On 23 May 2010 22:39:51 GMT, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Glad you asked. May 5 is the celebration of the surrender of the Germans
>in Holland at the end of WWII. A Canadian general, Foulkes, accepted the
>surrender in the town I grew up in, Wageningen.
Reading your post reminded me of my time in The Netherlands. I suspect
that properly pronouncing Wageningen is about like trying to pronounce
Scheveningen, which I was never able to do to much Dutch friends'
satisfaction.
We (my wife, 2 kids and I) lived for 3 1/2 years in Nootdorp ("Nut
Village" to most wreckers) about 5 clicks from Delft. The milkman also
delivered Grolsch beer, something that endeared him to me. My friends
in ND still send me 2 bottles of Genever each year, one Jonge, one
Oude. I learned early - never drink Genever and Pils with a Dutchman
while playing chess for 2 Guilders a game. It gets expensive. That I
learned in the bar at the Grand Hotel Krasnapolski in Amsterdam.
A fabulous people, a facinating country, great beer, good food (The
Dirty Nelly in Delft and Nieuwe Herring) for example). Both my kids
left ND chattering away in Dutch, which they learned on the streets.
They both are still reasonably fluent, morer so than I.
What more could one ask.
All the best Han and please excuse any mis-spellings. I haven't used
Dutch in 20 years.
Dag.
Tom
On May 23, 5:50=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Han" wrote:
> > Grolsch is OK. =A0Never really got the taste for jenever.
>
> -----------------------------------------
> When it come to suds from the land of wooden shoes, I'll take "Little
> Greenies", AKA: Heineken.
To me, as a former Quebecker, the Dutch greenie is "gros gin", AKA
DeKuyper, AKA Genever.
And no, you don't make G&Ts out of it. It is used in the sovereign
traditional qu=E9b=E9cois remedy for a bad cold - mix a generous portion
of Genever with lemon, honey, hot water & cinnamon (or was it nutmeg).
Bonne f=EAte =E0 Dollard. or is it Bonne f=EAte de la reine. ;-)
Luigi
On May 23, 7:05=A0pm, Tom B <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I learned early - never drink Genever and Pils with a Dutchman
> while playing chess for 2 Guilders a game.
You can't do that when playing chess with a Dane or a Portuguese
either!
"Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote in news:47ddfb4e-9da8-463e-bf81-
> [email protected]:
>
>> A client of mine gave me a couple of pounds of venison, the vandalia
>> onions the Shriners bring in every year are ready for pick up and I
>> have to feed some friends. Oh darn it all!
>>
>> So happy Vickkie Day !!
>
> My Vike day was May 5, when my sister Victoria had her birthday. You know
> that May 5 is a holiday in Holland ...
Stinko de Mayo?
Dave in Houston
Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote in news:47ddfb4e-9da8-463e-bf81-
[email protected]:
> A client of mine gave me a couple of pounds of venison, the vandalia
> onions the Shriners bring in every year are ready for pick up and I
> have to feed some friends. Oh darn it all!
>
> So happy Vickkie Day !!
My Vike day was May 5, when my sister Victoria had her birthday. You know
that May 5 is a holiday in Holland ...
Now busy preparing for Memorial Day down here in Jersey when we celebrate 2
birthdays in the family that fall close together.
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
On Mon, 24 May 2010 10:13:37 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>
>Elaborate please? This interests me a great deal on many levels.
There was a period in Quebec when the Parti Quebecois was
"vigourously" pursuing separation from the rest of Canada. Blowing up
mailboxes, abducting and killing folks who disagreed (e.g. Rene
Levesque if I remember correctly).
I was born and raised in Montreal, though both my parents were US
citizens. I am a graduate of Lachine High School and spoke French (OK,
French Canadian) on the street and English at home. My father, a
diplomat, had to remove the CD (Corps Diplomatique) plates from the
car for fear of being abducted. He had RCMP protection around the
house for a time as our next door neighbour was the Colonel Commanding
the Royal 22nd Regiment (the Van Doos). I was at Ga Tech during this
period but things were a bit tense back home. I'm glad things calmed
down.
