THEY'RE HERE! 2011 DARWIN AWARDS
You've been waiting for them with bated breath, so without further ado,
here are the 2011 Darwin Awards.
Eighth Place
In Detroit , a 41-year-old man got stuck and drowned in two feet of water
after squeezing head first through an 18-inch-wide sewer grate to retrieve
his car keys.
Seventh Place
A 49-year-old San Francisco stockbroker, who "totally zoned when he ran",
accidentally jogged off a 100-foot high cliff on his daily run.
Sixth Place
While at the beach, Daniel Jones, 21, dug an 8 foot hole for protection
from
the wind and had been sitting in a beach chair at the bottom, when it
collapsed, burying him beneath 5 feet of sand. People on the beach used
their hands and shovels trying to get him out but could not reach him. It
took rescue workers using heavy equipment almost an hour to free him. Jones
was pronounced dead at a hospital..
Fifth Place
Santiago Alvarado, 24, was killed as he fell through the ceiling of a
bicycle shop he was burglarizing. Death was caused when the long flashlight
he had placed in his mouth to keep his hands free rammed into the base of
his skull as he hit the floor.
Fourth Place
Sylvester Briddell, Jr., 26, was killed as he won a bet with friends who
said he would not put a revolver loaded with four bullets into his mouth
and
pull the trigger.
Third Place
After stepping around a marked police patrol car parked at the front door,
a
man walked into H&J Leather & Firearms intent on robbing the store. The
shop
was full of customers and a uniformed officer was standing at the counter.
Upon seeing the officer, the would-be robber announced a hold-up and fired
a
few wild shots from a target pistol.
The officer and a clerk promptly returned fire, and several customers also
drew their guns and fired. The robber was pronounced dead at the scene by
Paramedics. Crime scene investigators located 47 expended cartridge cases
in
the shop. The subsequent autopsy revealed 23 gunshot wounds. Ballistics
identified rounds from 7 different weapons. No one else was hurt.
HONORABLE MENTION
Paul Stiller, 47, and his wife Bonnie were bored just driving around at 2
A.M. so they lit a quarter stick of dynamite to toss out the window to see
what would happen. Apparently they failed to notice that the window was
closed.
RUNNER UP
Kerry Bingham had been drinking with several friends when one of them said
they knew a person who had bungee-jumped from a local bridge in the middle
of traffic. The conversation grew more excited, and at least 10 men trooped
along the walkway of the bridge at 4:30 AM. Upon arrival at the midpoint of
the bridge, they discovered that no one had brought a bungee rope. Bingham,
who had continued drinking, volunteered and pointed out that a coil of
lineman's cable lay nearby. They secured one end around Bingham's leg and
then tied the other to the bridge. His fall lasted 40 feet before the cable
tightened and tore his foot off at the ankle. He miraculously survived his
fall into the icy water and was rescued by two nearby fishermen. Bingham's
foot was never located.
AND THE WINNER IS....
Zookeeper Friedrich Riesfeldt ( Paderborn , Germany ) fed his constipated
elephant 22 doses of animal laxative and more than a bushel of berries,
figs
and prunes before the plugged-up pachyderm finally got relief.
Investigators
say ill-fated Friedrich, 46, was attempting to give the ailing elephant an
olive oil enema when the relieved beast unloaded.
The sheer force of the elephant's unexpected defecation knocked Mr
Riesfeldt
to the ground where he struck his head on a rock as the elephant continued
to evacuate 200 pounds of dung on top of him. It seems to be just one of
those freak accidents that proves... 'Sh*t happens'
IT ALWAYS SEEMS IMPORTANT TO THANK THESE PEOPLE
FOR REMOVING THEMSELVES FROM THE GENE POOL.
--
Stuart Winsor
Only plain text for emails
http://www.asciiribbon.org
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 22:09:26 -0600, Leon wrote:
> On 2/29/2012 7:26 PM, HeyBub wrote:
>> Leon wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, you probably have the words down correctly, OTOH I do pretty
>>> good with the lines from Oh Brother Where art Thou, The George Conley
>>> movie.
>>
>> The only one I remember:
>>
>> " We thought you was a TOAD! "
>>
>>
>
> Mrs. Hogwaller up'n "R U N N O F T".
>
> We're in a tight spot.
>
> This place is a geological oddity, two weeks from every where.
>
> Mister, your money is coming unstolen.
>
> He's Bona fide.
>
> I got'a look out for me and mine.
>
> Any you boy's a smitty?
>
> Ob-stakle
>
> Gofer Everett?
>
> Hey Mister there is a feller in there that will pay you $10 for singing
> into a can.
>
I was in Tishomingo this last summer, couldn't find the place or the can
to sing into.
basilisk
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:00:03 -0800, "CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Three of those have been around for years. Good bet the rest of them were
>made up too.
Maybe. But it's a good bet that throughout the history of man and his
stupidity, that he has done worse.
"Mike Marlow" wrote:
> But... my point was intended to be more humorus. I was pointing to
> the shameful inefficiencies of our police forces in the US. Almost
> any weekend target shooter can out shoot a cop with his eyes closed.
> Not to mention that they handle their firearms better. Yet, we
> trust cops with guns...
----------------------------
You obviously don't know shit from shinola about the firearms training
required by police agencies in CA to become as well as maintain
firearms proficiencies.
Lew
Han wrote:
> Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Who knows, with the rapid militarization of even university and
>> transit police forces in this country, every little bit of advice
>> may come in handy one day ... even if the only option for most is to
>> duck.
