On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:28:28 -0500, basilisk <[email protected]>
>> I would consider getting it, but this "pdf" link you've supplied
>> appears to require one to download an .exe download manager. Why is a
>> download manger required for a .pdf file?
>>
>> Under those conditions, I'm not interested.
>
>That's only for the high speed paid download, just click the
>timer start and wait a few seconds it will download.
I waited the requisite 8 or so seconds and the download did NOT start.
After that, I did click on the download button and it wanted to
download an .exe file.
Sorry, but that's when I say "NO"!
On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:09:40 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 10/13/2012 9:22 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:09:52 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/13/2012 5:42 PM, Dave wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:33:30 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> I clicked a button, it asked me to wait 30 seconds to start, then it
>>>>> downloaded a pdf file to my "downloaded files" temporary folder and
>>>>> opened it with the Adobe reader. I don't recall whether I was using the
>>>>> Internet Explorer browser or SeaMonkey (a relative of Thunderbird) a the
>>>>> time.
>>>>
>>>> Just has a look at it a second time. Waited the requisite 12 seconds
>>>> and the download did not start. Clicked on the start download button
>>>> after that it still wanted to download ilivid.exe.
>>
>> Huh? My timer was at 30 seconds on both of the files, both PDFs.
>>
>>
>>>> Maybe it's me, or IE9 that I have or something else. Sorry, but three
>>>> tries for me is enough.
>>>
>>> Did the same for me with Chrome, downloaded an exe ... Like you, I will
>>> not/never/ever click on executable code unless I'm 1000% percent certain
>>> of its origin, and then maybe not.
>>>
>>> I might try it later tonight on the iPad and Safari just to see what
>>> happens.
>>
>> Firefox here. No EXE to be found.
>
>Used IE9 on another laptop ... no exe, no problems.
>
>Amazing ... IE9 actually does what you want it to do; Chrome does what
>Google wants you to do; FireFox is so bloated and confused with constant
>updates that it can't make up it's mind; and Safari is still connected
>to Steve Jobs with an invisible Karma cable.
Spot-on all the way down, sir. <shakes head in horror>
I was perfectly happy with Netscape Navigator 4. Bookmarking systems
make or break a browser, and -all- are broken nowadays.
SUCKS, it does.
--
Experience is a hard teacher because she gives
the test first, the lesson afterwards.
-- Vernon Sanders Law
On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:26:13 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>> That's only for the high speed paid download, just click the
>> timer start and wait a few seconds it will download.
>
>Yep.
NO!
On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:09:52 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 10/13/2012 5:42 PM, Dave wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:33:30 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I clicked a button, it asked me to wait 30 seconds to start, then it
>>> downloaded a pdf file to my "downloaded files" temporary folder and
>>> opened it with the Adobe reader. I don't recall whether I was using the
>>> Internet Explorer browser or SeaMonkey (a relative of Thunderbird) a the
>>> time.
>>
>> Just has a look at it a second time. Waited the requisite 12 seconds
>> and the download did not start. Clicked on the start download button
>> after that it still wanted to download ilivid.exe.
Huh? My timer was at 30 seconds on both of the files, both PDFs.
>> Maybe it's me, or IE9 that I have or something else. Sorry, but three
>> tries for me is enough.
>
>Did the same for me with Chrome, downloaded an exe ... Like you, I will
>not/never/ever click on executable code unless I'm 1000% percent certain
>of its origin, and then maybe not.
>
>I might try it later tonight on the iPad and Safari just to see what
>happens.
Firefox here. No EXE to be found.
--
Experience is a hard teacher because she gives
the test first, the lesson afterwards.
-- Vernon Sanders Law
Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>I checked this out from the library, and have just started it. It's
>mostly a book of pictures. In fact, it has 3 volumes; I just checked out
>the first one. I can't see how any woodworker wouldn't enjoy it. It's
>not difficult to learn more about the book, if one is curious.
