Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 9/20/2012 9:35 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 9/20/2012 8:15 AM, dadiOH wrote:
>>> CW wrote:
>>>>> Who will Win?
>>> Doesn't matter, we lose either way.
>
>> +1
>
> Let's see, we have an anti-American communist vs a pro-American
> capitalist, and we "lose either way". The contrast is fairly large even
> if Romney is too liberal for you, Obummer can't be "not red" enough.
>
> If we lose either way, what would make you think we could win?
>
> I give that answer a -4, not a + anything, regardless of your particular persuasion.
Tried to get on an airplane lately, or take photos of police in action, or
just act like you're going to dance at the Washington monument, or know for
sure whether the food you buy is non adulterated/GMO, or belong to a co-op
that sells raw goat milk to the owners without an up-close and personal
SWAT visit, or get raided because you got shipped some legal hardwood for
guitar fretboards, or wonder why all that military equipment is going to
the local police, or watched your kid at college get pepper sprayed for
sitting on a sidewalk on campus, or been waited on by some ill educated,
surly minimum wage asshole who can barely speak the language, no matter
where they came from, or got .95 cents interest on a $6000 bank balance, or
somehow think you actually own your home, until you forget to pay a
property tax, or don't know you can't even hold your elected
representatives to task for those property tax appraisals, ad fucking
infinitum??
The reality, Bubba, is you've already lost regardless of who won the last
twenty elections ... just too fucking stupid to realize it.
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On 9/20/2012 1:16 PM, CW wrote:
>
>
> "Swingman" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> On 9/20/2012 10:45 AM, CW wrote:
>> So the best thing to do is become a grumpy old fart that bitches "it
>> isn't like the old days" and just waits to die. Got ya.
>
> Nope, you just think you do ...
>
> The reality, and one thing political leaders can count on, is that those
> who have lost a freedom previously granted to their forefathers, but
> lost to their generation before they were born, too young to know, or
> through ignorance, have little chance to ever fight successfully to
> regain it.
> ==============================================================================
>
> So, you want the next generation to listen to the grumpy old fart before
> he dies.
Age is small part of it, simply because it equates with an increase in
experience and perspective ... the preponderance is all to do with
having sufficient intelligence and education to recognize, and remark
upon, what the ignorant miss for lack of both.
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dadiOH wrote:
>
> No, we got stuck with it because masses of voters wanted "gimmees" as
> long as they came from the pockets of someone else.
>
I disagree. I believe we got stuck with all that crap because people who
should have known better fell prey to the notion that if they embraced all
of these new ways of thinking, that they were "enlightened". Anything to be
different from the ways that our predecessors were. Anything different was
enlightened and anyone who held fast to old thinking was antediluvian. Hell
you can see that right here in this group. Those people fell into line with
the new thinking because they feared being labled as old fashioned and
unenlightened. So - they did stupid things like vote for "hope" when there
was nothing more to that platform than the word itself. And "change". They
did not even have a hope they could articulate, which could be accomplished
by a government, nor did they even have a definition for change and why that
change would be better. Stupid people is what got us here.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:14:05 -0400, Keith Nuttle <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 9/21/2012 8:40 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:08:08 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> dadiOH wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, we got stuck with it because masses of voters wanted "gimmees" as
>>>> long as they came from the pockets of someone else.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I disagree. I believe we got stuck with all that crap because people who
>>> should have known better fell prey to the notion that if they embraced all
>>> of these new ways of thinking, that they were "enlightened". Anything to be
>>> different from the ways that our predecessors were. Anything different was
>>> enlightened and anyone who held fast to old thinking was antediluvian. Hell
>>> you can see that right here in this group. Those people fell into line with
>>> the new thinking because they feared being labled as old fashioned and
>>> unenlightened. So - they did stupid things like vote for "hope" when there
>>> was nothing more to that platform than the word itself. And "change". They
>>> did not even have a hope they could articulate, which could be accomplished
>>> by a government, nor did they even have a definition for change and why that
>>> change would be better. Stupid people is what got us here.
>>
>> +1
>>
>> And few have wised up.
>>
>I hope so because the country can not stand another four years of
>community organization. Community organization has increased the
>national debt by 6 trillion dollars, created the highest poverty level
>in decades, Unemployment has been over 8% for over 3.5 years. The
>federal government had become the largest employer in the country. We
>have a health care plan that we had to approve it before we were allowed
>to see what was in it and it is so convoluted we that 3 years later we
>still don't know. Per obama own words he has done nothing in four years
>because everything that happens, is someone else fault.
>
>Mr Romney brings experience the White House. He has the ability to
>analyses problems and develop working solutions that will improve the
>situation.
>
>We have demonstrable proof of his abilities in all of the successful
>profitable companies that he has assist or owns part interest, such as
>Toys R Us
>Dunkin Donuts ,
>TWC and Clear Channel
>Dominos Pizza
>Sealy Corporation (this includes Sterns and Foster Mattress)
>Hospital Corporation of America (HCA)
>
>To name a few. From the list of successful companies he knows how to
>create jobs.
>
>We also have evidence in his abilities to work out problems from his tax
>returns. If he did not have the ability to analyses problems and work
>out good solutions, he would not have the money he has.
>
>He does not have to blame some one else for his failures, because they
>are minimal.
The problem is that only a few have wised up. Will it be enough or do we look
for the bottom of the abyss?
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 9/20/2012 9:35 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 9/20/2012 8:15 AM, dadiOH wrote:
>>>> CW wrote:
>>>>>> Who will Win?
>>>> Doesn't matter, we lose either way.
>>
>>> +1
>>
>> Let's see, we have an anti-American communist vs a pro-American
>> capitalist, and we "lose either way". The contrast is fairly large even
>> if Romney is too liberal for you, Obummer can't be "not red" enough.
>>
>> If we lose either way, what would make you think we could win?
>>
>> I give that answer a -4, not a + anything, regardless of your particular
>> persuasion.