>>
>> :(
>
> I like that emoticon. I truly regret the easy availability of
> firearms to people who are unqualified to use them. And I'll leave
> it at that.
Yeahbut - if we didn't put firearms into the hands of the unqualified, we
wouldn't have an armed police force...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 3/1/2012 5:31 PM, Richard wrote:
> On 3/1/2012 5:21 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Han wrote:
>>> Swingman<[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> Who knows, with the rapid militarization of even university and
>>>> transit police forces in this country, every little bit of advice
>>>> may come in handy one day ... even if the only option for most is to
>>>> duck.
>>>>
>>>> :(
>>>
>>> I like that emoticon. I truly regret the easy availability of
>>> firearms to people who are unqualified to use them. And I'll leave
>>> it at that.
>>
>> Yeahbut - if we didn't put firearms into the hands of the unqualified, we
>> wouldn't have an armed police force...
>>
>
> England doesn't have an armed police force.
> (Well it does, but not really)
>
> It's a whole different idea.
> A policeman that you can approach and he will help you.
> Novel!
Might be why Muslims run rampant over there.
Not saying that unarmed policemen is a bad thing but certainly a naive
thing.
"Swingman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On 3/1/2012 11:03 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Richard wrote:
>> On 3/1/2012 5:21 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> Han wrote:
>>>> Swingman<[email protected]> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> Who knows, with the rapid militarization of even university and
>>>>> transit police forces in this country, every little bit of advice
>>>>> may come in handy one day ... even if the only option for most is
>>>>> to duck.
>>>>>
>>>>> :(
>>>>
>>>> I like that emoticon. I truly regret the easy availability of
>>>> firearms to people who are unqualified to use them. And I'll leave
>>>> it at that.
>>>
>>> Yeahbut - if we didn't put firearms into the hands of the
>>> unqualified, we wouldn't have an armed police force...
>>>
>>
>> England doesn't have an armed police force.
>> (Well it does, but not really)
>>
>> It's a whole different idea.
>> A policeman that you can approach and he will help you.
>> Novel!
>
> Been to England in the past few years? Notice those guys at the airport
> when you deplane?
>
> But... my point was intended to be more humorus. I was pointing to the
> shameful inefficiencies of our police forces in the US. Almost any
> weekend
> target shooter can out shoot a cop with his eyes closed. Not to mention
> that they handle their firearms better. Yet, we trust cops with guns...
Irrefutable proof that _training_ is the most important factor in the
use and safety of firearms is the military.
Spent 13 months, 24/7, totally surrounded by folks armed to the teeth
and carrying all manner of "locked and loaded" firearms, and had to deal
with one firearm accident during that entire time. Happened in a newly
occupied clearing in triple canopy jungle, at 2AM, in a monsoon rain,
and the guy tripped and fell into a foxhole that hadn't been there the
last time he went that way to pee. Sometimes, shit happens.
This was with armies of two different nations, but both with excellent
training of formerly civilian, drafted personnel, an overwhelming
majority of whom had no prior experience with firearms.
Just one of the reasons why I'd like to see a military draft reinstated
in this country.
==============================================================================================
I agree about the draft but not for the firearm training. I was in the army
between 82 and 86. I was nervous every time I was on the firing range. They
instructed you to keep weapons pointed down range when you were on the
firing line but other than that, they didn't care what you did. There were
guys walking around dry firing their rifles at each other like it was a
game. No ammunition was issued on guard duty as they were afraid of an
accident. We once participated in a parade and were issued bayonets. We were
told, under threat of article 15, to keep them in the scabbard at all times.
They were to do nothing but hang on your belt. Even doing KP, you were not
allowed to handle anything sharp. The cooks had to wash their own knives.
Even the carrying of pocket knives was discouraged. My CO just about had a
coronary when he walked in one morning and saw me shaving with a strait
razor.
Swingman wrote:
>
> "Gun control" is indeed the key.
>
> As in a combat situation, it is most often not even necessary to
> initially hit your target. Returning sufficient fire, to make your
> target miss his, is the idea; then you can exercise proper "gun
> control" and proceed to take him out.
Take it away Karl! Gun control is the ability to ensure your bullets go
where you intend.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 2/29/2012 7:32 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 2/28/2012 5:22 PM, Stuart wrote:
>> THEY'RE HERE! 2011 DARWIN AWARDS
>
>>
>>
>> Third Place
>>
>> After stepping around a marked police patrol car parked at the front
>> door,
>> a
>> man walked into H&J Leather& Firearms intent on robbing the store. The
>> shop
>> was full of customers and a uniformed officer was standing at the
>> counter.
>> Upon seeing the officer, the would-be robber announced a hold-up and
>> fired
>> a
>> few wild shots from a target pistol.
>>
>> The officer and a clerk promptly returned fire, and several customers
>> also
>> drew their guns and fired. The robber was pronounced dead at the scene by
>> Paramedics. Crime scene investigators located 47 expended cartridge cases
>> in
>> the shop. The subsequent autopsy revealed 23 gunshot wounds. Ballistics
>> identified rounds from 7 different weapons. No one else was hurt.
>
>
>
> I am not for gun control but if this is the truth I can see why some
> people think that there should be.
>
> At least 7 people shooting, half of the rounds missed the target. There
> must have been more injuries that the suspect.
"Gun control" is indeed the key.
As in a combat situation, it is most often not even necessary to
initially hit your target. Returning sufficient fire, to make your
target miss his, is the idea; then you can exercise proper "gun control"
and proceed to take him out.
