I am trying to slice a 1"x8"x3' piece of walnut into a couple of
3/8"x8" boards. My bandsaw is a benchtop model that doesn't have a
wide enough opening. I tried to do this on my tablesaw by raising the
blade ad high as possible. It came close, and it was sorta awkward to
get an exact cut.
Any suggestions?
On Jan 21, 3:48=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/21/2013 2:39 PM, rlz wrote:
>
> > I am trying to slice a 1"x8"x3' piece of walnut into a couple of
> > 3/8"x8" boards. =A0My bandsaw is a benchtop model that doesn't have a
> > wide enough opening. =A0I tried to do this on my tablesaw by raising th=
e
> > blade ad high as possible. It came close, and it was sorta awkward to
> > get an exact cut.
>
> Years ago I used to resaw by starting on the table saw, with cuts on
> both sides as high as I was comfortable raising the blade, then go back
> through the kerfs with a good old fashioned handsaw ... you have some
> cleanup to do, with a plane, sander, but it is an effective, and safer
> way on some table saws.
7-1/4" framing blade is 1/16" kerf, ideal for making the starter
cuts.
Leaves a rough surface, but nothing a plane won't fix. I have a
shopmade frame saw and an old George Bishop crosscut saw,
both retoothed 5 pt rip with minimal set, for just this task.
On Monday, January 21, 2013 12:39:02 PM UTC-8, rlz wrote:
> I am trying to slice a 1"x8"x3' piece of walnut into a couple of 3/8"x8" =
boards. My bandsaw is a benchtop model that doesn't have a wide enough open=
ing. I tried to do this on my tablesaw by raising the blade ad high as poss=
ible. It came close, and it was sorta awkward to get an exact cut. Any sugg=
estions?
You could build a jig or tall fence to help hold the piec on edge at the TS=
. Run a kerf down both edges (indexing off the same face) as deep as possib=
le. Then finish with a hand saw.
I have done this even when I had a bandsaw deep enough but difficult wood t=
o resaw. Of course then I finish the last cut on the band saw anyway. Some =
guys resaw this way all the time. Actually faster usually. Use a thin kerf =
blade if you can on the TS it will waste less, be closer to the BS kerf and=
easier on the TS.
On Jan 22, 6:47=A0pm, [email protected] (Larry W) wrote:
> In article <[email protected].=
com>,
>
> rlz =A0<[email protected]> wrote:
> >I am trying to slice a 1"x8"x3' piece of walnut into a couple of
> >3/8"x8" boards. =A0My bandsaw is a benchtop model that doesn't have a
> >wide enough opening. =A0I tried to do this on my tablesaw by raising the
> >blade ad high as possible. It came close, and it was sorta awkward to
> >get an exact cut.
>
> >Any suggestions?
>
> It can be done with a tablesaw if the board is truly 1x8 and not actually
> 3/4" thick. You may want to attache a high fence to the fence, and make
> sure the blade, fence, etc. are set up as square and true as possible.
> Use good safety procedures when making the cut. Cut through one edge, the=
n
> the other, in increments if the saw bogs down. Use a hand saw to cut
> out the small center section that remains, then finish to width with
> a hand plane (or run through a planer if you have one) I've done
> it a few times for drawer sides and similar when I only needed a few piec=
es.
> If the walnut is scarce or pricey, you might want to refine your techniqu=
e
> on a piece of pine or something first.
>
> --
> =A0 =A0There are no stupid questions, but there are lots of stupid answer=
s.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonesta=
r. org
Thanks everyone for your replies. I will be playing in the shop this
weekend and giving it a try.
Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> Years ago I used to resaw by starting on the table saw, with cuts on
> both sides as high as I was comfortable raising the blade, then go back
> through the kerfs with a good old fashioned handsaw ... you have some
> cleanup to do, with a plane, sander, but it is an effective, and safer
> way on some table saws.
