RG

"Richard G"

23/06/2004 8:04 PM

Sheldons Engineering's impeller for budget blower

I read the very informative Bill Pentz's site
(http://billpentz.com//woodworking/cyclone/BudBlower.cfm) on dust collectors
and followed his recomnandations for a Cyclone. I'm almost done putting it
together, but I'm still waiting for the impeller that was ordered from
Sheldons Engineering.

Did anyone order the 14" impeller from Sheldons? It was ordered May 5, 2004
(3 weeks ago) and I haven't heard from them. They don't answer e-mails or
faxes. They ask for a Paypal transfer so they have my money.

Richard




This topic has 9 replies

RG

"Richard G"

in reply to "Richard G" on 23/06/2004 8:04 PM

25/06/2004 6:31 PM

My brother is an electric contractor and he's going to take care of that
part. Look at the Electrical section on Steve Cater's site
(http://www.digitalnetworks.ca/~stevecater/wood/Cyclone.htm) for some
details on his solution. He used a 30A dedicated purpose contactor and X10
module. $400 is certainly way too expensive, a contactor with switching coil
@220V should be in the 20-30$ range.

I found that gathering infos and parts was the most time consuming part of
this project. A dust free woodworking shop is worth the effort though.

Richard


"James Dean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi Richard,
>
> what's your start stop mechanism and are you using a remote?
>
> I found a start stop (I've got a 5 hp too.) from Oneida-air.com for $400
and
> would rather look around 1st for another cheaper option. Having problems
> finding a start stop that uses a remote for the 5 hp. motor that ends up
> being relatively cheap.
>
> sorry to ask a different question in this thread but I can't figure out
how
> to reply to Richard only, keeps asking for a new user pass or something
when
> I do that, got around it by replying to the group.
>
> thanks
>
> lb.

JS

"John Sellers"

in reply to "Richard G" on 23/06/2004 8:04 PM

23/06/2004 9:22 PM


"Richard G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I read the very informative Bill Pentz's site
> (http://billpentz.com//woodworking/cyclone/BudBlower.cfm) on dust
collectors
> and followed his recomnandations for a Cyclone. I'm almost done
putting it
> together, but I'm still waiting for the impeller that was ordered
from
> Sheldons Engineering.
>
> Did anyone order the 14" impeller from Sheldons? It was ordered May
5, 2004
> (3 weeks ago) and I haven't heard from them. They don't answer
e-mails or
> faxes. They ask for a Paypal transfer so they have my money.
>
> Richard


I had the same problem when ordering my impeller from Sheldons. They
cashed my check, and never sent the impeller. I telephoned, spoke
with Paul Patton, and he said the order apparently never got entered
back to their shipping department. I waited another two weeks, called
again, and got the same story. After the fourth or fifth call, Paul
told me he was just going to send an impeller. I received it about 3
days later. But it took about 10 weeks overall to get it.
Apparently, they have some internal communication problems.

Call them directly. (800)265-3572

Hope this helps,
John Sellers

RG

"Richard G"

in reply to "Richard G" on 23/06/2004 8:04 PM

24/06/2004 12:10 PM

As long as I know that it's going to be shipped, it's fine. I understand
that Sheldons doesn't usually sell to the general public, but it shouldn't
be hard to confirm the order and shipping date.

I made my cyclone using Clarke Echols' kit
(http://billpentz.com//woodworking/cyclone/ClarkesKits.cfm). I made the
blower using Bill Pentz's design, with a 5 HP Leeson #120554 motor and (when
I finally get it) Sheldons Engineering's 14" impeller.

Clarke's kit is very good, the instructions are detailed but there are some
discrepencies. If you're using this kit, I could give you some pointers. If
someone is considering buying the kit or making his cyclone from scratch,
I'd be happy to discuss the pros and cons of both choices if they'd like.

I spent a considerable amount of time reading all the threads I could find
on the subject and the invaluable material on Bill's site. As I can
understand, it is (or it was) an ongoing project for Bill and the design
evolved over the months/years. Some of the information on the site refers to
past designs and no longer applies. It gets confusing at times. For example,
some of the blower pictures show the old design and some show the new
design. The spiral layout has also changed. Steve Cater's site
(http://www.digitalnetworks.ca/~stevecater/wood/Cyclone.htm) shows the older
design.

Richard

"James "Cubby" Culbertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Call them. I found their email response was a bit slow. It did take
some
> time to get
> mine delivered (forget how long now but it was weeks, not days). I
ordered
> around summer time
> last year. Haven't gotten around to building the cyclone yet but I've
got
> all the parts ready
> to go. I'd be curious to hear how your construction went, any tips you
> have, etc....
> Cheers,
> cc

JD

"James Dean"

in reply to "Richard G" on 23/06/2004 8:04 PM

27/06/2004 1:04 AM

Sorry,

havn't had a chance to come back till now.

Thanks all for your advice. I'm on it!

I knew $400 was to much.


"LP" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 19:16:25 +0000, [email protected]
> (Robert Bonomi) wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> >James Dean <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>Hi Richard,
> >>
> >>what's your start stop mechanism and are you using a remote?
> >>
> >>I found a start stop (I've got a 5 hp too.) from Oneida-air.com for $400
and
> >>would rather look around 1st for another cheaper option. Having problems
> >>finding a start stop that uses a remote for the 5 hp. motor that ends up
> >>being relatively cheap.
> >>
> >
> >Surplus Sales of Nebraska <http://www.surplussales.com> has heavy-duty
> >relay sets for not much money. which can be 'operated' by any sort
> >of light-duty remote control -- e.g. X-10, or maybe even a 'Clapper'.
> >
> Home Depot is selling a remote control unit for about (IIRC) $15 that
> will work also. Meant for light duty, I'm sure, but should power a
> 120V relay coil with no problem.

bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to "Richard G" on 23/06/2004 8:04 PM

25/06/2004 7:16 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
James Dean <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi Richard,
>
>what's your start stop mechanism and are you using a remote?
>
>I found a start stop (I've got a 5 hp too.) from Oneida-air.com for $400 and
>would rather look around 1st for another cheaper option. Having problems
>finding a start stop that uses a remote for the 5 hp. motor that ends up
>being relatively cheap.
>

Surplus Sales of Nebraska <http://www.surplussales.com> has heavy-duty
relay sets for not much money. which can be 'operated' by any sort
of light-duty remote control -- e.g. X-10, or maybe even a 'Clapper'.