>
> Tried to get on an airplane lately, or take photos of police in action, or
> just act like you're going to dance at the Washington monument, or know
> for
> sure whether the food you buy is non adulterated/GMO, or belong to a co-op
> that sells raw goat milk to the owners without an up-close and personal
> SWAT visit, or get raided because you got shipped some legal hardwood for
> guitar fretboards, or wonder why all that military equipment is going to
> the local police, or watched your kid at college get pepper sprayed for
> sitting on a sidewalk on campus, or been waited on by some ill educated,
> surly minimum wage asshole who can barely speak the language, no matter
> where they came from, or got .95 cents interest on a $6000 bank balance,
> or
> somehow think you actually own your home, until you forget to pay a
> property tax, or don't know you can't even hold your elected
> representatives to task for those property tax appraisals, ad fucking
> infinitum??
>
> The reality, Bubba, is you've already lost regardless of who won the last
> twenty elections ... just too fucking stupid to realize it.
+10.
But I believe you under-stated the situation....
Also, minimum wage assholes have a semi-right to be surly.... LOL
But still, +10, at least.
We had a shot with JFK, RFK..... terrible pun, not intended.
But, well, they got shot....
--
EA
>
> --
> www.ewoodshop.com
Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:59:46 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 9/20/2012 10:45 AM, CW wrote:
>>> So the best thing to do is become a grumpy old fart that bitches "it
>>> isn't like the old days" and just waits to die. Got ya.
>>
>> Nope, you just think you do ...
>>
>> The reality, and one thing political leaders can count on, is that
>> those who have lost a freedom previously granted to their
>> forefathers, but lost to their generation before they were born, too
>> young to know, or through ignorance, have little chance to ever
>> fight successfully to regain it.
>
> Until the populace finally gets fed up and rips 'em a new asshole.
> Methinks that day is coming soon. Are you stocked up for the interim?
> Food, water, tools, shelter, and enough ammo to defend it all for
> several months?
>
> Hopefully, our military recognizes that it's a cleansing action by We,
> The People, against "enemies domestic" and they stay out of it.
You are whacked! Seek help.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 9/21/2012 10:16 AM, Jack wrote:
> On 9/20/2012 11:05 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On 9/20/2012 9:35 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>> On 9/20/2012 8:15 AM, dadiOH wrote:
>>>>> CW wrote:
>>>>>>> Who will Win?
>>>>> Doesn't matter, we lose either way.
>>>
>>>> +1
>>>
>>> Let's see, we have an anti-American communist vs a pro-American
>>> capitalist, and we "lose either way". The contrast is fairly large even
>>> if Romney is too liberal for you, Obummer can't be "not red" enough.
>>>
>>> If we lose either way, what would make you think we could win?
>>>
>>> I give that answer a -4, not a + anything, regardless of your
>>> particular persuasion.
>>
>> Tried to get on an airplane lately, or take photos of police in
>> action, or
>> just act like you're going to dance at the Washington monument, or
>> know for
>> sure whether the food you buy is non adulterated/GMO, or belong to a
>> co-op
>> that sells raw goat milk to the owners without an up-close and personal
>> SWAT visit, or get raided because you got shipped some legal hardwood for
>> guitar fretboards, or wonder why all that military equipment is going to
>> the local police, or watched your kid at college get pepper sprayed for
>> sitting on a sidewalk on campus, or been waited on by some ill educated,
>> surly minimum wage asshole who can barely speak the language, no matter
>> where they came from, or got .95 cents interest on a $6000 bank
>> balance, or
>> somehow think you actually own your home, until you forget to pay a
>> property tax, or don't know you can't even hold your elected
>> representatives to task for those property tax appraisals, ad fucking
>> infinitum??
>>
>> The reality, Bubba, is you've already lost regardless of who won the last
>> twenty elections ... just too fucking stupid to realize it.
>
> The reality bubba, is one party fully supports all those wonders of
> which you speak, and the other party supports them much less... you are
> just too fucking stupid to realize there is a difference, and how you
> vote matters. Worse, those that do support all that stuff are hoping
> those that don't stay home, discouraged, apathetic and ignorant, as it
> just doesn't matter.
>
> This, with the help of a socialist media and educational system is how
> we got stuck with all that good stuff in the first place.
>
If you think your vote matters you are certainly part of the problem.
Change will come with a third or fourth party or after the revolution.
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:37:20 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 9/20/2012 10:22 AM, Dave wrote:
>
>> With an outlook like that, pretty well the only thing you can hope for
>> is that you die off before it gets much worse.
>>
>> The*really* sad part about it is that all of it maybe true. That's
>> pretty depressing.
>
>It is what it is ... just try having been called to serve, and having to
>actually fight/put your life at risk for your country, and then see how
>you feel about the current state of affairs brought on by an apathetic,
>purposely dumbed down population.
>
>Those without an age based perspective, and who are ignorant to boot,
>have little idea what they've lost; and thanks to a marginal, at best,
>education system, have none of the historical perspective necessary to
>even begin to dig their way out.
Perhaps it is ironic that Oswald shot Kennedy from the Texas school
book repository, given what the Texas requirements for books have done
to our education system.
"Swingman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On 9/20/2012 1:16 PM, CW wrote:
>
>
> "Swingman" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> On 9/20/2012 10:45 AM, CW wrote:
>> So the best thing to do is become a grumpy old fart that bitches "it
>> isn't like the old days" and just waits to die. Got ya.
>
> Nope, you just think you do ...
>
> The reality, and one thing political leaders can count on, is that those
> who have lost a freedom previously granted to their forefathers, but
> lost to their generation before they were born, too young to know, or
> through ignorance, have little chance to ever fight successfully to
> regain it.
> ==============================================================================
>
> So, you want the next generation to listen to the grumpy old fart before
> he dies.
Age is small part of it, simply because it equates with an increase in
experience and perspective ... the preponderance is all to do with
having sufficient intelligence and education to recognize, and remark
upon, what the ignorant miss for lack of both.
====================================================================================
So, you want the next generation to listen to the grumpy old fart before
he dies.
"Leon" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On 9/20/2012 1:16 PM, CW wrote:
>
>
> "Swingman" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> On 9/20/2012 10:45 AM, CW wrote:
>> So the best thing to do is become a grumpy old fart that bitches "it
>> isn't like the old days" and just waits to die. Got ya.
>
> Nope, you just think you do ...