>
I saw a "how-to" video many years ago that suggested the same method,
except they completed the cut with the bandsaw instead of a hand saw. I'm
not really sure why they went through all the trouble, my bandsaw with a 1
HP has no trouble slicing through pieces as big as the opening.
Puckdropper
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Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 12:39:02 -0800 (PST), rlz <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I am trying to slice a 1"x8"x3' piece of walnut into a couple of
>3/8"x8" boards. My bandsaw is a benchtop model that doesn't have a
>wide enough opening. I tried to do this on my tablesaw by raising the
>blade ad high as possible. It came close, and it was sorta awkward to
>get an exact cut.
>
>Any suggestions?
Are there any cabinet shops, or other woodworking shops in your area?
For a small fee, maybe even free for this amount of work, they could
perform this task for you.
On 1/21/2013 2:48 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 1/21/2013 2:39 PM, rlz wrote:
>> I am trying to slice a 1"x8"x3' piece of walnut into a couple of
>> 3/8"x8" boards. My bandsaw is a benchtop model that doesn't have a
>> wide enough opening. I tried to do this on my tablesaw by raising the
>> blade ad high as possible. It came close, and it was sorta awkward to
>> get an exact cut.
>
> Years ago I used to resaw by starting on the table saw, with cuts on
> both sides as high as I was comfortable raising the blade, then go back
> through the kerfs with a good old fashioned handsaw ... you have some
> cleanup to do, with a plane, sander, but it is an effective, and safer
> way on some table saws.
>
That's the way I did it.
Then run it through the plainer for thickness.
>"rlz" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>I am trying to slice a 1"x8"x3' piece of walnut into a couple of
>3/8"x8" boards. My bandsaw is a benchtop model that doesn't have a
>wide enough opening. I tried to do this on my tablesaw by raising the
>blade ad high as possible. It came close, and it was sorta awkward to
>get an exact cut.
>
>Any suggestions?
It's not a very large board so if you have a rip handsaw it wouldn't be a
terrible job to simply resaw it with the handsaw....
Scribe double scribe lines (guide lines) around all the edges with a marking
gauge such that the space between the scribe lines is the location of the
desired saw kerf. Put the board in a vice angled such that you can see an
end and a long edge. Using both the end and edge scribe lines saw down until
the saw reaches the far corner of the end. Yes, you will be making an angled
cut and not cutting straight across the end of the board. Take the board our
of the vice and flip it around so that the unsawn corner of the board is now
facing you and again, using the scribe line, saw down until the saw reaches
the lower corner. Repeat... As you reach the last foot or so of board you
probably want to flip it end for end and repeat the process until the two
kerfs meet. The beauty of this approach is the kerf from each cut guides the
saw for the next cut so you only have to pay attention to one scribe line.
Once you understand the process it isn't too difficult. I showed my sons how
to do it when they were 7 and 9 years old. Though not specially showing them
resawing for thickness, there are some sample photos from a project they
made at the time at
http://www.midhudsonwoodworkers.org/Gallerypages/Otherpages/Grossbohlinother/grossbohlinothermain.htm
In the photos they are using a rip saw, jointer and smoothing planes,
marking gauge, Stanley 45 plough plane, shooting board and an L-N cross cut
back saw. It was this project that led me to get an L-N 5. The L-N 7 was way
to heavy and my grandfather's old Millers Falls No 22 (their equivalent of a
7) was still a lot of plane for them.
BTW, they were making picture frames for their grandmother. The frames held
their school pictures and were given as Christmas presents. The next spring
they entered the frames in Woodworkers Showcase in Saratoga Springs and won
2nd place in the youth category. Garret Hack was one of the judges and after
judging I showed him photos of the boys at work. He made a lot of favorable
comments to them. BTW, that is when they started getting higher level
ribbons than me... I only got an honorable mention in that show. ;~) I put
some photos up in ABPW.
The moral here is that once you understand the process it can be done!
