JJ

10/03/2007 5:53 PM

OT - Looking For A Specific Book

I've been trying to find a book and hopefully one of you can point
me to where I can get a copy. I've been googling, used a number of
other searches, checking evry on-line book seller I can come up with,
including Amazon, also eBay. With zero results so far.

The title is: Single Shot Actions - Their Design And Construction,
and written by Frank and Mark de Haas, published around 1986 I believe.

I've pretty much ran out of ideas where to look. So thought I'd
ask here. I'll keep on looking, of course. Any help in this will be
greatly appreciated. I'll put in a good word with the Woodworking Gods
for you too, because there'll be stocks and forarms made out of wood.

I've tracked down book before, including a few with limited
printing, much more limited than this one I believe, with o real problem
- just that often most sellers were wanting way more than I was willing
to pay. But thru perseverance I was able to get copies at reasonable
prices. This one I can't even find any, period.

If you're gonna reply, please snip raher than copying the whole
thing.

This is one time I've willing to have you e-mail me, IF you have an
actual lead. Otherwise, either reply on-line, or not at all. Thanks.



JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool


This topic has 26 replies

Jj

"John"

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 10/03/2007 5:53 PM

11/03/2007 12:55 AM


"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've been trying to find a book and hopefully one of you can point


Could this be what you are looking for?

Single shot rifles and actions
by Frank De Haas

JJ

in reply to "John" on 11/03/2007 12:55 AM

10/03/2007 9:29 PM

Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 12:55am (EST+5) [email protected] (John) doth
queryeth:
Could this be what you are looking for?
Single shot rifles and actions
by Frank De Haas

Nope.



JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool

LD

Lobby Dosser

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 10/03/2007 5:53 PM

10/03/2007 11:29 PM

[email protected] (J T) wrote:

> The title is: Single Shot Actions - Their Design And Construction,
> and written by Frank and Mark de Haas, published around 1986 I believe.

Try this:

<http://www.directtextbook.com/editions/frank-de-haas-single-shot-rifles-
and-actions>

There seems to be a number of different editions and the title looks like
maybe it morphs now and then. I checked the first one on the list and
Amazon has it.

JJ

in reply to Lobby Dosser on 10/03/2007 11:29 PM

10/03/2007 9:05 PM

Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 11:29pm (EST+5) [email protected]
(Lobby=A0Dosser) doth instructeth:.
Try this:
<http://www.directtextbook.com/editions/frank-de-haas-single-shot-rifles-a=
nd-actions>
There seems to be a number of different editions and the title looks
like maybe it morphs now and then. I checked the first one on the list
and Amazon has it.

Every time I try it, I get kicked off-line. Anyway, I'm pretty
sure what you found isn't it, bcause what I'm looking for is exactly
like I posted, no morphing, and no rifles in the title.



JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool

TD

Tim Douglass

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 10/03/2007 5:53 PM

10/03/2007 4:09 PM

On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 17:53:26 -0500, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:

> I've been trying to find a book and hopefully one of you can point
>me to where I can get a copy.

Have you checked at http://www.abebooks.com? I think they claim
something like 13,000 bookstores selling a hundred million books or
something. I've found a lot of oddball stuff through them.

--
"We need to make a sacrifice to the gods, find me a young virgin... oh, and bring something to kill"

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

JJ

in reply to Tim Douglass on 10/03/2007 4:09 PM

10/03/2007 9:28 PM

Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 4:09pm (EST-3) [email protected]
(Tim=A0Douglass) doth query:
Have you checked at http://www.abebooks.com? <snip>

Several days ago.



JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool

KM

"Kerry Montgomery"

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 10/03/2007 5:53 PM

10/03/2007 11:28 PM


"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've been trying to find a book and hopefully one of you can point
> me to where I can get a copy. I've been googling, used a number of
> other searches, checking evry on-line book seller I can come up with,
> including Amazon, also eBay. With zero results so far.
>
> The title is: Single Shot Actions - Their Design And Construction,
> and written by Frank and Mark de Haas, published around 1986 I believe.
>
> I've pretty much ran out of ideas where to look. So thought I'd
> ask here. I'll keep on looking, of course. Any help in this will be
> greatly appreciated. I'll put in a good word with the Woodworking Gods
> for you too, because there'll be stocks and forarms made out of wood.
>
> I've tracked down book before, including a few with limited
> printing, much more limited than this one I believe, with o real problem
> - just that often most sellers were wanting way more than I was willing
> to pay. But thru perseverance I was able to get copies at reasonable
> prices. This one I can't even find any, period.
>
> If you're gonna reply, please snip raher than copying the whole
> thing.
>
> This is one time I've willing to have you e-mail me, IF you have an
> actual lead. Otherwise, either reply on-line, or not at all. Thanks.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
> was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
> - Clodpool
>