>
> The reality, and one thing political leaders can count on, is that those
> who have lost a freedom previously granted to their forefathers, but
> lost to their generation before they were born, too young to know, or
> through ignorance, have little chance to ever fight successfully to
> regain it.
> ==============================================================================
>
> So, you want the next generation to listen to the grumpy old fart before
> he dies.
So uh I think it goes something like this, if you don't learn from those
that experienced it/study history, it is destined to repeat it self.
=====================================================================================
Yes, everyone wants to listen to some grouchy old fuck telling them how the
country has gone to shit and they will never have as good a life as he had.
On 9/20/2012 11:13 AM, Dave wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:37:20 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> It is what it is ... just try having been called to serve, and having to
>> actually fight/put your life at risk for your country, and then see how
>> you feel about the current state of affairs brought on by an apathetic,
>> purposely dumbed down population.
>>
>> Those without an age based perspective, and who are ignorant to boot,
>> have little idea what they've lost; and thanks to a marginal, at best,
>> education system, have none of the historical perspective necessary to
>> even begin to dig their way out.
>
> We're prepared to let you migrate up to Canada, but between the
> winters and our system of government, I'm guessing your outlook would
> deteriorate even more. But, look on the bright side. Drugs are free up
> here so we will get you completely looped on anti-depressants and it
> won't cost you anything. :)
>
> Or, Estonia could be a solution. :)
> http://www.stateofworldliberty.org/report/rankings.html
It appears the point you're missing is the collective "you", not the
personal ...
I don't think you (collective) Canadian's would stand still for that ...
besides, little sense in jumping from a 2006 frying pan, into a 2012
fire. :)
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On 9/20/2012 10:22 AM, Dave wrote:
> With an outlook like that, pretty well the only thing you can hope for
> is that you die off before it gets much worse.
>
> The*really* sad part about it is that all of it maybe true. That's
> pretty depressing.
It is what it is ... just try having been called to serve, and having to
actually fight/put your life at risk for your country, and then see how
you feel about the current state of affairs brought on by an apathetic,
purposely dumbed down population.
Those without an age based perspective, and who are ignorant to boot,
have little idea what they've lost; and thanks to a marginal, at best,
education system, have none of the historical perspective necessary to
even begin to dig their way out.
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KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
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On 9/20/2012 10:45 AM, CW wrote:
> So the best thing to do is become a grumpy old fart that bitches "it
> isn't like the old days" and just waits to die. Got ya.
Nope, you just think you do ...
The reality, and one thing political leaders can count on, is that those
who have lost a freedom previously granted to their forefathers, but
lost to their generation before they were born, too young to know, or
through ignorance, have little chance to ever fight successfully to
regain it.
--
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Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
http://gplus.to/eWoodShop
On 9/20/2012 1:16 PM, CW wrote:
>
>
> "Swingman" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> On 9/20/2012 10:45 AM, CW wrote:
>> So the best thing to do is become a grumpy old fart that bitches "it
>> isn't like the old days" and just waits to die. Got ya.
>
> Nope, you just think you do ...
>
> The reality, and one thing political leaders can count on, is that those
> who have lost a freedom previously granted to their forefathers, but
> lost to their generation before they were born, too young to know, or
> through ignorance, have little chance to ever fight successfully to
> regain it.
> ==============================================================================
>
> So, you want the next generation to listen to the grumpy old fart before
> he dies.
So uh I think it goes something like this, if you don't learn from those
that experienced it/study history, it is destined to repeat it self.
"CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Leon" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> On 9/20/2012 1:16 PM, CW wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Swingman" wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> On 9/20/2012 10:45 AM, CW wrote:
>>> So the best thing to do is become a grumpy old fart that bitches "it
>>> isn't like the old days" and just waits to die. Got ya.
>>
>> Nope, you just think you do ...
>>
>> The reality, and one thing political leaders can count on, is that those
>> who have lost a freedom previously granted to their forefathers, but
>> lost to their generation before they were born, too young to know, or
>> through ignorance, have little chance to ever fight successfully to
>> regain it.
>> ==============================================================================
>>
>> So, you want the next generation to listen to the grumpy old fart before
>> he dies.
>
>
> So uh I think it goes something like this, if you don't learn from those
> that experienced it/study history, it is destined to repeat it self.
> =====================================================================================
> Yes, everyone wants to listen to some grouchy old fuck telling them how
> the country has gone to shit and they will never have as good a life as he had.
Obviously have your ear by the fact you keep replying. And while you're
listening, remember the losers rail at the messenger while their freedoms
erode from their apathy and ignorance.
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"Swingman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On 9/20/2012 10:22 AM, Dave wrote:
> With an outlook like that, pretty well the only thing you can hope for
> is that you die off before it gets much worse.
>
> The*really* sad part about it is that all of it maybe true. That's
> pretty depressing.
It is what it is ... just try having been called to serve, and having to
actually fight/put your life at risk for your country, and then see how
you feel about the current state of affairs brought on by an apathetic,
purposely dumbed down population.
Those without an age based perspective, and who are ignorant to boot,
have little idea what they've lost; and thanks to a marginal, at best,
education system, have none of the historical perspective necessary to
even begin to dig their way out.
==========================================================================
So the best thing to do is become a grumpy old fart that bitches "it isn't
like the old days" and just waits to die. Got ya.
"Swingman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On 9/20/2012 10:45 AM, CW wrote:
> So the best thing to do is become a grumpy old fart that bitches "it
> isn't like the old days" and just waits to die. Got ya.
Nope, you just think you do ...
The reality, and one thing political leaders can count on, is that those
who have lost a freedom previously granted to their forefathers, but
lost to their generation before they were born, too young to know, or
through ignorance, have little chance to ever fight successfully to
regain it.
==============================================================================
So, you want the next generation to listen to the grumpy old fart before he
dies.
On 9/20/2012 6:55 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "CW" wrote:
> ====================================================================================> So, you want the next generation to listen to the grumpy old fartbefore> he dies.----------------------------------------------Especially after having just returned from a trip to bull shitmountain.Lew
>
>
That is in California, right?
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:37:20 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>It is what it is ... just try having been called to serve, and having to
>actually fight/put your life at risk for your country, and then see how
>you feel about the current state of affairs brought on by an apathetic,
>purposely dumbed down population.
