RH

Rob H.

20/06/2013 1:05 AM

What is it? Set 498

Just posted this week's set:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/



Rob


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jj

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

20/06/2013 4:51 AM


> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

2899 - Marking gauge for multiple settings ... Appears to be craftsman
made

2903 - Corner chisel for cleaning out mortises .... Here are some high
end ones:

http://www.lie-nielsen.com/catalog.php?sku=corner

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=30011&cat=1,41504,41541&ap=1

TS

Ted Schuerzinger

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

20/06/2013 7:42 AM

On 20 Jun 2013 01:05:58 -0700, Rob H. wrote:

> Just posted this week's set:

2902: Dental torture instruments. At least, that's what *I'd* use them
for.

--
Ted S.
fedya at hughes dot net
Now blogging at http://justacineast.blogspot.com

SM

"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

20/06/2013 8:25 AM

2899, multiple probe depth gage. beyond that, no ide what is the use.=20
2900, don't know.=20
2901, don't know.=20
2902, don't know.=20
2903, probably a chisel for cutting wood doors, for mortise locks.=20
2905, don't know.=20
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Just posted this week's set:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/



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woodchucker

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

20/06/2013 8:50 PM

On 6/20/2013 4:05 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> Just posted this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Rob
>
Well, this week was pretty easy, you all seemed to get most so I won't
repeat.

2904. A noise maker, put a piece of card stock in the clip and spin it
around to make noise on New years or some festive occasion.

--
Jeff

SM

"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

23/06/2013 7:40 AM

Posting from my desk top PC as always.=20

Thanks, Rob. That's a lot of fun. I learn a bit, too. What's the =
payback? How many resharpens does it take to cover the cost of the tool? =

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>2904 A single edge razor blade sharpener.



Razor blade sharpener is correct, my link in the answer for this one =
shows the=20
missing leather stropper that goes on the round piece.

Still not sure about the second item but the rest of them were all =
answered=20
correctly.=20

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2013/06/set-498.html#answers


Rob

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"G. Ross"

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

20/06/2013 9:34 PM

Rob H. wrote:
> Just posted this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Rob
>
2904 A single edge razor blade sharpener.

--
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 Ignorance can be cured -- but stupid 
 is forever. 





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lektric dan

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

20/06/2013 1:32 AM

On Jun 20, 2:05=A0am, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just posted this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

2903. corner chisel. Used to make 90 degree cut at the corner of an
inset, such as is made to set a hinge. The bevel is to the inside of
the angle, if it were on the outside, it would be a BAV (Big Awesome
Veiner)

jB

j Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

20/06/2013 4:50 AM

On 6/20/13 4:05 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> Just posted this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Rob
>
2901: I suppose the first two would be called plumb squares and the
third a plumb level. (The spirit level was invented in 1661 and became
common in the 19th Century.)

jB

j Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

20/06/2013 5:24 AM

On 6/20/13 4:05 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> Just posted this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Rob
>
2900: I wonder if it might be a float to measure the density of a sample
of fuel oil. That way, they'd know if they were getting the kind of oil
they paid for. The density might also have told them how to set their
boilers. If it ever came unscrewed, it might have been for the
manufacturer to add a certain amount of lead.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

20/06/2013 12:44 PM

In article <e8aa751a-8625-473f-9ae0-6cc0adac8bd9@k10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
lektric dan says...
>
>On Jun 20, 2:05=A0am, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Just posted this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Rob
>
>2903. corner chisel. Used to make 90 degree cut at the corner of an
>inset, such as is made to set a hinge. The bevel is to the inside of
>the angle, if it were on the outside, it would be a BAV (Big Awesome
>Veiner)


Corner chisel is correct.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

20/06/2013 12:46 PM

In article <[email protected]>, j Burns says...
>
>On 6/20/13 4:05 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> Just posted this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>2901: I suppose the first two would be called plumb squares and the
>third a plumb level. (The spirit level was invented in 1661 and became
>common in the 19th Century.)


Yes, I was told the first two were plumb squares, I never got a name for the
third
but plumb level sounds good to me.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

20/06/2013 12:50 PM

In article <0585a6c0-8719-4e9c-a1df-ad291cec9e4c@z20g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
[email protected] says...
>
>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>2899 - Marking gauge for multiple settings ... Appears to be craftsman
>made


Correct, I had seen a similar tool but it had only one setscrew for multiple
gauges.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

20/06/2013 12:51 PM


>>http://55tools.blogspot.com/



>2902 Trammel points


This answer is correct.

jB

j Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

20/06/2013 9:25 PM

On 6/20/13 5:24 AM, j Burns wrote:
> On 6/20/13 4:05 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> Just posted this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
> 2900: I wonder if it might be a float to measure the density of a sample
> of fuel oil. That way, they'd know if they were getting the kind of oil
> they paid for. The density might also have told them how to set their
> boilers. If it ever came unscrewed, it might have been for the
> manufacturer to add a certain amount of lead.

