DB

Dave Balderstone

05/03/2015 9:50 PM

OT: It's a long way down... 22 storeys.

Fellow wreckers,

If you have ever thought to yourself "why doesn't Balderstone just step
off a tall building?" then this is your chance!

On August 25, 2015, I will be rappelling down a 22-story building to
raise money for "Camp Easter Seal", the only wheelchair accessible camp
for disabled kids in the province of Saskatchewan.

My initial target is to raise $3,000, hence this post.

For information about the Drop Zone event, Camp Easter Seal and the
Easter Sela Campaign, please visit my fundraising page at
<http://my.e2rm.com/PersonalPage.aspx?registrationID=2760222&langPref=en-
CA&Referrer=direct%2fnone>

Seriously... A 57 year old man, weighing in at 230, is going to step
off a perfectly good building. Who could NOT want to drop a few bucks
in the jar to be part of that?

Thanks in advance,

We now return you to discussing the best paint to use on cherry.

djb

--
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This topic has 40 replies

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

06/03/2015 6:50 AM

In article <[email protected]>, Doug
Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote:

> Acrophobia, vertigo and all wouldn't allow me to try on your shoes...

Heights don't bother me. It's the DEPTHS... </rincewind>

;-)

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DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

06/03/2015 4:05 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Ed
Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:

> Depends what I'm standing on. As long as it is solid I'm OK, but I don't
> do bouncing ladders.

I'm with you, Ed.

I'm going to be shitting bricks at the top of that tower, no question.

But I've never done it, and if I wait too long I never will.

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DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

07/03/2015 11:02 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Sonny <[email protected]> wrote:

> There will be a video of proof, later, right? .... At least the start and
> end of your journey.

Well, I've been wanting a GoPro for a while now...

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DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

07/03/2015 11:14 AM

In article <[email protected]>, John McCoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > On 03/05/2015 08:50 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> >> For information about the Drop Zone event, Camp Easter Seal and the
> >> Easter Sela Campaign, please visit my fundraising page at
> >> <http://my.e2rm.com/PersonalPage.aspx?registrationID=2760222&langPref=
> >> en- CA&Referrer=direct%2fnone>
>
> The link seems to be having some problems...

Looks like a space got inserted somewhere along the line...

This works: <http://goo.gl/qUzKXu>

>
> > Acrophobia, vertigo and all wouldn't allow me to try on your shoes...
>
> Heights generally bother me - I hate driving across tall
> bridges - but funnily enough I've never had a problem with
> the Million Dollar highway or some of the jeep trails out
> in Colorado.

When I was a kid in Winnipeg we had to drive across a bridge with a
metal grill for a deck to visit one particular aunt, uncle and cousins.
I dreaded that bridge, and the view of the river underneath us.

--
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DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

07/03/2015 2:44 PM

In article <[email protected]>, FrozenNorth
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey, I was born in Winnipeg, but fortunately at the age of four my dad
> got transferred to the center of the universe. :-)

You're here in Saskatoon? Who knew?!

<grin>

--
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Sk

Swingman

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

08/03/2015 5:59 PM

On 3/8/2015 9:14 AM, [email protected] wrote:

> These guys aren't exactly sane:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh8Zu5_0Am0

Amazing what can be accomplished with your eyes closed... ;)

As an Artillery FO in Vietnam, and not being an integrated member of any
particular combat infantry unit in need of artillery support, I often
rappelled by helicopter into, and was extracted from, the triple canopy
jungle "clearings" made by blasting a few trees down with C4.

Logistically, the only feasible way to get anyone in and out of triple
canopy jungle when necessary.

Most of the time the feat was performed from 100' or so, and fairly
quick and routine. Things changed if the operation turned "hot" and
started taking incoming. The pilots main concern was then to unass the
area. ricky tick, and get out of harms way, leaving yours truly dangling
on 120' of line, at 1000' altitude, like a monkey on a string.

Though we trained for that not uncommon occurrence, it indeed certainly
helped to be crazy ... especially with tracers heading in your direction.