--
www.eWoodShop.com
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
http://gplus.to/eWoodShop
On 2/29/2012 8:29 AM, Doug Miller wrote:
> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On 2/28/2012 5:22 PM, Stuart wrote:
>>> THEY'RE HERE! 2011 DARWIN AWARDS
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Third Place
>>>
>>> After stepping around a marked police patrol car parked at the front door, a
>>> man walked into H&J Leather& Firearms intent on robbing the store. The shop
>>> was full of customers and a uniformed officer was standing at the counter.
>>> Upon seeing the officer, the would-be robber announced a hold-up and fired
>>> a few wild shots from a target pistol.
>>>
>>> The officer and a clerk promptly returned fire, and several customers also
>>> drew their guns and fired. The robber was pronounced dead at the scene by
>>> Paramedics. Crime scene investigators located 47 expended cartridge cases
>>> in the shop. The subsequent autopsy revealed 23 gunshot wounds. Ballistics
>>> identified rounds from 7 different weapons. No one else was hurt.
>>
>> I am not for gun control but if this is the truth I can see why some
>> people think that there should be.
>
> It didn't happen exactly that way. As with many stories circulating around the 'net, this one's
> been "enhanced" for dramatic effect.
> http://www.snopes.com/crime/dumdum/gunshop.asp
And apparently the "truth" is almost as funny. Exploding boxes of ammo
with slugs all over the place.
Reminds me of the movie Broken Arrow when the bad guy, John Travolta's
character" asked the other bad guys to please not shoot the Nuclear device.
On 2/28/2012 5:22 PM, Stuart wrote:
> THEY'RE HERE! 2011 DARWIN AWARDS
>
>
> Third Place
>
> After stepping around a marked police patrol car parked at the front door,
> a
> man walked into H&J Leather& Firearms intent on robbing the store. The
> shop
> was full of customers and a uniformed officer was standing at the counter.
> Upon seeing the officer, the would-be robber announced a hold-up and fired
> a
> few wild shots from a target pistol.
>
> The officer and a clerk promptly returned fire, and several customers also
> drew their guns and fired. The robber was pronounced dead at the scene by
> Paramedics. Crime scene investigators located 47 expended cartridge cases
> in
> the shop. The subsequent autopsy revealed 23 gunshot wounds. Ballistics
> identified rounds from 7 different weapons. No one else was hurt.
I am not for gun control but if this is the truth I can see why some
people think that there should be.
At least 7 people shooting, half of the rounds missed the target. There
must have been more injuries that the suspect.
On 3/1/2012 5:21 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Han wrote:
>> Swingman<[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> Who knows, with the rapid militarization of even university and
>>> transit police forces in this country, every little bit of advice
>>> may come in handy one day ... even if the only option for most is to
>>> duck.
>>>
>>> :(
>>
>> I like that emoticon. I truly regret the easy availability of
>> firearms to people who are unqualified to use them. And I'll leave
>> it at that.
>
> Yeahbut - if we didn't put firearms into the hands of the unqualified, we
> wouldn't have an armed police force...
>
England doesn't have an armed police force.
(Well it does, but not really)
It's a whole different idea.
A policeman that you can approach and he will help you.
Novel!
"Swingman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On 3/2/2012 10:22 AM, CW wrote:
>
>
> "Swingman" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> On 3/1/2012 11:03 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Richard wrote:
>>> On 3/1/2012 5:21 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>>> Han wrote:
>>>>> Swingman<[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Who knows, with the rapid militarization of even university and
>>>>>> transit police forces in this country, every little bit of advice
>>>>>> may come in handy one day ... even if the only option for most is
>>>>>> to duck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :(
>>>>>
>>>>> I like that emoticon. I truly regret the easy availability of
>>>>> firearms to people who are unqualified to use them. And I'll leave
>>>>> it at that.
>>>>
>>>> Yeahbut - if we didn't put firearms into the hands of the
>>>> unqualified, we wouldn't have an armed police force...
>>>>
>>>
>>> England doesn't have an armed police force.
>>> (Well it does, but not really)
>>>
>>> It's a whole different idea.
>>> A policeman that you can approach and he will help you.
>>> Novel!
>>
>> Been to England in the past few years? Notice those guys at the airport
>> when you deplane?
>>
>> But... my point was intended to be more humorus. I was pointing to the
>> shameful inefficiencies of our police forces in the US. Almost any
>> weekend
>> target shooter can out shoot a cop with his eyes closed. Not to mention
>> that they handle their firearms better. Yet, we trust cops with guns...
>
> Irrefutable proof that _training_ is the most important factor in the
> use and safety of firearms is the military.
>
> Spent 13 months, 24/7, totally surrounded by folks armed to the teeth
> and carrying all manner of "locked and loaded" firearms, and had to deal
> with one firearm accident during that entire time. Happened in a newly
> occupied clearing in triple canopy jungle, at 2AM, in a monsoon rain,
> and the guy tripped and fell into a foxhole that hadn't been there the
> last time he went that way to pee. Sometimes, shit happens.
> This was with armies of two different nations, but both with excellent
> training of formerly civilian, drafted personnel, an overwhelming
> majority of whom had no prior experience with firearms.
> Just one of the reasons why I'd like to see a military draft reinstated
> in this country.
