5, 2005, 7:41pm [email protected] (Greg G.) doth sayeth:
>Hey, I could use a large live trap like that for the packs of dogs that
>roam at night and attack our animals and dig in the trash...
>And paint it bright yellow... in your honor...
>
> If they's pets roaming free, need to call animal control Of
>course, if they're pets probably be OK trapping them, easy enough to
>enlarge the plans. If they ARE just pets roaming, a BB gun will work.
>I've found they'll come back after the first time you pop them in the
>rear, but never more than three times total. A couple of years back, I
>got a 15-shot CO2 BB pistol. It'll pop off those 15 BBs as fast as you
>can pull the trigger. No call to use it on a dog, so far.
>
> If they's wild (feral) dogs, best to deal with them is a 12 guage,
>buckshot, and at least one buddy, with the same -so you can watch each
>other's back. You do NOT want to try a BB gun on ferel dogs.
>
> Eiher way, you can paint them yellow when you're done.
Animal control doesn't come - but if they did, the dogs would either
be gone or the neighbors would get all pissy about it. They're
stupid, young, republican types. The world owes 'em. No
inconvenience is to great to inflict on others. And I still have to
live here next door to them.
But I think it's a combination. The locals just turn their dogs loose
at night at precisely 10:00pm and they gang up for the hunt. But the
last time I went out to stop them from killing one of our animals,
most turned and ran, but a couple of _really_ ratty looking ones
turned on me, snarled and looked like they were gonna go for me
instead. I just growled back and went after them, and they ran off.
But that only works a couple of times before they get brave enough to
attack. One of these suckers was almost half as tall as me - and real
nasty. I'm pretty sure it was feral.
I've got a shotgun and a pistol, but the law says you can't use 'em.
And I'd hate to have a hunk of lead fly through a house full of kids.
(There isn't much in these houses substantial enough to stop a bullet
- probably #6 buckshot either.) And believe it or not, this is in a
subdivision near a major SE city. If'n it comes down to me or them,
you better believe they're gonna catch some lead. I really would hate
to shoot the neighbor's dogs, but I do wish they would quit turning
them loose to run. We keep ours under control. But if I have to
clean up one more pile of strewn garbage or step in one more pile of
s#$t and slide down the hill on my arse while mowing the lawn...
I've been wanting to get a BB gun, but the local stores won't carry
them, and I'd have to either order it, or go to the <gulp> mall.
I _really_ hate shopping malls. Just haven't put much effort into it.
Haven't owned one since I was a kid - and WAY before this place got
this crowded. I wouldn't even know what brand was any good anymore.
Thanks,
Greg G.
Sun, Nov 6, 2005, 12:54am [email protected] (Greg=A0G.) sayeth:
Animal control doesn't come- but if they did, the dogs would either be
gone or the neighbors would get all pissy about it.<snip>
But I think it's a combination. The locals just turn their dogs loose at
night at precisely 10:00pm and they gang up for the hunt. But the last
time I went out to stop them from killing one of our animals, most
turned and ran, but a couple of _really_ ratty looking ones turned on
me, snarled and looked like they were gonna go for me instead. I just
growled back and went after them, and they ran off. <snip> I've got a
shotgun and a pistol, but the law says you can't use 'em. <snip>
If it was me, I don't think my neighbors would be bery happy with
me after a bit. First thing I'd probably do is check the leash laws.
Then I'd be a good neighbor, and visit them, and tell them of the
problems I've been having, politely remind them of the law, and say how
very sad I would feel to have to call animal control and/or the law
about dogs running loose. Then I think I'd set some live traps, and
call animal control if I caught any. I'd also notify the local law
enforcement agency(s), and tell them I was fearful for my safety. Feral
dogs have been known to attack. I understand they're quite a problem in
GA. I'd probably start calling the law if the dogs kept coming. I
believe I would also ask them about self-defense, after all, no one
should be able to be afraid to go out at night in their own yard. One
thing I would NOT do is growl at a large dog if I was unarmed,
preferably a shogtun with buckshot, rather than a pistol, especially if
I ought it might be feral. Like I say, if I were in your position I
think I might be just a tad unpopular with my neighbors after awhile. I
live out of town, on a loop road. Neighbors all around, but I'd still
be willing to shoot a dog coming at me. So would they.
