> .... mix cigar or cigarette ashes with butter to make a paste; use the paste
> to clean the cabinet.
> Just a shot in the dark here, but isn't that basically the recipe for
> lye soap?
Robert Bunsen, the great chemist, smoked a lot of cigars. When Kirchoff and Bunsen were working with their spectroscope, they discovered an unusually high amount of potassium levels in their lab. It was from Bunsen's cigar ashes.
Butterfat is a mixture of triglycerides, which will undergo saponification with an alkali. So it's possible that a small amount of a potash soap could result.
> Any chemists care to comment?
I'm not a chemist, and I don't play one on TV.
On 1/19/14 10:42 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 1/18/14, 10:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Anonymous <[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand,
>>>> stain
>>>> and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his
>>>> beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head
>>>> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>>>
>>> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter
>>> -- everything will look the
>>> same in the end.
>>
>> That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart
>> attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor!
>>
>
> Well, I don't know. We may have accidentally stumbled upon a decent use
> for Bud lite. :-)
>
>
I thought the suggestion was to wipe down all boards with _beer_. Using
a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol probably is a poor
substitute for using beer.
-BR
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:58:02 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>EXT wrote:
>> "Anonymous" <[email protected]> wrote
>> in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand,
>>> stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he
>>> spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot
>>> rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>> Red oak - probably the worst wood you could spill any liquid onto. It
>> has tiny pores that run a long way through the wood along the grain,
>> these pores are hollow and will draw the liquid into the wood. Any
>> hand sanding will never remove the residue and sugars from the
>> spilled beer as they will be too deep in the pores. Power planing may
>> remove enough surface wood to expose unbeered wood. Either replace
>> the shelf or treat the entire board or project to a wash in beer to
>> make it finish evenly. Next time don't use any wood in its unfinished
>> state if you want to eventually finish it.
>
>This is good, but why a water and/or a water/soap wash not work? The water
>and/or the water/soap is going to infiltrate those fibers the very same way
>that the original beer spill did.
and wash the spilled beer out. - eventually.
I'd wash the poluted wood with methyl hydrate, flooding the surface,
then blotting it dry - several times.
In article <[email protected]>, Mike Marlow
<[email protected]> wrote:
much snippage
>
> Wow - all of this over a simple suggestion to wipe it down with water - and
> maybe a little soap? I've done both over decades with absolutely no
> problems. Can't understand how this is getting this big.
My first thought was "turn the board over"...
--
³Youth ages, immaturity is outgrown, ignorance can be educated, and drunkenness
sobered, but stupid lasts forever.² -- Aristophanes
On Monday, January 20, 2014 8:24:54 PM UTC-6, Markem wrote:
.=20
>=20
> Now Robert BEER was spilled!!!
>=20
>=20
> Mark
Well... I was trying to overlook the obvious, pointless tragedy. Had that =
been one of my friends that spilled his beer on a board, the question would=
have been "can anyone tell me what I need to do to get tongue marks off my=
shelf? It looks like the dog lapped this board dry. Will spit and drool r=
uin my finish later on?"
Robert
On Saturday, January 18, 2014 8:45:01 AM UTC-8, Anonymous wrote:
> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain
>
> and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his
>
> beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head
>
> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>
>
>
>
>
> --
Soak all boards in same beer. Let dry. Then stain and finish as you wish.
On Monday, January 20, 2014 10:58:02 AM UTC-6, Mike Marlow wrote:
=20
> This is good, but why a water and/or a water/soap wash not work? The wat=
er=20
>=20
> and/or the water/soap is going to infiltrate those fibers the very same w=
ay=20
>=20
> that the original beer spill did.
>
Wow... this thread is going from weird to surreal. Soon someone will sugge=
st that the piece be sent to a lab in Germany for testing, then treatment a=
t an undisclosed location using products that don't exist... or do they? T=
his is probably an pretty simple problem (but we don't know without details=
as the OP bugged out)and no extensive wood rehabilitation (really... board=
planing?) is needed. Surely there are others out there that have experien=
ce finishing/refinishing contaminated surfaces...
Water on a piece of oak might stain almost as much as the beer did. And ne=
ver use any soap in unsealed wood as it will leave a residue that is almost=
impossible to remove or seal over. Worse, the soap (which is most likely =
a surfactant of some sort) will simply redistribute the remaining dried par=
ticles over the area you are cleaning/washing.
Unless allowed to stand with a liquid on it, wood, even oak (don't panic ov=
er the tubules), absorbs very little liquid when exposed. I did some of my=
own experiments after reading how little penetration wood finishes get, an=
d was literally stunned at low little finish of any sort is absorbed by woo=
d. Whether the finish is thick or thin, the amount of surface penetration =
is probably nor more than a very few thousands at best. A simple spill is n=
ot different.
While we were not given any additional information to help with a better di=
agnosis, under normal circumstances it would be likely that the project had=
beer spilled on it and was immediately wiped down. If this is the case, t=
he remaining residue can be wiped off with mineral spirits and a porous rag=
, then after completely dry, a little sanding. Loosened particles that cont=
ain the last of the beer should be easily dusted away at this point, then a=
quick wipe with a rage moistened with mineral spirits should do the trick.
Robert
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 16:45:01 +0000, Anonymous
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain
>and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his
>beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head
>when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
I have several options to consider.
1. If the board was unfinished can you just turn it over and have the
un-spilled side become the good side?
2. If the board wasn't that big could you just make a new one?
3. Why not stain and poly the shelf when you get the time and see how
it looks before you panic?
4. You could go Lorena Bobbitt on him so he won't mess up the other
shelves.
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Anonymous <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain
>> and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his
>> beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head
>> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>
>Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter -- everything will look the
>same in the end.
That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart
attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor!
"Richard" wrote:
> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really
> matter -- everything will look the
> same in the end.
-------------------------------------
>> That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart
>> attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor!
------------------------------------
> Well, he could always drink it first...
-------------------------------------
Pat & Mike had been friends for many years, but it was getting to be
time
for Mike to cash in his hand and move along.
As Mike was lying on his death bed, his old friend Pat at his side, he
asked
Mike, "Mike my old friend, is there anything I can do for you?"
Mike said, "Not in this life, but after I'm gone there is a bottle of
Irish in me
closet. Would you mind sprinkling it on me grave?"
Pat thought for a minute then asked,
"Would you mind if I run it thru my kidneys first?"