>
>Bill
I agree 100%, Bill! So much so I've decided to provide the group all 3
volumes, FOR FREE! Think of it as an early Christmas present. :o)
Volumes 1 and 2:
http://uploading.com/files/cd5e82b1/NuttingWallaceFurnitureTreasury.V1%262.pdf
Furniture Treasury (Mostly Of American Origin), two
volumes in one, unabridged. All Periods of American
Furniture with Some Foreign Examples in America Also
American Hardware and Household Utensils (Five Thousand
Illustrations with Descriptions on the Same Page)
Volume 3:
http://uploading.com/files/976db3mf/NuttingWallaceFurnitureTreasury.V3.pdf/
This beautiful book has 548 pages that are filled with
1000 illustrations, including sketches with dimensions,
of various period furniture and includes many
comparisons of details such as different furniture
feet, various clock hands, different types of spindles,
etc. It has sections on different types of furniture,
collecting, labels, reproductions, beds, finishes,
prices, manufacture, woods, and much more. It also has
a section on clockmakers, a furniture index, and an
appendix for crude homemade furniture.
Enjoy!
On Sunday, October 14, 2012 8:18:24 AM UTC-5, Swingman wrote:
> On 10/14/2012 7:56 AM, [email protected] wrote: > You can buy all editio=
ns. Amazon has several listing for used and new books. You see some of the =
prices on those puppies? Paper gold. ;) -- www.eWoodShop.com Last update: 4=
/15/2010 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) http://gplus.to/eWoodShop
Yeah! Some are pretty steep. I just bought the set for $32. Vols. 1&2 fr=
om Tx and Vol. 3 from Miss.
The book I had mentioned earlier, and found online, is "The Early Furniture=
French Canada", by Jean Palardy. I had checked out this book from our loc=
al library many times, as a reference to/for some of my past projects. It =
is no longer at our library... (somemone stole it?). I liked this book. I=
may buy this one, too... haven't decided, yet. =20
This book is hefty with lots of pictures, also, but not many detail drawing=
s of designs or dimensions, etc. A good eye can figure out many of those a=
spects. Early furniture in Canada parallels that of here in the states and=
lots of it is bulk/hefty built. A little tweaking, to reduce bulk, is eas=
y, yet maintain the rustic, old time appearance/style. I like this style, =
as long as I don't go overboard. Too many pieces can make your home look l=
ike a camp, but a few outdoor/patio uses looks nice. *Similarly, that larg=
e log bench I showed at PlantFest... someone later called to buy it, for th=
eir flower garden/patio area.
I don't recall seeing a sofa table in it, though. Maybe something can be i=
mprovised!!
Sonny
On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:33:30 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>I clicked a button, it asked me to wait 30 seconds to start, then it
>downloaded a pdf file to my "downloaded files" temporary folder and
>opened it with the Adobe reader. I don't recall whether I was using the
>Internet Explorer browser or SeaMonkey (a relative of Thunderbird) a the
>time.
Just has a look at it a second time. Waited the requisite 12 seconds
and the download did not start. Clicked on the start download button
after that it still wanted to download ilivid.exe.
Maybe it's me, or IE9 that I have or something else. Sorry, but three
tries for me is enough.
On Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:14:59 AM UTC-5, Upscale wrote:
> I would consider getting it, but this "pdf" link you've supplied appears =
to require one to download an .exe download manager. Why is a download mang=
er required for a .pdf file? Under those conditions, I'm not interested.
Same here. About 2 months ago, a download manager was required to open a s=
ewing machine parts list I wanted. That manager "deleted" everything on my=
computer.
I looked online for a book I use to check out from the library, about Frenc=
h Canadian furniture (1600s -1800s), but can't recall the title. Somehow, =
it is no longer at our library. I did find this one, which doesn't require=
a download manager for the PDF file. This appears to be a decent referenc=
e book of early American furniture. The pics aren't that great, visually. =
The PDF took a few minutes to download: http://archive.org/details/furnitur=
eofolden00mors
Sonny
Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>I checked this out from the library, and have just started it. It's
>mostly a book of pictures. In fact, it has 3 volumes; I just checked out
>the first one. I can't see how any woodworker wouldn't enjoy it. It's
>not difficult to learn more about the book, if one is curious.
>
>Bill
I agree 100%, Bill! So much so I've decided to provide the group all 3
volumes, FOR FREE! Think of it as an early Christmas present. :o)
Oh yea, it's actually 'Furniture Treasury' (not treasure).
