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Albert

27/08/2003 9:20 PM

Red Bellow wood

Hi there,

I wonder if anybody can show me a good web site where I might find the
info about many types of wood.

As I would like to know more about Red bellow wood, what type of wood is
it.
Is it soft, hard, can it be used for GF, etc. Is the color red, durable,
easy to work with, etc.

Thanks for the help.

Best regards,

Albert de Pauly


This topic has 3 replies

Pv

"P van Rijckevorsel"

in reply to Albert on 27/08/2003 9:20 PM

18/09/2003 8:27 PM

Tony Morgan <[email protected]> schreef
> A little.

> Many timbers have "local" names. The name Bellau is the French name for
Bengkirai, a type of teak sourced today from Indonesia. Strictly
speaking Bellau is the same as Bengkirai, but from Vietnam (French
Indochina) - though AFAIK Vietnam doesn't export timber and hasn't for
decades since the "timberlands" are all in North Vietnam.

> Bengkirai comes from Indonesia in two (sub) types, yellow and red. The
yellow variety isn't yellow at all, just less rich in colour than the
red.

> Being in the teak family, Bengkirai has the same durability are working
characteristics as any other teak. Often (and usually) any product
manufactured from Bengkirai is marketed simply as "teak" - which of
course it is. Bengkirai is used extensively in the production of "teak"
plywood and teak-veneered products.

> --
> Tony Morgan
Your enemy is never a villain in his own eyes. Keep this in mind,
it may offer a way to make him your friend.
If not, you can kill him without hate - and quickly.

+ + +
This is a pretty neat bit of wood illiteracy - deserves to be framed ;-)

Firstly it has nothing to do with teak. It is closer related to, say,
cabbages and mustard than to teak. Meranti (lauan), red balau and balau are
part of the same genus, which counts some 350 species. To make it easier
some woods from closely related genera are thrown in in each of these trade
groups ;-)

I would not know about North Vietnam, it may occur there (just, it occurs in
Indochina and I would guess this includes South Vietnam and excludes North
Vietnam?). Typically it comes from Malaysia, Borneo, Sumatra, the
Philippines.

Balau is the international standard name, AFAIK from Malay origin. Red balau
is the international standard name, and obviously English in origin.

Red balau is a lot better in quality than dark red meranti, but less than
balau. Bangkirai is a selection from the balau group.
PvR

PS: put in wreck terms: if you take Philippine mahogany, mentally make it
two to three times as heavy, with a boost in other properties to match, you
will have red balau.

PS II: for anybody who speaks Dutch, as apparently the OP does, this is a
no-brainer. Any Dutch-speaker visiting any Dutch public library (or
technical bookstore) and asking for a book on wood will have the answer to
this question before he can really start looking. Easier than pie.













TM

Tony Morgan

in reply to Albert on 27/08/2003 9:20 PM

29/08/2003 10:01 PM

In message <[email protected]>, Albert
<[email protected]> writes
>Dear Tony,
>
>Thanks for the answer but i made a spelling Error. It should be Red Ballau
>instead of Bellow. It seems to be used for Garden Furniture but I cannot
>find anything usefull with www.Google.com.
>
>Do you know more about this one?

A little.

Many timbers have "local" names. The name Bellau is the French name for
Bengkirai, a type of teak sourced today from Indonesia. Strictly
speaking Bellau is the same as Bengkirai, but from Vietnam (French
Indochina) - though AFAIK Vietnam doesn't export timber and hasn't for
decades since the "timberlands" are all in North Vietnam.

Bengkirai comes from Indonesia in two (sub) types, yellow and red. The
yellow variety isn't yellow at all, just less rich in colour than the
red.

Being in the teak family, Bengkirai has the same durability are working
characteristics as any other teak. Often (and usually) any product
manufactured from Bengkirai is marketed simply as "teak" - which of
course it is. Bengkirai is used extensively in the production of "teak"
plywood and teak-veneered products.

--
Tony Morgan
Your enemy is never a villain in his own eyes. Keep this in mind,
it may offer a way to make him your friend.
If not, you can kill him without hate - and quickly.

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to Albert on 27/08/2003 9:20 PM

18/09/2003 4:37 PM

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:20:06 GMT, Albert <[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi there,
>
>I wonder if anybody can show me a good web site where I might find the
>info about many types of wood.
>
>As I would like to know more about Red bellow wood, what type of wood is
>it.
>Is it soft, hard, can it be used for GF, etc. Is the color red, durable,
>easy to work with, etc.
>
>Thanks for the help.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Albert de Pauly

In Old Belleau Wood
by Jack H. Monninger

There's a card-game tonight in Old Belleau Wood...all men should
go...all mankind should!... There are German and French... there are
British and Poles...and they come from the graves... or so it is told
IN OLD BELLEAU WOOD!

French children have seen them... I wish you could... because they
play in a clearing ... somewhere in the wood! They all carry guns...
but they're too young to play... but they get together at the close of
each day
IN OLD BELLEAU WOOD!

Now... most disbelieve... what the children have said... for they know
that the soldiers who lie there are dead... but I know it's true...
for I've been where they play... and I found on the ground... this one
ace-of-spades...
IN OLD BELLEAU WOOD!

So come and believe... before it's too late... for maybe their gamble
is much, much too great...
IN OLD BELLEAU WOOD!

Yes, there's a card-game tonight
IN OLD BELLEAU WOOD!


Regards, Tom
Tom Watson - Woodworker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson


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