Lew
On 01/19/2014 08:00 AM, willshak wrote:
> Richard wrote:
>> On 1/18/2014 11:15 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> Doug Miller wrote:
>>>> Anonymous<[email protected]> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand,
>>>>> stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he
>>>>> spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot
>>>>> rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>>>>
>>>> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter
>>>> -- everything will look the same in the end.
>>>
>>> That's one hell of a waste of good beer! I suppose you could use cheap
>>> beer - like maybe Utica Club...
>>>
>>
>> In Texas we would use a foreign beer for this job.
>>
>> Something like Budweiser or Miller.
>
> It's hard to find a beer brand that isn't owned by a foreign country.
> For an all-American brand that is family owned and brewed in Pottsville,
> PA, try Yuengling.
> They claim it is the oldest US brewery and Google seems to support that
> statement.
>
>
Can't get it west of the Mississippi :-(
Leinenkugle (Chippewa Falls, WI) is more available in the west.
--
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill
"Anonymous" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain
> and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his
> beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head
> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
Red oak - probably the worst wood you could spill any liquid onto. It has
tiny pores that run a long way through the wood along the grain, these pores
are hollow and will draw the liquid into the wood. Any hand sanding will
never remove the residue and sugars from the spilled beer as they will be
too deep in the pores. Power planing may remove enough surface wood to
expose unbeered wood. Either replace the shelf or treat the entire board or
project to a wash in beer to make it finish evenly. Next time don't use any
wood in its unfinished state if you want to eventually finish it.
On 01/22/2014 01:03 PM, Leon wrote:
> Personally I prefer my beers to be colder and my preference's are the
> stouts. I can hardly stand IPA's at any temperature. ;~)
>
>
>
I'm with you on that!
--
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill
On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 12:32:05 PM UTC-6, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Wow - all of this over a simple suggestion to wipe it down with water - and
>
> maybe a little soap? I've done both over decades with absolutely no
>
> problems. Can't understand how this is getting this big.
I am sensing your irritation level climbing, Mike. It's OK; we're just having a bit of fun now. This isn't about you.
Look at it this way: at least no one has tried to connect this thread to anything political yet.
Relax.
On Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:47:16 AM UTC-6, woodchucker wrote:
=20
> Try cleaning with oxalic acid before you stain.
>=20
> It will clean the wood and remove anything left.
> Jeff
Do you have personal experience using that method?
You realize of course, that when you bleach out the stain with the acid, it=
won't discriminate between the stained areas and the unstained areas, righ=
t? So cleaning the area will lighten that one area on the entire on the en=
tire project. This will be like using full strength Clorox to treat a spot=
on a black dress shirt.
The original poster should post more info about size and appearance of the =
stain, what kind of oak it is, and how the stain has been treated to this p=
oint before expecting an intelligent answer.
It is important to note that the OP never said there was any kind of stain =
to treat or deal with. For all we know, the beer was spilled and immediate=
ly wiped off and you can't even tell where the spill was.
Robert
On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 7:54:02 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
> Next up, perhaps the board should be sent up to the space station to see
>
> how it will clean up under zero gravity conditions.
Have no doubt, if it shows up on Google as posted by someone that swears they heard it from an expert, it will show up here!
Robert
On 1/18/2014 11:45 AM, Anonymous wrote:
> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain
> and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his
> beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head
> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>
Try cleaning with oxalic acid before you stain.
It will clean the wood and remove anything left.
Paint dept at big box store.
--
Jeff
On 1/20/2014 12:51 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Monday, January 20, 2014 10:58:02 AM UTC-6, Mike Marlow wrote:
>
>> This is good, but why a water and/or a water/soap wash not work? The water
>>
>> and/or the water/soap is going to infiltrate those fibers the very same way
>>
>> that the original beer spill did.
>>
>
> Wow... this thread is going from weird to surreal. Soon someone will suggest that the piece be sent to a lab in Germany for testing, then treatment at an undisclosed location using products that don't exist... or do they? This is probably an pretty simple problem (but we don't know without details as the OP bugged out)and no extensive wood rehabilitation (really... board planing?) is needed. Surely there are others out there that have experience finishing/refinishing contaminated surfaces...
>
> Water on a piece of oak might stain almost as much as the beer did. And never use any soap in unsealed wood as it will leave a residue that is almost impossible to remove or seal over. Worse, the soap (which is most likely a surfactant of some sort) will simply redistribute the remaining dried particles over the area you are cleaning/washing.
>
> Unless allowed to stand with a liquid on it, wood, even oak (don't panic over the tubules), absorbs very little liquid when exposed. I did some of my own experiments after reading how little penetration wood finishes get, and was literally stunned at low little finish of any sort is absorbed by wood. Whether the finish is thick or thin, the amount of surface penetration is probably nor more than a very few thousands at best. A simple spill is not different.
>
> While we were not given any additional information to help with a better diagnosis, under normal circumstances it would be likely that the project had beer spilled on it and was immediately wiped down. If this is the case, the remaining residue can be wiped off with mineral spirits and a porous rag, then after completely dry, a little sanding. Loosened particles that contain the last of the beer should be easily dusted away at this point, then a quick wipe with a rage moistened with mineral spirits should do the trick.
>
> Robert
>
Next up, perhaps the board should be sent up to the space station to see
how it will clean up under zero gravity conditions.
Anonymous <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain
> and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his
> beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head
> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter -- everything will look the
same in the end.
On 1/22/2014 7:53 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 19:47:57 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/22/14, 2:03 PM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 1/22/2014 12:55 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>> On 1/22/14, 12:34 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>> On 1/22/2014 10:33 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/22/14, 8:54 AM, jo4hn wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/20/2014 9:02 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/20/14, 9:23 AM, Brewster wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 1/19/14 10:42 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/18/14, 10:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sand,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stain
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he
>>>>>>>>>>>>> spilled
>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>>> beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ugly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> head
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really
>>>>>>>>>>>> matter
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- everything will look the
>>>>>>>>>>>> same in the end.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart
>>>>>>>>>>> attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, I don't know. We may have accidentally stumbled upon a
>>>>>>>>>> decent
>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>> for Bud lite. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I thought the suggestion was to wipe down all boards with _beer_.
>>>>>>>>> Using
>>>>>>>>> a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol probably is a
>>>>>>>>> poor
>>>>>>>>> substitute for using beer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -BR
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's the definition of Bud Lite. :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can kill the taste of Bud Lite if it's ice cold.