(and I'm like Marlow when it comes to heights, not even liking to be in
an Atrium building).


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Doug Winterburn

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

05/03/2015 9:56 PM

On 03/05/2015 08:50 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> Fellow wreckers,
>
> If you have ever thought to yourself "why doesn't Balderstone just step
> off a tall building?" then this is your chance!
>
> On August 25, 2015, I will be rappelling down a 22-story building to
> raise money for "Camp Easter Seal", the only wheelchair accessible camp
> for disabled kids in the province of Saskatchewan.
>
> My initial target is to raise $3,000, hence this post.
>
> For information about the Drop Zone event, Camp Easter Seal and the
> Easter Sela Campaign, please visit my fundraising page at
> <http://my.e2rm.com/PersonalPage.aspx?registrationID=2760222&langPref=en-
> CA&Referrer=direct%2fnone>
>
> Seriously... A 57 year old man, weighing in at 230, is going to step
> off a perfectly good building. Who could NOT want to drop a few bucks
> in the jar to be part of that?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> We now return you to discussing the best paint to use on cherry.
>
> djb
>

Good on ya, Dave,

This weekend is our annual Elks charity golf tournament. So far, we've
raised over $8K for wounded vets and local kids charities.

Acrophobia, vertigo and all wouldn't allow me to try on your shoes...

- Doug


--
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill

Mg

Max

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

06/03/2015 1:45 PM

On 3/6/2015 12:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 3/6/2015 10:17 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Dave Balderstone wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>, Doug
>>> Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Acrophobia, vertigo and all wouldn't allow me to try on your shoes...
>>>
>>> Heights don't bother me. It's the DEPTHS...
>>
>> Nah - they both bother me - big time!
>>
>
> Depends what I'm standing on. As long as it is solid I'm OK, but I don't
> do bouncing ladders.

LOL. As a "Tillerman" (the guy who steers the rear wheels on a tractor
drawn aerial ladder) I was the first up the ladder. As long as the
ladder was stationary it was no problem but when the extended ladder was
rotated the upper end would tend to wobble back and forth.

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

07/03/2015 4:44 PM

Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> Just be ready to run if it starts to wobble, flex, and slowly bend.
> You'll have about 1/100000 of a second to get off of it.
>
> I think I'd go out in the tower, but until I do, I'm not going to
> brag. I know how glass works and if it goes, you are gone.
>

Considering the odds of that happening to you, you shoulda bought a lottery
ticket before you stepped out. ;-)

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

07/03/2015 4:25 PM

RE: Subject

If you truly want to jack up your pucker factor a few knotches
try going up the mast of a sailboat with only a bosun's chair and
a halyard.

It's particulary invigorating in 10-20 knots of wind, even if
you are still at dock.

Lew

Mg

Max

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

07/03/2015 6:20 PM

On 3/7/2015 1:44 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, FrozenNorth
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hey, I was born in Winnipeg, but fortunately at the age of four my dad
>> got transferred to the center of the universe. :-)
>
> You're here in Saskatoon? Who knew?!
>
> <grin>
>

Of course not! He's in Santa Fe, NM ;-)

Mg

Max

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

07/03/2015 6:21 PM

On 3/7/2015 5:25 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> RE: Subject
>
> If you truly want to jack up your pucker factor a few knotches
> try going up the mast of a sailboat with only a bosun's chair and
> a halyard.
>
> It's particulary invigorating in 10-20 knots of wind, even if
> you are still at dock.
>
> Lew
>
>

I knew that there was a line somewhere.....