> ==============================================================================================
>
>
> I agree about the draft but not for the firearm training. I was in the
> army between 82 and 86. I was nervous every time I was on the firing
> range. They instructed you to keep weapons pointed down range when you
> were on the firing line but other than that, they didn't care what you
> did. There were guys walking around dry firing their rifles at each
> other like it was a game. No ammunition was issued on guard duty as they
> were afraid of an accident. We once participated in a parade and were
> issued bayonets. We were told, under threat of article 15, to keep them
> in the scabbard at all times. They were to do nothing but hang on your
> belt. Even doing KP, you were not allowed to handle anything sharp. The
> cooks had to wash their own knives. Even the carrying of pocket knives
> was discouraged. My CO just about had a coronary when he walked in one
> morning and saw me shaving with a strait razor.
--
www.eWoodShop.com
Let me guess, you weren't 11B? ;)
======================================================================
Nope. 63N/63E. Tank mechanic. The mechanics were far better than the tankers
but still scary. It's amazing what they will let in a loaded tank. I.Q.
requirements to be a tanker was a bit higher than a lug nut. Ever see an
accidental discharge of a 105 mm cannon. I have. Twice. Scary. One of them
was the old "I didn't' know it was loaded" excuse.
On 3/1/2012 6:17 AM, basilisk wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 22:09:26 -0600, Leon wrote:
>
>> On 2/29/2012 7:26 PM, HeyBub wrote:
>>> Leon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, you probably have the words down correctly, OTOH I do pretty
>>>> good with the lines from Oh Brother Where art Thou, The George Conley
>>>> movie.
>>>
>>> The only one I remember:
>>>
>>> " We thought you was a TOAD!"
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Mrs. Hogwaller up'n "R U N N O F T".
>>
>> We're in a tight spot.
>>
>> This place is a geological oddity, two weeks from every where.
>>
>> Mister, your money is coming unstolen.
>>
>> He's Bona fide.
>>
>> I got'a look out for me and mine.
>>
>> Any you boy's a smitty?
>>
>> Ob-stakle
>>
>> Gofer Everett?
>>
>> Hey Mister there is a feller in there that will pay you $10 for singing
>> into a can.
>>
> I was in Tishomingo this last summer, couldn't find the place or the can
> to sing into.
>
> basilisk
You might have been about 70 years late! LOL
On 2/29/2012 8:04 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 2/29/2012 7:32 AM, Leon wrote:
>> On 2/28/2012 5:22 PM, Stuart wrote:
>>> THEY'RE HERE! 2011 DARWIN AWARDS
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Third Place
>>>
>>> After stepping around a marked police patrol car parked at the front
>>> door,
>>> a
>>> man walked into H&J Leather& Firearms intent on robbing the store. The
>>> shop
>>> was full of customers and a uniformed officer was standing at the
>>> counter.
>>> Upon seeing the officer, the would-be robber announced a hold-up and
>>> fired
>>> a
>>> few wild shots from a target pistol.
>>>
>>> The officer and a clerk promptly returned fire, and several customers
>>> also
>>> drew their guns and fired. The robber was pronounced dead at the
>>> scene by
>>> Paramedics. Crime scene investigators located 47 expended cartridge
>>> cases
>>> in
>>> the shop. The subsequent autopsy revealed 23 gunshot wounds. Ballistics
>>> identified rounds from 7 different weapons. No one else was hurt.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am not for gun control but if this is the truth I can see why some
>> people think that there should be.
>>
>> At least 7 people shooting, half of the rounds missed the target. There
>> must have been more injuries that the suspect.
>
> "Gun control" is indeed the key.
>
> As in a combat situation, it is most often not even necessary to
> initially hit your target. Returning sufficient fire, to make your
> target miss his, is the idea; then you can exercise proper "gun control"
> and proceed to take him out.
>
You think that is what was going on in that embellished situation? LOL
On 3/1/2012 6:47 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 2/29/2012 8:04 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>> I am not for gun control but if this is the truth I can see why some
>>> people think that there should be.
>>>
>>> At least 7 people shooting, half of the rounds missed the target. There
>>> must have been more injuries that the suspect.
>>
>> "Gun control" is indeed the key.
>>
>> As in a combat situation, it is most often not even necessary to
>> initially hit your target. Returning sufficient fire, to make your
>> target miss his, is the idea; then you can exercise proper "gun control"
>> and proceed to take him out.
>>
>
> You think that is what was going on in that embellished situation? LOL
Nope ... just providing a bit of background for the vast majority who
have never been fired upon, except in a video game. :)
The accepted, military, way to survive incoming fire is to return same
as rapidly, and with as much firepower, as possible.
Who knows, with the rapid militarization of even university and transit
police forces in this country, every little bit of advice may come in
handy one day ... even if the only option for most is to duck.
:(
--
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Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
http://gplus.to/eWoodShop
On 2/29/2012 7:26 PM, HeyBub wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, you probably have the words down correctly, OTOH I do pretty
>> good with the lines from Oh Brother Where art Thou, The George Conley
>> movie.
>
> The only one I remember:
>
> " We thought you was a TOAD! "
>
>
Mrs. Hogwaller up'n "R U N N O F T".
We're in a tight spot.
This place is a geological oddity, two weeks from every where.
Mister, your money is coming unstolen.
He's Bona fide.
I got'a look out for me and mine.
Any you boy's a smitty?
Ob-stakle
Gofer Everett?
Hey Mister there is a feller in there that will pay you $10 for singing
into a can.
I don't want no FOP, I'm a Palm-aid man.
My daddy told me to wing any one with papers or from the bank.
Slaughtered this horse last week, it's start'n to tern.
We're the Soggy Bottom Boys
On 3/1/2012 11:03 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Richard wrote:
>> On 3/1/2012 5:21 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> Han wrote:
>>>> Swingman<[email protected]> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> Who knows, with the rapid militarization of even university and
>>>>> transit police forces in this country, every little bit of advice
>>>>> may come in handy one day ... even if the only option for most is
>>>>> to duck.