>>>>>>> :~\
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any time you see a beer ad bragging about how cold it is, that's sure
>>>>>> sign that the manufacturer doesn't want to knowing what it really
>>>>>> tastes
>>>>>> like. Any craft beer connoisseur knows that you cannot taste the
>>>>>> flavors
>>>>>> in a beer that is "ice cold!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Your statement might be a little broad.
>>>>>
>>>>> Craft beer or not, it is the type/style of beer that dictates the
>>>>> serving temperature. Some beers are supposed to be served cold, some
>>>>> not.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting info..
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ratebeer.com/Story.asp?StoryID=479
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you read your own link? :-p
>>>> They agree with me...
>>>> "Very cold (0-4C/32-39F): Any beer you dont actually want to taste.
>>>> Pale Lager, Malt Liquor, Canadian-style Golden Ale and Cream Ale, Low
>>>> Alcohol, Canadian, American or Scandinavian-style Cider."
>>>>
>>>> Repeat: "Any beer you dont actually want to taste."
>>>>
>>>
>>> Then I totally missed the point you might have been trying to make
>>> concerning the reference that beer served cold might not pass the taste
>>> test by a connoisseur.
>>>
>>> Basically not all beers are brewed with the intent for you to "taste the
>>> flavors". This does not mean that the beer is not good, only that
>>> perhaps you prefer beers that are intended to be served at warmer
>>> temperatures.
>>>
>>> Personally I prefer my beers to be colder and my preference's are the
>>> stouts. I can hardly stand IPA's at any temperature. ;~)
>>>
>>
>> My favorites cover both ends of that spectrum. I love a great imperial
>> Russian stout AND a really sweet, citrusy double IPA. I'm also pretty
>> fond of certain Old Ales and Wee Heavies.
> I'm no beer lover.Bear Whiz or Moose Piss I imagine would both taste
> similar, and the definitely sell Bear Whiz in Saulte St Marie - it
> even says so on the bottle.
>
I used to think the same, I always thought what is the point, there are
tastier ways to get a buzz. Then my son began introducing me to brands
that don't advertise on TV. A good beer does not have to bloat you with
that hoppy crap.
On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 19:47:57 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 1/22/14, 2:03 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 1/22/2014 12:55 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 1/22/14, 12:34 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>> On 1/22/2014 10:33 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>> On 1/22/14, 8:54 AM, jo4hn wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/20/2014 9:02 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/20/14, 9:23 AM, Brewster wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/19/14 10:42 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 1/18/14, 10:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to
>>>>>>>>>>>> sand,
>>>>>>>>>>>> stain
>>>>>>>>>>>> and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he
>>>>>>>>>>>> spilled
>>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>> beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its
>>>>>>>>>>>> ugly
>>>>>>>>>>>> head
>>>>>>>>>>>> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really
>>>>>>>>>>> matter
>>>>>>>>>>> -- everything will look the
>>>>>>>>>>> same in the end.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart
>>>>>>>>>> attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, I don't know. We may have accidentally stumbled upon a
>>>>>>>>> decent
>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>> for Bud lite. :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I thought the suggestion was to wipe down all boards with _beer_.
>>>>>>>> Using
>>>>>>>> a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol probably is a
>>>>>>>> poor
>>>>>>>> substitute for using beer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -BR
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's the definition of Bud Lite. :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can kill the taste of Bud Lite if it's ice cold.
>>>>>> :~\
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any time you see a beer ad bragging about how cold it is, that's sure
>>>>> sign that the manufacturer doesn't want to knowing what it really
>>>>> tastes
>>>>> like. Any craft beer connoisseur knows that you cannot taste the
>>>>> flavors
>>>>> in a beer that is "ice cold!"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your statement might be a little broad.
>>>>
>>>> Craft beer or not, it is the type/style of beer that dictates the
>>>> serving temperature. Some beers are supposed to be served cold, some
>>>> not.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Interesting info..
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ratebeer.com/Story.asp?StoryID=479
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Did you read your own link? :-p
>>> They agree with me...
>>> "Very cold (0-4C/32-39F): Any beer you dont actually want to taste.
>>> Pale Lager, Malt Liquor, Canadian-style Golden Ale and Cream Ale, Low
>>> Alcohol, Canadian, American or Scandinavian-style Cider."
>>>
>>> Repeat: "Any beer you dont actually want to taste."
>>>
>>
>> Then I totally missed the point you might have been trying to make
>> concerning the reference that beer served cold might not pass the taste
>> test by a connoisseur.
>>
>> Basically not all beers are brewed with the intent for you to "taste the
>> flavors". This does not mean that the beer is not good, only that
>> perhaps you prefer beers that are intended to be served at warmer
>> temperatures.
>>
>> Personally I prefer my beers to be colder and my preference's are the
>> stouts. I can hardly stand IPA's at any temperature. ;~)
>>
>
>My favorites cover both ends of that spectrum. I love a great imperial
>Russian stout AND a really sweet, citrusy double IPA. I'm also pretty
>fond of certain Old Ales and Wee Heavies.
I'm no beer lover.Bear Whiz or Moose Piss I imagine would both taste
similar, and the definitely sell Bear Whiz in Saulte St Marie - it
even says so on the bottle.
On 1/19/2014 9:00 AM, willshak wrote:
> Richard wrote:
>> On 1/18/2014 11:15 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> Doug Miller wrote:
>>>> Anonymous<[email protected]> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand,
>>>>> stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he
>>>>> spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot
>>>>> rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>>>>
>>>> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter
>>>> -- everything will look the same in the end.
>>>
>>> That's one hell of a waste of good beer! I suppose you could use cheap
>>> beer - like maybe Utica Club...
>>>
>>
>> In Texas we would use a foreign beer for this job.
>>
>> Something like Budweiser or Miller.
>
> It's hard to find a beer brand that isn't owned by a foreign country.
> For an all-American brand that is family owned and brewed in Pottsville,
> PA, try Yuengling.
> They claim it is the oldest US brewery and Google seems to support that
> statement.
>
>
That's what I'm sayin...
We drink Shiner Boch around here.
Spoetzl Brewery is a brewery located in Shiner, Texas, USA. The brewery
produces the popular line of Shiner Beers, including their flagship
Shiner Bock, a dark lager that is now distributed in 43 states. The
brewery is owned by The Gambrinus Company, a family-owned company in San
Antonio.
> Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head
I'm not sure.
> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
Try a test.
You might want to check this out:
https://charlesneilwoodworking.3dcartstores.com/Charles-Neils-Pre-Color-Conditioner--Blotch-Control_p_47.html
Treat the entire project with this ....
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:51:43 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Monday, January 20, 2014 10:58:02 AM UTC-6, Mike Marlow wrote:
>
>> This is good, but why a water and/or a water/soap wash not work? The water
>>
>> and/or the water/soap is going to infiltrate those fibers the very same way
>>
>> that the original beer spill did.
>>
>
>Wow... this thread is going from weird to surreal. Soon someone will suggest that the piece be sent to a lab in Germany for testing, then treatment at an undisclosed location using products that don't exist... or do they? This is probably an pretty simple problem (but we don't know without details as the OP bugged out)and no extensive wood rehabilitation (really... board planing?) is needed. Surely there are others out there that have experience finishing/refinishing contaminated surfaces...
>
>Water on a piece of oak might stain almost as much as the beer did. And never use any soap in unsealed wood as it will leave a residue that is almost impossible to remove or seal over. Worse, the soap (which is most likely a surfactant of some sort) will simply redistribute the remaining dried particles over the area you are cleaning/washing.
>
>Unless allowed to stand with a liquid on it, wood, even oak (don't panic over the tubules), absorbs very little liquid when exposed. I did some of my own experiments after reading how little penetration wood finishes get, and was literally stunned at low little finish of any sort is absorbed by wood. Whether the finish is thick or thin, the amount of surface penetration is probably nor more than a very few thousands at best. A simple spill is not different.
>
>While we were not given any additional information to help with a better diagnosis, under normal circumstances it would be likely that the project had beer spilled on it and was immediately wiped down. If this is the case, the remaining residue can be wiped off with mineral spirits and a porous rag, then after completely dry, a little sanding. Loosened particles that contain the last of the beer should be easily dusted away at this point, then a quick wipe with a rage moistened with mineral spirits should do the trick.
Now Robert BEER was spilled!!!
Mark
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 13:27:02 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Gordon Shumway wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:16:56 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Gordon Shumway wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Anonymous <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>> in news:[email protected]:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to
>>>>>> sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished.
>>>>>> Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will
>>>>>> the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in
>>>>>> the spring?
>>>>>
>>>>> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really
>>>>> matter -- everything will look the same in the end.
>>>>
>>>> That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart
>>>> attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor!
>>>
>>> Not Mike. You meant to say -Mike-. There is a difference...
>>
>> You're right. I'll try not to make that mistake again.
>
>Phew! That saves me a lot of explanations...
You can be my brother Mike, and he can be my other brother Mike... or
is it Darryl and Darryl?
On Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:45:01 AM UTC-6, Anonymous wrote:
> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain
>
> and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his
>
> beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head
>
> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>
>
>
>
>
> --
Old topic, but in case you're still around:
http://deadspin.com/one-weird-old-trick-to-remove-white-water-stains-from-w-1526958586
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:47:13 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 1/21/2014 1:50 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 12:32:05 PM UTC-6, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>
>>> Wow - all of this over a simple suggestion to wipe it down with water - and
>>>
>>> maybe a little soap? I've done both over decades with absolutely no
>>>
>>> problems. Can't understand how this is getting this big.
>>
>> I am sensing your irritation level climbing, Mike. It's OK; we're just having a bit of fun now. This isn't about you.
>>
>> Look at it this way: at least no one has tried to connect this thread to anything political yet.
>>
>> Relax.
>>
>
>
>I wunder whut Jimmy Carter would do? There now it is political. LOL
Billy Beer eh?
On 1/20/2014 9:02 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 1/20/14, 9:23 AM, Brewster wrote:
>> On 1/19/14 10:42 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 1/18/14, 10:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Anonymous <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand,
>>>>>> stain
>>>>>> and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled
>>>>>> his
>>>>>> beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly
>>>>>> head
>>>>>> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>>>>>
>>>>> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter
>>>>> -- everything will look the
>>>>> same in the end.
>>>>
>>>> That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart
>>>> attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I don't know. We may have accidentally stumbled upon a decent use
>>> for Bud lite. :-)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I thought the suggestion was to wipe down all boards with _beer_. Using
>> a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol probably is a poor
>> substitute for using beer.
>>
>> -BR
>>
>
> "a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol"
>
> That's the definition of Bud Lite. :-)
>
>
You can kill the taste of Bud Lite if it's ice cold.
:~\
>=20
> Old topic, but in case you're still around:
>=20
>=20
>=20
> http://deadspin.com/one-weird-old-trick-to-remove-white-water-stains-from=
-w-1526958586
Sometimes the Internet is just a fricking joke. Plus you are a bit off topi=
c here.
1. The OP had beer stains on raw oak. Not water marks on finished material =
like a glass ring on a table top.
2. Yes, it is a well known technique to remove the blush (white-ish water r=
ing) from finished table tops by employing an oil and some sort of carrier =
to allow the creation of friction (because oil on slick finish is too slick=
) and then by heating the surface by rubbing the oil displaces the water va=
por trapped in the finish (by osmosis I presume) and the water ring disappe=
ars. You will see tooth past and baby-oil, bannanas and salt, mayo and baki=
ng soda, etc as friction/oil combos.
3. That being said, the image on this internet post (linked) shows an oak b=
athroom cabinet with long term water damage with some calcification and or =
perhaps damaged film finish that looks white. The after picture shows that =
the abrasive action has simply sanded away the damaged finish for the most =
part and the thing still looks like shit and will look worse after they try=
to refinish over the partially sanded out area.
You are not the culprit here (Michael) I am pointing out how these fricking=
home help guru's and others of the sort try to share their in-depth knowle=
dge only to totally misunderstand a somewhat viable interesting solution an=
d just look like a total boob to anyone with a minimal damn brain.
My rant for the day. Thank you.
On 1/21/2014 1:50 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 12:32:05 PM UTC-6, Mike Marlow wrote:
>
>> Wow - all of this over a simple suggestion to wipe it down with water - and
>>
>> maybe a little soap? I've done both over decades with absolutely no
>>
>> problems. Can't understand how this is getting this big.
>
> I am sensing your irritation level climbing, Mike. It's OK; we're just having a bit of fun now. This isn't about you.