>
>Those without an age based perspective, and who are ignorant to boot,
>have little idea what they've lost; and thanks to a marginal, at best,
>education system, have none of the historical perspective necessary to
>even begin to dig their way out.
We're prepared to let you migrate up to Canada, but between the
winters and our system of government, I'm guessing your outlook would
deteriorate even more. But, look on the bright side. Drugs are free up
here so we will get you completely looped on anti-depressants and it
won't cost you anything. :)
Or, Estonia could be a solution. :)
http://www.stateofworldliberty.org/report/rankings.html
"Jack" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
On 9/20/2012 11:05 AM, Swingman wrote:
> Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 9/20/2012 9:35 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 9/20/2012 8:15 AM, dadiOH wrote:
>>>> CW wrote:
>>>>>> Who will Win?
>>>> Doesn't matter, we lose either way.
>>
>>> +1
>>
>> Let's see, we have an anti-American communist vs a pro-American
>> capitalist, and we "lose either way". The contrast is fairly large even
>> if Romney is too liberal for you, Obummer can't be "not red" enough.
>>
>> If we lose either way, what would make you think we could win?
>>
>> I give that answer a -4, not a + anything, regardless of your particular
>> persuasion.
>
> Tried to get on an airplane lately, or take photos of police in action, or
> just act like you're going to dance at the Washington monument, or know
> for
> sure whether the food you buy is non adulterated/GMO, or belong to a co-op
> that sells raw goat milk to the owners without an up-close and personal
> SWAT visit, or get raided because you got shipped some legal hardwood for
> guitar fretboards, or wonder why all that military equipment is going to
> the local police, or watched your kid at college get pepper sprayed for
> sitting on a sidewalk on campus, or been waited on by some ill educated,
> surly minimum wage asshole who can barely speak the language, no matter
> where they came from, or got .95 cents interest on a $6000 bank balance,
> or
> somehow think you actually own your home, until you forget to pay a
> property tax, or don't know you can't even hold your elected
> representatives to task for those property tax appraisals, ad fucking
> infinitum??
>
> The reality, Bubba, is you've already lost regardless of who won the last
> twenty elections ... just too fucking stupid to realize it.
The reality bubba, is one party fully supports all those wonders of
which you speak, and the other party supports them much less... you are
just too fucking stupid to realize there is a difference, and how you
vote matters. Worse, those that do support all that stuff are hoping
those that don't stay home, discouraged, apathetic and ignorant, as it
just doesn't matter.
This, with the help of a socialist media and educational system is how
we got stuck with all that good stuff in the first place.
================================================================================
+1
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:37:20 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 9/20/2012 10:22 AM, Dave wrote:
>
>> With an outlook like that, pretty well the only thing you can hope for
>> is that you die off before it gets much worse.
>>
>> The*really* sad part about it is that all of it maybe true. That's
>> pretty depressing.
>
>It is what it is ... just try having been called to serve, and having to
>actually fight/put your life at risk for your country, and then see how
>you feel about the current state of affairs brought on by an apathetic,
>purposely dumbed down population.
>
>Those without an age based perspective, and who are ignorant to boot,
>have little idea what they've lost; and thanks to a marginal, at best,
>education system, have none of the historical perspective necessary to
>even begin to dig their way out.
The scary part is most people don't see what is happening. The whole
food thing and Monsanto is out of control. Todays politicians are
just puppets.
Mike M
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:08:08 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>dadiOH wrote:
>
>>
>> No, we got stuck with it because masses of voters wanted "gimmees" as
>> long as they came from the pockets of someone else.
>>
>
>I disagree. I believe we got stuck with all that crap because people who
>should have known better fell prey to the notion that if they embraced all
>of these new ways of thinking, that they were "enlightened". Anything to be
>different from the ways that our predecessors were. Anything different was
>enlightened and anyone who held fast to old thinking was antediluvian. Hell
>you can see that right here in this group. Those people fell into line with
>the new thinking because they feared being labled as old fashioned and
>unenlightened. So - they did stupid things like vote for "hope" when there
>was nothing more to that platform than the word itself. And "change". They
>did not even have a hope they could articulate, which could be accomplished
>by a government, nor did they even have a definition for change and why that
>change would be better. Stupid people is what got us here.
+1
And few have wised up.
CW wrote:
> "Swingman" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> On 9/20/2012 1:16 PM, CW wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Swingman" wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> On 9/20/2012 10:45 AM, CW wrote:
>>> So the best thing to do is become a grumpy old fart that bitches "it
>>> isn't like the old days" and just waits to die. Got ya.
>>
>> Nope, you just think you do ...
>>
>> The reality, and one thing political leaders can count on, is that
>> those who have lost a freedom previously granted to their
>> forefathers, but lost to their generation before they were born, too
>> young to know, or through ignorance, have little chance to ever
>> fight successfully to regain it.
>> ==============================================================================
>>
>> So, you want the next generation to listen to the grumpy old fart
>> before he dies.
>
> Age is small part of it, simply because it equates with an increase in
> experience and perspective ... the preponderance is all to do with
> having sufficient intelligence and education to recognize, and remark
> upon, what the ignorant miss for lack of both.
> ====================================================================================
> So, you want the next generation to listen to the grumpy old fart
> before he dies.
If you did, you might learn something.
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On 9/20/2012 11:05 AM, Swingman wrote:
> Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 9/20/2012 9:35 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 9/20/2012 8:15 AM, dadiOH wrote:
>>>> CW wrote:
>>>>>> Who will Win?
>>>> Doesn't matter, we lose either way.
>>
>>> +1
>>
>> Let's see, we have an anti-American communist vs a pro-American
>> capitalist, and we "lose either way". The contrast is fairly large even
>> if Romney is too liberal for you, Obummer can't be "not red" enough.
>>
>> If we lose either way, what would make you think we could win?
>>
>> I give that answer a -4, not a + anything, regardless of your particular persuasion.