Volumes 1 and 2:
http://uploading.com/files/cd5e82b1/NuttingWallaceFurnitureTreasury.V1%262.pdf
Furniture Treasury (Mostly Of American Origin), two
volumes in one, unabridged. All Periods of American
Furniture with Some Foreign Examples in America Also
American Hardware and Household Utensils (Five Thousand
Illustrations with Descriptions on the Same Page)
Volume 3:
http://uploading.com/files/976db3mf/NuttingWallaceFurnitureTreasury.V3.pdf/
This beautiful book has 548 pages that are filled with
1000 illustrations, including sketches with dimensions,
of various period furniture and includes many
comparisons of details such as different furniture
feet, various clock hands, different types of spindles,
etc. It has sections on different types of furniture,
collecting, labels, reproductions, beds, finishes,
prices, manufacture, woods, and much more. It also has
a section on clockmakers, a furniture index, and an
appendix for crude homemade furniture.
Enjoy!
On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:09:52 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>Did the same for me with Chrome, downloaded an exe ... Like you, I will
>not/never/ever click on executable code unless I'm 1000% percent certain
>of its origin, and then maybe not.
Actually, I had a closer look. There's a 30 second countdown time on
the left side. After that, it produces a .pdf download. Even though I
have a high speed connection, that .pdf download appeared to be some
eight minutes long. I'll try it again later this evening.
On 10/14/2012 7:56 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> You can buy all editions. Amazon has several listing for used and new books.
You see some of the prices on those puppies? Paper gold. ;)
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On 10/13/2012 5:42 PM, Dave wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:33:30 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I clicked a button, it asked me to wait 30 seconds to start, then it
>> downloaded a pdf file to my "downloaded files" temporary folder and
>> opened it with the Adobe reader. I don't recall whether I was using the
>> Internet Explorer browser or SeaMonkey (a relative of Thunderbird) a the
>> time.
>
> Just has a look at it a second time. Waited the requisite 12 seconds
> and the download did not start. Clicked on the start download button
> after that it still wanted to download ilivid.exe.
>
> Maybe it's me, or IE9 that I have or something else. Sorry, but three
> tries for me is enough.
Did the same for me with Chrome, downloaded an exe ... Like you, I will
not/never/ever click on executable code unless I'm 1000% percent certain
of its origin, and then maybe not.
I might try it later tonight on the iPad and Safari just to see what
happens.
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On 10/14/2012 9:26 AM, cedarsonny wrote:
> I don't recall seeing a sofa table in it, though. Maybe something can be improvised!!
Need is no longer urgent ... somehow one magically appeared in my family
room. ;)
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On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 04:47:40 +0200, "Lobby Dosser"
>I agree 100%, Bill! So much so I've decided to provide the group all 3
>volumes, FOR FREE! Think of it as an early Christmas present. :o)
I would consider getting it, but this "pdf" link you've supplied
appears to require one to download an .exe download manager. Why is a
download manger required for a .pdf file?
Under those conditions, I'm not interested.
On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:31:46 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> I was perfectly happy with Netscape Navigator 4. Bookmarking systems
>> make or break a browser, and -all- are broken nowadays.
>
>
>All browsers, or all bookmarking systems? I don't understand.
Both. All browsers today have broken/limited/awkward bookmarking
systems.
--
Experience is a hard teacher because she gives
the test first, the lesson afterwards.
-- Vernon Sanders Law
On 10/12/2012 12:58 PM, Bill wrote:
>
> I checked this out from the library, and have just started it. It's
> mostly a book of pictures. In fact, it has 3 volumes; I just checked out
> the first one. I can't see how any woodworker wouldn't enjoy it. It's
> not difficult to learn more about the book, if one is curious.
>
> Bill
Oops, the title is Furniture *Treasury*!
Maybe this book is one of the places the people who write for FWW get
some of their ideas. Of course, there are quite a few books--and I only
recently started systematically investigating the history of furniture.
I don't find looking at art to be hard work.
Bill
Bill wrote:
> On 10/12/2012 12:58 PM, Bill wrote:
>>
>> I checked this out from the library, and have just started it. It's
>> mostly a book of pictures. In fact, it has 3 volumes; I just checked out
>> the first one. I can't see how any woodworker wouldn't enjoy it. It's
>> not difficult to learn more about the book, if one is curious.
>>
>> Bill
Please regard this as an invitation to list your favorite "old
furniture" book (s), along with your brief review! : )
Stuff from the 1960's doesn't count--but I could get you a deal on some
end tables and lamps from that "period" if you are interested.
Cheers,
Bill
Lobby Dosser wrote:
> Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I checked this out from the library, and have just started it. It's
>> mostly a book of pictures. In fact, it has 3 volumes; I just checked out
>> the first one. I can't see how any woodworker wouldn't enjoy it. It's
>> not difficult to learn more about the book, if one is curious.