>>>>>
>>>>> :(
>>>>
>>>> I like that emoticon. I truly regret the easy availability of
>>>> firearms to people who are unqualified to use them. And I'll leave
>>>> it at that.
>>>
>>> Yeahbut - if we didn't put firearms into the hands of the
>>> unqualified, we wouldn't have an armed police force...
>>>
>>
>> England doesn't have an armed police force.
>> (Well it does, but not really)
>>
>> It's a whole different idea.
>> A policeman that you can approach and he will help you.
>> Novel!
>
> Been to England in the past few years? Notice those guys at the airport
> when you deplane?
>
> But... my point was intended to be more humorus. I was pointing to the
> shameful inefficiencies of our police forces in the US. Almost any weekend
> target shooter can out shoot a cop with his eyes closed. Not to mention
> that they handle their firearms better. Yet, we trust cops with guns...
Irrefutable proof that _training_ is the most important factor in the
use and safety of firearms is the military.
Spent 13 months, 24/7, totally surrounded by folks armed to the teeth
and carrying all manner of "locked and loaded" firearms, and had to deal
with one firearm accident during that entire time. Happened in a newly
occupied clearing in triple canopy jungle, at 2AM, in a monsoon rain,
and the guy tripped and fell into a foxhole that hadn't been there the
last time he went that way to pee. Sometimes, shit happens.
This was with armies of two different nations, but both with excellent
training of formerly civilian, drafted personnel, an overwhelming
majority of whom had no prior experience with firearms.
Just one of the reasons why I'd like to see a military draft reinstated
in this country.
--
www.eWoodShop.com
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
http://gplus.to/eWoodShop
On 3/2/2012 10:22 AM, CW wrote:
>
>
> "Swingman" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> On 3/1/2012 11:03 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Richard wrote:
>>> On 3/1/2012 5:21 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>>> Han wrote:
>>>>> Swingman<[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Who knows, with the rapid militarization of even university and
>>>>>> transit police forces in this country, every little bit of advice
>>>>>> may come in handy one day ... even if the only option for most is
>>>>>> to duck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :(
>>>>>
>>>>> I like that emoticon. I truly regret the easy availability of
>>>>> firearms to people who are unqualified to use them. And I'll leave
>>>>> it at that.
>>>>
>>>> Yeahbut - if we didn't put firearms into the hands of the
>>>> unqualified, we wouldn't have an armed police force...
>>>>
>>>
>>> England doesn't have an armed police force.
>>> (Well it does, but not really)
>>>
>>> It's a whole different idea.
>>> A policeman that you can approach and he will help you.
>>> Novel!
>>
>> Been to England in the past few years? Notice those guys at the airport
>> when you deplane?
>>
>> But... my point was intended to be more humorus. I was pointing to the
>> shameful inefficiencies of our police forces in the US. Almost any
>> weekend
>> target shooter can out shoot a cop with his eyes closed. Not to mention
>> that they handle their firearms better. Yet, we trust cops with guns...
>
> Irrefutable proof that _training_ is the most important factor in the
> use and safety of firearms is the military.
>
> Spent 13 months, 24/7, totally surrounded by folks armed to the teeth
> and carrying all manner of "locked and loaded" firearms, and had to deal
> with one firearm accident during that entire time. Happened in a newly
> occupied clearing in triple canopy jungle, at 2AM, in a monsoon rain,
> and the guy tripped and fell into a foxhole that hadn't been there the
> last time he went that way to pee. Sometimes, shit happens.
> This was with armies of two different nations, but both with excellent
> training of formerly civilian, drafted personnel, an overwhelming
> majority of whom had no prior experience with firearms.
> Just one of the reasons why I'd like to see a military draft reinstated
> in this country.
> ==============================================================================================
>
>
> I agree about the draft but not for the firearm training. I was in the
> army between 82 and 86. I was nervous every time I was on the firing
> range. They instructed you to keep weapons pointed down range when you
> were on the firing line but other than that, they didn't care what you
> did. There were guys walking around dry firing their rifles at each
> other like it was a game. No ammunition was issued on guard duty as they
> were afraid of an accident. We once participated in a parade and were
> issued bayonets. We were told, under threat of article 15, to keep them
> in the scabbard at all times. They were to do nothing but hang on your
> belt. Even doing KP, you were not allowed to handle anything sharp. The
> cooks had to wash their own knives. Even the carrying of pocket knives
> was discouraged. My CO just about had a coronary when he walked in one
> morning and saw me shaving with a strait razor.
Let me guess, you weren't 11B? ;)
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Mike Marlow" wrote:
> But... my point was intended to be more humorus. I was pointing to the
> shameful inefficiencies of our police forces in the US. Almost any
> weekend target shooter can out shoot a cop with his eyes closed. Not to
> mention that they handle their firearms better. Yet, we trust cops with
> guns...
----------------------------
You obviously don't know shit from shinola about the firearms training
required by police agencies in CA to become as well as maintain
firearms proficiencies.
===================================================================
I do. Most cops can't shoot.
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 2/28/2012 5:22 PM, Stuart wrote:
>> THEY'RE HERE! 2011 DARWIN AWARDS
>
>>
>>
>> Third Place
>>
>> After stepping around a marked police patrol car parked at the front door, a
>> man walked into H&J Leather& Firearms intent on robbing the store. The shop
>> was full of customers and a uniformed officer was standing at the counter.
