The space shuttle, Endeavor, all 65 tons, 78 ft wing span, and some
120 ft long, is on the move.
This time down the streets of Los Angeles from LAX to her final
resting
place, about 12 miles away.
Traveling at no more than 2 miles/hour, it is going to take awhile.
Quite a logistics accomplishment, considering the clearances are down
to about 12 inches in some places.
It's quite a sight in real time.
Lew
On 10/13/2012 9:39 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 14:59:37 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/13/2012 1:15 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 08:04:58 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/12/2012 11:43 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 23:26:50 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/12/2012 4:52 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>>>>> The space shuttle, Endeavor, all 65 tons, 78 ft wing span, and some
>>>>>>> 120 ft long, is on the move.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This time down the streets of Los Angeles from LAX to her final
>>>>>>> resting
>>>>>>> place, about 12 miles away.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Traveling at no more than 2 miles/hour, it is going to take awhile.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quite a logistics accomplishment, considering the clearances are down
>>>>>>> to about 12 inches in some places.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's quite a sight in real time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And a Texas built truck will be pulling it to its end.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really, a Tundra? (I'll bet it could...on the flat.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/shuttle-passes-obstacle-heads-toward-la-museum-075351657--finance.html
>>>
>>> Toyota couldn't ask for better advertising than that, could they?
>>> <vbg>
>>>
>>> KCAL Ch9 in HelL.A. has some real babe announcers.
>>>
>>
>> We have a pretty nice looking anchor at CH2 in Houston. But she traded
>> brains for looks. http://dominiquesachse.tv/
>
> Hot, for an older woman. <g> Many good looking women fit that
> trade-in mold.
I think she was born in the 70's, I recall when she started with CH2 as
the fumbling stumbling new kid back in the mid 90's. And I recall her
still infamous quote, "The airplane skidded into a crash."
On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 22:17:43 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 10/14/2012 7:56 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>> True. And poor Angelina has no nipples! Flat ends on those babies...
>>>
>>> She has not seen me! :~)
>>
>> That's why they're not poop-inners yet.
>
>Poop or pop? ;~)
Our family has always referred to belly buttons as poop-outers and
poop-inners. I used poetic license there.
--
Experience is a hard teacher because she gives
the test first, the lesson afterwards.
-- Vernon Sanders Law
On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 08:04:58 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 10/12/2012 11:43 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 23:26:50 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/12/2012 4:52 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>> The space shuttle, Endeavor, all 65 tons, 78 ft wing span, and some
>>>> 120 ft long, is on the move.
>>>>
>>>> This time down the streets of Los Angeles from LAX to her final
>>>> resting
>>>> place, about 12 miles away.
>>>>
>>>> Traveling at no more than 2 miles/hour, it is going to take awhile.
>>>>
>>>> Quite a logistics accomplishment, considering the clearances are down
>>>> to about 12 inches in some places.
>>>>
>>>> It's quite a sight in real time.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And a Texas built truck will be pulling it to its end.
>>
>> Really, a Tundra? (I'll bet it could...on the flat.
>>
>
>http://news.yahoo.com/shuttle-passes-obstacle-heads-toward-la-museum-075351657--finance.html
Toyota couldn't ask for better advertising than that, could they?
<vbg>
KCAL Ch9 in HelL.A. has some real babe announcers.
--
Experience is a hard teacher because she gives
the test first, the lesson afterwards.
-- Vernon Sanders Law
On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:47:52 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 10/14/2012 3:42 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 13:55:09 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/14/2012 11:43 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:10:24 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/14/2012 2:33 AM, Bob Martin wrote:
>>>>>> in 1540119 20121014 042620 Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think she was born in the 70's, I recall when she started with CH2 as
>>>>>>> the fumbling stumbling new kid back in the mid 90's. And I recall her
>>>>>>> still infamous quote, "The airplane skidded into a crash."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's wrong with that? Surely you can skid without crashing?
>>>>>>
>>>>> There was no crash to slid into. She used "crash" as an object rather
>>>>> than an action.
>>>>
>>>> She DE-gerunded it? How crass!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Don't get me started on "over turned vehicle". Is over turning the same
>>>>> thing as over steering??? Your turn a vehicle, can you under turn a
>>>>> vehicle?
>>>>
>>>> No, you steer a vehicle, and have understeer and oversteer.
>>>> You overturn (aka: FLIP) Beemers, Exploders, and other SUVs.
>>>
>>>
>>> So you would be clueless if I mentioned that there was a wreck where a
>>> vehicle turned over?
>>
>> The engine turns over each times it is started, sir. Learn your
>> terminology, will ya? ;)
>>
>>
>>> Over turned... over is used ad an adverb. Turned over, over is the
>>> location. I am not buying it.
>>
>> I agree. "Went tits-up." is much more definitive, but just _try_ to
>> get a nun to teach that to her class. I dare you.
>
>;~) What it all boils down to is, like Swingman has stated about the
>looks, the news people learn a new way to describe an event and they all
>want to jump on board.
>
>Not too long ago all of the weather guys mentioned heat indexes. More
>recently the new word is heat "in-dee-cee's. Both are right but why change?
"In-di-cees", and it preceded the previously incorrect "indexes" as
the normal plural form of index. Mouse, mice, etc.
>How about the word utilization. When will the word utilize ever not be
>enough? Why add tion?
>
>And then my new all time favorite.........."FUNCTIONALITY". Why add
>"ity"? I don't recall ever hearing that word prior to 5 years ago.
On of mine is "liasing". How they scraped that out of the noun
"liason" is beyond me, as are most things the buzzword bozos do.
They're yet another reason I gave up teevee.
--
Experience is a hard teacher because she gives
the test first, the lesson afterwards.
-- Vernon Sanders Law
in 1540012 20121012 225244 "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> The space shuttle, Endeavor, all 65 tons, 78 ft wing span, and some
> 120 ft long, is on the move.
>
> This time down the streets of Los Angeles from LAX to her final
> resting
> place, about 12 miles away.
>
> Traveling at no more than 2 miles/hour, it is going to take awhile.
>
> Quite a logistics accomplishment, considering the clearances are down
> to about 12 inches in some places.
>
> It's quite a sight in real time.
I looked at some of the pictures on-line of the move - very impressive
operation! I can only imagine how impressive it is to see in person.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Dave wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:05:20 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> We have a pretty nice looking anchor at CH2 in Houston. But she
>>> traded brains for looks. http://dominiquesachse.tv/
>>
>> Shoot - she don't need no brains...
>
> And sometimes, you just don't want them to have any brains.
Amen!
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:11:49 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 10/14/2012 8:54 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:26:20 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> I think she was born in the 70's, I recall when she started with CH2 as
>>> the fumbling stumbling new kid back in the mid 90's. And I recall her
>>> still infamous quote, "The airplane skidded into a crash."
>>
>> Ouch!
>
>Best watched with the volume on mute.
And a kleenex? <knowing grin>
--
Experience is a hard teacher because she gives
the test first, the lesson afterwards.
-- Vernon Sanders Law
On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 14:59:37 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 10/13/2012 1:15 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 08:04:58 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/12/2012 11:43 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 23:26:50 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/12/2012 4:52 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>>>> The space shuttle, Endeavor, all 65 tons, 78 ft wing span, and some
>>>>>> 120 ft long, is on the move.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This time down the streets of Los Angeles from LAX to her final
>>>>>> resting
>>>>>> place, about 12 miles away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Traveling at no more than 2 miles/hour, it is going to take awhile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quite a logistics accomplishment, considering the clearances are down
>>>>>> to about 12 inches in some places.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's quite a sight in real time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And a Texas built truck will be pulling it to its end.
