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26/06/2010 3:14 PM

door sprung - hanging no mortise hinges

Maybe someone has ideas. I'm using no mortise hinges (not wrap around) on
doors. When I put the first one on the hinge seems like it's "sprung" for
lack ofa better term. The far side of the door protrudes ~3/8" in front of
the frame and doesn't sit flat. Both frame and door sides are 90 degrees to
their faces. Any ideas on why this is happening?
TIA


This topic has 6 replies

MK

Michael Karas

in reply to me on 26/06/2010 3:14 PM

27/06/2010 10:14 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>
> It's http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=247&filter=90437&pn=90437
> but the middle isn't notched. go to more info tab. the hinge I'm using is
> on the right.
>
> Mike O. <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > Can you point us to a link to the type of hinge you are using?
> >
> > Mike O.
> >

Read some of the review comments from the Rockler web site regarding
these hinges. The screws are obviously crap. If you knew that and
purchased some replacement screws maybe the problem is that the heads do
not flush down into the counter sunk hole. Note that above flush screw
heads is a very common problem with this type of hinge.

28) Submitted by John , from Winston Salem, NC on 11/20/2007
I was surprised to discover that these hinges do not maintain square if
installed on anything other than "exact" 90 degree corners/edges. My
project involved doors with small outside radius' so therefore the hinge
(door side) when installed, did not result in a true 90 degree relative
installation. As a result, the doors were "spring loaded" and did not
close, thus the magnetic catches would not hold. I have since ordered
replacements (31313) to hopefully solve this problem.

29) Submitted by Brad, from Austin, TX on 3/2/2008
These hinges are just what I needed for the project. The only problem I
had was that the furnished screws did not seat flush in the countersunk
hinge holes, thus keeping the door(s) from closing totally without
marring the edges. I reamed the countersinks slightly, making them
deeper - that took care of the problem. I am pleased with the results.

31) Submitted by Joe Wlostowski, from Johnson City, NY on 12/31/2007
The use of non-mortise hinges is great. The only complaint I have was
that each hinge was bent and had to be straightened in a vise. I
purchased nine sets in two different orders and all were bent

34) Submitted by Bill Bonner, from Austin, TX on 12/21/2008
Supplied screws either broke into or completely striped the heads due to
the soft metal used. I had to drill out the broken shafts or cut out the
stripped heads and use different hardware in order to use these hindges.
My advise is to throw away the supplied hardware and use harder screws
to start with.

44) Submitted by Pete Schendel, from Helena, MT on 2/25/2010
I used these hinges on an entertainment center with three inset glass
doors. This is my first experience building and installing doors. Two of
the doors would not close completely until I removed the set screw in
the edge of the door. One of the hinges was bent when it arrived and had
to be worked on my anvil to get it flat. One door still does not close
perfectly. May be my construction but I feel the bad hinge may be the
problem. I guess I should have returned the bad hinge. The wrap around
section of the hinge for the door appeared to be less than 90 degrees
which could have caused the problem with the door not closing. Quality
control seemed to be lacking.

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me

in reply to me on 26/06/2010 3:14 PM

26/06/2010 9:38 PM

It's http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=247&filter=90437&pn=90437
but the middle isn't notched. go to more info tab. the hinge I'm using is
on the right.

Mike O. <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Can you point us to a link to the type of hinge you are using?
>
> Mike O.
>

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me

in reply to me on 26/06/2010 3:14 PM

02/07/2010 10:16 PM

Thanks for all the responses. Cox shutdown it's news so I had to find
another provider.
I solved the problem by putting a very thin shim under the outside edge of
the hing on the face frame of the cabinet.
I was also looking around. Lee Valley sells adjustable non mortise hinges
for ~$7 pair vs. the $20 that Rockler wanted.
Would've saved me hours of adjustment. Don't know how you really are
supposed to get these hung correctly the first time without any adjustment
mechanism.

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to me on 26/06/2010 3:14 PM

26/06/2010 12:44 PM

me wrote:
> Maybe someone has ideas. I'm using no mortise hinges (not wrap
> around) on doors. When I put the first one on the hinge seems like
> it's "sprung" for lack ofa better term. The far side of the door
> protrudes ~3/8" in front of the frame and doesn't sit flat. Both
> frame and door sides are 90 degrees to their faces. Any ideas on why
> this is happening?
> TIA

The back of the hinge edge of the door is hitting the stile or frame.

If these doors are of any size, you would do well to loe the no mortise
hinges...it is the mortise that holds up the door.

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MO

Mike O.

in reply to me on 26/06/2010 3:14 PM

26/06/2010 2:58 PM

On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 15:14:54 GMT, me <[email protected]> wrote:

>Maybe someone has ideas. I'm using no mortise hinges (not wrap around) on
>doors. When I put the first one on the hinge seems like it's "sprung" for
>lack ofa better term. The far side of the door protrudes ~3/8" in front of
>the frame and doesn't sit flat. Both frame and door sides are 90 degrees to
>their faces. Any ideas on why this is happening?
>TIA

Can you point us to a link to the type of hinge you are using?

Mike O.

MO

Mike O.

in reply to me on 26/06/2010 3:14 PM

26/06/2010 8:05 PM

On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:38:46 GMT, me <[email protected]> wrote:

>It's http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=247&filter=90437&pn=90437
>but the middle isn't notched. go to more info tab. the hinge I'm using is
>on the right.

Are the screws flush with the face of the hinge? If even one is
hanging out a little (on either the door or the cabinet) it will hit
there before the door is closed.

You might try cutting a notch in a piece of paper (so you can hold on
to it) then stick it through the crack at the hinge and closing the
door on top of the paper. You would expect to just see the little
square smashed out of the paper. You might be able to see if it's
hitting somewhere else.

Mike O.


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