Whenever I rip boards on my table saw the piece between the blade and
the fence is perfectly smooth but the piece on the outside of the blade
is always rough. I check the alignment of my saw blade and the fence
alignment and both are dead on. Does anyone have any idea about what
causes this problem and what I can do to fix it?
Rudy
>The arbor bracket pn 50175 is not machined corrrectly.
The bearing holes and pivot hole are not parrallel<
I agree. Need to check the mechanism for alignment at all settings. The
blade must be exactly parallel with the table slots and at a perfect
right angle to the table top to saw correctly, otherwise the trailing
edge of the blade will make the cut ragged. Sort of visualize pushing a
Skilsaw through a board while cocking the saw right or left. Makes a
really lousy cut.
Bugs
klaatu wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:59:54 GMT, Rudy Fichtenbaum
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Whenever I rip boards on my table saw the piece between the blade and
>>the fence is perfectly smooth but the piece on the outside of the blade
>>is always rough. I check the alignment of my saw blade and the fence
>>alignment and both are dead on. Does anyone have any idea about what
>>causes this problem and what I can do to fix it?
> Rudy, Do you have a General saw? If so that could be the problem.
How the heck could having a General be the problem?
Chris
klaatu wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:21:40 -0600, Chris Friesen
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>klaatu wrote:
>>>Rudy, Do you have a General saw? If so that could be the problem.
>>How the heck could having a General be the problem?
> Chris, I have a General contractor saw 50-185L M1.
Technically you have a General International saw, not a General saw.
GI also makes many other saws, so does General.
Given that there are *many* people that have your saw and don't
experience the same problem, it's likely not a design issue with that
particular saw or that particular manufacturer.
That said, I would certainly consider it a defect in your saw. Have you
talked to GI and described your problem?
Chris
"Rudy Fichtenbaum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Whenever I rip boards on my table saw the piece between the blade and
> the fence is perfectly smooth but the piece on the outside of the blade
> is always rough. I check the alignment of my saw blade and the fence
> alignment and both are dead on. Does anyone have any idea about what
> causes this problem and what I can do to fix it?
>
> Rudy
The offcut side has no other support to keep it steady/aligned and may move
in and out against the blade slightly as you make the cut giving a rough
edge perhaps?
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> "Rudy Fichtenbaum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Whenever I rip boards on my table saw the piece between the blade and
>> the fence is perfectly smooth but the piece on the outside of the blade
>> is always rough. I check the alignment of my saw blade and the fence
>> alignment and both are dead on. Does anyone have any idea about what
>> causes this problem and what I can do to fix it?
>>
>> Rudy
>
> The offcut side has no other support to keep it steady/aligned and may
> move
> in and out against the blade slightly as you make the cut giving a rough
> edge perhaps?
>
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The right answer. If it's not being firmly held, it vibrates in and out of
the tooth pattern.
Of course, part of the problem could be your feed rate and push direction as
well.
"Bugs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >The arbor bracket pn 50175 is not machined corrrectly.
> The bearing holes and pivot hole are not parrallel<
>
> I agree. Need to check the mechanism for alignment at all settings. The
> blade must be exactly parallel with the table slots and at a perfect
> right angle to the table top to saw correctly, otherwise the trailing
> edge of the blade will make the cut ragged. Sort of visualize pushing a
> Skilsaw through a board while cocking the saw right or left. Makes a
> really lousy cut.
Well, minor point, but if the fenced side's smooth, as the OP said, it
isn't anything you guys are discussing. It's the stock, not the blade
under those circumstances.
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>
> "www" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Rudy Fichtenbaum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Whenever I rip boards on my table saw the piece between the blade and
>>> the fence is perfectly smooth but the piece on the outside of the blade
>>> is always rough. I check the alignment of my saw blade and the fence
>>> alignment and both are dead on. Does anyone have any idea about what
>>> causes this problem and what I can do to fix it?
>>>
>>> Rudy
>>
>> The offcut side has no other support to keep it steady/aligned and may
>> move
>> in and out against the blade slightly as you make the cut giving a rough
>> edge perhaps?
>>
>>
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>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Dean Bielanowski
>> Editor,
>> Online Tool Reviews
>> http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com
>
> The right answer. If it's not being firmly held, it vibrates in and out
> of the tooth pattern.
>
> Of course, part of the problem could be your feed rate and push direction
> as well.
A featherboard might help, too.
"Rudy Fichtenbaum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Whenever I rip boards on my table saw the piece between the blade and the
> fence is perfectly smooth but the piece on the outside of the blade is
> always rough. I check the alignment of my saw blade and the fence
> alignment and both are dead on. Does anyone have any idea about what
> causes this problem and what I can do to fix it?
>
> Rudy
Dead on parallel, as in better than .001? Are you using a feather board
"IN FRONT" of the blade? Are you using a Splitter? Does this happen with
other types of wood? Are you using a premium quality blade?
"Rudy Fichtenbaum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Whenever I rip boards on my table saw the piece between the blade and the
> fence is perfectly smooth but the piece on the outside of the blade is
> always rough. I check the alignment of my saw blade and the fence
> alignment and both are dead on. Does anyone have any idea about what
> causes this problem and what I can do to fix it?
>
> Rudy
Blade alignment?? Low quality blade??
Watch this video (i found it useful anyway...)
http://www.ts-aligner.com/tablesaw.htm
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:21:40 -0600, Chris Friesen
<[email protected]> wrote:
>klaatu wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:59:54 GMT, Rudy Fichtenbaum
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Whenever I rip boards on my table saw the piece between the blade and
>>>the fence is perfectly smooth but the piece on the outside of the blade
>>>is always rough. I check the alignment of my saw blade and the fence
>>>alignment and both are dead on. Does anyone have any idea about what
>>>causes this problem and what I can do to fix it?
>
>> Rudy, Do you have a General saw? If so that could be the problem.
>
>How the heck could having a General be the problem?
>
>Chris
Chris, I have a General contractor saw 50-185L M1.
The arbor bracket pn 50175 is not machined corrrectly.
The bearing holes and pivot hole are not parrallel. So the
blade goes out of allignment when raising or lowering.
If the blade is in allignment when set at 1" depth of cut, it will
angle over to left at 3" depth of cut. If Rudy has the same condition
the back of the blade will cut on the back side and give the described
rough cut.
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:59:54 GMT, Rudy Fichtenbaum
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Whenever I rip boards on my table saw the piece between the blade and
>the fence is perfectly smooth but the piece on the outside of the blade
>is always rough. I check the alignment of my saw blade and the fence
>alignment and both are dead on. Does anyone have any idea about what
>causes this problem and what I can do to fix it?
>
>Rudy
Rudy, Do you have a General saw? If so that could be the problem.