>
> Look at it this way: at least no one has tried to connect this thread to anything political yet.
>
> Relax.
>
I wunder whut Jimmy Carter would do? There now it is political. LOL
"Anonymous"
<[email protected]> wrote
in message
news:[email protected]
> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and
> cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them
> up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will
> sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head
> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
So what - if anything - is the visible result of the beer being spilled?
Beer being almost all water I doubt there is much of anything; possibly, a
water stain? If that is all, sanding should ne sufficient. Note: do NOT
use oxalic acid (or any other bleach).
Why do you want to stain the wood prior to varnishing?
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[email protected] wrote:
> On Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:47:16 AM UTC-6, woodchucker wrote:
>
>> Try cleaning with oxalic acid before you stain.
>>
>> It will clean the wood and remove anything left.
>
>> Jeff
>
> Do you have personal experience using that method?
>
> You realize of course, that when you bleach out the stain with the
> acid, it won't discriminate between the stained areas and the
> unstained areas, right? So cleaning the area will lighten that one
> area on the entire on the entire project. This will be like using
> full strength Clorox to treat a spot on a black dress shirt.
>
> The original poster should post more info about size and appearance
> of the stain, what kind of oak it is, and how the stain has been
> treated to this point before expecting an intelligent answer.
>
> It is important to note that the OP never said there was any kind of
> stain to treat or deal with. For all we know, the beer was spilled
> and immediately wiped off and you can't even tell where the spill
> was.
>
I'm not a beer drinker these days, though I certainly was in the past... but
I would think beer would clean up very well with just water - right now.
--
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[email protected]
On 1/18/14, 10:45 AM, Anonymous wrote:
> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain
> and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his
> beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head
> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>
Oh, I hope it wasn't expensive beer. :-)
--
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"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
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Doug Miller wrote:
> Anonymous <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand,
>> stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he
>> spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot
>> rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>
> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter
> -- everything will look the same in the end.
That's one hell of a waste of good beer! I suppose you could use cheap
beer - like maybe Utica Club...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Gordon Shumway wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Anonymous <[email protected]> wrote
>> in news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand,
>>> stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he
>>> spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot
>>> rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>>
>> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter
>> -- everything will look the same in the end.
>
> That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart
> attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor!
Not Mike. You meant to say -Mike-. There is a difference...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
"Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> On 1/18/2014 12:11 PM, dadiOH wrote:
>
> >
> > Why do you want to stain the wood prior to varnishing?
> >
> >
>
>
> Is that not your normal order?
I try to avoid stain preferring to use wood I like au natural rather than
trying to make a wood I don't much care for look like something else. The
lack of stain also eases any needed repairs should they become necessary in
the future.
Of course there are exceptions, one of them being when overall color is
important but the wood itself is not. For example, around here, "merlot" is
being championed by many furniture retailers. It is the gotta have color.
Why anyone wants their bedroom suite et al to look like wine I do not know
but strongly suspect it is for much the same reason that granite, volume
ceilings,tray ceilings and crown molding are also "gotta haves" :)
--
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____________________________
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Richard wrote:
> On 1/18/2014 11:15 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Doug Miller wrote:
>>> Anonymous<[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand,
>>>> stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he
>>>> spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot
>>>> rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>>>
>>> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter
>>> -- everything will look the same in the end.
>>
>> That's one hell of a waste of good beer! I suppose you could use cheap
>> beer - like maybe Utica Club...
>>
>
> In Texas we would use a foreign beer for this job.
>
> Something like Budweiser or Miller.
It's hard to find a beer brand that isn't owned by a foreign country.
For an all-American brand that is family owned and brewed in Pottsville,
PA, try Yuengling.
They claim it is the oldest US brewery and Google seems to support that
statement.
--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeros after @
On 1/18/14, 10:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Anonymous <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain
>>> and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his
>>> beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head
>>> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>>
>> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter -- everything will look the
>> same in the end.
>
> That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart
> attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor!
>
Well, I don't know. We may have accidentally stumbled upon a decent use
for Bud lite. :-)
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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Gordon Shumway wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:16:56 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Gordon Shumway wrote:
>>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anonymous <[email protected]> wrote
>>>> in news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to
>>>>> sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished.
>>>>> Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will
>>>>> the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in
>>>>> the spring?
>>>>
>>>> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really
>>>> matter -- everything will look the same in the end.
>>>
>>> That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart
>>> attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor!
>>
>> Not Mike. You meant to say -Mike-. There is a difference...
>
> You're right. I'll try not to make that mistake again.
Phew! That saves me a lot of explanations...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
-MIKE- wrote:
> On 1/18/14, 10:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Anonymous <[email protected]> wrote
>>> in news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to
>>>> sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished.
>>>> Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will
>>>> the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the
>>>> spring?
>>>
>>> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really
>>> matter -- everything will look the same in the end.
>>
>> That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart
>> attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor!
>>
>
> Well, I don't know. We may have accidentally stumbled upon a decent
> use for Bud lite. :-)
Not freakin' likely...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
EXT wrote:
> "Anonymous" <[email protected]> wrote
> in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand,
>> stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he
>> spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot
>> rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
> Red oak - probably the worst wood you could spill any liquid onto. It
> has tiny pores that run a long way through the wood along the grain,
> these pores are hollow and will draw the liquid into the wood. Any
> hand sanding will never remove the residue and sugars from the
> spilled beer as they will be too deep in the pores. Power planing may
> remove enough surface wood to expose unbeered wood. Either replace
> the shelf or treat the entire board or project to a wash in beer to
> make it finish evenly. Next time don't use any wood in its unfinished
> state if you want to eventually finish it.
This is good, but why a water and/or a water/soap wash not work? The water
and/or the water/soap is going to infiltrate those fibers the very same way
that the original beer spill did.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 1/20/14, 9:23 AM, Brewster wrote:
> On 1/19/14 10:42 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 1/18/14, 10:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
>>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anonymous <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand,
>>>>> stain
>>>>> and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled
>>>>> his
>>>>> beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly
>>>>> head
>>>>> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>>>>
>>>> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter
>>>> -- everything will look the
>>>> same in the end.
>>>
>>> That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart
>>> attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor!
>>>
>>
>> Well, I don't know. We may have accidentally stumbled upon a decent use
>> for Bud lite. :-)
>>
>>
>
> I thought the suggestion was to wipe down all boards with _beer_. Using
> a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol probably is a poor
> substitute for using beer.