>>>>
>>>> Really, a Tundra? (I'll bet it could...on the flat.
>>>>
>>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/shuttle-passes-obstacle-heads-toward-la-museum-075351657--finance.html
>>
>> Toyota couldn't ask for better advertising than that, could they?
>> <vbg>
>>
>> KCAL Ch9 in HelL.A. has some real babe announcers.
>>
>
>We have a pretty nice looking anchor at CH2 in Houston. But she traded
>brains for looks. http://dominiquesachse.tv/
Hot, for an older woman. <g> Many good looking women fit that
trade-in mold.
--
Experience is a hard teacher because she gives
the test first, the lesson afterwards.
-- Vernon Sanders Law
On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:10:24 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 10/14/2012 2:33 AM, Bob Martin wrote:
>> in 1540119 20121014 042620 Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>
>>> I think she was born in the 70's, I recall when she started with CH2 as
>>> the fumbling stumbling new kid back in the mid 90's. And I recall her
>>> still infamous quote, "The airplane skidded into a crash."
>>
>> What's wrong with that? Surely you can skid without crashing?
>>
>There was no crash to slid into. She used "crash" as an object rather
>than an action.
She DE-gerunded it? How crass!
>Don't get me started on "over turned vehicle". Is over turning the same
>thing as over steering??? Your turn a vehicle, can you under turn a
>vehicle?
No, you steer a vehicle, and have understeer and oversteer.
You overturn (aka: FLIP) Beemers, Exploders, and other SUVs.
--
Experience is a hard teacher because she gives
the test first, the lesson afterwards.
-- Vernon Sanders Law
"Lew Hodgett" wrote:
> The space shuttle, Endeavor, all 65 tons, 78 ft wing span, and some
> 120 ft long, is on the move.
>
> This time down the streets of Los Angeles from LAX to her final
> resting
> place, about 12 miles away.
>
> Traveling at no more than 2 miles/hour, it is going to take awhile.
>
> Quite a logistics accomplishment, considering the clearances are
> down
> to about 12 inches in some places.
>
> It's quite a sight in real time.
-----------------------------------------------------
Correction:
That should read 85 tons.
Lew
"Keith Nuttle" wrote:
> It is one of the saddest days of my life to see the symbolic end of
> the US space program. In the fifties and sixties as kids we were
> sure we would always be first, as the space program represented to
> us that this country could do anything, and except for Sputnik we
> did. Now the US has to stand by the side of the space road thumbing
> a ride into space.
>
> All of the technical advances that have enter mainstream from the
> space programs are ending. Things like the Laser surgeries that
> they are doing routinely today, which we would not have without the
> initial work in President Reagan Starwar programs. Everything from
> advances in medicine to Tang. The space program was the central
> point in the federal research program, and there are millions of
> things that we think of necessities today that started in the space
> program.
>
> In some ways it is also symbolic of decline of what was once a great
> nation.
>
> I hope we will realize what we are doing before we become just an
> another of the many debit ridden countries that are trying to
> survive as independent countries. A debit ridden nation that has a
> first lady who said the only time she was proud to be an American
> was when her husband became president.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Poor baby, do you always have your head up your ass when you start
blowing hot air?
The folks here at JPL as well as the private company in El Segundo who
have
sent an unmanned vehicle to the space station, docked and then
successfully returned
to earth, might just take exception with your nonsense.
The fact that the Ruskis are providing "taxi service" for a short
period of time while the
next generation of manned vehicles are brought on stream is NBD, IMHO.
Have a beer before you pop a blood vessel.
Lew
On 10/12/2012 04:24 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
> On 10/12/2012 7:00 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> "Bill" wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What is the destination?
>>>
>> --------------------------
>> The California Science Center
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>
>>
> It is one of the saddest days of my life to see the symbolic end of the
> US space program. In the fifties and sixties as kids we were sure we
> would always be first, as the space program represented to us that this
> country could do anything, and except for Sputnik we did. Now the US
> has to stand by the side of the space road thumbing a ride into space.
>
> All of the technical advances that have enter mainstream from the space
> programs are ending. Things like the Laser surgeries that they are
> doing routinely today, which we would not have without the initial work
> in President Reagan Starwar programs. Everything from advances in
> medicine to Tang. The space program was the central point in the
> federal research program, and there are millions of things that we think
> of necessities today that started in the space program.
>
> In some ways it is also symbolic of decline of what was once a great
> nation.
>
> I hope we will realize what we are doing before we become just an
> another of the many debit ridden countries that are trying to survive as
> independent countries. A debit ridden nation that has a first lady who
> said the only time she was proud to be an American was when her husband
> became president.
Didn't you hear? The President has directed NASA to get into the Muslim
outreach business.
--
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill
On Oct 12, 4:52=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
\
I have been following this too and it is fascinating. Like moving a
large two or three story house through a crowded city but in spades.
I stood in the shadow of the assembled shuttle in near launch
configuration at the rocket and space museum in Alabama a few years
ago and got a surprising perspective of how large it is
I don't know why, but it made me think about the Spruce Goose when it
was at Long Beach. I walked into the large, plastic dome near the
Queen Mary, saw the goose on the opposite side of the building and
thought "It ain't all that big." Then we walked across the floor, up
under the wings and I realized "Wow!".
RonB
On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 23:26:50 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 10/12/2012 4:52 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> The space shuttle, Endeavor, all 65 tons, 78 ft wing span, and some
>> 120 ft long, is on the move.
>>
>> This time down the streets of Los Angeles from LAX to her final
>> resting
>> place, about 12 miles away.
>>
>> Traveling at no more than 2 miles/hour, it is going to take awhile.
>>
>> Quite a logistics accomplishment, considering the clearances are down
>> to about 12 inches in some places.
>>
>> It's quite a sight in real time.
>>
>
>And a Texas built truck will be pulling it to its end.
Really, a Tundra? (I'll bet it could...on the flat.
--
Experience is a hard teacher because she gives
the test first, the lesson afterwards.
-- Vernon Sanders Law
Leon wrote:
>
> Whoa!!!!!!! I screwed up! How bout that!
>
> The words I meant to compare are actually "Use" and "utilize" and you
> can tack on utilization.
>
> "Use" can always be use in place of utilize and utilization.
That makes more sense. Now I am in a lot more agreement with you. I think
a lot of times words like that are used (utilized...) to make the "speaker"
sound more sophisticated - or at least that is the attempt. More... formal.
Or something like that. I agree - when there is no real need - there is no
real need. Perhaps we could dialog about this further...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Leon wrote:
> On 10/15/2012 5:28 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Leon wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Not disputing that. the fact is however that it means nothing other
>>> than utilize. It is over glorification.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have never ever heard the word before 5 or so years ago and like
>>> utilize function fill the bill just fine. Over glorification.
>>
>> Not really - both versions of the words are used to describe the
>> ability of each. The ability to be utilized and the ability to
>> function. The root words wouldn't work in those contexts.
>
>
> Give me an example of when "utilization" will work but "utilize" will
> not.
What is the utilization rate of a Festool drill see in the hands of a
hobbyist?
Yes - you could rephrase it to use the word utilize, but the word still is
valid and has a use. But then again, any root word that has a "tion" suffix
could be properly fit into a sentence if the sentence were to be reworded.
Perhaps my hasty example was not the best...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Leon wrote:
> On 10/15/2012 10:28 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Leon wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps dull but much more understood. Leave the excitement to the
>>> journalists.