Mg

Max

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

08/03/2015 4:04 PM

On 3/8/2015 2:30 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 09:56:04 -0400, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]>

>> There are some youtube videos of these guys that climb those towers to
>> perform maintenance. At points near the top, they are not even harnassed to
>> the tower as they climb. Insane! Have no idea how they can do this stuff -
>> drives me nuts just watching the video.
>
> Agreed, and the helmet-cam perspective is more than I can stomach.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A_h2AjJaMw#t=43
>

I watched that for a little less than a minute and said, "Nope".
As a new firefighter I did a lot of part time jobs.
I poured concrete, laid bricks shingled roofs, painted houses, did
landscaping, anything to supplement income. But if an offer came to
climb towers I'm "afraid" I would pass it up. ;-)

Sc

Sonny

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

06/03/2015 2:33 PM

On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 4:05:32 PM UTC-6, Dave Balderstone wrote:

>
> > Depends what I'm standing on. As long as it is solid I'm OK, but I don't
> > do bouncing ladders.
>
> I'm with you, Ed.
>
> I'm going to be shitting bricks at the top of that tower, no question.
>
> But I've never done it, and if I wait too long I never will.


There will be a video of proof, later, right? .... At least the start and end of your journey.

Sonny

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

07/03/2015 7:56 AM

On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 9:50:40 AM UTC-5, Markem wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 00:15:52 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >John McCoy wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Heights generally bother me - I hate driving across tall
> >> bridges - but funnily enough I've never had a problem with
> >> the Million Dollar highway or some of the jeep trails out
> >> in Colorado.
> >>
> >
> >Likewise - I can take my climbing tree stand out in the woods and climb up
> >30' in a tree and be just fine. Get me driving over those really high
> >bridges and it's not so much! Get me on a ladder - ain't happening. Get me
> >near a window in a skyscraper - no freakin' way. Like I said earlier - I
> >can't even take seeing that crap on TV. Wierd - ain't it?
>
> Then I know where you will never be Mike, the Sears Tower (now renamed
> Willis Tower I think) has a room with a glass floor that sticks out a
> bit, or the glass bridge over the Grand Canyon.

I saw a show about a building that had small glass "rooms" that extended outside the building. The floors, walls and ceilings were all glass. They were built on tracks so that they could be brought in flush with the exterior wall for 2 reasons:

1 - So that the exterior surfaces of the glass could be cleaned.
2 - So that they didn't interfere with the automatic window washing system.

http://www.steam-brite.com/images/IPC-Eagle-HIgh-rise-3M10-HR302-Self-climbing-high-rise-window-cleaning-machine_a_.jpg.jpg

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

08/03/2015 12:53 PM

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 9:57:40 AM UTC-4, Mike Marlow wrote:
> John McCoy wrote:
> > Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote in
> > news:[email protected]:
> >
> >> Way back in the 60's when the scrapers were starting to rise in
> >> Honolulu I had a friend there that cleaned the windows. He was
> >> on the top as he did many a building in N.Y. and found the need
> >> in a vacation spot. He normally worked 2 days a week and sometimes
> >> three. He got combat + pay there. The job added a day to train
> >> others.
> >
> > In college I had a friend who paid his way thru changing
> > light bulbs on radio towers. He only worked a few days
> > per semester.
> >
>=20
> There are some youtube videos of these guys that climb those towers to=20
> perform maintenance. At points near the top, they are not even harnassed=
to=20
> the tower as they climb. Insane! Have no idea how they can do this stuf=
f -=20
> drives me nuts just watching the video.
>=20

When I was in the Coast Guard I was stationed at LORAN stations where the t=
ransmitting towers were as tall as 1/4 mile. They had outside contractors w=
ho performed the annual maintenance, but they would always take a volunteer=
from the station with them as an extra pair of hands. If you wanted to cli=
mb the tower, you submitted your name and the volunteer was chosen based on=
merit, seniority, job responsibilities, etc.=20

At my last station in AK, I was a senior transmitter technician and met all=
of the qualifications to be the chosen volunteer. For that reason I made s=
ure I was no where to be found when they were asking for volunteers.

JM

John McCoy

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

07/03/2015 1:09 AM

Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On 03/05/2015 08:50 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
>> For information about the Drop Zone event, Camp Easter Seal and the
>> Easter Sela Campaign, please visit my fundraising page at
>> <http://my.e2rm.com/PersonalPage.aspx?registrationID=2760222&langPref=
>> en- CA&Referrer=direct%2fnone>

The link seems to be having some problems...

> Acrophobia, vertigo and all wouldn't allow me to try on your shoes...