>
> -BR
>
"a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol"
That's the definition of Bud Lite. :-)
--
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--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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On 1/21/2014 12:02 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 7:54:02 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
>
>> Next up, perhaps the board should be sent up to the space station to see
>>
>> how it will clean up under zero gravity conditions.
>
> Have no doubt, if it shows up on Google as posted by someone that swears they heard it from an expert, it will show up here!
>
The obvious question is what kind of beer, if it was a Belgian Lambic,
there will be staining, Bud Light, not likely.
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The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
Leon wrote:
> On 1/20/2014 12:51 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Monday, January 20, 2014 10:58:02 AM UTC-6, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>
>>> This is good, but why a water and/or a water/soap wash not work? The
>>> water and/or the water/soap is going to infiltrate those fibers the very
>>> same way that the original beer spill did.
>>>
>>
>> Wow... this thread is going from weird to surreal. Soon someone
>> will suggest that the piece be sent to a lab in Germany for testing,
>> then treatment at an undisclosed location using products that don't
>> exist... or do they? This is probably an pretty simple problem (but
>> we don't know without details as the OP bugged out)and no extensive
>> wood rehabilitation (really... board planing?) is needed. Surely
>> there are others out there that have experience
>> finishing/refinishing contaminated surfaces... Water on a piece of
>> oak might stain almost as much as the beer did. And never use any soap in
>> unsealed wood as it will leave a residue
>> that is almost impossible to remove or seal over. Worse, the soap
>> (which is most likely a surfactant of some sort) will simply
>> redistribute the remaining dried particles over the area you are
>> cleaning/washing. Unless allowed to stand with a liquid on it, wood,
>> even oak (don't
>> panic over the tubules), absorbs very little liquid when exposed. I
>> did some of my own experiments after reading how little penetration
>> wood finishes get, and was literally stunned at low little finish of
>> any sort is absorbed by wood. Whether the finish is thick or thin,
>> the amount of surface penetration is probably nor more than a very
>> few thousands at best. A simple spill is not different. While we
>> were not given any additional information to help with a
>> better diagnosis, under normal circumstances it would be likely that
>> the project had beer spilled on it and was immediately wiped down. If
>> this is the case, the remaining residue can be wiped off with
>> mineral spirits and a porous rag, then after completely dry, a
>> little sanding. Loosened particles that contain the last of the beer
>> should be easily dusted away at this point, then a quick wipe with a
>> rage moistened with mineral spirits should do the trick. Robert
>>
>
>
> Next up, perhaps the board should be sent up to the space station to
> see how it will clean up under zero gravity conditions.
Wow - all of this over a simple suggestion to wipe it down with water - and
maybe a little soap? I've done both over decades with absolutely no
problems. Can't understand how this is getting this big.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
[email protected] wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:12:45 -0500, FrozenNorth
>> The obvious question is what kind of beer, if it was a Belgian
>> Lambic, there will be staining, Bud Light, not likely.
>
> A good Canadian beer. My choice is Sleeman Cream Ale.
So wrong! A good Canadian beer is worth licking up.
--
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[email protected]
On 1/21/2014 1:00 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:12:45 -0500, FrozenNorth
>> The obvious question is what kind of beer, if it was a Belgian Lambic,
>> there will be staining, Bud Light, not likely.
>
> A good Canadian beer. My choice is Sleeman Cream Ale.
>
Not bad, I prefer the Sleeman Draft myself.
--
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The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
[email protected] wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 12:32:05 PM UTC-6, Mike Marlow wrote:
>
>> Wow - all of this over a simple suggestion to wipe it down with
>> water - and
>>
>> maybe a little soap? I've done both over decades with absolutely no
>>
>> problems. Can't understand how this is getting this big.
>
> I am sensing your irritation level climbing, Mike. It's OK; we're
> just having a bit of fun now. This isn't about you.
>
> Look at it this way: at least no one has tried to connect this thread
> to anything political yet.
>
> Relax.
Oh heck - no iratiation level climbing at all. In fact - I thought that's
what I saw in your reply to my suggestion. It seemed to be a bit iratated.
I certainly don't feel it's about me or my comment at all, so that's no
sweat. As for me - I would (at one time...) simply have worried about
getting spinters in my tongue...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Mike Marlow wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>> On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 12:32:05 PM UTC-6, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>
>>> Wow - all of this over a simple suggestion to wipe it down with
>>> water - and
>>>
>>> maybe a little soap? I've done both over decades with absolutely no
>>>
>>> problems. Can't understand how this is getting this big.
>>
>> I am sensing your irritation level climbing, Mike. It's OK; we're
>> just having a bit of fun now. This isn't about you.
>>
>> Look at it this way: at least no one has tried to connect this thread
>> to anything political yet.
>>
>> Relax.
>
> Oh heck - no iratiation level climbing at all. In fact - I thought
> that's what I saw in your reply to my suggestion. It seemed to be a
> bit iratated. I certainly don't feel it's about me or my comment at
> all, so that's no sweat. As for me - I would (at one time...) simply
> have worried about getting spinters in my tongue...
BTW - how many more times do you think I could have misspelled
irritated/irritation/etc. in one single post? Sheese...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
jo4hn wrote:
> On 1/20/2014 9:02 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 1/20/14, 9:23 AM, Brewster wrote:
>>> On 1/19/14 10:42 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>> On 1/18/14, 10:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anonymous <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote in
>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand,
>>>>>>> stain
>>>>>>> and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled
>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>> beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly
>>>>>>> head
>>>>>>> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter
>>>>>> -- everything will look the
>>>>>> same in the end.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart
>>>>> attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, I don't know. We may have accidentally stumbled upon a
>>>> decent use
>>>> for Bud lite. :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I thought the suggestion was to wipe down all boards with _beer_. Using
>>> a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol probably is a poor
>>> substitute for using beer.
>>>
>>> -BR
>>>
>>
>> "a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol"
>>
>> That's the definition of Bud Lite. :-)
>>
>>
> You can kill the taste of Bud Lite if it's ice cold.
> :~\
>
I think that's one of its selling points! Kind of like Nicorette-gum
for people who don't want to smoke.