>>
>> Oh please don't! Have you seen how poor journalistic grammar has
>> become? Is there even any proof-reading anymore?
>>
>
> I pruf reed everthang!
Yeah - but you're Leon... you get a special dispensation...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Leon wrote:
>
> Not disputing that. the fact is however that it means nothing other
> than utilize. It is over glorification.
>
>
> I have never ever heard the word before 5 or so years ago and like
> utilize function fill the bill just fine. Over glorification.
Not really - both versions of the words are used to describe the ability of
each. The ability to be utilized and the ability to function. The root
words wouldn't work in those contexts.
I do agree with you though. My all time favorite (not...) was when the word
dialog became misused. We didn't sit down and talk anymore, we sat down to
"dialog". I hated that. And then there's the word "hate"...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 10/15/2012 11:36 AM, dpb wrote:
> On 10/15/2012 10:25 AM, Leon wrote:
>> On 10/15/2012 9:44 AM, dpb wrote:
> ...
>
>>> And, if one followed your rule to its conclusion of no synonyms, English
>>> would be rather dull.
>>
>> Perhaps dull but much more understood. Leave the excitement to the
>> journalists.
>
> Poetry is of no value, then, in your world I take it?
Why, Leon has all kinds of pottery ...
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"diggerdoug a" wrote:
>I just hope they make some furniture out of all those trees that
>they
> cut down to get it where it was going.
----------------------------------------------
As I understand they were mostly Palm and Eucalyptus.
The roots do a great job tearing up sidewalks and the trees die from
the
inside out so they end up falling on cars and houses.
Don't know what they will replant but they will be urban friendly.
Lew
On 10/15/2012 3:56 PM, dpb wrote:
> On 10/15/2012 1:32 PM, Leon wrote:
> ...
>
>> Function is a noun as you pointed out but it is also a verb. It is when
>> the longer version is used when the shorter version could be used is
>> what gets me.
>>
>> The modifications will enhance the tool's function.
>>
>> or as they like to say on TV,
>>
>> The accessories will enhance the tool's functionality.
>
> Well, variety is the spice of life... :)
>
> According to my Oxford Unabridged the 'functional' usage dates to the
> first quarter of the 16th century so it's hardly a recent affectation of
> telemarketers it would seem.
>
> --
I don't so much have a problem with function and or functional, it is
functionality that is the new buzz word.
While you will find functionality in the dictionary, you now find ain't
and googled in the dictionary.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ain't
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=googled
And then the word used like functionality and utilize, irregardless, all
basically unnecessary words. Yes irregardless is in the dictionary
although most describe it as a non word, but people use it and the
dictionary attempts to define it.
The sole purpose of a dictionary is to define a word as used by the
masses. The dictionary grows as new words are "made up".
Twenty five years ago if you looked google up in the dictionary you got
the definition of a particularly large number, today the first meaning
is, of all things, "search engine".
On 10/15/2012 8:19 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 10/15/2012 5:28 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Leon wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Not disputing that. the fact is however that it means nothing other
>>> than utilize. It is over glorification.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have never ever heard the word before 5 or so years ago and like
>>> utilize function fill the bill just fine. Over glorification.
>>
>> Not really - both versions of the words are used to describe the
>> ability of
>> each. The ability to be utilized and the ability to function. The root
>> words wouldn't work in those contexts.
>
>
> Give me an example of when "utilization" will work but "utilize" will not.
>
Whoa!!!!!!! I screwed up! How bout that!
The words I meant to compare are actually "Use" and "utilize" and you
can tack on utilization.
"Use" can always be use in place of utilize and utilization.
On 10/15/2012 10:24 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>
>>
>> Whoa!!!!!!! I screwed up! How bout that!
>>
>> The words I meant to compare are actually "Use" and "utilize" and you
>> can tack on utilization.
>>
>> "Use" can always be use in place of utilize and utilization.
>
>
> That makes more sense. Now I am in a lot more agreement with you. I think
> a lot of times words like that are used (utilized...) to make the "speaker"
> sound more sophisticated - or at least that is the attempt. More... formal.
> Or something like that. I agree - when there is no real need - there is no
> real need. Perhaps we could dialog about this further...
>
Mike you now understand what I was trying to say.. My fault for the
confusion. You have hit the nail on the head with what I was thinking.
I find the over dramatization of many words being tested by the green
and up and coming news journalists. I think treacherous has been totally
used up.
On 10/14/2012 3:42 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 13:55:09 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/14/2012 11:43 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:10:24 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/14/2012 2:33 AM, Bob Martin wrote:
>>>>> in 1540119 20121014 042620 Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think she was born in the 70's, I recall when she started with CH2 as
>>>>>> the fumbling stumbling new kid back in the mid 90's. And I recall her
>>>>>> still infamous quote, "The airplane skidded into a crash."
>>>>>
>>>>> What's wrong with that? Surely you can skid without crashing?
>>>>>
>>>> There was no crash to slid into. She used "crash" as an object rather
>>>> than an action.
>>>
>>> She DE-gerunded it? How crass!
>>>
>>>
>>>> Don't get me started on "over turned vehicle". Is over turning the same
>>>> thing as over steering??? Your turn a vehicle, can you under turn a
>>>> vehicle?
>>>
>>> No, you steer a vehicle, and have understeer and oversteer.
>>> You overturn (aka: FLIP) Beemers, Exploders, and other SUVs.
>>
>>
>> So you would be clueless if I mentioned that there was a wreck where a
>> vehicle turned over?
>
> The engine turns over each times it is started, sir. Learn your
> terminology, will ya? ;)
>
>
>> Over turned... over is used ad an adverb. Turned over, over is the
>> location. I am not buying it.
>
> I agree. "Went tits-up." is much more definitive, but just _try_ to
> get a nun to teach that to her class. I dare you.
;~) What it all boils down to is, like Swingman has stated about the
looks, the news people learn a new way to describe an event and they all
want to jump on board.
Not too long ago all of the weather guys mentioned heat indexes. More
recently the new word is heat "in-dee-cee's. Both are right but why change?
How about the word utilization. When will the word utilize ever not be
enough? Why add tion?
And then my new all time favorite.........."FUNCTIONALITY". Why add
"ity"? I don't recall ever hearing that word prior to 5 years ago.
On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:43:08 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 10/15/2012 10:28 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Leon wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps dull but much more understood. Leave the excitement to the
>>> journalists.
>>
>> Oh please don't! Have you seen how poor journalistic grammar has become?
>> Is there even any proof-reading anymore?
>>
>
>I pruf reed everthang!
Ewe
due??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--
To use fear as the friend it is, we must retrain and reprogram ourselves...
We must persistently and convincingly tell ourselves that the fear is
here--with its gift of energy and heightened awareness--so we can do our
best and learn the most in the new situation.
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On 10/15/2012 11:36 AM, dpb wrote:
> On 10/15/2012 10:25 AM, Leon wrote:
>> On 10/15/2012 9:44 AM, dpb wrote:
> ...
>
>>> And, if one followed your rule to its conclusion of no synonyms, English
>>> would be rather dull.
>>
>> Perhaps dull but much more understood. Leave the excitement to the
>> journalists.
>
> Poetry is of no value, then, in your world I take it?
>
> --
Not to say that there is not a place for poetry but I can live with out
it. Especially in today's RAP.
On 10/15/2012 10:56 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> On 10/15/2012 10:28 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> Leon wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps dull but much more understood. Leave the excitement to the
>>>> journalists.