Heights generally bother me - I hate driving across tall
bridges - but funnily enough I've never had a problem with
the Million Dollar highway or some of the jeep trails out
in Colorado.

John

JM

John McCoy

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

08/03/2015 1:53 PM

Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Way back in the 60's when the scrapers were starting to rise in
> Honolulu I had a friend there that cleaned the windows. He was
> on the top as he did many a building in N.Y. and found the need
> in a vacation spot. He normally worked 2 days a week and sometimes
> three. He got combat + pay there. The job added a day to train
> others.

In college I had a friend who paid his way thru changing
light bulbs on radio towers. He only worked a few days
per semester.

John

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

07/03/2015 5:04 PM

On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 7:39:10 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 08:51:22 -0600, Markem <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 00:15:52 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>John McCoy wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Heights generally bother me - I hate driving across tall
> >>> bridges - but funnily enough I've never had a problem with
> >>> the Million Dollar highway or some of the jeep trails out
> >>> in Colorado.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Likewise - I can take my climbing tree stand out in the woods and climb up
> >>30' in a tree and be just fine. Get me driving over those really high
> >>bridges and it's not so much! Get me on a ladder - ain't happening. Get me
> >>near a window in a skyscraper - no freakin' way. Like I said earlier - I
> >>can't even take seeing that crap on TV. Wierd - ain't it?
> >
> >Then I know where you will never be Mike, the Sears Tower (now renamed
> >Willis Tower I think) has a room with a glass floor that sticks out a
> >bit, or the glass bridge over the Grand Canyon.
>
> Doesn't the "Sears Tower" have that tilt out thingy. You lean against
> it and they tilt it out over the edge? One recently cracked/crazed
> with people on it. Rather shocked a few people but "they were in no
> danger". ;-)

Actually, it's the Hancock Tower, AKA 360 Chicago

k

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

08/03/2015 7:57 PM

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 17:59:47 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 3/8/2015 9:14 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> These guys aren't exactly sane:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh8Zu5_0Am0
>
>Amazing what can be accomplished with your eyes closed... ;)

;-)

>As an Artillery FO in Vietnam, and not being an integrated member of any
>particular combat infantry unit in need of artillery support, I often
>rappelled by helicopter into, and was extracted from, the triple canopy
>jungle "clearings" made by blasting a few trees down with C4.
>
>Logistically, the only feasible way to get anyone in and out of triple
>canopy jungle when necessary.
>
>Most of the time the feat was performed from 100' or so, and fairly
>quick and routine. Things changed if the operation turned "hot" and
>started taking incoming. The pilots main concern was then to unass the
>area. ricky tick, and get out of harms way, leaving yours truly dangling
>on 120' of line, at 1000' altitude, like a monkey on a string.

Yikes! Though there are people who pay good money for excitement like
that.

>Though we trained for that not uncommon occurrence, it indeed certainly
>helped to be crazy ... especially with tracers heading in your direction.
>
>(and I'm like Marlow when it comes to heights, not even liking to be in
>an Atrium building).

I used to be that way. I'd back up to the opposite wall in "high"
rise (high > 4-5 stories) buildings and always tried to get a low
floor or walked next to the rooms, when I couldn't, at Embassy Suites.
After about 50, I pretty much lost my fear of heights (as long as the
ladder isn't moving too much ;-).

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

06/03/2015 7:55 AM

On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:56:09 PM UTC-5, Doug Winterburn wrote:
> On 03/05/2015 08:50 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> > Fellow wreckers,
> >
> > If you have ever thought to yourself "why doesn't Balderstone just step
> > off a tall building?" then this is your chance!
> >
> > On August 25, 2015, I will be rappelling down a 22-story building to
> > raise money for "Camp Easter Seal", the only wheelchair accessible camp
> > for disabled kids in the province of Saskatchewan.
> >
> > My initial target is to raise $3,000, hence this post.
> >
> > For information about the Drop Zone event, Camp Easter Seal and the
> > Easter Sela Campaign, please visit my fundraising page at
> > <http://my.e2rm.com/PersonalPage.aspx?registrationID=2760222&langPref=en-
> > CA&Referrer=direct%2fnone>
> >
> > Seriously... A 57 year old man, weighing in at 230, is going to step
> > off a perfectly good building. Who could NOT want to drop a few bucks
> > in the jar to be part of that?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > We now return you to discussing the best paint to use on cherry.
> >
> > djb
> >
>
> Good on ya, Dave,
>
> This weekend is our annual Elks charity golf tournament. So far, we've
> raised over $8K for wounded vets and local kids charities.
>
> Acrophobia, vertigo and all wouldn't allow me to try on your shoes...
>
> - Doug
>