>
> Tried to get on an airplane lately, or take photos of police in action, or
> just act like you're going to dance at the Washington monument, or know for
> sure whether the food you buy is non adulterated/GMO, or belong to a co-op
> that sells raw goat milk to the owners without an up-close and personal
> SWAT visit, or get raided because you got shipped some legal hardwood for
> guitar fretboards, or wonder why all that military equipment is going to
> the local police, or watched your kid at college get pepper sprayed for
> sitting on a sidewalk on campus, or been waited on by some ill educated,
> surly minimum wage asshole who can barely speak the language, no matter
> where they came from, or got .95 cents interest on a $6000 bank balance, or
> somehow think you actually own your home, until you forget to pay a
> property tax, or don't know you can't even hold your elected
> representatives to task for those property tax appraisals, ad fucking
> infinitum??
>
> The reality, Bubba, is you've already lost regardless of who won the last
> twenty elections ... just too fucking stupid to realize it.
The reality bubba, is one party fully supports all those wonders of
which you speak, and the other party supports them much less... you are
just too fucking stupid to realize there is a difference, and how you
vote matters. Worse, those that do support all that stuff are hoping
those that don't stay home, discouraged, apathetic and ignorant, as it
just doesn't matter.
This, with the help of a socialist media and educational system is how
we got stuck with all that good stuff in the first place.
--
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Jack wrote:
> On 9/20/2012 11:05 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On 9/20/2012 9:35 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>> On 9/20/2012 8:15 AM, dadiOH wrote:
>>>>> CW wrote:
>>>>>>> Who will Win?
>>>>> Doesn't matter, we lose either way.
>>>
>>>> +1
>>>
>>> Let's see, we have an anti-American communist vs a pro-American
>>> capitalist, and we "lose either way". The contrast is fairly large
>>> even if Romney is too liberal for you, Obummer can't be "not red"
>>> enough.
>>>
>>> If we lose either way, what would make you think we could win?
>>>
>>> I give that answer a -4, not a + anything, regardless of your
>>> particular persuasion.
>>
>> Tried to get on an airplane lately, or take photos of police in
>> action, or just act like you're going to dance at the Washington
>> monument, or know for sure whether the food you buy is non
>> adulterated/GMO, or belong to a co-op that sells raw goat milk to
>> the owners without an up-close and personal SWAT visit, or get
>> raided because you got shipped some legal hardwood for guitar
>> fretboards, or wonder why all that military equipment is going to
>> the local police, or watched your kid at college get pepper sprayed
>> for sitting on a sidewalk on campus, or been waited on by some ill
>> educated, surly minimum wage asshole who can barely speak the
>> language, no matter where they came from, or got .95 cents interest
>> on a $6000 bank balance, or somehow think you actually own your
>> home, until you forget to pay a property tax, or don't know you
>> can't even hold your elected representatives to task for those
>> property tax appraisals, ad fucking infinitum?? The reality, Bubba, is
>> you've already lost regardless of who won the
>> last twenty elections ... just too fucking stupid to realize it.
>
> The reality bubba, is one party fully supports all those wonders of
> which you speak, and the other party supports them much less... you
> are just too fucking stupid to realize there is a difference, and how
> you vote matters. Worse, those that do support all that stuff are
> hoping those that don't stay home, discouraged, apathetic and
> ignorant, as it just doesn't matter.
>
> This, with the help of a socialist media and educational system is how
> we got stuck with all that good stuff in the first place.
No, we got stuck with it because masses of voters wanted "gimmees" as long
as they came from the pockets of someone else.
Offer it and they will take it.
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On 9/21/2012 8:40 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:08:08 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> dadiOH wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> No, we got stuck with it because masses of voters wanted "gimmees" as
>>> long as they came from the pockets of someone else.
>>>
>>
>> I disagree. I believe we got stuck with all that crap because people who
>> should have known better fell prey to the notion that if they embraced all
>> of these new ways of thinking, that they were "enlightened". Anything to be
>> different from the ways that our predecessors were. Anything different was
>> enlightened and anyone who held fast to old thinking was antediluvian. Hell
>> you can see that right here in this group. Those people fell into line with
>> the new thinking because they feared being labled as old fashioned and
>> unenlightened. So - they did stupid things like vote for "hope" when there
>> was nothing more to that platform than the word itself. And "change". They
>> did not even have a hope they could articulate, which could be accomplished
>> by a government, nor did they even have a definition for change and why that
>> change would be better. Stupid people is what got us here.
>
> +1
>
> And few have wised up.
>
I hope so because the country can not stand another four years of
community organization. Community organization has increased the
national debt by 6 trillion dollars, created the highest poverty level
in decades, Unemployment has been over 8% for over 3.5 years. The
federal government had become the largest employer in the country. We
have a health care plan that we had to approve it before we were allowed
to see what was in it and it is so convoluted we that 3 years later we
still don't know. Per obama own words he has done nothing in four years
because everything that happens, is someone else fault.
Mr Romney brings experience the White House. He has the ability to
analyses problems and develop working solutions that will improve the
situation.
We have demonstrable proof of his abilities in all of the successful
profitable companies that he has assist or owns part interest, such as
Toys R Us
Dunkin Donuts ,
TWC and Clear Channel
Dominos Pizza
Sealy Corporation (this includes Sterns and Foster Mattress)
Hospital Corporation of America (HCA)
To name a few. From the list of successful companies he knows how to
create jobs.
We also have evidence in his abilities to work out problems from his tax
returns. If he did not have the ability to analyses problems and work
out good solutions, he would not have the money he has.
He does not have to blame some one else for his failures, because they
are minimal.
On 9/21/2012 12:52 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 9/21/2012 10:16 AM, Jack wrote:
>> On 9/20/2012 11:05 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>> Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On 9/20/2012 9:35 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>>> On 9/20/2012 8:15 AM, dadiOH wrote:
>>>>>> CW wrote:
>>>>>>>> Who will Win?
>>>>>> Doesn't matter, we lose either way.
>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> Let's see, we have an anti-American communist vs a pro-American
>>>> capitalist, and we "lose either way". The contrast is fairly large
>>>> even
>>>> if Romney is too liberal for you, Obummer can't be "not red" enough.
>>>>
>>>> If we lose either way, what would make you think we could win?
>>>>
>>>> I give that answer a -4, not a + anything, regardless of your
>>>> particular persuasion.