Regards.
Tom
On May 24, 2:15=A0pm, Tom B <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 24 May 2010 10:13:37 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>
>
>
> >Elaborate please? This interests me a great deal on many levels.
>
> There was a period in Quebec when the Parti Quebecois was
> "vigourously" pursuing separation from the rest of Canada. Blowing up
> mailboxes, abducting and killing folks who disagreed (e.g. Rene
> Levesque if I remember correctly).
>
> I was born and raised in Montreal, though both my parents were US
> citizens. I am a graduate of Lachine High School and spoke French (OK,
> French Canadian) on the street and English at home. My father, a
> diplomat, had to remove the CD (Corps Diplomatique) plates from the
> car for fear of being abducted. He had RCMP protection around the
> house for a time as our next door neighbour was the Colonel Commanding
> the Royal 22nd Regiment (the Van Doos). I was at Ga Tech during this
> period but things were a bit tense back home. I'm glad things calmed
> down.
>
> Regards.
>
> Tom
I remember going for a job interview trying to make few sheckles for
school. The guy asked me if the offered wage was adequate and my reply
was "what can I expect for war-time help?" (This was during the time
of LaPorte's kidnapping and Prime Minister Trudeau proclaiming The War
Measures Act.) The guy had NO sense of ha-ha.
It showed some balls for the PM to do that. I kind of grew fond of
that obnoxious fuck, even though he was quite pink. (Nixon's tapes
mentioned his disdain for Trudeau "what an asshole!")
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On May 24, 2:15 pm, Tom B <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 24 May 2010 10:13:37 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>
>
>
> >Elaborate please? This interests me a great deal on many levels.
>
> There was a period in Quebec when the Parti Quebecois was
> "vigourously" pursuing separation from the rest of Canada. Blowing up
> mailboxes, abducting and killing folks who disagreed (e.g. Rene
> Levesque if I remember correctly).
>
> I was born and raised in Montreal, though both my parents were US
> citizens. I am a graduate of Lachine High School and spoke French (OK,
> French Canadian) on the street and English at home. My father, a
> diplomat, had to remove the CD (Corps Diplomatique) plates from the
> car for fear of being abducted. He had RCMP protection around the
> house for a time as our next door neighbour was the Colonel Commanding
> the Royal 22nd Regiment (the Van Doos). I was at Ga Tech during this
> period but things were a bit tense back home. I'm glad things calmed
> down.
>
> Regards.
>
> Tom
I remember going for a job interview trying to make few sheckles for
school. The guy asked me if the offered wage was adequate and my reply
was "what can I expect for war-time help?" (This was during the time
of LaPorte's kidnapping and Prime Minister Trudeau proclaiming The War
Measures Act.) The guy had NO sense of ha-ha.
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'Crats never do. The guy who told me my restrictions were for "life and
beyond" did not take kindly to my burst of laughter and question: "What are
you going to do, send somebody after me?"
"Dave In Texas" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> "Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:47ddfb4e-9da8-463e-bf81-
>> [email protected]:
>>
>>> A client of mine gave me a couple of pounds of venison, the vandalia
>>> onions the Shriners bring in every year are ready for pick up and I
>>> have to feed some friends. Oh darn it all!
>>>
>>> So happy Vickkie Day !!
>>
>> My Vike day was May 5, when my sister Victoria had her birthday. You
>> know that May 5 is a holiday in Holland ...
>
> Stinko de Mayo?
>
> Dave in Houston
Glad you asked. May 5 is the celebration of the surrender of the Germans
in Holland at the end of WWII. A Canadian general, Foulkes, accepted the
surrender in the town I grew up in, Wageningen.
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
On May 24, 3:32=A0pm, FrozenNorth <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On 5/24/10 3:18 PM, Tom B wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 24 May 2010 12:03:30 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
> > <[email protected]> =A0wrote:
>
> >>> There was a period in Quebec when the Parti Quebecois was
> >>> "vigourously" pursuing separation from the rest of Canada. Blowing up
> >>> mailboxes, abducting and killing folks who disagreed (e.g. Rene
> >>> Levesque if I remember correctly).