SWMBO and I both tighten up and lean back in our chairs if we see extreme heights even on TV.

Just last night we stumbled across an airing of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. The chase scene along the cliff was enough for SWMBO to have to leave the room.

Less than a second of the cliff chase can be seen at exactly 1:34 of this clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BgyhHBoz50

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

07/03/2015 11:11 AM

On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 08:51:22 -0600, Markem <[email protected]>
wrote:



>
>Then I know where you will never be Mike, the Sears Tower (now renamed
>Willis Tower I think) has a room with a glass floor that sticks out a
>bit, or the glass bridge over the Grand Canyon.

Just be ready to run if it starts to wobble, flex, and slowly bend.
You'll have about 1/100000 of a second to get off of it.

I think I'd go out in the tower, but until I do, I'm not going to
brag. I know how glass works and if it goes, you are gone.

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

06/03/2015 1:06 PM

On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 3:45:09 PM UTC-5, Max wrote:
> On 3/6/2015 12:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 3/6/2015 10:17 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> >> Dave Balderstone wrote:
> >>> In article <[email protected]>, Doug
> >>> Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Acrophobia, vertigo and all wouldn't allow me to try on your shoes...
> >>>
> >>> Heights don't bother me. It's the DEPTHS...
> >>
> >> Nah - they both bother me - big time!
> >>
> >
> > Depends what I'm standing on. As long as it is solid I'm OK, but I don't
> > do bouncing ladders.
>
> LOL. As a "Tillerman" (the guy who steers the rear wheels on a tractor
> drawn aerial ladder) I was the first up the ladder. As long as the
> ladder was stationary it was no problem but when the extended ladder was
> rotated the upper end would tend to wobble back and forth.

We have a fireman's field near us where they hold their annual competitions. When the kids were young, we used to go all the time.

I gotta hand it to those guys that will start climbing a ladder before it is even fully supported by the bridge. I know that the height is not that great, but I get nervous on a 10', solidly positioned, step ladder. ;-)

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

07/03/2015 7:54 AM

On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 9:50:40 AM UTC-5, Markem wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 00:15:52 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>=20
> >John McCoy wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Heights generally bother me - I hate driving across tall
> >> bridges - but funnily enough I've never had a problem with
> >> the Million Dollar highway or some of the jeep trails out
> >> in Colorado.
> >>
> >
> >Likewise - I can take my climbing tree stand out in the woods and climb =
up=20
> >30' in a tree and be just fine. Get me driving over those really high=
=20
> >bridges and it's not so much! Get me on a ladder - ain't happening. Ge=
t me=20
> >near a window in a skyscraper - no freakin' way. Like I said earlier - =
I=20
> >can't even take seeing that crap on TV. Wierd - ain't it?
>=20
> Then I know where you will never be Mike, the Sears Tower (now renamed
> Willis Tower I think) has a room with a glass floor that sticks out a
> bit, or the glass bridge over the Grand Canyon.

I've done the glass floor at the CN Tower in Toronto and at some other buil=
ding that I don't recall. Hated every minute of it, but had to do it.

The glass floors really play tricks on the mind. You can see that the glass=
is exactly level with the surrounding floor, but your mind (well, *my* min=
d) won't let you simply step from one surface to the other as if you are wa=
lking from the kitchen into the living room.=20

Even though there were people jumping (and rolling) around on the glass flo=
or, I stepped very gingerly, as if, I don't know...my foot was going to go =
right through? The glass was going to give way? Like I said, I don't know w=
hat it was, but I guess I had to convince myself that it was solid, even th=
ough all visual and common sense indications were that it had to be.