>>>
>>> Tried to get on an airplane lately, or take photos of police in
>>> action, or
>>> just act like you're going to dance at the Washington monument, or
>>> know for
>>> sure whether the food you buy is non adulterated/GMO, or belong to a
>>> co-op
>>> that sells raw goat milk to the owners without an up-close and personal
>>> SWAT visit, or get raided because you got shipped some legal hardwood
>>> for
>>> guitar fretboards, or wonder why all that military equipment is going to
>>> the local police, or watched your kid at college get pepper sprayed for
>>> sitting on a sidewalk on campus, or been waited on by some ill educated,
>>> surly minimum wage asshole who can barely speak the language, no matter
>>> where they came from, or got .95 cents interest on a $6000 bank
>>> balance, or
>>> somehow think you actually own your home, until you forget to pay a
>>> property tax, or don't know you can't even hold your elected
>>> representatives to task for those property tax appraisals, ad fucking
>>> infinitum??
>>>
>>> The reality, Bubba, is you've already lost regardless of who won the
>>> last
>>> twenty elections ... just too fucking stupid to realize it.
>>
>> The reality bubba, is one party fully supports all those wonders of
>> which you speak, and the other party supports them much less... you are
>> just too fucking stupid to realize there is a difference, and how you
>> vote matters. Worse, those that do support all that stuff are hoping
>> those that don't stay home, discouraged, apathetic and ignorant, as it
>> just doesn't matter.
>>
>> This, with the help of a socialist media and educational system is how
>> we got stuck with all that good stuff in the first place.
>>
>
> See what I mean ... some are so politically dense that they don't even
> recognize when they're preaching to the choir.
I responded to what you said, not what your heart strings may have
wished you sang.
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On 9/21/2012 2:31 PM, Leon wrote:
> If you think your vote matters you are certainly part of the problem.
Wow!
> Change will come with a third or fourth party or after the revolution.
There are already more than two parties. Fortunately none of them
matter much. When they do, they serve only to insure the minority view
prevails. How that would make your vote matter would be quite
enlightening.
--
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On 9/22/2012 9:00 AM, Jack wrote:
> On 9/21/2012 12:52 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 9/21/2012 10:16 AM, Jack wrote:
>>> On 9/20/2012 11:05 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>> Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> On 9/20/2012 9:35 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/20/2012 8:15 AM, dadiOH wrote:
>>>>>>> CW wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Who will Win?
>>>>>>> Doesn't matter, we lose either way.
>>>>>
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's see, we have an anti-American communist vs a pro-American
>>>>> capitalist, and we "lose either way". The contrast is fairly large
>>>>> even
>>>>> if Romney is too liberal for you, Obummer can't be "not red" enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> If we lose either way, what would make you think we could win?
>>>>>
>>>>> I give that answer a -4, not a + anything, regardless of your
>>>>> particular persuasion.
>>>>
>>>> Tried to get on an airplane lately, or take photos of police in
>>>> action, or
>>>> just act like you're going to dance at the Washington monument, or
>>>> know for
>>>> sure whether the food you buy is non adulterated/GMO, or belong to a
>>>> co-op
>>>> that sells raw goat milk to the owners without an up-close and personal
>>>> SWAT visit, or get raided because you got shipped some legal hardwood
>>>> for
>>>> guitar fretboards, or wonder why all that military equipment is
>>>> going to
>>>> the local police, or watched your kid at college get pepper sprayed for
>>>> sitting on a sidewalk on campus, or been waited on by some ill
>>>> educated,
>>>> surly minimum wage asshole who can barely speak the language, no matter
>>>> where they came from, or got .95 cents interest on a $6000 bank
>>>> balance, or
>>>> somehow think you actually own your home, until you forget to pay a
>>>> property tax, or don't know you can't even hold your elected
>>>> representatives to task for those property tax appraisals, ad fucking
>>>> infinitum??
>>>>
>>>> The reality, Bubba, is you've already lost regardless of who won the
>>>> last
>>>> twenty elections ... just too fucking stupid to realize it.
>>>
>>> The reality bubba, is one party fully supports all those wonders of
>>> which you speak, and the other party supports them much less... you are
>>> just too fucking stupid to realize there is a difference, and how you
>>> vote matters. Worse, those that do support all that stuff are hoping
>>> those that don't stay home, discouraged, apathetic and ignorant, as it
>>> just doesn't matter.
>>>
>>> This, with the help of a socialist media and educational system is how
>>> we got stuck with all that good stuff in the first place.
>>>
>>
>> See what I mean ... some are so politically dense that they don't even
>> recognize when they're preaching to the choir.
>
> I responded to what you said, not what your heart strings may have
> wished you sang.
Wrong again .. you responded, through the filter of your ignorance of
what was under discussion, to what you think/wished I had said.
Go ahead, try to argue with history, but you will lose ... again.
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:26:07 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>It appears the point you're missing is the collective "you", not the
>personal ...
No, I got the point completely. I just don't have any other choice
except to view it on a personal level. Kind of makes your point,
doesn't it?
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:05:33 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>Tried to get on an airplane lately, or take photos of police in action, or
>just act like you're going to dance at the Washington monument, or know for
>sure whether the food you buy is non adulterated/GMO, or belong to a co-op
>that sells raw goat milk to the owners without an up-close and personal
>SWAT visit, or get raided because you got shipped some legal hardwood for
>guitar fretboards, or wonder why all that military equipment is going to
>the local police, or watched your kid at college get pepper sprayed for
>sitting on a sidewalk on campus, or been waited on by some ill educated,
>surly minimum wage asshole who can barely speak the language, no matter
>where they came from, or got .95 cents interest on a $6000 bank balance, or
>somehow think you actually own your home, until you forget to pay a
>property tax, or don't know you can't even hold your elected
>representatives to task for those property tax appraisals, ad fucking
>infinitum??
>The reality, Bubba, is you've already lost regardless of who won the last
>twenty elections ... just too fucking stupid to realize it.
Hell Karl, don't beat around the bush, tell people exactly how you
feel about your entire society in general.
With an outlook like that, pretty well the only thing you can hope for
is that you die off before it gets much worse.
The *really* sad part about it is that all of it maybe true. That's
pretty depressing.