>
> >> I remember going for a job interview trying to make few sheckles for
> >> school. The guy asked me if the offered wage was adequate and my reply
> >> was "what can I expect for war-time help?" (This was during the time
> >> of LaPorte's kidnapping and Prime Minister Trudeau proclaiming The War
> >> Measures Act.) The guy had NO sense of ha-ha.
>
> >> It showed some balls for the PM to do that. I kind of grew fond of
> >> that obnoxious fuck, even though he was quite pink. (Nixon's tapes
> >> mentioned his disdain for Trudeau "what an asshole!")
>
> > You are quite correct, it was Pierre Laporte, Vice Premier and Minster
> > of Labour for the Province of Quebec, =A0who was abducted and killed by
> > the FLQ (Front de lib=E9ration du Qu=E9bec) in 1970. It was a bad time.
>
> Don't forget James Cross.
>
> --
> Froz...
>
> The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
Yes. TomB said it. Bad times indeed.
The FLQ did take heed when Trudeau said: "Watch me."
On Mon, 24 May 2010 12:03:30 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> There was a period in Quebec when the Parti Quebecois was
>> "vigourously" pursuing separation from the rest of Canada. Blowing up
>> mailboxes, abducting and killing folks who disagreed (e.g. Rene
>> Levesque if I remember correctly).
I was born in Montreal and lived there for my first 12 years, but
luckily for our family, my father was able too see what was coming. He
was doing well as an aeronautical engineer for Wright Aeronautical and
Pratt and Whitney, but even so, started going to school nights and
eventually got his accreditation as a school teacher in Math, History
and World Politics. We moved to Toronto in 1966 and managed to escape
what was coming in Quebec. He often commented that Rene Levesque drove
us out of Quebec.
On 5/24/10 3:18 PM, Tom B wrote:
> On Mon, 24 May 2010 12:03:30 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>> There was a period in Quebec when the Parti Quebecois was
>>> "vigourously" pursuing separation from the rest of Canada. Blowing up
>>> mailboxes, abducting and killing folks who disagreed (e.g. Rene
>>> Levesque if I remember correctly).
>>>
>
>>
>> I remember going for a job interview trying to make few sheckles for
>> school. The guy asked me if the offered wage was adequate and my reply
>> was "what can I expect for war-time help?" (This was during the time
>> of LaPorte's kidnapping and Prime Minister Trudeau proclaiming The War
>> Measures Act.) The guy had NO sense of ha-ha.
>>
>> It showed some balls for the PM to do that. I kind of grew fond of
>> that obnoxious fuck, even though he was quite pink. (Nixon's tapes
>> mentioned his disdain for Trudeau "what an asshole!")
>
> You are quite correct, it was Pierre Laporte, Vice Premier and Minster
> of Labour for the Province of Quebec, who was abducted and killed by
> the FLQ (Front de libération du Québec) in 1970. It was a bad time.
Don't forget James Cross.
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
On Mon, 24 May 2010 12:03:30 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> There was a period in Quebec when the Parti Quebecois was
>> "vigourously" pursuing separation from the rest of Canada. Blowing up
>> mailboxes, abducting and killing folks who disagreed (e.g. Rene
>> Levesque if I remember correctly).
>>
>
>I remember going for a job interview trying to make few sheckles for
>school. The guy asked me if the offered wage was adequate and my reply
>was "what can I expect for war-time help?" (This was during the time
>of LaPorte's kidnapping and Prime Minister Trudeau proclaiming The War
>Measures Act.) The guy had NO sense of ha-ha.
>
>It showed some balls for the PM to do that. I kind of grew fond of
>that obnoxious fuck, even though he was quite pink. (Nixon's tapes
>mentioned his disdain for Trudeau "what an asshole!")