On the other hand, my kids are fearless. Here's a picture from a class trip=
a few years ago.

http://cdn.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/gallery/lunchtime/lunch_atop_a_sk=
yscraper-18.gif

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

06/03/2015 2:29 PM

On 3/6/2015 10:17 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Dave Balderstone wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>, Doug
>> Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Acrophobia, vertigo and all wouldn't allow me to try on your shoes...
>>
>> Heights don't bother me. It's the DEPTHS...
>
> Nah - they both bother me - big time!
>

Depends what I'm standing on. As long as it is solid I'm OK, but I don't
do bouncing ladders.

k

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

08/03/2015 10:14 AM

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 09:56:04 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>John McCoy wrote:
>> Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> Way back in the 60's when the scrapers were starting to rise in
>>> Honolulu I had a friend there that cleaned the windows. He was
>>> on the top as he did many a building in N.Y. and found the need
>>> in a vacation spot. He normally worked 2 days a week and sometimes
>>> three. He got combat + pay there. The job added a day to train
>>> others.
>>
>> In college I had a friend who paid his way thru changing
>> light bulbs on radio towers. He only worked a few days
>> per semester.
>>
>
>There are some youtube videos of these guys that climb those towers to
>perform maintenance. At points near the top, they are not even harnassed to
>the tower as they climb. Insane! Have no idea how they can do this stuff -
>drives me nuts just watching the video.

These guys aren't exactly sane:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh8Zu5_0Am0

Mm

Markem

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

07/03/2015 8:51 AM

On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 00:15:52 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>John McCoy wrote:
>
>>
>> Heights generally bother me - I hate driving across tall
>> bridges - but funnily enough I've never had a problem with
>> the Million Dollar highway or some of the jeep trails out
>> in Colorado.
>>
>
>Likewise - I can take my climbing tree stand out in the woods and climb up
>30' in a tree and be just fine. Get me driving over those really high
>bridges and it's not so much! Get me on a ladder - ain't happening. Get me
>near a window in a skyscraper - no freakin' way. Like I said earlier - I
>can't even take seeing that crap on TV. Wierd - ain't it?

Then I know where you will never be Mike, the Sears Tower (now renamed
Willis Tower I think) has a room with a glass floor that sticks out a
bit, or the glass bridge over the Grand Canyon.

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

06/03/2015 10:17 AM

Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Doug
> Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Acrophobia, vertigo and all wouldn't allow me to try on your shoes...
>
> Heights don't bother me. It's the DEPTHS...

Nah - they both bother me - big time!

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

06/03/2015 4:59 PM

On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 06:50:17 -0600, Dave Balderstone wrote:

> Heights don't bother me. It's the DEPTHS... </rincewind>

Discworld shall never die!

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

06/03/2015 12:06 PM

DerbyDad03 wrote:

>
> SWMBO and I both tighten up and lean back in our chairs if we see
> extreme heights even on TV.

Geezus - ain't that just the way it goes! I can't believe how my stomach
and my muscles react over simply watching something on youtube or TV. It's
like I'm really there...

>
> Just last night we stumbled across an airing of Indiana Jones and the
> Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. The chase scene along the cliff was
> enough for SWMBO to have to leave the room.

Ugh! I completely get it!



--

-Mike-
[email protected]

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

07/03/2015 12:11 AM

Max wrote:

> LOL. As a "Tillerman" (the guy who steers the rear wheels on a tractor
> drawn aerial ladder) I was the first up the ladder. As long as the
> ladder was stationary it was no problem but when the extended ladder
> was rotated the upper end would tend to wobble back and forth.

Nope!