>> Upon seeing the officer, the would-be robber announced a hold-up and fired
>> a few wild shots from a target pistol.
>>
>> The officer and a clerk promptly returned fire, and several customers also
>> drew their guns and fired. The robber was pronounced dead at the scene by
>> Paramedics. Crime scene investigators located 47 expended cartridge cases
>> in the shop. The subsequent autopsy revealed 23 gunshot wounds. Ballistics
>> identified rounds from 7 different weapons. No one else was hurt.
>
> I am not for gun control but if this is the truth I can see why some
> people think that there should be.
It didn't happen exactly that way. As with many stories circulating around the 'net, this one's
been "enhanced" for dramatic effect.
http://www.snopes.com/crime/dumdum/gunshop.asp
Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Who knows, with the rapid militarization of even university and transit
> police forces in this country, every little bit of advice may come in
> handy one day ... even if the only option for most is to duck.
>
>:(
I like that emoticon. I truly regret the easy availability of firearms to
people who are unqualified to use them. And I'll leave it at that.
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
On 2/29/2012 10:23 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:32:48 -0600, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/29/2012 8:29 AM, Doug Miller wrote:
>>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> On 2/28/2012 5:22 PM, Stuart wrote:
>>>>> THEY'RE HERE! 2011 DARWIN AWARDS
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Third Place
>>>>>
>>>>> After stepping around a marked police patrol car parked at the front door, a
>>>>> man walked into H&J Leather& Firearms intent on robbing the store. The shop
>>>>> was full of customers and a uniformed officer was standing at the counter.
>>>>> Upon seeing the officer, the would-be robber announced a hold-up and fired
>>>>> a few wild shots from a target pistol.
>>>>>
>>>>> The officer and a clerk promptly returned fire, and several customers also
>>>>> drew their guns and fired. The robber was pronounced dead at the scene by
>>>>> Paramedics. Crime scene investigators located 47 expended cartridge cases
>>>>> in the shop. The subsequent autopsy revealed 23 gunshot wounds. Ballistics
>>>>> identified rounds from 7 different weapons. No one else was hurt.
>>>>
>>>> I am not for gun control but if this is the truth I can see why some
>>>> people think that there should be.
>>>
>>> It didn't happen exactly that way. As with many stories circulating around the 'net, this one's
>>> been "enhanced" for dramatic effect.
>>> http://www.snopes.com/crime/dumdum/gunshop.asp
>>
>> And apparently the "truth" is almost as funny. Exploding boxes of ammo
>> with slugs all over the place.
>>
>> Reminds me of the movie Broken Arrow when the bad guy, John Travolta's
>> character" asked the other bad guys to please not shoot the Nuclear device.
>
> "How many times do I have to tell you? Please don't shoot at the
> thermonuclear weapons."
>
> I laughed so hard at that I got dizzy. Great movie, especially with
> Princess Daisy in it.<wink> I've thoroughly enjoyed Travolta's
> (later, post dipshit Disco), Mathis', and Slater's careers. They all
> do fun movies.
>
Yeah, you probably have the words down correctly, OTOH I do pretty good
with the lines from Oh Brother Where art Thou, The George Conley movie.
CW wrote:
> Nope. 63N/63E. Tank mechanic. The mechanics were far better than the
> tankers
> but still scary. It's amazing what they will let in a loaded tank. I.Q.
> requirements to be a tanker was a bit higher than a lug nut. Ever see an
> accidental discharge of a 105 mm cannon. I have. Twice. Scary. One of
> them
> was the old "I didn't' know it was loaded" excuse.
First off - you have to be careful in your replies. The reply to Swingman
above, appeared as part of a sig, so it does not automatically propogate
into someone else's reply-all. I pasted the above in and inserted the >.
Having said that - I fell off the damned couch over the comment about tanker
IQ and lug nuts. Don't do that again - it's a long fall while laughing.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 09:33:56 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 3/1/2012 11:03 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Richard wrote:
>>> On 3/1/2012 5:21 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>>> Han wrote:
>>>>> Swingman<[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Who knows, with the rapid militarization of even university and
>>>>>> transit police forces in this country, every little bit of advice
>>>>>> may come in handy one day ... even if the only option for most is
>>>>>> to duck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :(
>>>>>
>>>>> I like that emoticon. I truly regret the easy availability of
>>>>> firearms to people who are unqualified to use them. And I'll leave
>>>>> it at that.
>>>>
>>>> Yeahbut - if we didn't put firearms into the hands of the
>>>> unqualified, we wouldn't have an armed police force...
>>>>
>>>
>>> England doesn't have an armed police force.
>>> (Well it does, but not really)
>>>
>>> It's a whole different idea.
>>> A policeman that you can approach and he will help you.
>>> Novel!
>>
>> Been to England in the past few years? Notice those guys at the airport
>> when you deplane?
>>
>> But... my point was intended to be more humorus. I was pointing to the
>> shameful inefficiencies of our police forces in the US. Almost any weekend
>> target shooter can out shoot a cop with his eyes closed. Not to mention
>> that they handle their firearms better. Yet, we trust cops with guns...
>
>Irrefutable proof that _training_ is the most important factor in the
>use and safety of firearms is the military.
>
>Spent 13 months, 24/7, totally surrounded by folks armed to the teeth
>and carrying all manner of "locked and loaded" firearms, and had to deal
>with one firearm accident during that entire time. Happened in a newly
>occupied clearing in triple canopy jungle, at 2AM, in a monsoon rain,
>and the guy tripped and fell into a foxhole that hadn't been there the
>last time he went that way to pee. Sometimes, shit happens.