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 22:00:44 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 9/20/2012 6:55 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> "CW" wrote:
>>
>> ====================================================================================>
>> So, you want the next generation to listen to the grumpy old fartbefore>
>> he dies.----------------------------------------------Especially after
>> having just returned from a trip to bull shitmountain.Lew
>>
>That is in California, right?
No, that's Magic Mountain. I've actually BEEN there! Unless Lew was
talking about his home.
P.S: When's CW going to get a -usable- Usenet program,
====================================================================================
Thank Lew for the format cluster.
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 22:00:44 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 9/20/2012 6:55 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> "CW" wrote:
>> ====================================================================================> So, you want the next generation to listen to the grumpy old fartbefore> he dies.----------------------------------------------Especially after having just returned from a trip to bull shitmountain.Lew
>>
>That is in California, right?
No, that's Magic Mountain. I've actually BEEN there! Unless Lew was
talking about his home.
P.S: When's CW going to get a -usable- Usenet program, anyway?
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On 9/21/2012 10:16 AM, Jack wrote:
> On 9/20/2012 11:05 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On 9/20/2012 9:35 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>> On 9/20/2012 8:15 AM, dadiOH wrote:
>>>>> CW wrote:
>>>>>>> Who will Win?
>>>>> Doesn't matter, we lose either way.
>>>
>>>> +1
>>>
>>> Let's see, we have an anti-American communist vs a pro-American
>>> capitalist, and we "lose either way". The contrast is fairly large even
>>> if Romney is too liberal for you, Obummer can't be "not red" enough.
>>>
>>> If we lose either way, what would make you think we could win?
>>>
>>> I give that answer a -4, not a + anything, regardless of your
>>> particular persuasion.
>>
>> Tried to get on an airplane lately, or take photos of police in
>> action, or
>> just act like you're going to dance at the Washington monument, or
>> know for
>> sure whether the food you buy is non adulterated/GMO, or belong to a
>> co-op
>> that sells raw goat milk to the owners without an up-close and personal
>> SWAT visit, or get raided because you got shipped some legal hardwood for
>> guitar fretboards, or wonder why all that military equipment is going to
>> the local police, or watched your kid at college get pepper sprayed for
>> sitting on a sidewalk on campus, or been waited on by some ill educated,
>> surly minimum wage asshole who can barely speak the language, no matter
>> where they came from, or got .95 cents interest on a $6000 bank
>> balance, or
>> somehow think you actually own your home, until you forget to pay a
>> property tax, or don't know you can't even hold your elected
>> representatives to task for those property tax appraisals, ad fucking
>> infinitum??
>>
>> The reality, Bubba, is you've already lost regardless of who won the last
>> twenty elections ... just too fucking stupid to realize it.
>
> The reality bubba, is one party fully supports all those wonders of
> which you speak, and the other party supports them much less... you are
> just too fucking stupid to realize there is a difference, and how you
> vote matters. Worse, those that do support all that stuff are hoping
> those that don't stay home, discouraged, apathetic and ignorant, as it
> just doesn't matter.
>
> This, with the help of a socialist media and educational system is how
> we got stuck with all that good stuff in the first place.
>
See what I mean ... some are so politically dense that they don't even
recognize when they're preaching to the choir.
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:59:46 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 9/20/2012 10:45 AM, CW wrote:
>> So the best thing to do is become a grumpy old fart that bitches "it
>> isn't like the old days" and just waits to die. Got ya.
>
>Nope, you just think you do ...
>
>The reality, and one thing political leaders can count on, is that those
>who have lost a freedom previously granted to their forefathers, but
>lost to their generation before they were born, too young to know, or
>through ignorance, have little chance to ever fight successfully to
>regain it.
Until the populace finally gets fed up and rips 'em a new asshole.
Methinks that day is coming soon. Are you stocked up for the interim?
Food, water, tools, shelter, and enough ammo to defend it all for
several months?
Hopefully, our military recognizes that it's a cleansing action by We,
The People, against "enemies domestic" and they stay out of it.
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On 9/20/2012 11:36 AM, Dave wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:26:07 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> It appears the point you're missing is the collective "you", not the
>> personal ...
>
> No, I got the point completely. I just don't have any other choice
> except to view it on a personal level.
Only if you insist on having a myopic view on "freedom" ...
> Kind of makes your point, doesn't it?
Not at all ... see above.
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On 9/20/2012 11:58 AM, Markem wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:37:20 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 9/20/2012 10:22 AM, Dave wrote:
>>
>>> With an outlook like that, pretty well the only thing you can hope for
>>> is that you die off before it gets much worse.
>>>
>>> The*really* sad part about it is that all of it maybe true. That's
>>> pretty depressing.
>>
>> It is what it is ... just try having been called to serve, and having to
>> actually fight/put your life at risk for your country, and then see how
>> you feel about the current state of affairs brought on by an apathetic,
>> purposely dumbed down population.
>>
>> Those without an age based perspective, and who are ignorant to boot,
>> have little idea what they've lost; and thanks to a marginal, at best,
>> education system, have none of the historical perspective necessary to
>> even begin to dig their way out.
>
> Perhaps it is ironic that Oswald shot Kennedy from the Texas school
> book repository, given what the Texas requirements for books have done
> to our education system.
Can't argue with you there ...
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In article <[email protected]>, CW
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Who will Win?
Calgary. Durant still isn't at full strength after his hip injury, and
Calgary's hungry.
I'm a Riders' fan, but they just don't have it this year.
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Steve Barker <[email protected]> wrote in news:FM-
[email protected]:
> On 9/20/2012 1:04 AM, CW wrote:
>> Who will Win?
>
>
> Win what?
>
It's a race between Me, Myself, and I. I'm pulling for Me, myself. I has
a lot of supporters, and they usually vote positively. Soon we'll know if
the I's have it.
Puckdropper
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Doug Miller wrote:
> "CW" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Who will Win?
>
> Doesn't matter who takes the ALCS, the Nationals will win the Series
> in six.
Wait a minute - isn't this about the Chase?
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Doug Miller <[email protected]> writes:
>[email protected] (Scott Lurndal) wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>> Doug Miller <[email protected]> writes:
>>>"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> Who will Win?
