FINISH SPRAYING QUESTION

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:09:28 -0500 (EST), [email protected]
(T.) wrote:

> I've got a friend who isn't on the group. He wants to finish boxes
>with sprayed shellac. He's been brushing it on, up to now. He doesn't
>have a compressor, and spray unit. Partly because of lack of spare
>funds, and partely because he keeps getting these, "buy a zillion dollar
>one, it works best".
>
> So, he's thought about using a hand sprayer. Something along the
>lines of one of those spray cleaners, or plant misters, that would put
>out a fine mist, and something the alcohol wouldn't affect, so he could
>just leave it in there, between jobs.
>

Ya know, JOAT, I haven't tried it but I would think that it would
"spit" funny on the piece.

The whole idea of sprayed finishes is spraying at a consistent
pressure and atomizing the finish into droplets in a consistent way.

The mister idea, I'm thinking, would spray pretty good during the
middle of the stroke on the trigger but would leave "spitters" at the
beginning and end of the finger stroke. In other words, you'd have
little gobs of finish that wouldn't level out right.

For things like small boxes, the wipe on method seems best to me.
It's fast and low-tech. There's no investment in machinery. the
corners might need to be dragged out with a brush, if the box is going
to be finished already assembled but you wouldn't have to worry about
tipping the thing off. You'd just want to get the finish into the
corner in a way the rag wouldn't do it.

If they are going to be finished before asssembly, the rag wipe would
be the definite way to go, for me.

Now, I'm mindful that O'Deen has often said that he doesn't care how
he gets the shellac onto the piece because he's going to "finish the
finish" down the road.

If you go along with that idea, then I might try a 1lb cut of shellac
in that spray bottle and see what happens.

Not much of a "direct experience" post, I know, but that's all I got.




Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson

well, just don't compare me to Cramer, ok? <g>

dave

Dave Balderstone wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>, Bay Area
> Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Dave, you know as well as I do that Mr. T, formerly known as JOAT, is
>>consistently inconsistent.
>
>
> You haven't been behaving any better. Pot. Kettle. Black.
>
> djb
>

Um...

To quote you, over and over and over....

Why doesn't he try it on a piece of scrap? He could answer the question
himself for $0.69 and a bit of intelligence.

djb

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Oh, yeah... forgot to mention...

Please quit trolling. I thought better of you.

djb

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In article <[email protected]>, Bay Area
Dave <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dave, you know as well as I do that Mr. T, formerly known as JOAT, is
> consistently inconsistent.

You haven't been behaving any better. Pot. Kettle. Black.

djb

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There are no socks in my email address.

"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"

"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:tWwtb.10452$%[email protected]...
> <SNIP>>
> Seriously, I think the results would be on a par with painting your
> Porsche with a chip brush; perhaps not quite as nice, actually.
>
<SNIP>

I agree with Bay Area Dave. I think that your friend would have problems
getting an even finish. I also suspect that the sprayer would clog, and the
end result would be a finish much worse that using a brush.

I suggest that your friend go back to using a brush and practice with really
thin shellac. I learned by switching to a good quality brush and starting
with about a .75 lb.cut of shellac. Over time I have increased the amount
of shellac, but never get near a 3 lb. cut.

Bob McBreen

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:31:05 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:


>
>Your friendly villiage idiot.

I still like ya'! <G>

Barry

it won't work

You can't do it.

I won't explain why.

I lack credibility.

I've confirmed what you've long suspected.

I'm worthless.

You're welcome.

Seriously, I think the results would be on a par with painting your
Porsche with a chip brush; perhaps not quite as nice, actually.

Help the economy along; buy a zillion dollar HVLP like I did.

Your friendly villiage idiot.



T. wrote:

> I've got a friend who isn't on the group. He wants to finish boxes
> with sprayed shellac. He's been brushing it on, up to now. He doesn't
> have a compressor, and spray unit. Partly because of lack of spare
> funds, and partely because he keeps getting these, "buy a zillion dollar
> one, it works best".
>
> So, he's thought about using a hand sprayer. Something along the
> lines of one of those spray cleaners, or plant misters, that would put
> out a fine mist, and something the alcohol wouldn't affect, so he could
> just leave it in there, between jobs.
>
> I had never thought of anything like that, but it sounds reasonable
> to me. I brush finishes on, and am quite satisfied with the results.
> However, it aroused my curiosity, and I have been checking the web about
> it, and no results. Yeah, I used google. With any combination of
> search words and phrases I could t hink of. Zip.
>
> I'm not using shellac at this time, but it does sound interesting
> for water-base poly, for some future projects.
>
> Before I get started on experimenting on my own, has anyone here
> tried this? If so, what did you use - that is, sprayer? And, what
> results did you get?
>
> I'm not asking about compressors and spray guns, so don't need any
> responses including those. All I'm asking about, and all I want to know
> about, is hand powered sprayers (whatever kind), finishes sprayed with
> them (whatever type), and results.
>
> If you've tried it and it didn't work, give details, lots of
> details. You lack credibility giving comments like, "it won't work", or
> "you can't do it", and not explaining why.
>
> I won't mention your name, you know who you are, and that your
> credibility is zero with me - you don't need to respond.
>
>
> JOAT
> Of course I don't think you're a complete idiot. Some parts are
> missing.
>
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> Web Page Update 15 Nov 2003.
> Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>

Dave, you know as well as I do that Mr. T, formerly known as JOAT, is
consistently inconsistent. <g>

dave

Dave Balderstone wrote:

> Um...
>
> To quote you, over and over and over....
>
> Why doesn't he try it on a piece of scrap? He could answer the question
> himself for $0.69 and a bit of intelligence.
>
> djb
>

or just wipe it on. I did my shop cabinets by wiping on shellac and
even a clueless newbie like myself got good results. It went on more
evenly than brushing.

dave

RWM wrote:

> "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:tWwtb.10452$%[email protected]...
>
>><SNIP>>
>>Seriously, I think the results would be on a par with painting your
>>Porsche with a chip brush; perhaps not quite as nice, actually.
>>
>
> <SNIP>
>
> I agree with Bay Area Dave. I think that your friend would have problems
> getting an even finish. I also suspect that the sprayer would clog, and the
> end result would be a finish much worse that using a brush.
>
> I suggest that your friend go back to using a brush and practice with really
> thin shellac. I learned by switching to a good quality brush and starting
> with about a .75 lb.cut of shellac. Over time I have increased the amount
> of shellac, but never get near a 3 lb. cut.
>
> Bob McBreen
>
>