>>
>> Bill
>
> I agree 100%, Bill! So much so I've decided to provide the group all 3
> volumes, FOR FREE! Think of it as an early Christmas present. :o)
Thank you Lobby! The physical copies must weigh close to 20 pounds.
Hope things are going well for you!
Cheers from IN,
Bill
>
> Oh yea, it's actually 'Furniture Treasury' (not treasure).
>
>
> Volumes 1 and 2:
> http://uploading.com/files/cd5e82b1/NuttingWallaceFurnitureTreasury.V1%262.pdf
>
> Furniture Treasury (Mostly Of American Origin), two
> volumes in one, unabridged. All Periods of American
> Furniture with Some Foreign Examples in America Also
> American Hardware and Household Utensils (Five Thousand
> Illustrations with Descriptions on the Same Page)
>
>
> Volume 3:
> http://uploading.com/files/976db3mf/NuttingWallaceFurnitureTreasury.V3.pdf/
>
> This beautiful book has 548 pages that are filled with
> 1000 illustrations, including sketches with dimensions,
> of various period furniture and includes many
> comparisons of details such as different furniture
> feet, various clock hands, different types of spindles,
> etc. It has sections on different types of furniture,
> collecting, labels, reproductions, beds, finishes,
> prices, manufacture, woods, and much more. It also has
> a section on clockmakers, a furniture index, and an
> appendix for crude homemade furniture.
>
> Enjoy!
>
basilisk wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 07:14:48 -0400, Dave wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 04:47:40 +0200, "Lobby Dosser"
>>> I agree 100%, Bill! So much so I've decided to provide the group all 3
>>> volumes, FOR FREE! Think of it as an early Christmas present. :o)
>>
>> I would consider getting it, but this "pdf" link you've supplied
>> appears to require one to download an .exe download manager. Why is a
>> download manger required for a .pdf file?
>>
>> Under those conditions, I'm not interested.
>
> That's only for the high speed paid download, just click the
> timer start and wait a few seconds it will download.
Yep.
On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 07:26:05 -0700 (PDT), cedarsonny
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sunday, October 14, 2012 8:18:24 AM UTC-5, Swingman wrote:
>> On 10/14/2012 7:56 AM, [email protected] wrote: > You can buy all editions. Amazon has several listing for used and new books. You see some of the prices on those puppies? Paper gold. ;)
Yeah, anywhere from $5 to 0.3 Festools each!
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>
>Yeah! Some are pretty steep. I just bought the set for $32. Vols. 1&2 from Tx and Vol. 3 from Miss.
>
>The book I had mentioned earlier, and found online, is "The Early Furniture French Canada", by Jean Palardy. I had checked out this book from our local library many times, as a reference to/for some of my past projects. It is no longer at our library... (somemone stole it?). I liked this book. I may buy this one, too... haven't decided, yet.
>
>This book is hefty with lots of pictures, also, but not many detail drawings of designs or dimensions, etc. A good eye can figure out many of those aspects. Early furniture in Canada parallels that of here in the states and lots of it is bulk/hefty built. A little tweaking, to reduce bulk, is easy, yet maintain the rustic, old time appearance/style. I like this style, as long as I don't go overboard. Too many pieces can make your home look like a camp, but a few outdoor/patio uses looks nice. *Similarly, that large log bench I showed at PlantFest... someone later called to buy it, for their flower garden/patio area.
>
>I don't recall seeing a sofa table in it, though. Maybe something can be improvised!!
Yessir. Ya take a stump and...
--
Experience is a hard teacher because she gives
the test first, the lesson afterwards.
-- Vernon Sanders Law
Dave wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:26:13 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> That's only for the high speed paid download, just click the
>>> timer start and wait a few seconds it will download.
>>
>> Yep.
>
> NO!
>
I clicked a button, it asked me to wait 30 seconds to start, then it
downloaded a pdf file to my "downloaded files" temporary folder and
opened it with the Adobe reader. I don't recall whether I was using the
Internet Explorer browser or SeaMonkey (a relative of Thunderbird) a the
time.
Dave wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:28:28 -0500, basilisk <[email protected]>
>>> I would consider getting it, but this "pdf" link you've supplied
>>> appears to require one to download an .exe download manager. Why is a
>>> download manger required for a .pdf file?
>>>
>>> Under those conditions, I'm not interested.
>>
>> That's only for the high speed paid download, just click the
>> timer start and wait a few seconds it will download.