>>>
>>> Oh please don't! Have you seen how poor journalistic grammar has
>>> become? Is there even any proof-reading anymore?
>>>
>>
>> I pruf reed everthang!
>
> Yeah - but you're Leon... you get a special dispensation...
>
I'm specital! Uh Special.
On 10/15/2012 10:28 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>
>>
>> Perhaps dull but much more understood. Leave the excitement to the
>> journalists.
>
> Oh please don't! Have you seen how poor journalistic grammar has become?
> Is there even any proof-reading anymore?
>
Actually yes and the core of my complaint. KISS.
On 10/15/2012 1:13 PM, dpb wrote:
> On 10/15/2012 12:23 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> ...
>
>> maintain that either form could be used - depending upon the sentence
>> structure.
>
> Replace "could" w/ "must" and you're much closer.
>
> What I was trying to clarify w/ the way you were responding/dialoging :)
> w/ Leon was also seeming to treat them as interchangeable words instead
> of pointing out the grammatical difference between the two cases Leon
> seems to claim no reason for existence of but one.
>
> --
Perhaps I should have indicated that the words can often be used the same.
Function is a noun as you pointed out but it is also a verb. It is when
the longer version is used when the shorter version could be used is
what gets me.
The modifications will enhance the tool's function.
or as they like to say on TV,
The accessories will enhance the tool's functionality.
dpb wrote:
> On 10/15/2012 10:20 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> ...
>
>> Yes - you could rephrase it to use the word utilize, but the word
>> still is valid and has a use....
>
> You're missing the point of there being two words -- they aren't
> really two words but the two (particular) forms of the same one: one
> is a noun while the other is an adjective. Which is the right one is
> based on the grammatical structure of the sentence. Just as in the
> other example one was a verb and the other and adverb (iirc).
That's exactly what i was trying to say (although I may have done so
poorly). I was acknowleging that there were two forms of the word, and that
either form could be used - if you restructured the sentence. But - it
would require restructuring the sentence to use one of the forms. I
maintain that either form could be used - depending upon the sentence
structure.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 10/15/2012 5:28 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>
>>
>> Not disputing that. the fact is however that it means nothing other
>> than utilize. It is over glorification.
>>
>>
>> I have never ever heard the word before 5 or so years ago and like
>> utilize function fill the bill just fine. Over glorification.
>
> Not really - both versions of the words are used to describe the ability of
> each. The ability to be utilized and the ability to function. The root
> words wouldn't work in those contexts.
Give me an example of when "utilization" will work but "utilize" will not.
Leon wrote:
>
> Not too long ago all of the weather guys mentioned heat indexes. More
> recently the new word is heat "in-dee-cee's. Both are right but why
> change?
Indices is the plural of index. Indexes is not.
>
> How about the word utilization. When will the word utilize ever not
> be enough? Why add tion?
>
It's always been a valid word.
> And then my new all time favorite.........."FUNCTIONALITY". Why add
> "ity"? I don't recall ever hearing that word prior to 5 years ago.
Same thing Leon - functionality has always been a valid word.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Leon wrote:
>
> Perhaps dull but much more understood. Leave the excitement to the
> journalists.
Oh please don't! Have you seen how poor journalistic grammar has become?
Is there even any proof-reading anymore?
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 10/15/2012 4:52 PM, dpb wrote:
> On 10/15/2012 4:45 PM, Leon wrote:
> ...
>
>>> According to my Oxford Unabridged the 'functional' usage dates to the
>>> first quarter of the 16th century so it's hardly a recent affectation of
>>> telemarketers it would seem.
>>>
> ...
>
>>
>> I don't so much have a problem with function and or functional, it is
>> functionality that is the new buzz word.
>
> ...
>
> No, that's what I'm pointing out that the form existed way, way back...
>
> --
But way back is not now. Shoot, I got a lot of respectability for the
way things were, can't have any denyability about that. ;~)
I guess it is all in how you set up your sentences and their
functionality to communicate to the masses.
On 10/15/2012 9:44 AM, dpb wrote:
> On 10/15/2012 9:31 AM, Leon wrote:
> ...
>
>> The words I meant to compare are actually "Use" and "utilize" and you
>> can tack on utilization.
>>
>> "Use" can always be use in place of utilize and utilization.
>
> Not the _same_ use, no. There are two "uses" used here to fulfill the
> function.
>
> One is a noun and the other is a verb and they're pronounced differently
> even if spelled the same.
>
> And, if one followed your rule to its conclusion of no synonyms, English
> would be rather dull.
Perhaps dull but much more understood. Leave the excitement to the
journalists.
On 10/15/2012 10:20 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> On 10/15/2012 5:28 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> Leon wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not disputing that. the fact is however that it means nothing other
>>>> than utilize. It is over glorification.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have never ever heard the word before 5 or so years ago and like
>>>> utilize function fill the bill just fine. Over glorification.
>>>
>>> Not really - both versions of the words are used to describe the
>>> ability of each. The ability to be utilized and the ability to
>>> function. The root words wouldn't work in those contexts.
>>
>>
>> Give me an example of when "utilization" will work but "utilize" will
>> not.
>
> What is the utilization rate of a Festool drill see in the hands of a
> hobbyist?
What is the use rate of bla bla bla.
You could also ask, What is the functionality of the negativity of the
person or persons that have a slant against the utilization of a much
more functional tool with tons of functionality.
I learned to make the sentence as short as possible with out all the
fancy words unless the progfssor is doing a word count.
>
> Yes - you could rephrase it to use the word utilize, but the word still is
> valid and has a use. But then again, any root word that has a "tion" suffix
> could be properly fit into a sentence if the sentence were to be reworded.
> Perhaps my hasty example was not the best...
>
On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 13:55:09 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 10/14/2012 11:43 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:10:24 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/14/2012 2:33 AM, Bob Martin wrote:
>>>> in 1540119 20121014 042620 Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think she was born in the 70's, I recall when she started with CH2 as
>>>>> the fumbling stumbling new kid back in the mid 90's. And I recall her
>>>>> still infamous quote, "The airplane skidded into a crash."
>>>>
>>>> What's wrong with that? Surely you can skid without crashing?
>>>>
>>> There was no crash to slid into. She used "crash" as an object rather
>>> than an action.
>>
>> She DE-gerunded it? How crass!
>>
>>
>>> Don't get me started on "over turned vehicle". Is over turning the same
>>> thing as over steering??? Your turn a vehicle, can you under turn a
>>> vehicle?
>>
>> No, you steer a vehicle, and have understeer and oversteer.
>> You overturn (aka: FLIP) Beemers, Exploders, and other SUVs.
>
>
>So you would be clueless if I mentioned that there was a wreck where a
>vehicle turned over?
The engine turns over each times it is started, sir. Learn your
terminology, will ya? ;)
>Over turned... over is used ad an adverb. Turned over, over is the
>location. I am not buying it.
I agree. "Went tits-up." is much more definitive, but just _try_ to
get a nun to teach that to her class. I dare you.
--
Experience is a hard teacher because she gives
the test first, the lesson afterwards.
-- Vernon Sanders Law
On 10/14/2012 10:16 PM, Leon wrote:
...
>>> And then my new all time favorite.........."FUNCTIONALITY". Why add
>>> "ity"? I don't recall ever hearing that word prior to 5 years ago.
>>
>> Same thing Leon - functionality has always been a valid word.
>>
>
> I have never ever heard the word before 5 or so years ago and like
> utilize function fill the bill just fine. Over glorification.
"functional" is an adjective, "functionality" is a noun.
