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"Bill"

13/08/2009 12:25 AM

Plane from auction


I went to an auction today and bought a small box of stuff labeled
"primitive tools" for $15. The plane is what I was most interested in from
the box, it is: (Stanley) Bailey, 9", seems to be in pretty good shape and
on the body it is stamped:

PAT-D
MAR-25-02
AUG-19 -02

It's my first "old plane" so I'm sorted of excited about it. The front knob
has a crack in it. But, other than that, the plane doesn't show much wear.
I thought it would be fun to clean it up. I am curious whether the markings
indicate whether this plane in anyway special (or older). Do they tell if
the plane is 100 years old?

If I can figure out how to use my wife's camera and get a picture up, I will
try to post a picture of some of the interesting artifacts that were in the
box.

Regards,
Bill (the same Bill from the recent workbench thread, just newby'ing
along...)


This topic has 9 replies

DN

David Nebenzahl

in reply to "Bill" on 13/08/2009 12:25 AM

12/08/2009 10:33 PM

On 8/12/2009 9:25 PM Bill spake thus:

> I went to an auction today and bought a small box of stuff labeled
> "primitive tools" for $15. The plane is what I was most interested in from
> the box, it is: (Stanley) Bailey, 9", seems to be in pretty good shape and
> on the body it is stamped:
>
> PAT-D
> MAR-25-02
> AUG-19 -02

That's a patent date, so you know your plane was made sometime after
that. Could be quite a few years after.


--
Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism

LZ

Luigi Zanasi

in reply to "Bill" on 13/08/2009 12:25 AM

12/08/2009 11:02 PM

On Aug 12, 9:25=A0pm, "Bill" <Bill_NOS...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I went to an auction today and bought a small box of stuff labeled
> "primitive tools" for $15. =A0The plane is what I was most interested in =
from
> the box, it is: (Stanley) Bailey, 9", seems to be in pretty good shape an=
d
> on the body it is stamped:
>
> PAT-D
> MAR-25-02
> AUG-19 -02
>
> It's my first "old plane" so I'm sorted of excited about it. The front kn=
ob
> has a crack in it. But, other than that, the plane doesn't show much wear=
.
> I thought it would be fun to clean it up. =A0I am curious whether the mar=
kings
> indicate whether this plane in anyway special (or older). Do they tell if
> the plane is 100 years old?
>
> If I can figure out how to use my wife's camera and get a picture up, I w=
ill
> try to post a picture of some of the interesting artifacts that were in t=
he
> box.
>
> Regards,
> Bill =A0 (the same Bill from the recent workbench thread, just newby'ing
> along...)

If it says Bailey, it's probably a Stanley. Check it out at Patrick's
blood and gore (http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan0.htm)

To date it, you could check out the Stanley Bench Plane dating page at
http://www.hyperkitten.com/tools/stanley_bench_plane/dating/

Have fun.

Luigi
http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan0.htm

bb

bridger

in reply to "Bill" on 13/08/2009 12:25 AM

18/08/2009 12:57 AM

get on over to http://www.sawmillcreek.org/forumdisplay.php?f=4 and
sign up. lots of good info there.

BB

"Bill"

in reply to "Bill" on 13/08/2009 12:25 AM

13/08/2009 12:42 AM

By the way, the plane doesn't say Stanley on it, so I presume now it's not.

Bill


"Bill" <Bill_NOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:h604ki028lt@news7.newsguy.com...
>
> I went to an auction today and bought a small box of stuff labeled
> "primitive tools" for $15. The plane is what I was most interested in
> from the box, it is: (Stanley) Bailey, 9", seems to be in pretty good
> shape and on the body it is stamped:
>
> PAT-D
> MAR-25-02
> AUG-19 -02
>
> It's my first "old plane" so I'm sorted of excited about it. The front
> knob has a crack in it. But, other than that, the plane doesn't show much
> wear. I thought it would be fun to clean it up. I am curious whether the
> markings indicate whether this plane in anyway special (or older). Do they
> tell if the plane is 100 years old?
>
> If I can figure out how to use my wife's camera and get a picture up, I
> will try to post a picture of some of the interesting artifacts that were
> in the box.
>
> Regards,
> Bill (the same Bill from the recent workbench thread, just newby'ing
> along...)
>

dn

dpb

in reply to "Bill" on 13/08/2009 12:25 AM

13/08/2009 6:08 PM

Larry Kraus wrote:
...
> This plane is probably not worth your time. Those patent dates
> indicate that the plane is only about seven years old. The crack in
> the knob is typical of the shoddy crap made these days. So is the fact
> that there was a "bug fix" a few months after the original patent. A
> true Bailey of a hundred years ago would not have cracked. Toss it...
>
>
>
>
>
> .... over here!


lol :)