On 1/22/14, 8:54 AM, jo4hn wrote:
> On 1/20/2014 9:02 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 1/20/14, 9:23 AM, Brewster wrote:
>>> On 1/19/14 10:42 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>> On 1/18/14, 10:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anonymous <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote in
>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand,
>>>>>>> stain
>>>>>>> and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled
>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>> beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly
>>>>>>> head
>>>>>>> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter
>>>>>> -- everything will look the
>>>>>> same in the end.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart
>>>>> attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, I don't know. We may have accidentally stumbled upon a decent
>>>> use
>>>> for Bud lite. :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I thought the suggestion was to wipe down all boards with _beer_. Using
>>> a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol probably is a poor
>>> substitute for using beer.
>>>
>>> -BR
>>>
>>
>> "a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol"
>>
>> That's the definition of Bud Lite. :-)
>>
>>
> You can kill the taste of Bud Lite if it's ice cold.
> :~\
>
Any time you see a beer ad bragging about how cold it is, that's sure
sign that the manufacturer doesn't want to knowing what it really tastes
like. Any craft beer connoisseur knows that you cannot taste the flavors
in a beer that is "ice cold!"
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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On 1/22/14, 12:34 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 1/22/2014 10:33 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 1/22/14, 8:54 AM, jo4hn wrote:
>>> On 1/20/2014 9:02 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>> On 1/20/14, 9:23 AM, Brewster wrote:
>>>>> On 1/19/14 10:42 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/18/14, 10:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anonymous <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to
>>>>>>>>> sand,
>>>>>>>>> stain
>>>>>>>>> and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he
>>>>>>>>> spilled
>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>> beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly
>>>>>>>>> head
>>>>>>>>> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really
>>>>>>>> matter
>>>>>>>> -- everything will look the
>>>>>>>> same in the end.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart
>>>>>>> attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, I don't know. We may have accidentally stumbled upon a decent
>>>>>> use
>>>>>> for Bud lite. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought the suggestion was to wipe down all boards with _beer_.
>>>>> Using
>>>>> a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol probably is a
>>>>> poor
>>>>> substitute for using beer.
>>>>>
>>>>> -BR
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol"
>>>>
>>>> That's the definition of Bud Lite. :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You can kill the taste of Bud Lite if it's ice cold.
>>> :~\
>>>
>>
>> Any time you see a beer ad bragging about how cold it is, that's sure
>> sign that the manufacturer doesn't want to knowing what it really tastes
>> like. Any craft beer connoisseur knows that you cannot taste the flavors
>> in a beer that is "ice cold!"
>>
>>
>
> Your statement might be a little broad.
>
> Craft beer or not, it is the type/style of beer that dictates the
> serving temperature. Some beers are supposed to be served cold, some not.
>
>
> Interesting info..
>
> http://www.ratebeer.com/Story.asp?StoryID=479
>
>
>
Did you read your own link? :-p
They agree with me...
"Very cold (0-4C/32-39F): Any beer you dont actually want to taste.
Pale Lager, Malt Liquor, Canadian-style Golden Ale and Cream Ale, Low
Alcohol, Canadian, American or Scandinavian-style Cider."
Repeat: "Any beer you dont actually want to taste."
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
On 1/22/14, 2:03 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 1/22/2014 12:55 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 1/22/14, 12:34 PM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 1/22/2014 10:33 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>> On 1/22/14, 8:54 AM, jo4hn wrote:
>>>>> On 1/20/2014 9:02 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/20/14, 9:23 AM, Brewster wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/19/14 10:42 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/18/14, 10:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anonymous <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to
>>>>>>>>>>> sand,
>>>>>>>>>>> stain
>>>>>>>>>>> and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he
>>>>>>>>>>> spilled
>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>> beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its
>>>>>>>>>>> ugly
>>>>>>>>>>> head
>>>>>>>>>>> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really
>>>>>>>>>> matter
>>>>>>>>>> -- everything will look the
>>>>>>>>>> same in the end.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart
>>>>>>>>> attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, I don't know. We may have accidentally stumbled upon a
>>>>>>>> decent
>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>> for Bud lite. :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought the suggestion was to wipe down all boards with _beer_.
>>>>>>> Using
>>>>>>> a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol probably is a
>>>>>>> poor
>>>>>>> substitute for using beer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -BR
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's the definition of Bud Lite. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> You can kill the taste of Bud Lite if it's ice cold.
>>>>> :~\
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any time you see a beer ad bragging about how cold it is, that's sure
>>>> sign that the manufacturer doesn't want to knowing what it really
>>>> tastes
>>>> like. Any craft beer connoisseur knows that you cannot taste the
>>>> flavors
>>>> in a beer that is "ice cold!"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Your statement might be a little broad.
>>>
>>> Craft beer or not, it is the type/style of beer that dictates the
>>> serving temperature. Some beers are supposed to be served cold, some
>>> not.
>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting info..
>>>
>>> http://www.ratebeer.com/Story.asp?StoryID=479
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Did you read your own link? :-p
>> They agree with me...
>> "Very cold (0-4C/32-39F): Any beer you dont actually want to taste.
>> Pale Lager, Malt Liquor, Canadian-style Golden Ale and Cream Ale, Low
>> Alcohol, Canadian, American or Scandinavian-style Cider."
>>
>> Repeat: "Any beer you dont actually want to taste."
>>
>
> Then I totally missed the point you might have been trying to make
> concerning the reference that beer served cold might not pass the taste
> test by a connoisseur.
>
> Basically not all beers are brewed with the intent for you to "taste the
> flavors". This does not mean that the beer is not good, only that
> perhaps you prefer beers that are intended to be served at warmer
> temperatures.
>
> Personally I prefer my beers to be colder and my preference's are the
> stouts. I can hardly stand IPA's at any temperature. ;~)
>
My favorites cover both ends of that spectrum. I love a great imperial
Russian stout AND a really sweet, citrusy double IPA. I'm also pretty
fond of certain Old Ales and Wee Heavies.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
In article <[email protected]>,
Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:45:01 AM UTC-6, Anonymous wrote:
>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain
>>
>> and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his
>>
>> beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head
>>
>> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>
>Old topic, but in case you're still around:
>
>http://deadspin.com/one-weird-old-trick-to-remove-white-water-stains-from-w-1526958586
Executive summary: mix cigar or cigarette ashes with butter to make
a paste; use the paste to clean the cabinet.
Just a shot in the dark here, but isn't that basically the recipe for
lye soap? Any chemists care to comment?