Hi JOAT,
Well, the title match isn't exact, but the most of the words match, the
author matches, and the publication date matches:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000GAAONC/ref=sr_1_olp_12/002-7884281-6437669?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1173569125&sr=1-12
or, tinyurl:
http://tinyurl.com/25z6px
Kerry

JJ

in reply to "Kerry Montgomery" on 10/03/2007 11:28 PM

10/03/2007 8:55 PM

Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 11:28pm (EST+5) From: [email protected]
(Kerry=A0Montgomery) doth posteth:
Hi JOAT,
Well, the title match isn't exact, but the most of the words match, the
author matches, and the publication date matches: <snip>

Close only counts in hand grenades and horseshoes. Anyway, that
isn't the one, I've had a copy for years; and you can get a copy for a
lot less if you shop aroud a bit.



JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 10/03/2007 5:53 PM

10/03/2007 10:01 PM

J T wrote:
> I've been trying to find a book and hopefully one of you can
> point me to where I can get a copy. I've been googling, used a
> number of other searches, checking evry on-line book seller I can
> come up with, including Amazon, also eBay. With zero results so far.
>
> The title is: Single Shot Actions - Their Design And
> Construction, and written by Frank and Mark de Haas, published around
> 1986 I believe.

Have you tried contacting Mark de Haas directly? There's a phone number
listed at http://dehaas.com/guns/.

The Library of Congress Online Catalog doesn't have a listing--it has 8
books by Frank de Haas, 1 by Mark de Haas, and 1 with both listed as
coathors, but none of them have the title you indicate, nor to they seem
to have _any_ book by that title. That suggests that it was never
published in the US, at least not commercially--it might have been
distributed privately.

> I've pretty much ran out of ideas where to look. So thought I'd
> ask here. I'll keep on looking, of course. Any help in this will be
> greatly appreciated. I'll put in a good word with the Woodworking
> Gods for you too, because there'll be stocks and forarms made out of
> wood.
>
> I've tracked down book before, including a few with limited
> printing, much more limited than this one I believe, with o real
> problem - just that often most sellers were wanting way more than I
> was willing to pay. But thru perseverance I was able to get copies
> at reasonable prices. This one I can't even find any, period.
>
> If you're gonna reply, please snip raher than copying the whole
> thing.
>
> This is one time I've willing to have you e-mail me, IF you have
> an actual lead. Otherwise, either reply on-line, or not at all.
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning.
> That was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
> - Clodpool

--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

JJ

in reply to "J. Clarke" on 10/03/2007 10:01 PM

10/03/2007 11:13 PM

Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 10:01pm [email protected] (J.=A0Clarke) doth
posteth:
Have you tried contacting Mark de Haas directly? There's a phone number
listed at http://dehaas.com/guns/.
The Library of Congress Online Catalog doesn't have a listing--it has 8
books by Frank de Haas, 1 by Mark de Haas, and 1 with both listed as
coathors, but none of them have the title you indicate, nor to they seem
to have _any_ book by that title. That suggests that it was never
published in the US, at least not commercially--it might have been
distributed privately.

Hah! All that looking and I never found a websie. I'll give that
a shot. Thanks.

In the inside front of the book, Mr. Single-Shot's Book Of Rifle
Plans, by Frank and Mark de Haas, it lists the book, and credits his son
Mark as co-author. I've also seen rereferences to it, with quotes from
it, in various forums, so I'm sure it was in fact published. The Book
Of Plans was published by de Haas Books, so I'd been thinking it'd
probably been published by them also.

I'll try the website, and I'll let you all know the results.
Thanks.

By the way, the dogwoods in town are in full bloom. Mine are in
shadow, so not in any blooms you can see yet. Suppoed to be 70
tomorrow. Damn winter, just keeps handing on. LMAO



JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool

LD

Lobby Dosser

in reply to "J. Clarke" on 10/03/2007 10:01 PM

11/03/2007 8:11 AM

[email protected] (J T) wrote:

> I'll try the website, and I'll let you all know the results.
> Thanks.

Here it is on Amazon - Not Available, of course.

<http://www.amazon.com/Single-shot-actions-Their-design-
construction/dp/B000714EYK/ref=sr_1_22/102-9310230-5988949?ie=UTF8
&s=books&qid=1173600030&sr=1-22>

You saw this, right?


<http://www.directtextbook.com/publisher/vore>

Your book is listed at the above link.

ISBN: B000714EYK

Here's the publisher info:

De Vore & Sons Inc
(316) 267-3211 9020 E 35th St N
Wichita, KS

JJ

in reply to Lobby Dosser on 11/03/2007 8:11 AM

11/03/2007 3:39 PM

Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 8:11am (EDT+4) [email protected]
(Lobby=A0Dosser) doth sayeth:
Here it is on Amazon - Not Available, of course. <snip>

I know. I've been on their waiting list for it for a bit now.



JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "J. Clarke" on 10/03/2007 10:01 PM

11/03/2007 8:32 AM

J T wrote:
> Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 10:01pm [email protected] (J. Clarke) doth
> posteth:
> Have you tried contacting Mark de Haas directly? There's a phone
> number listed at http://dehaas.com/guns/.
> The Library of Congress Online Catalog doesn't have a listing--it has
> 8 books by Frank de Haas, 1 by Mark de Haas, and 1 with both listed as
> coathors, but none of them have the title you indicate, nor to they
> seem to have _any_ book by that title. That suggests that it was never
> published in the US, at least not commercially--it might have been
> distributed privately.
>
> Hah! All that looking and I never found a websie. I'll give
> that a shot. Thanks.
>
> In the inside front of the book, Mr. Single-Shot's Book Of Rifle
> Plans, by Frank and Mark de Haas, it lists the book, and credits his
> son Mark as co-author. I've also seen rereferences to it, with
> quotes from it, in various forums, so I'm sure it was in fact
> published. The Book Of Plans was published by de Haas Books, so I'd
> been thinking it'd probably been published by them also.
>
> I'll try the website, and I'll let you all know the results.
> Thanks.

Here's an outfit that claims to have one (Item #72 on the page), limited
edition #300 of 2000 copies printed, signed by the authors, for 150
bucks. If there were only 2000 printed that might explain why it's hard
to find.

Seems to have been published by a Bible publisher of all things, which
might explain why it managed to not get into the LOC.

> By the way, the dogwoods in town are in full bloom. Mine are in
> shadow, so not in any blooms you can see yet. Suppoed to be 70
> tomorrow. Damn winter, just keeps handing on. LMAO

My dogwood died many years ago and I've never gotten around to replacing
it.

> JOAT
> It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning.
> That was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
> - Clodpool

--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

JJ

in reply to "J. Clarke" on 11/03/2007 8:32 AM

11/03/2007 3:53 PM

Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 8:32am [email protected] (J.=A0Clarke) doth
sayeth:
Here's an outfit that claims to have one (Item #72 on the page), limited
edition #300 of 2000 copies printed, signed by the authors, for 150
bucks. If there were only 2000 printed that might explain why it's hard
to find.
Seems to have been published by a Bible publisher of all things, which
might explain why it managed to not get into the LOC.
My dogwood died many years ago and I've never gotten around to replacing
it.

What's the link? Can't say I'd pay anywhere near that much for
one, but would like to check it out at least.

I once worked with a guy who had worked for a publishing company.
They frequently printed religious material - and also Playboy magazine. =


They can replace dogwoods now?



JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool

Hn

Han

in reply to "J. Clarke" on 11/03/2007 8:32 AM

11/03/2007 9:05 PM

[email protected] (J T) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I once worked with a guy who had worked for a publishing company.
> They frequently printed religious material - and also Playboy
> magazine.

So?

> They can replace dogwoods now?

Find a seedling. That's how you get the best, you know, hybrid vigor.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "J. Clarke" on 11/03/2007 8:32 AM

11/03/2007 6:01 PM

J T wrote:
> Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 8:32am [email protected] (J. Clarke) doth
> sayeth:
> Here's an outfit that claims to have one (Item #72 on the page),
> limited edition #300 of 2000 copies printed, signed by the authors,
> for 150 bucks. If there were only 2000 printed that might explain why
> it's hard to find.
> Seems to have been published by a Bible publisher of all things, which
> might explain why it managed to not get into the LOC.
> My dogwood died many years ago and I've never gotten around to
> replacing it.
>
> What's the link? Can't say I'd pay anywhere near that much for
> one, but would like to check it out at least.

Damn me. I could have sworn I put in the link.
http://www.rwmilitarybooks.com/home/list60chris.html

> I once worked with a guy who had worked for a publishing company.
> They frequently printed religious material - and also Playboy
> magazine.
>
> They can replace dogwoods now?

Well, one can plant a new tree where the old one stood.

--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

JJ

in reply to "J. Clarke" on 11/03/2007 6:01 PM

11/03/2007 8:13 PM

Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 6:01pm [email protected] (J.=A0Clarke) doth
sayeth:
Damn me. I could have sworn I put in the link.
http://www.rwmilitarybooks.com/home/list60chris.html
Well, one can plant a new tree where the old one stood.

Thanks. Damn. Wonder if that was the entire printing? I sure h
op not. I'll pass on buying that copy, unless you guys want to chip in
to help me out? Thought not. No prob. I'll save the link, for
reference, but don't think I'll buy much from that seller - I've got a
few of those titles, and I didn't pay that much. They list some I'll be
buying soon, but I can save about $8+ over their prices.