>>>
>>>Doesn't matter who takes the ALCS, the Nationals will win the Series in six.
>>
>> They must first get past the Giants;
>
>That won't be hard. The Nationals have won five of six from the Giants this season.
That just means that the Giants are due to win ... Timmy and Matty seem to be back
in form, and Barry Zito has been impressive this year. Giants are 8-2 over the last
10 games, and the Nationals are just 5-5; the Giants can still end up with NLCS home
field advantage if they keep it up. Go Dodgers (just tonight).
>
>> who are going to repeat 2010 and beat
>> the Rangers in the series.
>
>Keep dreaming...
Dreaming would be predicting another earthquake series between the A's and the Giants.
scott
"Bob Martin" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
in 1538638 20120920 070452 "CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Who will Win?
Who cares?
==========================================================
This was supposed to go somewhere else, not this group.
"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Who will Win?
Doesn't matter who takes the ALCS, the Nationals will win the Series in six.
[email protected] (Scott Lurndal) wrote in news:[email protected]:
> Doug Miller <[email protected]> writes:
>>"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> Who will Win?
>>
>>Doesn't matter who takes the ALCS, the Nationals will win the Series in six.
>
> They must first get past the Giants;
That won't be hard. The Nationals have won five of six from the Giants this season.
> who are going to repeat 2010 and beat
> the Rangers in the series.
Keep dreaming...
[email protected] (Scott Lurndal) wrote in news:[email protected]:
> Doug Miller <[email protected]> writes:
>>[email protected] (Scott Lurndal) wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> Doug Miller <[email protected]> writes:
>>>>"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> Who will Win?
>>>>
>>>>Doesn't matter who takes the ALCS, the Nationals will win the Series in six.
>>>
>>> They must first get past the Giants;
>>
>>That won't be hard. The Nationals have won five of six from the Giants this season.
>
> That just means that the Giants are due to win ...
I believe that's what statisticians refer to as the Gambler's Fallacy.
> Timmy and Matty seem to be back
> in form, and Barry Zito has been impressive this year. Giants are 8-2 over the last
> 10 games, and the Nationals are just 5-5;
Dude, look at their opponents. Seven of the Giants' last ten games, and six of those eight
wins, have been against the second-worst team in the majors (the Colorado Rockies). The
Nationals have been playing slightly stiffer competition.
The Giants lead their division only because they play in the weakest division in baseball.
That 85-63 record would leave them in second place in either of the other divisions in the
NL.
>the Giants can still end up with NLCS home
> field advantage if they keep it up. Go Dodgers (just tonight).
The Giants won't even reach the NLCS this year unless at least two miracles occur. The first
they need is for St. Louis to beat Atlanta in the wild-card game -- that way, Washington's
victim -- ummm, I mean opponent -- in the NLDS would be the Cardinals instead of the
Giants. Of course, that means the Giants would need a second miracle -- beating the Reds
in the NLDS -- to make it to the NLCS.
Ain't gonna happen.
The Giants are a mediocre team leading baseball's weakest division. They look good in
September, sure, but look who their games have been against in the last four weeks or so:
the Astros (3-0), the Cubs (2-1), the Rockies (6-1), the Diamondbacks (3-3), the Dodgers (2-
1) -- only *one* team in the lot with a record over .500. Hell, a good college team could beat
the Astros, Rockies, or Cubs this year. Do the Giants have a winning record against anyone
with a winning record?
in 1538638 20120920 070452 "CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Who will Win?
Who cares?
Doug Miller <[email protected]> writes:
>"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> Who will Win?
>
>Doesn't matter who takes the ALCS, the Nationals will win the Series in six.
They must first get past the Giants; who are going to repeat 2010 and beat
the Rangers in the series.
On 9/20/2012 9:35 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 9/20/2012 8:15 AM, dadiOH wrote:
>> CW wrote:
>>> >Who will Win?
>> Doesn't matter, we lose either way.
> +1
Let's see, we have an anti-American communist vs a pro-American
capitalist, and we "lose either way". The contrast is fairly large even
if Romney is too liberal for you, Obummer can't be "not red" enough.
If we lose either way, what would make you think we could win?
I give that answer a -4, not a + anything, regardless of your particular
persuasion.
--
Jack
Got Change: Supply and Demand ======> Command and Control!
http://jbstein.com
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 13:06:43 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 9/20/2012 9:20 AM, Jack wrote:
>> On 9/20/2012 9:35 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 9/20/2012 8:15 AM, dadiOH wrote:
>>>> CW wrote:
>>>>> >Who will Win?
>>>> Doesn't matter, we lose either way.
>>
>>> +1
>>
>> Let's see, we have an anti-American communist vs a pro-American
>> capitalist, and we "lose either way". The contrast is fairly large even
>> if Romney is too liberal for you, Obummer can't be "not red" enough.
>>
>> If we lose either way, what would make you think we could win?
>>
>> I give that answer a -4, not a + anything, regardless of your particular
>> persuasion.
>>
>
>
>The only people that win in elections are candidates. As I have said
>before, voting gives the voter pretty much the same satisfaction and
>results that the red button on a squeak toy does for a one year old.
>Voting is merely a formality before the next in line takes over control.
>
>Now if only those that hold office could be held accountable and voted
>out. And if you have no investment in the country you don't vote.
+1
On 9/20/2012 9:20 AM, Jack wrote:
> On 9/20/2012 9:35 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 9/20/2012 8:15 AM, dadiOH wrote:
>>> CW wrote:
>>>> >Who will Win?
>>> Doesn't matter, we lose either way.
>
>> +1
>
> Let's see, we have an anti-American communist vs a pro-American
> capitalist, and we "lose either way". The contrast is fairly large even
> if Romney is too liberal for you, Obummer can't be "not red" enough.
>
> If we lose either way, what would make you think we could win?
>
> I give that answer a -4, not a + anything, regardless of your particular
> persuasion.
>
The only people that win in elections are candidates. As I have said
before, voting gives the voter pretty much the same satisfaction and
results that the red button on a squeak toy does for a one year old.
Voting is merely a formality before the next in line takes over control.
Now if only those that hold office could be held accountable and voted
out. And if you have no investment in the country you don't vote.