--
-Ed Falk, [email protected]
http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/
On 1/18/2014 11:15 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Doug Miller wrote:
>> Anonymous<[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand,
>>> stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he
>>> spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot
>>> rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>>
>> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter
>> -- everything will look the same in the end.
>
> That's one hell of a waste of good beer! I suppose you could use cheap
> beer - like maybe Utica Club...
>
In Texas we would use a foreign beer for this job.
Something like Budweiser or Miller.
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:16:56 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Gordon Shumway wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Anonymous <[email protected]> wrote
>>> in news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand,
>>>> stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he
>>>> spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot
>>>> rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>>>
>>> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter
>>> -- everything will look the same in the end.
>>
>> That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart
>> attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor!
>
>Not Mike. You meant to say -Mike-. There is a difference...
You're right. I'll try not to make that mistake again.
On 01/21/2014 11:04 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 6:29:52 PM UTC-6, Mike Marlow wrote:
>
> As for me - I would (at one time...) simply have worried about
>>
>> getting spinters in my tongue...
>
>>
>>
>> -Mike-
>
> LOL!! Me, too. Now it has to be a good Kentucky bond to get me to do that!
>
> Robert
>
I'll have mine neat, and if I have to lick it off an oak board, I'll
abide by local custom.
basilisk
On 1/22/2014 12:55 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 1/22/14, 12:34 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 1/22/2014 10:33 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 1/22/14, 8:54 AM, jo4hn wrote:
>>>> On 1/20/2014 9:02 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>> On 1/20/14, 9:23 AM, Brewster wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/19/14 10:42 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/18/14, 10:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anonymous <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to
>>>>>>>>>> sand,
>>>>>>>>>> stain
>>>>>>>>>> and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he
>>>>>>>>>> spilled
>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>> beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its
>>>>>>>>>> ugly
>>>>>>>>>> head
>>>>>>>>>> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really
>>>>>>>>> matter
>>>>>>>>> -- everything will look the
>>>>>>>>> same in the end.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart
>>>>>>>> attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, I don't know. We may have accidentally stumbled upon a decent
>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>> for Bud lite. :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought the suggestion was to wipe down all boards with _beer_.
>>>>>> Using
>>>>>> a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol probably is a
>>>>>> poor
>>>>>> substitute for using beer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -BR
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol"
>>>>>
>>>>> That's the definition of Bud Lite. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> You can kill the taste of Bud Lite if it's ice cold.
>>>> :~\
>>>>
>>>
>>> Any time you see a beer ad bragging about how cold it is, that's sure
>>> sign that the manufacturer doesn't want to knowing what it really tastes
>>> like. Any craft beer connoisseur knows that you cannot taste the flavors
>>> in a beer that is "ice cold!"
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Your statement might be a little broad.
>>
>> Craft beer or not, it is the type/style of beer that dictates the
>> serving temperature. Some beers are supposed to be served cold, some
>> not.
>>
>>
>> Interesting info..
>>
>> http://www.ratebeer.com/Story.asp?StoryID=479
>>
>>
>>
>
> Did you read your own link? :-p
> They agree with me...
> "Very cold (0-4C/32-39F): Any beer you dont actually want to taste.
> Pale Lager, Malt Liquor, Canadian-style Golden Ale and Cream Ale, Low
> Alcohol, Canadian, American or Scandinavian-style Cider."
>
> Repeat: "Any beer you dont actually want to taste."
>
Then I totally missed the point you might have been trying to make
concerning the reference that beer served cold might not pass the taste
test by a connoisseur.
Basically not all beers are brewed with the intent for you to "taste the
flavors". This does not mean that the beer is not good, only that
perhaps you prefer beers that are intended to be served at warmer
temperatures.
Personally I prefer my beers to be colder and my preference's are the
stouts. I can hardly stand IPA's at any temperature. ;~)
-MIKE- <[email protected]> writes:
>On 1/20/14, 9:23 AM, Brewster wrote:
>> On 1/19/14 10:42 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 1/18/14, 10:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Anonymous <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand,
>>>>>> stain
>>>>>> and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled
>>>>>> his
>>>>>> beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly
>>>>>> head
>>>>>> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>>>>>
>>>>> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter
>>>>> -- everything will look the
>>>>> same in the end.
>>>>
>>>> That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart
>>>> attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I don't know. We may have accidentally stumbled upon a decent use
>>> for Bud lite. :-)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I thought the suggestion was to wipe down all boards with _beer_. Using
>> a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol probably is a poor
>> substitute for using beer.
>>
>> -BR
>>
>
>"a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol"
>
>That's the definition of Bud Lite. :-)
>
or superblonde shellac...
On 1/22/2014 10:33 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 1/22/14, 8:54 AM, jo4hn wrote:
>> On 1/20/2014 9:02 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 1/20/14, 9:23 AM, Brewster wrote:
>>>> On 1/19/14 10:42 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>> On 1/18/14, 10:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anonymous <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand,
>>>>>>>> stain
>>>>>>>> and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled
>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>> beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly
>>>>>>>> head
>>>>>>>> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter
>>>>>>> -- everything will look the
>>>>>>> same in the end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart
>>>>>> attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I don't know. We may have accidentally stumbled upon a decent
>>>>> use
>>>>> for Bud lite. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I thought the suggestion was to wipe down all boards with _beer_. Using
>>>> a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol probably is a poor
>>>> substitute for using beer.
>>>>
>>>> -BR
>>>>
>>>
>>> "a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol"
>>>
>>> That's the definition of Bud Lite. :-)
>>>
>>>
>> You can kill the taste of Bud Lite if it's ice cold.
>> :~\
>>
>
> Any time you see a beer ad bragging about how cold it is, that's sure
> sign that the manufacturer doesn't want to knowing what it really tastes
> like. Any craft beer connoisseur knows that you cannot taste the flavors
> in a beer that is "ice cold!"
>
>
Your statement might be a little broad.
Craft beer or not, it is the type/style of beer that dictates the
serving temperature. Some beers are supposed to be served cold, some not.
Interesting info..
http://www.ratebeer.com/Story.asp?StoryID=479
On 1/18/2014 10:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Anonymous<[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain
>>> and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his
>>> beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head
>>> when I get to stain and poly it in the spring?
>>
>> Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter -- everything will look the
>> same in the end.
>
> That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart
> attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor!
Well, he could always drink it first...