You might want to get some binoculars, so check if any dogs are
with, or without tags. Then tell amimal control there's dogs with no
tags. And you think they belong to one of your neighbors. Heheheh
Hmm, now that I think of it, a paintball gun might come in handy.
Yellow paint, of course. Be kind of hard for a neighbor to deny to
authorities his/her dog has been running free, when it's splattered with
paint. My neighbors would probably wind up hating me. Heh heh.
JOAT
If it ain't broke, don't lend it.
- Red Green
J T said:
>Sun, Nov 6, 2005, 12:54am [email protected] (Greg G.) sayeth:
>Animal control doesn't come- but if they did, the dogs would either be
>gone or the neighbors would get all pissy about it.<snip>
> If it was me, I don't think my neighbors would be bery happy with
>me after a bit. First thing I'd probably do is check the leash laws.
Yea, I know. If it weren't for the better half, they would all
probably hate me. She's the type that calls the garage door
repairman, who wants to sell a new opener and changes the springs out
so that the opener has to pull 4 times it's normal weight, and then
won't let me call them to make it right when I find out about it.
That's why I do everything around here...
>believe I would also ask them about self-defense, after all, no one
>should be able to be afraid to go out at night in their own yard.
You got that right.
>thing I would NOT do is growl at a large dog if I was unarmed,
>preferably a shogtun with buckshot, rather than a pistol, especially if
>I ought it might be feral.
Didn't have much choice. I was there in the dark, and these things
popped out of the woods. It was flee or scare them off. If I had
run, I guarantee you they WOULD have pursued. I learned as a kid from
the neighbors three legged dog about that one. It only had three
legs, but it could run as fast as any 12 year old. And mean as h#$l.
Loud and startling is the key... once or twice...
> Like I say, if I were in your position I
>think I might be just a tad unpopular with my neighbors after awhile. I
>live out of town, on a loop road. Neighbors all around, but I'd still
>be willing to shoot a dog coming at me. So would they.
Yup, if it's him or me, he's going down. I had a friend years ago
that had Dobermans - he loved them to death. For some unknown reason,
one of the pups (then grown) attacked his kid. Wouldn't let up. He
ended up shooting the dog.
> Hmm, now that I think of it, a paintball gun might come in handy.
>Yellow paint, of course. Be kind of hard for a neighbor to deny to
>authorities his/her dog has been running free, when it's splattered with
>paint. My neighbors would probably wind up hating me. Heh heh.
That's a pretty good idea, But it has to be really bright yellow...
Greg G.
Sun, Nov 6, 2005, 4:07am [email protected] (Greg=A0G.) doth said:
<snip>Didn't have much choice. I was there <snip>That's a pretty good
idea, But it has to be really bright yellow...
Yep, man on the spot, no one can make the call but him. Can't
argue with that.
I'm not up on that stuff, but seems to me they have some in
florescent yellow. If you go that route, mention my name. LMAO
JOAT
If it ain't broke, don't lend it.
- Red Green
Greg G. (in [email protected]) said:
| Enoch Root said:
|
|| Crossman 760 is available online for about $60. My constant
|| companion as a wee lad. Pump it up 7 times to scare 'em, 15 times
|| to scare 'em well. (although I never shot a dog, so what do I
|| know.)
|
| Putting it that way sounds so.... evil...
| Wouldn't want to hurt 'em, just make 'em leave.
I have my own take on that. I looked out to check on the kids (then
aged 3 and 4) and saw a large dog dragging my youngest by the arm away
from the house. Fired the first round down into the flower bed beside
the front porch to offer discouragement and distraction. The dog
dropped my son and ran toward the barn - it was about ten feet from
the door when I patted it on the head with a second .223 (and to
reassure dog lovers, it neither heard, saw, or felt the bullet.)