You are quite correct, it was Pierre Laporte, Vice Premier and Minster
of Labour for the Province of Quebec, who was abducted and killed by
the FLQ (Front de libération du Québec) in 1970. It was a bad time.
Tom B <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 23 May 2010 22:39:51 GMT, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>Glad you asked. May 5 is the celebration of the surrender of the
>>Germans in Holland at the end of WWII. A Canadian general, Foulkes,
>>accepted the surrender in the town I grew up in, Wageningen.
>
> Reading your post reminded me of my time in The Netherlands. I suspect
> that properly pronouncing Wageningen is about like trying to pronounce
> Scheveningen, which I was never able to do to much Dutch friends'
> satisfaction.
>
> We (my wife, 2 kids and I) lived for 3 1/2 years in Nootdorp ("Nut
> Village" to most wreckers) about 5 clicks from Delft. The milkman also
> delivered Grolsch beer, something that endeared him to me. My friends
> in ND still send me 2 bottles of Genever each year, one Jonge, one
> Oude. I learned early - never drink Genever and Pils with a Dutchman
> while playing chess for 2 Guilders a game. It gets expensive. That I
> learned in the bar at the Grand Hotel Krasnapolski in Amsterdam.
>
> A fabulous people, a facinating country, great beer, good food (The
> Dirty Nelly in Delft and Nieuwe Herring) for example). Both my kids
> left ND chattering away in Dutch, which they learned on the streets.
> They both are still reasonably fluent, morer so than I.
>
> What more could one ask.
>
> All the best Han and please excuse any mis-spellings. I haven't used
> Dutch in 20 years.
>
> Dag.
>
> Tom
Grolsch is OK. Never really got the taste for jenever. I had a little
fling with single malt whisky, 18+ year old only, but my acod reflux did
that in. Now Hollandse nieuwe (haring), that is good stuff!
Supposedly the husband of a great-aunt was someone important before WWII
in Grand Hotel Krasnapolski, but that I never was in there for beer,
jenever or chess.
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
On May 24, 2:17=A0am, "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:5628220e-a978-40e8-9037-d4244f691dbc@t26g2000prt.googlegroups.com...
> On May 23, 5:50 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > "Han" wrote:
> > > Grolsch is OK. Never really got the taste for jenever.
>
> > -----------------------------------------
> > When it come to suds from the land of wooden shoes, I'll take "Little
> > Greenies", AKA: Heineken.
>
> To me, as a former Quebecker, the Dutch greenie is "gros gin", AKA
> DeKuyper, AKA Genever.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> There was a time when I was not allowed to travel in Quebec lest I be
> captured by Parti Quebecois ... Around 1982.
Elaborate please? This interests me a great deal on many levels.
"Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On May 23, 5:50 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Han" wrote:
> > Grolsch is OK. Never really got the taste for jenever.
>
> -----------------------------------------
> When it come to suds from the land of wooden shoes, I'll take "Little
> Greenies", AKA: Heineken.
To me, as a former Quebecker, the Dutch greenie is "gros gin", AKA
DeKuyper, AKA Genever.
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There was a time when I was not allowed to travel in Quebec lest I be
captured by Parti Quebecois ... Around 1982.
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On May 24, 2:17 am, "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:5628220e-a978-40e8-9037-d4244f691dbc@t26g2000prt.googlegroups.com...
> On May 23, 5:50 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > "Han" wrote:
> > > Grolsch is OK. Never really got the taste for jenever.
>
> > -----------------------------------------
> > When it come to suds from the land of wooden shoes, I'll take "Little
> > Greenies", AKA: Heineken.
>
> To me, as a former Quebecker, the Dutch greenie is "gros gin", AKA
> DeKuyper, AKA Genever.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> There was a time when I was not allowed to travel in Quebec lest I be
> captured by Parti Quebecois ... Around 1982.
Elaborate please? This interests me a great deal on many levels.
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I was doing contract work for NSA, CIA, and DIA at the time. The PQ had an
extremist wing and the US Government had a Paranoid Wing. I haven't done
anything of interest that way since 1994, but have restrictions for "life
and beyond".