Something _is_ functional; functionality is a property of, say, a set of
tools.
It's grammar, Leon... :)
--
On 10/15/2012 9:31 AM, Leon wrote:
...
> The words I meant to compare are actually "Use" and "utilize" and you
> can tack on utilization.
>
> "Use" can always be use in place of utilize and utilization.
Not the _same_ use, no. There are two "uses" used here to fulfill the
function.
One is a noun and the other is a verb and they're pronounced differently
even if spelled the same.
And, if one followed your rule to its conclusion of no synonyms, English
would be rather dull.
--
On 10/15/2012 10:25 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 10/15/2012 9:44 AM, dpb wrote:
...
>> And, if one followed your rule to its conclusion of no synonyms, English
>> would be rather dull.
>
> Perhaps dull but much more understood. Leave the excitement to the
> journalists.
Poetry is of no value, then, in your world I take it?
--
On 10/15/2012 10:20 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
...
> Yes - you could rephrase it to use the word utilize, but the word still is
> valid and has a use....
You're missing the point of there being two words -- they aren't really
two words but the two (particular) forms of the same one: one is a noun
while the other is an adjective. Which is the right one is based on the
grammatical structure of the sentence. Just as in the other example one
was a verb and the other and adverb (iirc).
--
On 10/15/2012 12:23 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
...
> maintain that either form could be used - depending upon the sentence
> structure.
Replace "could" w/ "must" and you're much closer.
What I was trying to clarify w/ the way you were responding/dialoging :)
w/ Leon was also seeming to treat them as interchangeable words instead
of pointing out the grammatical difference between the two cases Leon
seems to claim no reason for existence of but one.
--
On 10/15/2012 1:35 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 10/15/2012 11:36 AM, dpb wrote:
>> On 10/15/2012 10:25 AM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 10/15/2012 9:44 AM, dpb wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>>> And, if one followed your rule to its conclusion of no synonyms,
>>>> English would be rather dull.
>>>
>>> Perhaps dull but much more understood. Leave the excitement to the
>>> journalists.
>>
>> Poetry is of no value, then, in your world I take it?
>>
> Not to say that there is not a place for poetry but I can live with out
> it. Especially in today's RAP.
A pale existence if shut out all but the plainest of expression...how
depressing a thought.
--
On 10/15/2012 1:32 PM, Leon wrote:
...
> Function is a noun as you pointed out but it is also a verb. It is when
> the longer version is used when the shorter version could be used is
> what gets me.
>
> The modifications will enhance the tool's function.
>
> or as they like to say on TV,
>
> The accessories will enhance the tool's functionality.
Well, variety is the spice of life... :)
According to my Oxford Unabridged the 'functional' usage dates to the
first quarter of the 16th century so it's hardly a recent affectation of
telemarketers it would seem.
--
On 10/15/2012 4:45 PM, Leon wrote:
...
>> According to my Oxford Unabridged the 'functional' usage dates to the
>> first quarter of the 16th century so it's hardly a recent affectation of
>> telemarketers it would seem.
>>
...
>
> I don't so much have a problem with function and or functional, it is
> functionality that is the new buzz word.
...
No, that's what I'm pointing out that the form existed way, way back...
--
On 10/15/2012 5:33 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 10/15/2012 4:52 PM, dpb wrote:
>> On 10/15/2012 4:45 PM, Leon wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>>> According to my Oxford Unabridged the 'functional' usage dates to the
>>>> first quarter of the 16th century so it's hardly a recent
>>>> affectation of
>>>> telemarketers it would seem.
>>>>
>> ...
>>
>>>
>>> I don't so much have a problem with function and or functional, it is
>>> functionality that is the new buzz word.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> No, that's what I'm pointing out that the form existed way, way back...
>>
> But way back is not now. Shoot, I got a lot of respectability for the
> way things were, can't have any denyability about that. ;~)
>
> I guess it is all in how you set up your sentences and their
> functionality to communicate to the masses.
Indeedy, do...but I'll submit that to my ear the "functionality" form in
the previous example is superior to the other. Then again, my HS Sr
English comp teacher said I tended to write "Steinbeckian" and I'm not
sure it was entirely intended as a compliment. :)
--
On 10/14/2012 8:46 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>
>>
>> Not too long ago all of the weather guys mentioned heat indexes. More
>> recently the new word is heat "in-dee-cee's. Both are right but why
>> change?
>
> Indices is the plural of index. Indexes is not.
>
>>
>> How about the word utilization. When will the word utilize ever not
>> be enough? Why add tion?
>>
>
> It's always been a valid word.
Not disputing that. the fact is however that it means nothing other
than utilize. It is over glorification.
>
>> And then my new all time favorite.........."FUNCTIONALITY". Why add
>> "ity"? I don't recall ever hearing that word prior to 5 years ago.
>
> Same thing Leon - functionality has always been a valid word.
>
I have never ever heard the word before 5 or so years ago and like
utilize function fill the bill just fine. Over glorification.
On 10/14/2012 10:11 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 10/14/2012 8:54 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:26:20 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/13/2012 9:39 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 14:59:37 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/13/2012 1:15 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 08:04:58 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/12/2012 11:43 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 23:26:50 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/12/2012 4:52 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> The space shuttle, Endeavor, all 65 tons, 78 ft wing span, and
>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>> 120 ft long, is on the move.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This time down the streets of Los Angeles from LAX to her final
>>>>>>>>>> resting
>>>>>>>>>> place, about 12 miles away.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Traveling at no more than 2 miles/hour, it is going to take
>>>>>>>>>> awhile.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Quite a logistics accomplishment, considering the clearances
>>>>>>>>>> are down
>>>>>>>>>> to about 12 inches in some places.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's quite a sight in real time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And a Texas built truck will be pulling it to its end.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Really, a Tundra? (I'll bet it could...on the flat.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/shuttle-passes-obstacle-heads-toward-la-museum-075351657--finance.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Toyota couldn't ask for better advertising than that, could they?
>>>>>> <vbg>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> KCAL Ch9 in HelL.A. has some real babe announcers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We have a pretty nice looking anchor at CH2 in Houston. But she
>>>>> traded
>>>>> brains for looks. http://dominiquesachse.tv/
>>>>
>>>> Hot, for an older woman. <g> Many good looking women fit that
>>>> trade-in mold.
>>>
>>> I think she was born in the 70's, I recall when she started with CH2 as
>>> the fumbling stumbling new kid back in the mid 90's. And I recall her
>>> still infamous quote, "The airplane skidded into a crash."
>>
>> Ouch!
>
> Best watched with the volume on mute.
Dominique gain her fame in the days of faddish, overblown, bee stung
lips ... from day on you could lick her's and stick her to the ceiling.
Culturally, we've now moved on to big tits and over white teeth ...
along with upper gum showing, horse laugh smiles, spiked hair and 9 PM
shadow for what passes as the male of the species.
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On 10/13/2012 1:15 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 08:04:58 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/12/2012 11:43 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 23:26:50 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/12/2012 4:52 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>>> The space shuttle, Endeavor, all 65 tons, 78 ft wing span, and some
>>>>> 120 ft long, is on the move.
>>>>>
>>>>> This time down the streets of Los Angeles from LAX to her final
>>>>> resting
>>>>> place, about 12 miles away.
>>>>>
>>>>> Traveling at no more than 2 miles/hour, it is going to take awhile.
>>>>>
>>>>> Quite a logistics accomplishment, considering the clearances are down
>>>>> to about 12 inches in some places.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's quite a sight in real time.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And a Texas built truck will be pulling it to its end.