I'm not sure how or why I happened to chose that particular instant to
check on the boys; but I've never felt even a little evil about
reacting as I did. Neither have I felt much resonance with the
anti-gun folks.
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html
Sun, Nov 6, 2005, 2:14am (EST-1) [email protected] (Morris=A0Dovey)
sayeth:
I have my own take on that. <snip> large dog dragging my youngest by the
arm <snip> Neither have I felt much resonance with the anti-gun folks.
Well, I happen to be a dog lover. And, think you did exactly the
right thing. I also think you are either a fantastic shot, or very
lucky, hitting a running dog. Ah yes, the anti-gun folks - those are
the ones who expect you to call the police, and have them "protect" you
and yours. It almost makes one wish they would find themselves in a
similar position, except with no firearm handy. I live out in the
country, and "fast" response would take around 15 minutes to reach me,
minimum, from the time of the 911 call - that is, IF I had time to place
one. Let's see, 15 minutes - that means whoever has 5 minutes to beat
me to death, 5 minutes to ransack my place, looking for valluables I
don't own, and then 5 minutes to walk away. Hmm, walking pace of 5
miles per hour, he could probably be around 1/2 mile away - on foot.
That does not compute.
JOAT
If it ain't broke, don't lend it.
- Red Green
J T (in [email protected]) said:
| Well, I happen to be a dog lover. And, think you did exactly
| the right thing. I also think you are either a fantastic shot, or
| very lucky, hitting a running dog. Ah yes, the anti-gun folks -
| those are the ones who expect you to call the police, and have them
| "protect" you and yours. It almost makes one wish they would find
| themselves in a similar position, except with no firearm handy. I
| live out in the country, and "fast" response would take around 15
| minutes to reach me, minimum, from the time of the 911 call - that
| is, IF I had time to place one. Let's see, 15 minutes - that means
| whoever has 5 minutes to beat me to death, 5 minutes to ransack my
| place, looking for valluables I don't own, and then 5 minutes to
| walk away. Hmm, walking pace of 5 miles per hour, he could
| probably be around 1/2 mile away - on foot. That does not compute.
Thanks. I am (was, I haven't fired a shot in over twenty years) a
fairly good shot. Was on match rifle team all through high school,
used up all the ammo Uncle Sam provided, and enjoyed hunting until I
bought a home in Minnesota with its own patch of woods - when I began
doing most of my shooting with a camera. The rifle was a Colt
Sporter-1 (M16 sans third selector switch position) with a 3-9X
Bushnell. The .223 trajectory is so flat that it seems nearly
line-of-sight, which makes missing almost difficult. I remember that
"time warp" feeling in which the world seemed to slow to a crawl while
I took slow and deliberate aim (probably between heartbeats) and
gently squeezed off the shot.
My Minnesota home was similarly "remote" to fire and police services.
Police and fire folks took a half hour or more to show up - and the
closest animal control folks were on the far side of the county.
My son was a bit frightened but not hurt. Things happened so quickly
that he didn't realize what was going on until it was all over - but
then he was hustled into the house for milk and cookies before he had
much chance to think abut it.
Hugs and home made toll house cookies have the remarkable property of
restoring kids' emotional equilibrium almost instantly. :-)
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html
Greg G. wrote:
> I've been wanting to get a BB gun, but the local stores won't carry
> them, and I'd have to either order it, or go to the <gulp> mall.
> I _really_ hate shopping malls. Just haven't put much effort into it.
> Haven't owned one since I was a kid - and WAY before this place got
> this crowded. I wouldn't even know what brand was any good anymore.
Crossman 760 is available online for about $60. My constant companion
as a wee lad. Pump it up 7 times to scare 'em, 15 times to scare 'em
well. (although I never shot a dog, so what do I know.)
er
--
Sat, Nov 5, 2005, 10:52pm (EST-3) [email protected] (Enoch=A0Root)
dad say:
Crossman 760 is available online for about $60. My constant companion as
a wee lad. Pump it up 7 times to scare 'em, 15 times to scare 'em well.