I'm inspired with another guess! A pin to hold a watertight door open!
Doors on a freighter should normally be left closed for protection
from fire and sinking. If a ship's officer goes into a compartment and
closes the door behind him, they may be unable to find him if they need
him. Besides, he may want fresh air. So he carries a pin on a fob with
his initials. Then crewmen know the door was intentionally left open,
and they can find him quickly.

If the captain sees the officer without his fob on his uniform, he knows
the officer has left a door pinned open. Maybe the captain saved this
one as a keepsake from a friend with the initials SE.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

21/06/2013 12:13 AM


>> Correct, I had seen a similar tool but it had only one setscrew for multiple
>> gauges.
>>
>
>This was the first thing that I thought about when I saw this tool. Since
>no one else has mentioned the Lee Valley version, here it is:
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=51633&cat=1,42936
>
>Note: Check page two of its description.


Pretty funny, they have some good products, good to see they have a sense of
humor.

AT

Alexander Thesoso

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

21/06/2013 11:53 AM

On 6/21/2013 3:13 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>>> Correct, I had seen a similar tool but it had only one setscrew for multiple
>>> gauges.
>>>
>>
>> This was the first thing that I thought about when I saw this tool. Since
>> no one else has mentioned the Lee Valley version, here it is:
>>
>> http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=51633&cat=1,42936
>>
>> Note: Check page two of its description.
>
>
> Pretty funny, they have some good products, good to see they have a sense of
> humor.
>
I was very much impressed with the skill and professionalism in their
AFD pages. A lot of work went into their preparation.

jB

j Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

21/06/2013 3:52 PM

On 6/20/13 10:51 PM, DoN. Nichols wrote:
> On 2013-06-20, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Just posted this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.
>

> 2900) If it were from earlier, I would consider it to possibly be a
> container for needles for stitching up sails. Not sure what a
> merchant marine would put in there. Maybe salt or some other
> seasoning?
>
> As for opening it -- take two pieces of wood, drill holes which
> are a slip fit near for the each of the two diameters one end of
> each, cut a slot in the wood from the long end to the hole, and
> when you squeeze the sides of the handle together, it will grip
> the surface without distorting it.
>
> Is it steel, or silver? (Check with a magnet.)
>
I have a triple beam desktop scale where one can suspend an object by a
thread to measure its weight in a container of water to calculate the
density. If it's solid steel, I'd think it must be a pin to keep
something mechanical from moving. On a ship, you probably wouldn't need
a padlock to keep somebody from removing such a pin: just a fob with the
initials of the authority who had disabled the device.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

21/06/2013 12:48 PM


>2904 A single edge razor blade sharpener.



Razor blade sharpener is correct, my link in the answer for this one shows the
missing leather stropper that goes on the round piece.

Still not sure about the second item but the rest of them were all answered
correctly.

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2013/06/set-498.html#answers


Rob

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

21/06/2013 3:00 PM


>> Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.
>>
>
>> 2900) If it were from earlier, I would consider it to possibly be a
>> container for needles for stitching up sails. Not sure what a
>> merchant marine would put in there. Maybe salt or some other
>> seasoning?
>>
>> As for opening it -- take two pieces of wood, drill holes which
>> are a slip fit near for the each of the two diameters one end of
>> each, cut a slot in the wood from the long end to the hole, and
>> when you squeeze the sides of the handle together, it will grip
>> the surface without distorting it.
>>
>> Is it steel, or silver? (Check with a magnet.)
>>
>I have a triple beam desktop scale where one can suspend an object by a
>thread to measure its weight in a container of water to calculate the
>density. If it's solid steel, I'd think it must be a pin to keep
>something mechanical from moving. On a ship, you probably wouldn't need
>a padlock to keep somebody from removing such a pin: just a fob with the
>initials of the authority who had disabled the device.