>>>
>>> Really, a Tundra? (I'll bet it could...on the flat.
>>>
>>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/shuttle-passes-obstacle-heads-toward-la-museum-075351657--finance.html
>
> Toyota couldn't ask for better advertising than that, could they?
> <vbg>
>
> KCAL Ch9 in HelL.A. has some real babe announcers.
>
We have a pretty nice looking anchor at CH2 in Houston. But she traded
brains for looks. http://dominiquesachse.tv/
On 10/14/2012 7:56 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:48:47 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/14/2012 3:38 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 13:56:38 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/14/2012 11:40 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:37:40 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/14/2012 10:11 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/14/2012 8:54 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:26:20 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> We have a pretty nice looking anchor at CH2 in Houston. But she
>>>>>>>>>>> traded
>>>>>>>>>>> brains for looks. http://dominiquesachse.tv/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hot, for an older woman. <g> Many good looking women fit that
>>>>>>>>>> trade-in mold.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think she was born in the 70's, I recall when she started with CH2 as
>>>>>>>>> the fumbling stumbling new kid back in the mid 90's. And I recall her
>>>>>>>>> still infamous quote, "The airplane skidded into a crash."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ouch!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best watched with the volume on mute.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dominique gain her fame in the days of faddish, overblown, bee stung
>>>>>> lips ... from day on you could lick her's and stick her to the ceiling.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Jolie Era, eh?
>>>>
>>>> That is about right. Both decent to look at but you would not want an
>>>> opinion from either. LOL
>>>
>>> True. And poor Angelina has no nipples! Flat ends on those babies...
>>
>> She has not seen me! :~)
>
> That's why they're not poop-inners yet.
Poop or pop? ;~)
> --
> Experience is a hard teacher because she gives
> the test first, the lesson afterwards.
> -- Vernon Sanders Law
>
On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:48:47 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 10/14/2012 3:38 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 13:56:38 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/14/2012 11:40 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:37:40 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/14/2012 10:11 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/14/2012 8:54 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:26:20 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> We have a pretty nice looking anchor at CH2 in Houston. But she
>>>>>>>>>> traded
>>>>>>>>>> brains for looks. http://dominiquesachse.tv/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hot, for an older woman. <g> Many good looking women fit that
>>>>>>>>> trade-in mold.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think she was born in the 70's, I recall when she started with CH2 as
>>>>>>>> the fumbling stumbling new kid back in the mid 90's. And I recall her
>>>>>>>> still infamous quote, "The airplane skidded into a crash."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ouch!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best watched with the volume on mute.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dominique gain her fame in the days of faddish, overblown, bee stung
>>>>> lips ... from day on you could lick her's and stick her to the ceiling.
>>>>
>>>> The Jolie Era, eh?
>>>
>>> That is about right. Both decent to look at but you would not want an
>>> opinion from either. LOL
>>
>> True. And poor Angelina has no nipples! Flat ends on those babies...
>
>She has not seen me! :~)
That's why they're not poop-inners yet.
--
Experience is a hard teacher because she gives
the test first, the lesson afterwards.
-- Vernon Sanders Law
On 10/14/2012 8:54 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:26:20 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/13/2012 9:39 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 14:59:37 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/13/2012 1:15 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 08:04:58 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/12/2012 11:43 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 23:26:50 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/12/2012 4:52 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The space shuttle, Endeavor, all 65 tons, 78 ft wing span, and some
>>>>>>>>> 120 ft long, is on the move.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This time down the streets of Los Angeles from LAX to her final
>>>>>>>>> resting
>>>>>>>>> place, about 12 miles away.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Traveling at no more than 2 miles/hour, it is going to take awhile.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Quite a logistics accomplishment, considering the clearances are down
>>>>>>>>> to about 12 inches in some places.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's quite a sight in real time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And a Texas built truck will be pulling it to its end.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really, a Tundra? (I'll bet it could...on the flat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/shuttle-passes-obstacle-heads-toward-la-museum-075351657--finance.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Toyota couldn't ask for better advertising than that, could they?
>>>>> <vbg>
>>>>>
>>>>> KCAL Ch9 in HelL.A. has some real babe announcers.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We have a pretty nice looking anchor at CH2 in Houston. But she traded
>>>> brains for looks. http://dominiquesachse.tv/
>>>
>>> Hot, for an older woman. <g> Many good looking women fit that
>>> trade-in mold.
>>
>> I think she was born in the 70's, I recall when she started with CH2 as
>> the fumbling stumbling new kid back in the mid 90's. And I recall her
>> still infamous quote, "The airplane skidded into a crash."
>
> Ouch!
Best watched with the volume on mute.
On 10/14/2012 2:33 AM, Bob Martin wrote:
> in 1540119 20121014 042620 Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>
>> I think she was born in the 70's, I recall when she started with CH2 as
>> the fumbling stumbling new kid back in the mid 90's. And I recall her
>> still infamous quote, "The airplane skidded into a crash."
>
> What's wrong with that? Surely you can skid without crashing?
>
There was no crash to slid into. She used "crash" as an object rather
than an action.
Don't get me started on "over turned vehicle". Is over turning the same
thing as over steering??? Your turn a vehicle, can you under turn a
vehicle?
On 10/12/2012 4:52 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> The space shuttle, Endeavor, all 65 tons, 78 ft wing span, and some
> 120 ft long, is on the move.
>
> This time down the streets of Los Angeles from LAX to her final
> resting
> place, about 12 miles away.
>
> Traveling at no more than 2 miles/hour, it is going to take awhile.
>
> Quite a logistics accomplishment, considering the clearances are down
> to about 12 inches in some places.
>
> It's quite a sight in real time.
>
> Lew
>
>
>
And a Texas built truck will be pulling it to its end.
On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:37:40 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 10/14/2012 10:11 AM, Leon wrote:
>> On 10/14/2012 8:54 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:26:20 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> We have a pretty nice looking anchor at CH2 in Houston. But she
>>>>>> traded
>>>>>> brains for looks. http://dominiquesachse.tv/
>>>>>
>>>>> Hot, for an older woman. <g> Many good looking women fit that
>>>>> trade-in mold.
>>>>
>>>> I think she was born in the 70's, I recall when she started with CH2 as
>>>> the fumbling stumbling new kid back in the mid 90's. And I recall her
>>>> still infamous quote, "The airplane skidded into a crash."
>>>
>>> Ouch!
>>
>> Best watched with the volume on mute.
>
>Dominique gain her fame in the days of faddish, overblown, bee stung
>lips ... from day on you could lick her's and stick her to the ceiling.
The Jolie Era, eh?
>Culturally, we've now moved on to big tits and over white teeth ...
>along with upper gum showing, horse laugh smiles, spiked hair and 9 PM
>shadow for what passes as the male of the species.
Ouch, once again. Gonna throw up...
--
Experience is a hard teacher because she gives
the test first, the lesson afterwards.
-- Vernon Sanders Law
On 10/14/2012 11:40 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:37:40 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 10/14/2012 10:11 AM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 10/14/2012 8:54 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:26:20 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> We have a pretty nice looking anchor at CH2 in Houston. But she
>>>>>>> traded
>>>>>>> brains for looks. http://dominiquesachse.tv/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hot, for an older woman. <g> Many good looking women fit that
>>>>>> trade-in mold.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think she was born in the 70's, I recall when she started with CH2 as
>>>>> the fumbling stumbling new kid back in the mid 90's. And I recall her
>>>>> still infamous quote, "The airplane skidded into a crash."