>
>This was with armies of two different nations, but both with excellent
>training of formerly civilian, drafted personnel, an overwhelming
>majority of whom had no prior experience with firearms.
>
>Just one of the reasons why I'd like to see a military draft reinstated
>in this country.
Not a draft, but boot camp for everyone. PE camp + weapons training.
And drug testing for all city/state/fed gov't employees, from the Prez
on down to the lowly clerk at the local city hall.
--
It is characteristic of all deep human problems that they are
not to be approached without some humor and some bewilderment.
-- Freeman Dyson
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Mike Marlow" wrote:
>
>> But... my point was intended to be more humorus. I was pointing to
>> the shameful inefficiencies of our police forces in the US. Almost
>> any weekend target shooter can out shoot a cop with his eyes closed.
>> Not to mention that they handle their firearms better. Yet, we
>> trust cops with guns...
> ----------------------------
> You obviously don't know shit from shinola about the firearms training
> required by police agencies in CA to become as well as maintain
> firearms proficiencies.
I sure do. I submit that you do not.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Richard wrote:
> On 3/1/2012 5:21 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Han wrote:
>>> Swingman<[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> Who knows, with the rapid militarization of even university and
>>>> transit police forces in this country, every little bit of advice
>>>> may come in handy one day ... even if the only option for most is
>>>> to duck.
>>>>
>>>> :(
>>>
>>> I like that emoticon. I truly regret the easy availability of
>>> firearms to people who are unqualified to use them. And I'll leave
>>> it at that.
>>
>> Yeahbut - if we didn't put firearms into the hands of the
>> unqualified, we wouldn't have an armed police force...
>>
>
> England doesn't have an armed police force.
> (Well it does, but not really)
>
> It's a whole different idea.
> A policeman that you can approach and he will help you.
> Novel!
Been to England in the past few years? Notice those guys at the airport
when you deplane?
But... my point was intended to be more humorus. I was pointing to the
shameful inefficiencies of our police forces in the US. Almost any weekend
target shooter can out shoot a cop with his eyes closed. Not to mention
that they handle their firearms better. Yet, we trust cops with guns...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
CW wrote:
>
> I agree about the draft but not for the firearm training. I was in
> the army between 82 and 86. I was nervous every time I was on the
> firing range. They instructed you to keep weapons pointed down range
> when you were on the firing line but other than that, they didn't
> care what you did.
That's a whole lot different than my experience. But I was in over a decade
ealier...
> There were guys walking around dry firing their
> rifles at each other like it was a game.
Can't say you are wrong in that, but I can say that I cannot believe it.
> No ammunition was issued on
> guard duty as they were afraid of an accident.
Some of us were really issued ammunition and were expected to use it.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 01 Mar 2012 19:50:25 GMT, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
>Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> Who knows, with the rapid militarization of even university and transit
>> police forces in this country, every little bit of advice may come in
>> handy one day ... even if the only option for most is to duck.
>>
>>:(
>
>I like that emoticon. I truly regret the easy availability of firearms to
>people who are unqualified to use them. And I'll leave it at that.
Others of us regret that our entire populace isn't trained on both
long and short weapons, as the Swiss and Israelis are.
LJ, who's reading a book on Krav Maga now, looking to it as a guide on
physical fitness. http://tinyurl.com/74o4lqc
--
...in order that a man may be happy, it is
necessary that he should not only be capable
of his work, but a good judge of his work.
-- John Ruskin
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 07:32:30 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 2/28/2012 5:22 PM, Stuart wrote:
>> THEY'RE HERE! 2011 DARWIN AWARDS
>
>>
>>
>> Third Place
>>
>> After stepping around a marked police patrol car parked at the front door,
>> a
>> man walked into H&J Leather& Firearms intent on robbing the store. The
>> shop
>> was full of customers and a uniformed officer was standing at the counter.
>> Upon seeing the officer, the would-be robber announced a hold-up and fired
>> a
>> few wild shots from a target pistol.
>>
>> The officer and a clerk promptly returned fire, and several customers also
>> drew their guns and fired. The robber was pronounced dead at the scene by
>> Paramedics. Crime scene investigators located 47 expended cartridge cases
>> in
>> the shop. The subsequent autopsy revealed 23 gunshot wounds. Ballistics
>> identified rounds from 7 different weapons. No one else was hurt.
>
>
>
>I am not for gun control but if this is the truth I can see why some
>people think that there should be.
>
>At least 7 people shooting, half of the rounds missed the target. There
>must have been more injuries that the suspect.
They must have all been cops or ex-cops. Civilians don't miss that
often. ;) And I'll bet the roofers and siding folks had a field day
with that place for the next month.
--
...in order that a man may be happy, it is
necessary that he should not only be capable
of his work, but a good judge of his work.
-- John Ruskin
In article <[email protected]>,
Stuart <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>THEY'RE HERE! 2011 DARWIN AWARDS
1996-1997, actually.
http://www.snopes.com/horrors/freakish/darwin06.asp
A surprising number of them are true.
Executive summary:
Guy drowns in sewer grate: true. Happened in 1996.
Guy jogs off of path: True, 1996
Guy buried alive: True, 1997
Bike shop burglar: False
Guy shoots himself: False
Guy killed robbing gun store: True, but not as described in article
Dynamite idiots: True, 1996. Both survived.
