On 6/6/2017 6:33 PM, Leon wrote:
> It appears that this business, that stopped production last year, has
> been sold to a Chinese company and will resume operations soon.
>
> While I don't like that it is Chinese owned, IMHO the Cabinet Master
> clamps were the best of their kind. Perhaps they will once again
> continue to be.
http://www.woodworkersjournal.com/greatstar-industrial-acquires-adjustable-clamp-company/
On 6/6/2017 8:28 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 6:33:30 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>>
>> IMHO the Cabinet Master
>> clamps were the best of their kind.
>
> Any particular reasons? I am only familiar with the original Bessey red square clamps. The Pony Cabinet Master and Bessy red clamps look pretty similar, except color.
>
I own the Revo Bessey, the Jorgenson Cabinet Master and the Jet "K"
style clamps.
The Cabinet Masters simply slide much more easily than the Jet and the
Bessey. The Cabinet Masters are tougher built than the Bessey, the
plastic part. The Bessey clamps have a bunch of broken plastic edges
none of the Cabinet Master or Jet's do. Yes I dropped them but I have
dropped them all. The Cabinet Master and Jets have larger clamping
surfaces. The Cabinet Masters and Jets have an adjustable foot to keep
it level. Good for short work surfaces. IIRC the original Bessey did
not at all. My Revo Bessy clamps have a foot but it is either attached
at the end of the bar or not on the clamp at all. My Cabinet Masters
have large wooden handles, my fingers don't over lap like they do on the
Bessey. The Jet handles have many flat sides and are larger still, a
little too large for me. The jets have one advantage that I like, a
release lever that holds the clamp in place so that it does not simply
slide up and down the bar. BUT the Jets are made out of a harder
plastic and will leave an impression on the wood surface or edge, either
the Bessey or Cabinet Masters do that. I will say that the Bessey and
Cabinet Master have silkier feeling screws than the Jet, they seem to
clamp more smoothly when twisting/tightening the handle. A note about
that if there is no lubrication where the end for the screw meets the
larger washer clamping surface inside the clamp a lot of friction can
develop and prevent a smooth clamping action when tightening. If found
all Jets to be dry to begin with. The Cabinet Master and Bessey seemed
to be properly lubricated initially.
Both the Bessey and Jet clamps can be a bit crotchety at times compared
to the Cabinet Masters.
On 6/7/2017 8:21 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 6/6/2017 8:28 PM, [email protected] wrote:
BUT the Jets are made out of a harder
> plastic and will leave an impression on the wood surface or edge, either
> the Bessey or Cabinet Masters do that.
Replace "either" with neither above.
On 6/6/2017 8:50 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Jun 2017 18:28:40 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 6:33:30 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>>>
>>> IMHO the Cabinet Master
>>> clamps were the best of their kind.
>>
>> Any particular reasons? I am only familiar with the original Bessey red square clamps. The Pony Cabinet Master and Bessy red clamps look pretty similar, except color.
>
> IIRC, the Bessey parallel clamps were more expensive. I had a chance
> to buy some of the Pony's cheap but I wanted all my clamps to be the
> same (I already had Besseys). These days, HD has a pretty good price
> on at least a few of the sizes of the Besseys.
>
I bought my Cabinet Masters for less than $20 each, all 10 of them.
The Jets I paid full price for the first pair and got the remaining 4 as
a kit as a discount. All but 1 of the 7 Bessey clamps were given as a
gift. I won the 7th.
IIRC, the Bessey clamp bars sit lower on the table. If you have a
Bessey on each end of a project and want to add a Cabinet Master or a
Jet in the middle you have to raise the project to insert the
clamp/clamps. Not a big deal if you remember to put the other two
brands near the ends FIRST and decide to add Bessey or the other brands
in between, later.
On Tue, 6 Jun 2017 18:28:40 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 6:33:30 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>>
>> IMHO the Cabinet Master
>> clamps were the best of their kind.
>
>Any particular reasons? I am only familiar with the original Bessey red square clamps. The Pony Cabinet Master and Bessy red clamps look pretty similar, except color.
IIRC, the Bessey parallel clamps were more expensive. I had a chance
to buy some of the Pony's cheap but I wanted all my clamps to be the
same (I already had Besseys). These days, HD has a pretty good price
on at least a few of the sizes of the Besseys.
On Wed, 7 Jun 2017 08:27:04 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>On 6/6/2017 8:50 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Tue, 6 Jun 2017 18:28:40 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 6:33:30 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> IMHO the Cabinet Master
>>>> clamps were the best of their kind.
>>>
>>> Any particular reasons? I am only familiar with the original Bessey red square clamps. The Pony Cabinet Master and Bessy red clamps look pretty similar, except color.
>>
>> IIRC, the Bessey parallel clamps were more expensive. I had a chance
>> to buy some of the Pony's cheap but I wanted all my clamps to be the
>> same (I already had Besseys). These days, HD has a pretty good price
>> on at least a few of the sizes of the Besseys.
>>
>
>
>I bought my Cabinet Masters for less than $20 each, all 10 of them.
>The Jets I paid full price for the first pair and got the remaining 4 as
>a kit as a discount. All but 1 of the 7 Bessey clamps were given as a
>gift. I won the 7th.
Sorry, I confused the Ponys for the Jets. It was the Jets that were
on sale about five years back.
>IIRC, the Bessey clamp bars sit lower on the table. If you have a
>Bessey on each end of a project and want to add a Cabinet Master or a
>Jet in the middle you have to raise the project to insert the
>clamp/clamps. Not a big deal if you remember to put the other two
>brands near the ends FIRST and decide to add Bessey or the other brands
>in between, later.
When I get into gluing, I always have enough problems to worry about.
;-)
On 6/9/2017 12:03 PM, tdacon wrote:
>
> "Leon" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> It appears that this business, that stopped production last year, has
>> been sold to a Chinese company and will resume operations soon.
>
> Well, there goes Easy Wood Tools, which was acquired by the adjustable
> clamp company a year or so ago.
>
>
Easy Wood Tools has not stopped production. This was addressed by the
original guy that started Easy Tools last year IIRC.
"Leon" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>It appears that this business, that stopped production last year, has been
>sold to a Chinese company and will resume operations soon.
Well, there goes Easy Wood Tools, which was acquired by the adjustable clamp
company a year or so ago.