Oh, you were talking about trees. Sorry. LOL



JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool

TD

Tim Douglass

in reply to "J. Clarke" on 11/03/2007 6:01 PM

12/03/2007 10:47 AM

On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:13:45 -0400, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:

> Thanks. Damn. Wonder if that was the entire printing? I sure h
>op not. I'll pass on buying that copy, unless you guys want to chip in
>to help me out? Thought not. No prob.

I'll mail you a buck to help out, just sent 3$ for postage and
handling ... ;-)

--
"We need to make a sacrifice to the gods, find me a young virgin... oh, and bring something to kill"

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

JJ

in reply to Tim Douglass on 12/03/2007 10:47 AM

12/03/2007 6:08 PM

Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 10:47am (EDT-3) [email protected]
(Tim=A0Douglass) doth sayeth:
I'll mail you a buck to help out, just sent 3$ for postage and handling
.. ;-)

Oh yeah, sure, right. And postage being 37 cents it'd get returned
to you because of insufficient postage. Thank you. No thank you.

As a wise Indian guru once said, "With friends like you I don't
need enemas.".



JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool

Mm

Markem

in reply to Tim Douglass on 12/03/2007 10:47 AM

12/03/2007 5:21 PM

On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:08:13 -0400, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:

>Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 10:47am (EDT-3) [email protected]
>(Tim Douglass) doth sayeth:
>I'll mail you a buck to help out, just sent 3$ for postage and handling
>.. ;-)
>
> Oh yeah, sure, right. And postage being 37 cents it'd get returned
>to you because of insufficient postage. Thank you. No thank you.

JOAT I believe it is 39 cents now for the first ounce.....

Mark
(sixoneeight) = 618

JJ

in reply to Markem on 12/03/2007 5:21 PM

12/03/2007 11:50 PM

Mon, Mar 12, 2007, 5:21pm (EDT-1) [email protected] (Markem) doth
sayeth:
JOAT I believe it is 39 cents now for the first ounce.....

It's a conspiricy.



JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool

JJ

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 12/03/2007 11:50 PM

16/03/2007 1:50 AM

I've got a couple of feelers out for this book, but about given up.
Instead I think I'll buy a couple of other books that I don't have.

Ah, that reminds me. Had to make the trek to Raleigh today to
visit an eyeball doctor. On the way back stopped in at my favorite used
bookstore. Loads of books that'd answer a lot of questions some of you
guys have been asking. Books on finishing, refinishing, weekend
projects, tools, and what all. I didn't need any of that ilk, but did
pick up a neat book on making wooden decoys. I suppose you could call
it a pukey duck instruction book. Some of you guys really need to visit
a few used bookstores. The books whee I go usually range somewhere from
about $1 to about $7 a book. Well worth it in most cases.



JOAT
Custom philosophizing done. No job too small; must be indoor work, with
no heavy lifting.

LD

Lobby Dosser

in reply to "J. Clarke" on 10/03/2007 10:01 PM

11/03/2007 8:14 AM

[email protected] (J T) wrote:

> Hah! All that looking and I never found a websie. I'll give that
> a shot. Thanks.
>

Oh yeah, and FWIW here's their website:

<http://www.devoreandsons.com/>

JJ

in reply to Lobby Dosser on 11/03/2007 8:14 AM

11/03/2007 3:45 PM

Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 8:14am (EDT+4) [email protected]
(Lobby=A0Dosser) doth posteth:
Oh yeah, and FWIW here's their website:
<http://www.devoreandsons.com/

I dont know who's site that is, but it's not the DeHaas website.
All that link shows is a page with five pictures you can click to
enlarge. ??? What am I missing?



JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool

LD

Lobby Dosser

in reply to Lobby Dosser on 11/03/2007 8:14 AM

11/03/2007 10:18 PM

[email protected] (J T) wrote:

> Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 8:14am (EDT+4) [email protected]
> (Lobby Dosser) doth posteth:
> Oh yeah, and FWIW here's their website:
> <http://www.devoreandsons.com/
>
> I dont know who's site that is, but it's not the DeHaas website.
> All that link shows is a page with five pictures you can click to
> enlarge. ??? What am I missing?

Nothing, which is why I said 'FWIW'. Though they Are the publisher of the
book you are looking for and you now have an address and phone number.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning.
> That was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
> - Clodpool
>
>

JJ

in reply to Lobby Dosser on 11/03/2007 10:18 PM

11/03/2007 8:17 PM

Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 10:18pm (EDT+4) [email protected]
(Lobby=A0Dosser) doth enlighten me:
Nothing, which is why I said 'FWIW'. Though they Are the publisher of
the book you are looking for and you now have an address and phone
number.

Ah, then I "was" missing something. I'll give it a shot. Thanks.



JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool


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