Bungee jumper: False
Zookeeper: False
--
-Ed Falk, [email protected]
http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:32:48 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 2/29/2012 8:29 AM, Doug Miller wrote:
>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> On 2/28/2012 5:22 PM, Stuart wrote:
>>>> THEY'RE HERE! 2011 DARWIN AWARDS
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Third Place
>>>>
>>>> After stepping around a marked police patrol car parked at the front door, a
>>>> man walked into H&J Leather& Firearms intent on robbing the store. The shop
>>>> was full of customers and a uniformed officer was standing at the counter.
>>>> Upon seeing the officer, the would-be robber announced a hold-up and fired
>>>> a few wild shots from a target pistol.
>>>>
>>>> The officer and a clerk promptly returned fire, and several customers also
>>>> drew their guns and fired. The robber was pronounced dead at the scene by
>>>> Paramedics. Crime scene investigators located 47 expended cartridge cases
>>>> in the shop. The subsequent autopsy revealed 23 gunshot wounds. Ballistics
>>>> identified rounds from 7 different weapons. No one else was hurt.
>>>
>>> I am not for gun control but if this is the truth I can see why some
>>> people think that there should be.
>>
>> It didn't happen exactly that way. As with many stories circulating around the 'net, this one's
>> been "enhanced" for dramatic effect.
>> http://www.snopes.com/crime/dumdum/gunshop.asp
>
>And apparently the "truth" is almost as funny. Exploding boxes of ammo
>with slugs all over the place.
>
>Reminds me of the movie Broken Arrow when the bad guy, John Travolta's
>character" asked the other bad guys to please not shoot the Nuclear device.
"How many times do I have to tell you? Please don't shoot at the
thermonuclear weapons."
I laughed so hard at that I got dizzy. Great movie, especially with
Princess Daisy in it. <wink> I've thoroughly enjoyed Travolta's
(later, post dipshit Disco), Mathis', and Slater's careers. They all
do fun movies.
--
...in order that a man may be happy, it is
necessary that he should not only be capable
of his work, but a good judge of his work.
-- John Ruskin
"Stuart" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
THEY'RE HERE! 2011 DARWIN AWARDS
You've been waiting for them with bated breath, so without further ado,
here are the 2011 Darwin Awards.
Eighth Place
In Detroit , a 41-year-old man got stuck and drowned in two feet of water
after squeezing head first through an 18-inch-wide sewer grate to retrieve
his car keys.
Seventh Place
A 49-year-old San Francisco stockbroker, who "totally zoned when he ran",
accidentally jogged off a 100-foot high cliff on his daily run.
Sixth Place
While at the beach, Daniel Jones, 21, dug an 8 foot hole for protection
from
the wind and had been sitting in a beach chair at the bottom, when it
collapsed, burying him beneath 5 feet of sand. People on the beach used
their hands and shovels trying to get him out but could not reach him. It
took rescue workers using heavy equipment almost an hour to free him. Jones
was pronounced dead at a hospital..
Fifth Place
Santiago Alvarado, 24, was killed as he fell through the ceiling of a
bicycle shop he was burglarizing. Death was caused when the long flashlight
he had placed in his mouth to keep his hands free rammed into the base of
his skull as he hit the floor.
Fourth Place
Sylvester Briddell, Jr., 26, was killed as he won a bet with friends who
said he would not put a revolver loaded with four bullets into his mouth
and
pull the trigger.
Third Place
After stepping around a marked police patrol car parked at the front door,
a
man walked into H&J Leather & Firearms intent on robbing the store. The
shop
was full of customers and a uniformed officer was standing at the counter.
Upon seeing the officer, the would-be robber announced a hold-up and fired
a
few wild shots from a target pistol.
The officer and a clerk promptly returned fire, and several customers also
drew their guns and fired. The robber was pronounced dead at the scene by
Paramedics. Crime scene investigators located 47 expended cartridge cases
in
the shop. The subsequent autopsy revealed 23 gunshot wounds. Ballistics
identified rounds from 7 different weapons. No one else was hurt.
HONORABLE MENTION
Paul Stiller, 47, and his wife Bonnie were bored just driving around at 2
A.M. so they lit a quarter stick of dynamite to toss out the window to see
what would happen. Apparently they failed to notice that the window was
closed.
RUNNER UP
Kerry Bingham had been drinking with several friends when one of them said
they knew a person who had bungee-jumped from a local bridge in the middle
of traffic. The conversation grew more excited, and at least 10 men trooped
along the walkway of the bridge at 4:30 AM. Upon arrival at the midpoint of
the bridge, they discovered that no one had brought a bungee rope. Bingham,
who had continued drinking, volunteered and pointed out that a coil of
lineman's cable lay nearby. They secured one end around Bingham's leg and
then tied the other to the bridge. His fall lasted 40 feet before the cable
tightened and tore his foot off at the ankle. He miraculously survived his
fall into the icy water and was rescued by two nearby fishermen. Bingham's
foot was never located.
AND THE WINNER IS....
Zookeeper Friedrich Riesfeldt ( Paderborn , Germany ) fed his constipated
elephant 22 doses of animal laxative and more than a bushel of berries,
figs
and prunes before the plugged-up pachyderm finally got relief.
Investigators
say ill-fated Friedrich, 46, was attempting to give the ailing elephant an
olive oil enema when the relieved beast unloaded.
The sheer force of the elephant's unexpected defecation knocked Mr
Riesfeldt
to the ground where he struck his head on a rock as the elephant continued
to evacuate 200 pounds of dung on top of him. It seems to be just one of
those freak accidents that proves... 'Sh*t happens'
=====================================================================
Three of those have been around for years. Good bet the rest of them were
made up too.