(although I never shot a dog, so what do I know.)
When I mentioned a BB gun, I was talking about one dog, and not
feral. You got a pack of dogs, and one shot, and that probably not
lethal, you might wind up just pissing them off. Possibly, if you had a
BB machinegun, and sprayed all of them with it everytime they came
around, that might work. However, in that case, I would advise shooting
from an open doorway, and be prepared to duck inside very quickly, and
shut the door, very quickly, and very tightly, behind me. There are
plans for BB machineguns on line, or BB machine guns are for saly on
line, maybe $200-300. Make your own, with a huge BB hopper, and power
it with an air compressor.
JOAT
If it ain't broke, don't lend it.
- Red Green
J T said:
>Sat, Nov 5, 2005, 10:52pm (EST-3) [email protected] (Enoch Root)
>dad say:
>Crossman 760 is available online for about $60. My constant companion as
>a wee lad. Pump it up 7 times to scare 'em, 15 times to scare 'em well.
>(although I never shot a dog, so what do I know.)
>
> When I mentioned a BB gun, I was talking about one dog, and not
>feral. You got a pack of dogs, and one shot, and that probably not
>lethal, you might wind up just pissing them off. Possibly, if you had a
>BB machinegun, and sprayed all of them with it everytime they came
>around, that might work. However, in that case, I would advise shooting
>from an open doorway, and be prepared to duck inside very quickly, and
>shut the door, very quickly, and very tightly, behind me. There are
>plans for BB machineguns on line, or BB machine guns are for saly on
>line, maybe $200-300. Make your own, with a huge BB hopper, and power
>it with an air compressor.
Funny you should mention that, and stupid that I didn't think of it,
but when I worked as a mechanic (many years ago), ball bearing guns
were... well... sort of a sport around some shops. Various designs
like the one you mention were occasionally seen.
Then again, I don't think I could have grabbed all the paraphernalia
needed and got it hooked up in time to rescue anyone...
Greg G.
Sun, Nov 6, 2005, 3:52am [email protected] (Greg=A0G.) spoketh so:
Funny you should mention that, and stupid that I didn't think of it, but
when I worked as a mechanic (many years ago), ball bearing guns were...
well... sort of a sport around some shops. Various designs like the one
you mention were occasionally seen.
Then again, I don't think I could have grabbed all the paraphernalia
needed and got it hooked up in time to rescue anyone...
True, you'd have to have a compress air tank to be reasonably
mobile with one. For some reason, I was thinking of having the
compressor inside, and already hooked up.
Forgot to mention before, I'd start documenting this on video,
before taking any direct action. But, I wouldn't put that off to talk
to the neighbors first. I'd start with that first, then talk to them.
It's hard to do much with "his word against your word". But, if you get
that far, it's very hard to dispute taped proof. Unless you opt to move
- if it was me, I'd probably consider that - you've pretty much got to
get along with your neighbors. That doesn't necessarily mean talk to
them, and be buddies - I don't talk to any of my neighbors, unless we
see each other in the store or something, but we at least wave when we
see each other. So, I'd try to keep it friendly, if possible, and keep
the tape in reserve. I do not think I'd want to show it to any of the
neighbors. I think I'd keep it, and if absolutely necessary, turn it
over to proper authorities, and let them show it, if things get that
far, and need be. I'd start low level, and work up, maybe eventually
getting with some of the city and/or county officials.
A viable option might be an electric fence around your garbage
cans. We got a dog level electric fence, but it didn't work welll. So,
we looked more, and found one rated at pets for the bottom level, up to
cattle. Works like a charm. If you don't believe that, you're welcome
to come up and grab outs. LOL Or, the BB gun option. Mine is a
Powerline, Model 15XT, C02 BB, by Daisy - 15 shot, semi-auto. Got mine
at Wally World, for around $30-35 if I recall right. It'll sting a dog,
but not "hurt" them. I wouldn't want to do anything to wound a dog, so
my next level up would be lethal. But, my first step would definitely
be to immediately start documenting this stuff on tape, no matter what
my next step would be.