John
>"rlz" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>I am trying to slice a 1"x8"x3' piece of walnut into a couple of
>3/8"x8" boards. My bandsaw is a benchtop model that doesn't have a
>wide enough opening. I tried to do this on my tablesaw by raising the
>blade ad high as possible. It came close, and it was sorta awkward to
>get an exact cut.
>
>Any suggestions?
It's not a very large board so if you have a rip handsaw it wouldn't be a
terrible job to simply resaw it with the handsaw....
Scribe double scribe lines (guide lines) around all the edges with a marking
gauge such that the space between the scribe lines is the location of the
desired saw kerf. Put the board in a vice angled such that you can see an
end and a long edge. Using both the end and edge scribe lines saw down until
the saw reaches the far corner of the end. Yes, you will be making an angled
cut and not cutting straight across the end of the board. Take the board our
of the vice and flip it around so that the unsawn corner of the board is now
facing you and again, using the scribe line, saw down until the saw reaches
the lower corner. Repeat... As you reach the last foot or so of board you
probably want to flip it end for end and repeat the process until the two
kerfs meet. The beauty of this approach is the kerf from each cut guides the
saw for the next cut so you only have to pay attention to one scribe line.
Once you understand the process it isn't too difficult. I showed my sons how
to do it when they were 7 and 9 years old. Though not specially showing them
resawing for thickness, there are some sample photos from a picture frame
project they
made at the time at
http://www.midhudsonwoodworkers.org/Gallerypages/Otherpages/Grossbohlinother/grossbohlinothermain.htm
In the photos they are using a rip saw, jointer and smoothing planes,
marking gauge, Stanley 45 plough plane, shooting board and an L-N cross cut
back saw. It was this project that led me to get an L-N 5. The L-N 7 was way
to heavy and my grandfather's old Millers Falls No 22 (their equivalent of a
7) was still a lot of plane for them.
BTW, they were making picture frames for their grandmother. The frames held
their school pictures and were given as Christmas presents. The next spring
they entered the frames in Woodworkers Showcase in Saratoga Springs and won
2nd place in the youth category. Garret Hack was one of the judges and after
judging I showed him photos of the boys at work. He made a lot of favorable
comments to them. BTW, that is when they started getting higher level
ribbons than me... I only got an honorable mention in that show. ;~) I put
some photos up in ABPW.
The moral here is that once you understand the process it can be done!
John
> On 1/21/2013 2:39 PM, rlz wrote:
>> I am trying to slice a 1"x8"x3' piece of walnut into a couple of
>> 3/8"x8" boards. My bandsaw is a benchtop model that doesn't have a
>> wide enough opening. I tried to do this on my tablesaw by raising the
>> blade ad high as possible. It came close, and it was sorta awkward to
>> get an exact cut.
I had to do that very thing today with some 10/4 stock for custom
corbels for a client's project, so I took some photos of the process:
~ Table Saw:
I had the band saw pulled out in the middle of the shop to rough cut the
corbels, but wanted a more precise thickness to match the corbels to the
trim without a lot of cleanup, so table saw it was.
The pieces were simply too short to safely resaw through on the table
saw in two passes, so I purposely left the middle strip for the hand saw
work.
https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopJigsFixturesMethods#5841526418584043154
~ Hand Saw:
Being short, a few strokes of a Shark and it was toast:
https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopJigsFixturesMethods#5841526995947341186
~ Cleanup with plane (My old Bailey #5):
https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopJigsFixturesMethods#5841527535854595538
Here's what I was after:
https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopPlaque#5841532573465125266
https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopPlaque#5841571171341008930
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KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
On Monday, January 21, 2013 2:48:15 PM UTC-6, Swingman wrote:
> On 1/21/2013 2:39 PM, rlz wrote:
>
> > I am trying to slice a 1"x8"x3' piece of walnut into a couple of
>
> > 3/8"x8" boards. My bandsaw is a benchtop model that doesn't have a
>
> > wide enough opening. I tried to do this on my tablesaw by raising the
>
> > blade ad high as possible. It came close, and it was sorta awkward to
>
> > get an exact cut.