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "Richard G" on 23/06/2004 8:04 PM

24/06/2004 12:40 AM

Richard G wrote:

> I read the very informative Bill Pentz's site
> (http://billpentz.com//woodworking/cyclone/BudBlower.cfm) on dust
> collectors and followed his recomnandations for a Cyclone. I'm almost done
> putting it together, but I'm still waiting for the impeller that was
> ordered from Sheldons Engineering.
>
> Did anyone order the 14" impeller from Sheldons? It was ordered May 5,
> 2004 (3 weeks ago) and I haven't heard from them. They don't answer
> e-mails or faxes. They ask for a Paypal transfer so they have my money.

I ordered back in April and it arrived last week. They did answer my email.

> Richard

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Ll

LP

in reply to "Richard G" on 23/06/2004 8:04 PM

26/06/2004 6:53 AM

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 19:16:25 +0000, [email protected]
(Robert Bonomi) wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
>James Dean <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Hi Richard,
>>
>>what's your start stop mechanism and are you using a remote?
>>
>>I found a start stop (I've got a 5 hp too.) from Oneida-air.com for $400 and
>>would rather look around 1st for another cheaper option. Having problems
>>finding a start stop that uses a remote for the 5 hp. motor that ends up
>>being relatively cheap.
>>
>
>Surplus Sales of Nebraska <http://www.surplussales.com> has heavy-duty
>relay sets for not much money. which can be 'operated' by any sort
>of light-duty remote control -- e.g. X-10, or maybe even a 'Clapper'.
>
Home Depot is selling a remote control unit for about (IIRC) $15 that
will work also. Meant for light duty, I'm sure, but should power a
120V relay coil with no problem.

JD

"James Dean"

in reply to "Richard G" on 23/06/2004 8:04 PM

25/06/2004 1:20 PM

Hi Richard,

what's your start stop mechanism and are you using a remote?

I found a start stop (I've got a 5 hp too.) from Oneida-air.com for $400 and
would rather look around 1st for another cheaper option. Having problems
finding a start stop that uses a remote for the 5 hp. motor that ends up
being relatively cheap.

sorry to ask a different question in this thread but I can't figure out how
to reply to Richard only, keeps asking for a new user pass or something when
I do that, got around it by replying to the group.

thanks

lb.


"Richard G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> As long as I know that it's going to be shipped, it's fine. I understand
> that Sheldons doesn't usually sell to the general public, but it shouldn't
> be hard to confirm the order and shipping date.
>
> I made my cyclone using Clarke Echols' kit
> (http://billpentz.com//woodworking/cyclone/ClarkesKits.cfm). I made the
> blower using Bill Pentz's design, with a 5 HP Leeson #120554 motor and
(when
> I finally get it) Sheldons Engineering's 14" impeller.
>
> Clarke's kit is very good, the instructions are detailed but there are
some
> discrepencies. If you're using this kit, I could give you some pointers.
If
> someone is considering buying the kit or making his cyclone from scratch,
> I'd be happy to discuss the pros and cons of both choices if they'd like.
>
> I spent a considerable amount of time reading all the threads I could find
> on the subject and the invaluable material on Bill's site. As I can
> understand, it is (or it was) an ongoing project for Bill and the design
> evolved over the months/years. Some of the information on the site refers
to
> past designs and no longer applies. It gets confusing at times. For
example,
> some of the blower pictures show the old design and some show the new
> design. The spiral layout has also changed. Steve Cater's site
> (http://www.digitalnetworks.ca/~stevecater/wood/Cyclone.htm) shows the
older
> design.
>
> Richard
>
> "James "Cubby" Culbertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Call them. I found their email response was a bit slow. It did take
> some
> > time to get
> > mine delivered (forget how long now but it was weeks, not days). I
> ordered
> > around summer time
> > last year. Haven't gotten around to building the cyclone yet but I've
> got
> > all the parts ready
> > to go. I'd be curious to hear how your construction went, any tips you
> > have, etc....
> > Cheers,
> > cc
>
>

JC

"James \"Cubby\" Culbertson"

in reply to "Richard G" on 23/06/2004 8:04 PM

23/06/2004 6:44 PM

Call them. I found their email response was a bit slow. It did take some
time to get
mine delivered (forget how long now but it was weeks, not days). I ordered
around summer time
last year. Haven't gotten around to building the cyclone yet but I've got
all the parts ready
to go. I'd be curious to hear how your construction went, any tips you
have, etc....
Cheers,
cc

"Richard G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I read the very informative Bill Pentz's site
> (http://billpentz.com//woodworking/cyclone/BudBlower.cfm) on dust
collectors
> and followed his recomnandations for a Cyclone. I'm almost done putting it
> together, but I'm still waiting for the impeller that was ordered from
> Sheldons Engineering.
>
> Did anyone order the 14" impeller from Sheldons? It was ordered May 5,
2004
> (3 weeks ago) and I haven't heard from them. They don't answer e-mails or
> faxes. They ask for a Paypal transfer so they have my money.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>


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