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

07/03/2015 12:15 AM

John McCoy wrote:

>
> Heights generally bother me - I hate driving across tall
> bridges - but funnily enough I've never had a problem with
> the Million Dollar highway or some of the jeep trails out
> in Colorado.
>

Likewise - I can take my climbing tree stand out in the woods and climb up
30' in a tree and be just fine. Get me driving over those really high
bridges and it's not so much! Get me on a ladder - ain't happening. Get me
near a window in a skyscraper - no freakin' way. Like I said earlier - I
can't even take seeing that crap on TV. Wierd - ain't it?

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Ff

FrozenNorth

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

07/03/2015 12:34 PM

On 3/7/2015 12:14 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, John McCoy
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> On 03/05/2015 08:50 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
>>>> For information about the Drop Zone event, Camp Easter Seal and the
>>>> Easter Sela Campaign, please visit my fundraising page at
>>>> <http://my.e2rm.com/PersonalPage.aspx?registrationID=2760222&langPref=
>>>> en- CA&Referrer=direct%2fnone>
>>
>> The link seems to be having some problems...
>
> Looks like a space got inserted somewhere along the line...
>
> This works: <http://goo.gl/qUzKXu>
>
>>
>>> Acrophobia, vertigo and all wouldn't allow me to try on your shoes...
>>
>> Heights generally bother me - I hate driving across tall
>> bridges - but funnily enough I've never had a problem with
>> the Million Dollar highway or some of the jeep trails out
>> in Colorado.
>
> When I was a kid in Winnipeg we had to drive across a bridge with a
> metal grill for a deck to visit one particular aunt, uncle and cousins.
> I dreaded that bridge, and the view of the river underneath us.
>
Hey, I was born in Winnipeg, but fortunately at the age of four my dad
got transferred to the center of the universe. :-)


--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

07/03/2015 5:32 PM

Markem wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 00:15:52 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> John McCoy wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Heights generally bother me - I hate driving across tall
>>> bridges - but funnily enough I've never had a problem with
>>> the Million Dollar highway or some of the jeep trails out
>>> in Colorado.
>>>
>>
>> Likewise - I can take my climbing tree stand out in the woods and
>> climb up 30' in a tree and be just fine. Get me driving over those
>> really high bridges and it's not so much! Get me on a ladder -
>> ain't happening. Get me near a window in a skyscraper - no freakin'
>> way. Like I said earlier - I can't even take seeing that crap on
>> TV. Wierd - ain't it?
>
> Then I know where you will never be Mike, the Sears Tower (now renamed
> Willis Tower I think) has a room with a glass floor that sticks out a
> bit, or the glass bridge over the Grand Canyon.

You are correct sir! I have been up in most of them plus some other good
heights like the World Trade Center, the Empire State Building, and more.
But - that was then and this is now...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Ff

FrozenNorth

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

07/03/2015 6:36 PM

On 3/7/2015 3:44 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, FrozenNorth
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hey, I was born in Winnipeg, but fortunately at the age of four my dad
>> got transferred to the center of the universe. :-)
>
> You're here in Saskatoon? Who knew?!
>
> <grin>
>
+1

--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

08/03/2015 9:56 AM

John McCoy wrote:
> Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Way back in the 60's when the scrapers were starting to rise in
>> Honolulu I had a friend there that cleaned the windows. He was
>> on the top as he did many a building in N.Y. and found the need
>> in a vacation spot. He normally worked 2 days a week and sometimes
>> three. He got combat + pay there. The job added a day to train
>> others.
>
> In college I had a friend who paid his way thru changing
> light bulbs on radio towers. He only worked a few days
> per semester.
>

There are some youtube videos of these guys that climb those towers to
perform maintenance. At points near the top, they are not even harnassed to
the tower as they climb. Insane! Have no idea how they can do this stuff -
drives me nuts just watching the video.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

k

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

07/03/2015 7:39 PM

On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 08:51:22 -0600, Markem <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 00:15:52 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>John McCoy wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Heights generally bother me - I hate driving across tall
>>> bridges - but funnily enough I've never had a problem with
>>> the Million Dollar highway or some of the jeep trails out
>>> in Colorado.
>>>
>>
>>Likewise - I can take my climbing tree stand out in the woods and climb up
>>30' in a tree and be just fine. Get me driving over those really high
>>bridges and it's not so much! Get me on a ladder - ain't happening. Get me
>>near a window in a skyscraper - no freakin' way. Like I said earlier - I
>>can't even take seeing that crap on TV. Wierd - ain't it?
>
>Then I know where you will never be Mike, the Sears Tower (now renamed
>Willis Tower I think) has a room with a glass floor that sticks out a
>bit, or the glass bridge over the Grand Canyon.