>
> I waited the requisite 8 or so seconds and the download did NOT start.
> After that, I did click on the download button and it wanted to
> download an .exe file.
>
> Sorry, but that's when I say "NO"!
>
I was using the SeaMonkey browser (a relative of Thunderbird). When I
tried again using Internet Exlorer it seemed to work a little
differently. I didn't pursue it further.
Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:09:52 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 10/13/2012 5:42 PM, Dave wrote:
>>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:33:30 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I clicked a button, it asked me to wait 30 seconds to start, then it
>>>> downloaded a pdf file to my "downloaded files" temporary folder and
>>>> opened it with the Adobe reader. I don't recall whether I was using the
>>>> Internet Explorer browser or SeaMonkey (a relative of Thunderbird) a the
>>>> time.
>>>
>>> Just has a look at it a second time. Waited the requisite 12 seconds
>>> and the download did not start. Clicked on the start download button
>>> after that it still wanted to download ilivid.exe.
>
> Huh? My timer was at 30 seconds on both of the files, both PDFs.
>
>
>>> Maybe it's me, or IE9 that I have or something else. Sorry, but three
>>> tries for me is enough.
>>
>> Did the same for me with Chrome, downloaded an exe ... Like you, I will
>> not/never/ever click on executable code unless I'm 1000% percent certain
>> of its origin, and then maybe not.
>>
>> I might try it later tonight on the iPad and Safari just to see what
>> happens.
>
> Firefox here. No EXE to be found.
Yes, SeaMonkey (that I am using) is related to Firefox. No exe. I am the
careful type too, just like everyone else who is tip-toeing around this.
>
> --
> Experience is a hard teacher because she gives
> the test first, the lesson afterwards.
> -- Vernon Sanders Law
>
On 10/13/2012 9:22 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:09:52 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 10/13/2012 5:42 PM, Dave wrote:
>>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:33:30 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I clicked a button, it asked me to wait 30 seconds to start, then it
>>>> downloaded a pdf file to my "downloaded files" temporary folder and
>>>> opened it with the Adobe reader. I don't recall whether I was using the
>>>> Internet Explorer browser or SeaMonkey (a relative of Thunderbird) a the
>>>> time.
>>>
>>> Just has a look at it a second time. Waited the requisite 12 seconds
>>> and the download did not start. Clicked on the start download button
>>> after that it still wanted to download ilivid.exe.
>
> Huh? My timer was at 30 seconds on both of the files, both PDFs.
>
>
>>> Maybe it's me, or IE9 that I have or something else. Sorry, but three
>>> tries for me is enough.
>>
>> Did the same for me with Chrome, downloaded an exe ... Like you, I will
>> not/never/ever click on executable code unless I'm 1000% percent certain
>> of its origin, and then maybe not.
>>
>> I might try it later tonight on the iPad and Safari just to see what
>> happens.
>
> Firefox here. No EXE to be found.
Used IE9 on another laptop ... no exe, no problems.
Amazing ... IE9 actually does what you want it to do; Chrome does what
Google wants you to do; FireFox is so bloated and confused with constant
updates that it can't make up it's mind; and Safari is still connected
to Steve Jobs with an invisible Karma cable.
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On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 07:14:48 -0400, Dave wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 04:47:40 +0200, "Lobby Dosser"
>>I agree 100%, Bill! So much so I've decided to provide the group all 3
>>volumes, FOR FREE! Think of it as an early Christmas present. :o)
>
> I would consider getting it, but this "pdf" link you've supplied
> appears to require one to download an .exe download manager. Why is a
> download manger required for a .pdf file?
>
> Under those conditions, I'm not interested.
That's only for the high speed paid download, just click the
timer start and wait a few seconds it will download.
basilisk
On 10/13/2012 6:23 PM, Dave wrote:
> ctually, I had a closer look. There's a 30 second countdown time on
> the left side. After that, it produces a .pdf download. Even though I
> have a high speed connection, that .pdf download appeared to be some
> eight minutes long. I'll try it again later this evening.
Saw that, but still got an exe, after the countdown, on this Chrome
installation.
On Safari/iPad, besides the popups (some women's center??), you can see
several different background gradients of various shapes that, if
accidentally touched, start a download entirely different than the one
for which you visited the site ... apparently purposely designed with
traps and pitfalls for the unwary?
Basically, the download on the iPad was continually redirected to
something besides the book and never completed ... not worth the effort.
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