>
>
>
> Years ago I used to resaw by starting on the table saw, with cuts on
>
> both sides as high as I was comfortable raising the blade, then go back
>
> through the kerfs with a good old fashioned handsaw ... you have some
>
> cleanup to do, with a plane, sander, but it is an effective, and safer
>
> way on some table saws.
>
>
>
> --
>
> eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com
>
> Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net
>
> https://plus.google.com/114902129577517371552/posts
>
> http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/
>
> KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
I have done it on a table saw as swingman described too. You need a good blade and some power but it works. Be careful and take it slow because the blade can bind and give you a kickback.
Ron
On Jan 21, 3:59=A0pm, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Monday, January 21, 2013 12:39:02 PM UTC-8, rlz wrote:
> > I am trying to slice a 1"x8"x3' piece of walnut into a couple of 3/8"x8=
" boards. My bandsaw is a benchtop model that doesn't have a wide enough op=
ening. I tried to do this on my tablesaw by raising the blade ad high as po=
ssible. It came close, and it was sorta awkward to get an exact cut. Any su=
ggestions?
>
> You could build a jig or tall fence to help hold the piec on edge at the =
TS. Run a kerf down both edges (indexing off the same face) as deep as poss=
ible. Then finish with a hand saw.
>
> I have done this even when I had a bandsaw deep enough but difficult wood=
to resaw. Of course then I finish the last cut on the band saw anyway. Som=
e guys resaw this way all the time. Actually faster usually. Use a thin ker=
f blade if you can on the TS it will waste less, be closer to the BS kerf a=
nd easier on the TS.
regarding building a jig, would an upside-down U shape cover for the
fence., with an adjustable L shape laying flat on top work to keep the
board staight up against the fence? I thinking that it would work in
conjunction with a featherboard as well.
B=3Dboard
F=3DFence
X=3DJig
s=3Dtop of the saw
X X X X X X X
X B X X X X
X B X F F X
B X F F X
B X F F X
B X F F X
ssssssssssssss
Thanks for the tip to use a thin kerf blade. I hadn't thought of
that. (not being sarcastic)
Robin
On 1/21/2013 2:39 PM, rlz wrote:
> I am trying to slice a 1"x8"x3' piece of walnut into a couple of
> 3/8"x8" boards. My bandsaw is a benchtop model that doesn't have a
> wide enough opening. I tried to do this on my tablesaw by raising the
> blade ad high as possible. It came close, and it was sorta awkward to
> get an exact cut.
Years ago I used to resaw by starting on the table saw, with cuts on
both sides as high as I was comfortable raising the blade, then go back
through the kerfs with a good old fashioned handsaw ... you have some
cleanup to do, with a plane, sander, but it is an effective, and safer
way on some table saws.
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KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
In article <[email protected]>,
rlz <[email protected]> wrote:
>I am trying to slice a 1"x8"x3' piece of walnut into a couple of
>3/8"x8" boards. My bandsaw is a benchtop model that doesn't have a
>wide enough opening. I tried to do this on my tablesaw by raising the
>blade ad high as possible. It came close, and it was sorta awkward to
>get an exact cut.
>
>Any suggestions?
It can be done with a tablesaw if the board is truly 1x8 and not actually
3/4" thick. You may want to attache a high fence to the fence, and make
sure the blade, fence, etc. are set up as square and true as possible.
Use good safety procedures when making the cut. Cut through one edge, then
the other, in increments if the saw bogs down. Use a hand saw to cut
out the small center section that remains, then finish to width with
a hand plane (or run through a planer if you have one) I've done
it a few times for drawer sides and similar when I only needed a few pieces.
If the walnut is scarce or pricey, you might want to refine your technique
on a piece of pine or something first.
--
There are no stupid questions, but there are lots of stupid answers.
Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org