I asked the owner if it was solid or hollow but haven't heard back yet. I was
thinking it could be a match safe to keep them dry while on a ship.

jB

j Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

22/06/2013 3:34 PM

On 6/21/13 6:00 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>>> Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.
>>>
>>
>>> 2900) If it were from earlier, I would consider it to possibly be a
>>> container for needles for stitching up sails. Not sure what a
>>> merchant marine would put in there. Maybe salt or some other
>>> seasoning?
>>>
>>> As for opening it -- take two pieces of wood, drill holes which
>>> are a slip fit near for the each of the two diameters one end of
>>> each, cut a slot in the wood from the long end to the hole, and
>>> when you squeeze the sides of the handle together, it will grip
>>> the surface without distorting it.
>>>
>>> Is it steel, or silver? (Check with a magnet.)
>>>
>> I have a triple beam desktop scale where one can suspend an object by a
>> thread to measure its weight in a container of water to calculate the
>> density. If it's solid steel, I'd think it must be a pin to keep
>> something mechanical from moving. On a ship, you probably wouldn't need
>> a padlock to keep somebody from removing such a pin: just a fob with the
>> initials of the authority who had disabled the device.
>
>
> I asked the owner if it was solid or hollow but haven't heard back yet. I was
> thinking it could be a match safe to keep them dry while on a ship.
>
Match safe! I hadn't thought of that. In that case (no pun!), it might
be from the 19th Century. Joshua Pusey invented book matches in 1879
because his match safe spoiled the appearance of his suit. Advertising
appeared on book matches in 1897, and that greatly increased production.
Lighter flints went into production in 1907. In WWI, I've read of
soldiers using book matches and lighters but not stick matches. The
Zippo, known for being windproof and reliable, came out in 1932.

In "The Sand Pebbles," a worker inside a steam engine was killed because
a saboteur had removed the locking mechanism. The author had been an
engineer on a similar vessel. If the danger was known, one would want a
tamper-proof pin. Perhaps the groove described by the owner was made
for a slotted plate to engage. Put the pin in, slide the plate on, and
screw the plate down with tamper-proof screws. The ship's engineer
would have the special screwdriver. Perhaps SE stands for Ship's
Engineer. If it's solid, that's my guess!

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

24/06/2013 1:05 AM

In article <[email protected]>, Stormin Mormon says...
>
>Posting from my desk top PC as always.
>
>Thanks, Rob. That's a lot of fun. I learn a bit, too. What's the
>payback? How many resharpens does it take to cover the cost of the tool?


This isn't my tool so I don't have an answer for you, I guess razor blades used
to
be more expensive because there were a lot of sharpeners on the market.

jB

j Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

24/06/2013 6:14 PM

On 6/24/13 4:05 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Stormin Mormon says...
>>
>> Posting from my desk top PC as always.
>>
>> Thanks, Rob. That's a lot of fun. I learn a bit, too. What's the
>> payback? How many resharpens does it take to cover the cost of the tool?
>
>
> This isn't my tool so I don't have an answer for you, I guess razor blades used
> to
> be more expensive because there were a lot of sharpeners on the market.
>
In 1904, a dozen Gillette blades cost $1. In terms of the cost of
living, that was like $25 today. In terms of wages, it was more. Many
weren't paid $1 for a day's work.

I remember Blue Blades. The first shave was likely to cause pulling and
nicks and leave incomplete results. The second shave was worse. I
would have bought a sharpening device.

EH

Ed Huntress

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

24/06/2013 11:43 PM

On 25 Jun 2013 03:35:07 GMT, "DoN. Nichols" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 2013-06-24, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>, Stormin Mormon says...
>>>
>>>Posting from my desk top PC as always.
>>>
>>>Thanks, Rob. That's a lot of fun. I learn a bit, too. What's the
>>>payback? How many resharpens does it take to cover the cost of the tool?
>>
>>
>> This isn't my tool so I don't have an answer for you, I guess razor blades used
>> to
>> be more expensive because there were a lot of sharpeners on the market.
>
> Razor blades were scarce and rationed (like anything else
>needed) during WW-II, so ways to make them last longer were desirable.
>One trick with a double-edged blade was to drop it in a glass tumbler,
>and (with the blade edges vertical) slide it around inside the walls.
>This I learned from my uncle, who was a Navy flyer during the Korean
>war.
>
> Also -- GIs were likely to be posted where the blades were even
>more difficult to come by -- so even if they were not too expensive,
>having a way to sharpen them was useful. (Or -- things to make them
>last longer, like the Burma Shave whose signs took over the roadside for
>a while.
>
> Enjoy,
> DoN.