JOAT
If it ain't broke, don't lend it.
- Red Green
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 00:54:47 -0500, Greg G.<[email protected]> wrote:
>Animal control doesn't come - but if they did, the dogs would either
>be gone or the neighbors would get all pissy about it.
<snip>
Sounds like it's time for a big pit trap with spikes at the bottom.
It might work on the dogs too. :)
Mark
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 00:54:47 -0500, Greg G.<[email protected]> wrote:
>I've been wanting to get a BB gun, but the local stores won't carry
>them
http://search.ebay.com/bb-gun_W0QQcatrefZC3QQfromZR2
On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 00:01:07 -0500, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:
>Sat, Nov 5, 2005, 7:41pm [email protected] (Greg G.) doth sayeth:
>Hey, I could use a large live trap like that for the packs of dogs that
>roam at night and attack our animals and dig in the trash...
>And paint it bright yellow... in your honor...
>
> If they's pets roaming free, need to call animal control Of
>course, if they're pets probably be OK trapping them, easy enough to
>enlarge the plans. If they ARE just pets roaming, a BB gun will work.
>I've found they'll come back after the first time you pop them in the
>rear, but never more than three times total. A couple of years back, I
>got a 15-shot CO2 BB pistol. It'll pop off those 15 BBs as fast as you
>can pull the trigger. No call to use it on a dog, so far.
>
> If they's wild (feral) dogs, best to deal with them is a 12 guage,
>buckshot, and at least one buddy, with the same -so you can watch each
>other's back. You do NOT want to try a BB gun on ferel dogs.
>
> Eiher way, you can paint them yellow when you're done.
From the Arizona Daily Star Archives.
"Dog shot; man faces felonies
October 18, 2005 259 words ID: MERLIN_3338203
A 50-year-old security guard faces felony charges in the fatal
shooting of a dog Monday morning in a Midtown neighborhood,
authorities said. The shooting occurred as the dog's owner tried to
corral the animal, which had escaped by digging under a fence, said
Sgt. Ramon Batista, a Tucson Police Department spokesman. The owner,
whose name was not released, was not injured, but police said the dog
was struck by one of three bullets discharged from a handgun...."
See the problem here is the other two bullets.
Sun, Nov 6, 2005, 8:18am (EST-2) n7ws*@*yahoo.com (Wes=A0Stewart) has
posted:
From the Arizona Daily Star Archives.
"Dog shot; man faces felonies
October 18, 2005 =95=95 259 words =95=95 ID: MERLIN_3338203 A
50-year-old security guard faces felony charges in the fatal shooting of
a dog Monday morning in a Midtown neighborhood, authorities said. The
shooting occurred as the dog's owner tried to corral the animal, which
had escaped by digging under a fence, said Sgt. Ramon Batista, a Tucson
Police Department spokesman. The owner, whose name was not released, was
not injured, but police said the dog was struck by one of three bullets
discharged from a handgun...."
See the problem here is the other two bullets.
Unless the shooter, or someone else, was actively being attacked by
the dog, which was apparently not the case, there would appear to be no
reason to shoot - except for stupidity. Lots of that going around.
JOAT
If it ain't broke, don't lend it.
- Red Green
Mr. Moose said:
>On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 00:54:47 -0500, Greg G.<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Animal control doesn't come - but if they did, the dogs would either
>>be gone or the neighbors would get all pissy about it.
>
><snip>
>
>Sounds like it's time for a big pit trap with spikes at the bottom.
If you only knew...
>It might work on the dogs too. :)
Just might. I'd be afraid of trapping the UPS guy - can't miss those
occasional tool mail orders.
I believe they have dead-man trap laws here as well...
(Yea, I know, you're kidding...)
Greg G.
Enoch Root said:
>Crossman 760 is available online for about $60. My constant companion
>as a wee lad. Pump it up 7 times to scare 'em, 15 times to scare 'em
>well. (although I never shot a dog, so what do I know.)
Putting it that way sounds so.... evil...
Wouldn't want to hurt 'em, just make 'em leave.
Greg G.