--

TT

Tanus

in reply to "Bill" on 13/08/2009 12:25 AM

13/08/2009 8:32 PM

Larry Kraus wrote:
> "Bill" <Bill_NOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I went to an auction today and bought a small box of stuff labeled
>> "primitive tools" for $15. The plane is what I was most interested in from
>> the box, it is: (Stanley) Bailey, 9", seems to be in pretty good shape and
>> on the body it is stamped:
>>
>> PAT-D
>> MAR-25-02
>> AUG-19 -02
>>
>> It's my first "old plane" so I'm sorted of excited about it. The front knob
>> has a crack in it. But, other than that, the plane doesn't show much wear.
>> I thought it would be fun to clean it up. I am curious whether the markings
>> indicate whether this plane in anyway special (or older). Do they tell if
>> the plane is 100 years old?
>>
>> If I can figure out how to use my wife's camera and get a picture up, I will
>> try to post a picture of some of the interesting artifacts that were in the
>> box.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bill (the same Bill from the recent workbench thread, just newby'ing
>> along...)
>
> This plane is probably not worth your time. Those patent dates
> indicate that the plane is only about seven years old. The crack in
> the knob is typical of the shoddy crap made these days. So is the fact
> that there was a "bug fix" a few months after the original patent. A
> true Bailey of a hundred years ago would not have cracked. Toss it...
>
>
>
>
>
> ..... over here!
>
>
>

LOLOLOL. I just got hosed. I pressed Reply on Larry's post and was going
to tell Bill to take Luigi's advice, but then I saw how Larry ended his
post.

Very creative.

Tanus

BB

"Bill"

in reply to "Bill" on 13/08/2009 12:25 AM

14/08/2009 6:56 AM


"Larry Kraus" wrote in message
>>
>> This plane is probably not worth your time. Those patent dates
>> indicate that the plane is only about seven years old. The crack in
>> the knob is typical of the shoddy crap made these days. So is the fact
>> that there was a "bug fix" a few months after the original patent. A
>> true Bailey of a hundred years ago would not have cracked. Toss it...

>> ..... over here!

If you are curious about my reaction, as I read the first sentence I became
suddenly disappointed. But the middle of the post had an air of BS about
it... and I was relieved when I got to the end! :)

Bill

LK

Larry Kraus

in reply to "Bill" on 13/08/2009 12:25 AM

13/08/2009 6:10 PM

"Bill" <Bill_NOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>I went to an auction today and bought a small box of stuff labeled
>"primitive tools" for $15. The plane is what I was most interested in from
>the box, it is: (Stanley) Bailey, 9", seems to be in pretty good shape and
>on the body it is stamped:
>
>PAT-D
>MAR-25-02
>AUG-19 -02
>
>It's my first "old plane" so I'm sorted of excited about it. The front knob
>has a crack in it. But, other than that, the plane doesn't show much wear.
>I thought it would be fun to clean it up. I am curious whether the markings
>indicate whether this plane in anyway special (or older). Do they tell if
>the plane is 100 years old?
>
>If I can figure out how to use my wife's camera and get a picture up, I will
>try to post a picture of some of the interesting artifacts that were in the
>box.
>
>Regards,
>Bill (the same Bill from the recent workbench thread, just newby'ing
>along...)

This plane is probably not worth your time. Those patent dates
indicate that the plane is only about seven years old. The crack in
the knob is typical of the shoddy crap made these days. So is the fact
that there was a "bug fix" a few months after the original patent. A
true Bailey of a hundred years ago would not have cracked. Toss it...





.... over here!


Rr

Roy

in reply to "Bill" on 13/08/2009 12:25 AM

15/08/2009 10:46 PM

On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:25:43 -0400, "Bill" <Bill_NOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>I went to an auction today and bought a small box of stuff labeled
>"primitive tools" for $15. The plane is what I was most interested in from
>the box, it is: (Stanley) Bailey, 9", seems to be in pretty good shape and
>on the body it is stamped:
>
>PAT-D
>MAR-25-02
>AUG-19 -02

First, not knowing what else is in the box, but assuming it is all in half decent condition, let me
just say you probably suck.

From this info, and Patrick B&G, and the Stanley Plane Dating Chart, it sounds like you are now the
proud owner of a Stanley #4 (smoothing plane, Jeff) Type 9 (1902-1907) or 10 (1907-1909).

>
>It's my first "old plane" so I'm sorted of excited about it. The front knob
>has a crack in it. But, other than that, the plane doesn't show much wear.
>I thought it would be fun to clean it up.

Quick, grab hold of something really solid. The slope just got real steep and it sounds like
somebody is greasing it up for you. If you think cleaning it up is fun, just wait until you hear
the damn thing make that magic Ssszzwicckkk sound and then you pick up a shaving about a thousandth
of an inch thick and look through it. All is lost at that point, and you start wondering why you
have so many things in the shop with electrical cords.


>I am curious whether the markings
>indicate whether this plane in anyway special (or older). Do they tell if
>the plane is 100 years old?
>
>If I can figure out how to use my wife's camera and get a picture up, I will
>try to post a picture of some of the interesting artifacts that were in the
>box.

Post 'em and generate some traffic in ABPW.
>
>Regards,
>Bill (the same Bill from the recent workbench thread, just newby'ing
>along...)
>

Regards,
Roy


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