One type I remember -- one of my uncles had one when I was a kid --
was a little hard Arkansas stone with a plano-concave hollow in one
side. It was just a little wider than a double-edged blade and maybe
twice as long.

You laid the blade in there, pushed in down in the middle with one
finger to bend it a bit, and then work the blade around in a circle.
Then you flipped the blade to do the other side.

--
Ed Huntress

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

20/06/2013 1:41 PM

Rob H. <[email protected]> writes:
>Just posted this week's set:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>

2899 Marking Gauge. Maintains five settings.
2901 Plumb Bob
2902 Trammel points
2903 Corner Chisel

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

21/06/2013 2:51 AM

On 2013-06-20, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just posted this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

2899) Looks like a tool for scribing a number of lines parallel to the
edge of a piece of wood. Scribe one line (using the hex wood
block sliding along the edge), then rotate it to the next flat
and scribe the next, until all are done.

Since all the adjustment pulls seem at the same level, yet the
scribe points at the other end are in steps of something like
1" spacing, based on the 8" overall length., it looks like that is the default
spacing of the lines -- though you can loosen one of the "tuning
pegs" and slide a scribe to a different depth.

Since there is apparently no "tuning peg" on the bottom-most
flat, it is for five parallel lines, and may be related to a
music staff -- though why you would want to make one in wood is
not clear -- other than for decorative purposes.

2900) If it were from earlier, I would consider it to possibly be a
container for needles for stitching up sails. Not sure what a
merchant marine would put in there. Maybe salt or some other
seasoning?

As for opening it -- take two pieces of wood, drill holes which
are a slip fit near for the each of the two diameters one end of
each, cut a slot in the wood from the long end to the hole, and
when you squeeze the sides of the handle together, it will grip
the surface without distorting it.

Is it steel, or silver? (Check with a magnet.)

2901) These are a set of levels -- most for horizontal or vertical
surface checks, though the last is for horizontal surfaces only.

The longer the distance from pivot to plumb bob, the more
resolution.

2902) These look like two scribe points for some form of trammel
(like a divider, but all mounted on a beam instead of a hinged
pair of legs.) The center one could hold a larger pivot point
to fit into an existing hole.

2903) A wood-turning chisel -- apparently to make a sharp
right-angled corner.

2904) An optical tool for sure. It looks as though it is intended to
accept a narrow beam from below (assuming the handle is
vertical), deflect it to something held in the clip, and it
looks like it will hold a single-edged razor blade, likely for
the knife-edge test of a mirror lens being made for an
astronomical telescope.

It is probably made to be sold to amateur telescope makers.

Maybe it it held with the handle down, and the eye above looking
down on the 45-degree mirror (probably first-surface).

I am surprised that the cavity surrounding the 45-degree mirror
is not painted flat black.

2838) So -- someone finally identified this one. Thanks.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

25/06/2013 3:35 AM

On 2013-06-24, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Stormin Mormon says...
>>
>>Posting from my desk top PC as always.
>>
>>Thanks, Rob. That's a lot of fun. I learn a bit, too. What's the
>>payback? How many resharpens does it take to cover the cost of the tool?
>
>
> This isn't my tool so I don't have an answer for you, I guess razor blades used
> to
> be more expensive because there were a lot of sharpeners on the market.

Razor blades were scarce and rationed (like anything else
needed) during WW-II, so ways to make them last longer were desirable.
One trick with a double-edged blade was to drop it in a glass tumbler,
and (with the blade edges vertical) slide it around inside the walls.
This I learned from my uncle, who was a Navy flyer during the Korean
war.

Also -- GIs were likely to be posted where the blades were even
more difficult to come by -- so even if they were not too expensive,
having a way to sharpen them was useful. (Or -- things to make them
last longer, like the Burma Shave whose signs took over the roadside for
a while.

Enjoy,
DoN.

--
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Dan Coby

in reply to Rob H. on 20/06/2013 1:05 AM

20/06/2013 9:46 PM

On 6/20/2013 12:50 PM, Rob H. wrote:
> In article <0585a6c0-8719-4e9c-a1df-ad291cec9e4c@z20g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> 2899 - Marking gauge for multiple settings ... Appears to be craftsman
>> made
>
>
> Correct, I had seen a similar tool but it had only one setscrew for multiple
> gauges.
>

This was the first thing that I thought about when I saw this tool. Since
no one else has mentioned the Lee Valley version, here it is:

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=51633&cat=1,42936

Note: Check page two of its description.




Dan


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