Doesn't the "Sears Tower" have that tilt out thingy. You lean against
it and they tilt it out over the edge? One recently cracked/crazed
with people on it. Rather shocked a few people but "they were in no
danger". ;-)

SW

Spalted Walt

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

08/03/2015 8:30 PM

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 09:56:04 -0400, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>John McCoy wrote:
>> Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> Way back in the 60's when the scrapers were starting to rise in
>>> Honolulu I had a friend there that cleaned the windows. He was
>>> on the top as he did many a building in N.Y. and found the need
>>> in a vacation spot. He normally worked 2 days a week and sometimes
>>> three. He got combat + pay there. The job added a day to train
>>> others.
>>
>> In college I had a friend who paid his way thru changing
>> light bulbs on radio towers. He only worked a few days
>> per semester.
>>
>
>There are some youtube videos of these guys that climb those towers to
>perform maintenance. At points near the top, they are not even harnassed to
>the tower as they climb. Insane! Have no idea how they can do this stuff -
>drives me nuts just watching the video.

Agreed, and the helmet-cam perspective is more than I can stomach.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A_h2AjJaMw#t=43

Mm

Markem

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

07/03/2015 2:12 PM

On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 11:11:24 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 08:51:22 -0600, Markem <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>>Then I know where you will never be Mike, the Sears Tower (now renamed
>>Willis Tower I think) has a room with a glass floor that sticks out a
>>bit, or the glass bridge over the Grand Canyon.
>
>Just be ready to run if it starts to wobble, flex, and slowly bend.
>You'll have about 1/100000 of a second to get off of it.
>
>I think I'd go out in the tower, but until I do, I'm not going to
>brag. I know how glass works and if it goes, you are gone.

I believe the glass in the tower will withstand being shot with an
AK-47, at least that what I heard (remember?).

ME

Martin Eastburn

in reply to Dave Balderstone on 05/03/2015 9:50 PM

07/03/2015 10:42 PM

Way back in the 60's when the scrapers were starting to rise in
Honolulu I had a friend there that cleaned the windows. He was
on the top as he did many a building in N.Y. and found the need
in a vacation spot. He normally worked 2 days a week and sometimes
three. He got combat + pay there. The job added a day to train
others.

Martin

On 3/7/2015 9:56 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 9:50:40 AM UTC-5, Markem wrote:
>> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 00:15:52 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> John McCoy wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Heights generally bother me - I hate driving across tall
>>>> bridges - but funnily enough I've never had a problem with
>>>> the Million Dollar highway or some of the jeep trails out
>>>> in Colorado.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Likewise - I can take my climbing tree stand out in the woods and climb up
>>> 30' in a tree and be just fine. Get me driving over those really high
>>> bridges and it's not so much! Get me on a ladder - ain't happening. Get me
>>> near a window in a skyscraper - no freakin' way. Like I said earlier - I
>>> can't even take seeing that crap on TV. Wierd - ain't it?
>>
>> Then I know where you will never be Mike, the Sears Tower (now renamed
>> Willis Tower I think) has a room with a glass floor that sticks out a
>> bit, or the glass bridge over the Grand Canyon.
>
> I saw a show about a building that had small glass "rooms" that extended outside the building. The floors, walls and ceilings were all glass. They were built on tracks so that they could be brought in flush with the exterior wall for 2 reasons:
>
> 1 - So that the exterior surfaces of the glass could be cleaned.
> 2 - So that they didn't interfere with the automatic window washing system.
>
> http://www.steam-brite.com/images/IPC-Eagle-HIgh-rise-3M10-HR302-Self-climbing-high-rise-window-cleaning-machine_a_.jpg.jpg
>


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