>>>>
>>>> Ouch!
>>>
>>> Best watched with the volume on mute.
>>
>> Dominique gain her fame in the days of faddish, overblown, bee stung
>> lips ... from day on you could lick her's and stick her to the ceiling.
>
> The Jolie Era, eh?
That is about right. Both decent to look at but you would not want an
opinion from either. LOL
"Keith Nuttle" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
On 10/12/2012 7:00 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Bill" wrote:
>
>>
>> What is the destination?
>>
> --------------------------
> The California Science Center
>
> Lew
>
>
>
It is one of the saddest days of my life to see the symbolic end of the
US space program.
=========================================================================================
What????
On 10/13/2012 12:02 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Keith Nuttle" wrote:
>
>> It is one of the saddest days of my life to see the symbolic end of
>> the US space program. In the fifties and sixties as kids we were
>> sure we would always be first, as the space program represented to
>> us that this country could do anything, and except for Sputnik we
>> did. Now the US has to stand by the side of the space road thumbing
>> a ride into space.
>>
>> All of the technical advances that have enter mainstream from the
>> space programs are ending. Things like the Laser surgeries that
>> they are doing routinely today, which we would not have without the
>> initial work in President Reagan Starwar programs. Everything from
>> advances in medicine to Tang. The space program was the central
>> point in the federal research program, and there are millions of
>> things that we think of necessities today that started in the space
>> program.
>>
>> In some ways it is also symbolic of decline of what was once a great
>> nation.
>>
>> I hope we will realize what we are doing before we become just an
>> another of the many debit ridden countries that are trying to
>> survive as independent countries. A debit ridden nation that has a
>> first lady who said the only time she was proud to be an American
>> was when her husband became president.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Poor baby, do you always have your head up your ass when you start
> blowing hot air?
>
> The folks here at JPL as well as the private company in El Segundo who
> have
> sent an unmanned vehicle to the space station, docked and then
> successfully returned
> to earth, might just take exception with your nonsense.
>
> The fact that the Ruskis are providing "taxi service" for a short
> period of time while the
> next generation of manned vehicles are brought on stream is NBD, IMHO.
>
> Have a beer before you pop a blood vessel.
>
> Lew
>
>
>
I thought what he said was pretty interesting, Lew.
And right on all points.
On 10/12/2012 11:43 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 23:26:50 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/12/2012 4:52 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> The space shuttle, Endeavor, all 65 tons, 78 ft wing span, and some
>>> 120 ft long, is on the move.
>>>
>>> This time down the streets of Los Angeles from LAX to her final
>>> resting
>>> place, about 12 miles away.
>>>
>>> Traveling at no more than 2 miles/hour, it is going to take awhile.
>>>
>>> Quite a logistics accomplishment, considering the clearances are down
>>> to about 12 inches in some places.
>>>
>>> It's quite a sight in real time.
>>>
>>
>> And a Texas built truck will be pulling it to its end.
>
> Really, a Tundra? (I'll bet it could...on the flat.
>
> --
> Experience is a hard teacher because she gives
> the test first, the lesson afterwards.
> -- Vernon Sanders Law
>
http://news.yahoo.com/shuttle-passes-obstacle-heads-toward-la-museum-075351657--finance.html
On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 13:56:38 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 10/14/2012 11:40 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:37:40 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/14/2012 10:11 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>> On 10/14/2012 8:54 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:26:20 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> We have a pretty nice looking anchor at CH2 in Houston. But she
>>>>>>>> traded
>>>>>>>> brains for looks. http://dominiquesachse.tv/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hot, for an older woman. <g> Many good looking women fit that
>>>>>>> trade-in mold.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think she was born in the 70's, I recall when she started with CH2 as
>>>>>> the fumbling stumbling new kid back in the mid 90's. And I recall her
>>>>>> still infamous quote, "The airplane skidded into a crash."
>>>>>
>>>>> Ouch!
>>>>
>>>> Best watched with the volume on mute.
>>>
>>> Dominique gain her fame in the days of faddish, overblown, bee stung
>>> lips ... from day on you could lick her's and stick her to the ceiling.
>>
>> The Jolie Era, eh?
>
>That is about right. Both decent to look at but you would not want an
>opinion from either. LOL
True. And poor Angelina has no nipples! Flat ends on those babies...
--
Experience is a hard teacher because she gives
the test first, the lesson afterwards.
-- Vernon Sanders Law
On 10/14/2012 3:38 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 13:56:38 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/14/2012 11:40 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:37:40 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/14/2012 10:11 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>>> On 10/14/2012 8:54 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:26:20 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> We have a pretty nice looking anchor at CH2 in Houston. But she
>>>>>>>>> traded
>>>>>>>>> brains for looks. http://dominiquesachse.tv/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hot, for an older woman. <g> Many good looking women fit that
>>>>>>>> trade-in mold.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think she was born in the 70's, I recall when she started with CH2 as
>>>>>>> the fumbling stumbling new kid back in the mid 90's. And I recall her
>>>>>>> still infamous quote, "The airplane skidded into a crash."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ouch!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best watched with the volume on mute.
>>>>
>>>> Dominique gain her fame in the days of faddish, overblown, bee stung
>>>> lips ... from day on you could lick her's and stick her to the ceiling.
>>>
>>> The Jolie Era, eh?
>>
>> That is about right. Both decent to look at but you would not want an
>> opinion from either. LOL
>
> True. And poor Angelina has no nipples! Flat ends on those babies...
She has not seen me! :~)
Leon wrote:
>
> We have a pretty nice looking anchor at CH2 in Houston. But she
> traded brains for looks. http://dominiquesachse.tv/
Shoot - she don't need no brains...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
in 1540012 20121012 225244 "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>The space shuttle, Endeavor, all 65 tons, 78 ft wing span, and some
>120 ft long, is on the move.
>
>This time down the streets of Los Angeles from LAX to her final
>resting
>place, about 12 miles away.
>
>Traveling at no more than 2 miles/hour, it is going to take awhile.
>
>Quite a logistics accomplishment, considering the clearances are down
>to about 12 inches in some places.
>
>It's quite a sight in real time.
Ahem! It is spelled "Endeavour". It's named after Lt. James Cook's ship.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Endeavour
in 1540119 20121014 042620 Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>I think she was born in the 70's, I recall when she started with CH2 as
>the fumbling stumbling new kid back in the mid 90's. And I recall her
>still infamous quote, "The airplane skidded into a crash."
What's wrong with that? Surely you can skid without crashing?
On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 11:06:40 -0400, Casper <[email protected]>
>> And sometimes, you just don't want them to have any brains.
>
>Funny... Can't tell you how many times I've heard that said about men.
Hey! If a few women want to use me for mindless sex, I'm in!
On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 19:24:54 -0400, Keith Nuttle
<[email protected]> wrote:
>It is one of the saddest days of my life to see the symbolic end of the
>US space program. In the fifties and sixties as kids we were sure we
>would always be first, as the space program represented to us that this
>country could do anything, and except for Sputnik we did. Now the US
>has to stand by the side of the space road thumbing a ride into space.
>
>All of the technical advances that have enter mainstream from the space
>programs are ending. Things like the Laser surgeries that they are
>doing routinely today, which we would not have without the initial work
>in President Reagan Starwar programs. Everything from advances in
>medicine to Tang. The space program was the central point in the
>federal research program, and there are millions of things that we think
>of necessities today that started in the space program.
>
>In some ways it is also symbolic of decline of what was once a great
>nation.
>
>I hope we will realize what we are doing before we become just an
>another of the many debit ridden countries that are trying to survive as
>independent countries. A debit ridden nation that has a first lady who
>said the only time she was proud to be an American was when her husband
>became president.
Very well said, especially your last paragraph.
On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 19:18:28 -0500, Gordon Shumway
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 19:24:54 -0400, Keith Nuttle
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>It is one of the saddest days of my life to see the symbolic end of the
>>US space program. In the fifties and sixties as kids we were sure we
>>would always be first, as the space program represented to us that this
>>country could do anything, and except for Sputnik we did. Now the US
>>has to stand by the side of the space road thumbing a ride into space.
>>
>>All of the technical advances that have enter mainstream from the space
>>programs are ending. Things like the Laser surgeries that they are
>>doing routinely today, which we would not have without the initial work
>>in President Reagan Starwar programs. Everything from advances in
>>medicine to Tang. The space program was the central point in the
>>federal research program, and there are millions of things that we think
>>of necessities today that started in the space program.
>>
>>In some ways it is also symbolic of decline of what was once a great
>>nation.
>>
>>I hope we will realize what we are doing before we become just an
>>another of the many debit ridden countries that are trying to survive as
>>independent countries. A debit ridden nation that has a first lady who
>>said the only time she was proud to be an American was when her husband
>>became president.
>
>Very well said, especially your last paragraph.
+1
--
Energy and persistence alter all things.
--Benjamin Franklin
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> The space shuttle, Endeavor, all 65 tons, 78 ft wing span, and some
> 120 ft long, is on the move.
>
> This time down the streets of Los Angeles from LAX to her final
> resting
> place, about 12 miles away.
What is the destination?
>
> Traveling at no more than 2 miles/hour, it is going to take awhile.
>
> Quite a logistics accomplishment, considering the clearances are down
> to about 12 inches in some places.
>
> It's quite a sight in real time.
>
> Lew
>
>
>
On 10/12/2012 7:00 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Bill" wrote:
>
>>
>> What is the destination?
>>
> --------------------------
> The California Science Center
>
> Lew
>
>
>
It is one of the saddest days of my life to see the symbolic end of the
US space program. In the fifties and sixties as kids we were sure we
would always be first, as the space program represented to us that this
country could do anything, and except for Sputnik we did. Now the US
has to stand by the side of the space road thumbing a ride into space.
All of the technical advances that have enter mainstream from the space
programs are ending. Things like the Laser surgeries that they are
doing routinely today, which we would not have without the initial work
in President Reagan Starwar programs. Everything from advances in
medicine to Tang. The space program was the central point in the
federal research program, and there are millions of things that we think
of necessities today that started in the space program.
In some ways it is also symbolic of decline of what was once a great
nation.
I hope we will realize what we are doing before we become just an
another of the many debit ridden countries that are trying to survive as
independent countries. A debit ridden nation that has a first lady who
said the only time she was proud to be an American was when her husband
became president.
On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:26:20 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 10/13/2012 9:39 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 14:59:37 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/13/2012 1:15 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 08:04:58 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/12/2012 11:43 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 23:26:50 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/12/2012 4:52 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>>>>>> The space shuttle, Endeavor, all 65 tons, 78 ft wing span, and some
>>>>>>>> 120 ft long, is on the move.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This time down the streets of Los Angeles from LAX to her final
>>>>>>>> resting
>>>>>>>> place, about 12 miles away.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Traveling at no more than 2 miles/hour, it is going to take awhile.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Quite a logistics accomplishment, considering the clearances are down
>>>>>>>> to about 12 inches in some places.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's quite a sight in real time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And a Texas built truck will be pulling it to its end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really, a Tundra? (I'll bet it could...on the flat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/shuttle-passes-obstacle-heads-toward-la-museum-075351657--finance.html
>>>>
>>>> Toyota couldn't ask for better advertising than that, could they?
>>>> <vbg>
>>>>
>>>> KCAL Ch9 in HelL.A. has some real babe announcers.
>>>>
>>>
>>> We have a pretty nice looking anchor at CH2 in Houston. But she traded
>>> brains for looks. http://dominiquesachse.tv/
>>
>> Hot, for an older woman. <g> Many good looking women fit that
>> trade-in mold.
>
>I think she was born in the 70's, I recall when she started with CH2 as
>the fumbling stumbling new kid back in the mid 90's. And I recall her
>still infamous quote, "The airplane skidded into a crash."
Ouch!
--
Experience is a hard teacher because she gives
the test first, the lesson afterwards.
-- Vernon Sanders Law
On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 11:10:09 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Richard" wrote:
>
>
>> I thought what he said was pretty interesting, Lew.
>> And right on all points.
>
>-------------------------------------------
>You are entitled to your misguided opinion.
>
>Lew
>
>
I'm shocked that you didn't call him a "pathetic bigot" like you have
so often done to those who disagree with you!
On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:59:10 -0500, Richard <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 10/13/2012 2:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 11:10:09 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Richard" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I thought what he said was pretty interesting, Lew.
>>>> And right on all points.
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------
>>> You are entitled to your misguided opinion.
>>>
>>> Lew
>>>
>>>
>> I'm shocked that you didn't call him a "pathetic bigot" like you have
>> so often done to those who disagree with you!
>
>
>That's because while we sometimes disagree, we still respect each other.
"Your misguided opinion" doesn't sound like he respects you.
On 10/13/2012 2:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 11:10:09 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Richard" wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I thought what he said was pretty interesting, Lew.
>>> And right on all points.
>>
>> -------------------------------------------
>> You are entitled to your misguided opinion.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>
> I'm shocked that you didn't call him a "pathetic bigot" like you have
> so often done to those who disagree with you!
That's because while we sometimes disagree, we still respect each other.
On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:05:20 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> We have a pretty nice looking anchor at CH2 in Houston. But she
>> traded brains for looks. http://dominiquesachse.tv/
>
>Shoot - she don't need no brains...
And sometimes, you just don't want them to have any brains.
On 10/14/2012 11:43 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:10:24 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/14/2012 2:33 AM, Bob Martin wrote:
>>> in 1540119 20121014 042620 Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think she was born in the 70's, I recall when she started with CH2 as
>>>> the fumbling stumbling new kid back in the mid 90's. And I recall her
>>>> still infamous quote, "The airplane skidded into a crash."
>>>
>>> What's wrong with that? Surely you can skid without crashing?
>>>
>> There was no crash to slid into. She used "crash" as an object rather
>> than an action.
>
> She DE-gerunded it? How crass!
>
>
>> Don't get me started on "over turned vehicle". Is over turning the same
>> thing as over steering??? Your turn a vehicle, can you under turn a
>> vehicle?
>
> No, you steer a vehicle, and have understeer and oversteer.
> You overturn (aka: FLIP) Beemers, Exploders, and other SUVs.
So you would be clueless if I mentioned that there was a wreck where a
vehicle turned over?
Over turned... over is used ad an adverb. Turned over, over is the
location. I am not buying it.
On 10/13/2012 6:45 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:59:10 -0500, Richard<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/13/2012 2:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
>>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 11:10:09 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Richard" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I thought what he said was pretty interesting, Lew.
>>>>> And right on all points.
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>> You are entitled to your misguided opinion.
>>>>
>>>> Lew
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I'm shocked that you didn't call him a "pathetic bigot" like you have
>>> so often done to those who disagree with you!
>>
>>
>> That's because while we sometimes disagree, we still respect each other.
>
> "Your misguided opinion" doesn't sound like he respects you.
Not a lot.