next to this on the shelf was acrylic lacquer
this stuff didn't have any general classification and i asked the young fellow
and he was very confident but eventually admitted he did not know
i am calling it acrylic enamel
http://www.rustoleum.com/product-catalog/consumer-brands/painters-touch-ultra-cover-2x/clear/
i am lacking in finishing knowledge and skills and found this out the hard way
Recoat: Within 1 hour or after 48 hours
I was not recoating within an hour and was not waiting 48 so sanding
was bad
i have it worked out now and it is a nice hard finish
On 10/12/2015 4:51 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:45:50 -0400
> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yea , with rustoleum products, if you don't do b4 1 hour or after 48,
>> you wind up with the gassing off causing a really poor finish. I did
>> it one time and found out too.
>
> i was ending up producing small balls when i sanded instead of dust
>
>>
>> Just follow the directions and your fine.
>
> the writing is in at least two languages and is tiny so i wing it
>
>> I don't use painters touch, but use rustoleum. Dries nice and hard
>> too over time.
>
> this is rustoleum
>
>
it's rustoleum in that it's from the same company. But Rustoleum is oil
based, and what you are using is not.
you need to sand the stuff with a lubricant. Either soapy water, or
something like sikkens m600 paint prep. But I would never sand soon
after. It needs to cure.
--
Jeff
On 10/12/2015 5:35 PM, John McCoy wrote:
> Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> i am calling it acrylic enamel
>
> Rustoleum appears to call it "Acrylic Modified Alkyd", so
> I'd say you're close enough to right.
>
> Going off on a tangent, has everyone noticed how useless
> Google has become as a search engine? Pretty much any
> query will give you a thousand places to buy whatever it
> is, but actually getting a link that describes a thing
> is now all but impossible.
>
> John
>
Swingman turned me on to Duck Duck go, I have never looked back.
Just like when I found Google b4 the masses. It was good back then.
When you find something that works, use it.
--
Jeff
On 10/12/2015 3:35 PM, John McCoy wrote:
> Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> i am calling it acrylic enamel
>
> Rustoleum appears to call it "Acrylic Modified Alkyd", so
> I'd say you're close enough to right.
>
> Going off on a tangent, has everyone noticed how useless
> Google has become as a search engine? Pretty much any
> query will give you a thousand places to buy whatever it
> is, but actually getting a link that describes a thing
> is now all but impossible.
>
I usually use Dogpile.com for my search engine. If you're looking for
product descriptions and reviews, Amazon.com does a decent job. For
descriptions including product specs, I'd try the manufacturer's website.
On 10/12/2015 12:18 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
> next to this on the shelf was acrylic lacquer
>
> this stuff didn't have any general classification and i asked the young fellow
> and he was very confident but eventually admitted he did not know
>
> i am calling it acrylic enamel
>
> http://www.rustoleum.com/product-catalog/consumer-brands/painters-touch-ultra-cover-2x/clear/
>
> i am lacking in finishing knowledge and skills and found this out the hard way
>
> Recoat: Within 1 hour or after 48 hours
>
> I was not recoating within an hour and was not waiting 48 so sanding
> was bad
>
> i have it worked out now and it is a nice hard finish
>
>
Yea , with rustoleum products, if you don't do b4 1 hour or after 48,
you wind up with the gassing off causing a really poor finish. I did it
one time and found out too.
Just follow the directions and your fine.
I don't use painters touch, but use rustoleum. Dries nice and hard too
over time.
--
Jeff
Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> i am calling it acrylic enamel
Rustoleum appears to call it "Acrylic Modified Alkyd", so
I'd say you're close enough to right.
Going off on a tangent, has everyone noticed how useless
Google has become as a search engine? Pretty much any
query will give you a thousand places to buy whatever it
is, but actually getting a link that describes a thing
is now all but impossible.
John
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:45:50 -0400, woodchucker <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 10/12/2015 12:18 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
>> next to this on the shelf was acrylic lacquer
>>
>> this stuff didn't have any general classification and i asked the young fellow
>> and he was very confident but eventually admitted he did not know
>>
>> i am calling it acrylic enamel
>>
>> http://www.rustoleum.com/product-catalog/consumer-brands/painters-touch-ultra-cover-2x/clear/
>>
>> i am lacking in finishing knowledge and skills and found this out the hard way
>>
>> Recoat: Within 1 hour or after 48 hours
>>
>> I was not recoating within an hour and was not waiting 48 so sanding
>> was bad
>>
>> i have it worked out now and it is a nice hard finish
>>
>>
>
>Yea , with rustoleum products, if you don't do b4 1 hour or after 48,
>you wind up with the gassing off causing a really poor finish. I did it
>one time and found out too.
>
>Just follow the directions and your fine.
>
>I don't use painters touch, but use rustoleum. Dries nice and hard too
>over time.
On a completely different tangent, the Rustoleum plant in Evanston
Illinois, was sold to Home Depot. I was living in that city at the
time, about 6 months after big orange opened they had to drive piles
inside of the building cause of all the crap Rustoleum buried on the
property. Later they were building a Steak and Shake in the parking
lot two days before opening all four walls collapsed.
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:45:50 -0400
woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yea , with rustoleum products, if you don't do b4 1 hour or after 48,
> you wind up with the gassing off causing a really poor finish. I did
> it one time and found out too.
i was ending up producing small balls when i sanded instead of dust
>
> Just follow the directions and your fine.
the writing is in at least two languages and is tiny so i wing it
> I don't use painters touch, but use rustoleum. Dries nice and hard
> too over time.
this is rustoleum
"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> Electric Comet wrote:
>> the writing is in at least two languages and is tiny so i wing it
>
> You don't have a magnifying glass?
In fairness to the Comet, magnifying glasses work much
better on flat surfaces than they do on cylinders such as
the spray can he's using.
John
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 21:35:17 +0000 (UTC)
John McCoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > i am calling it acrylic enamel
>
> Rustoleum appears to call it "Acrylic Modified Alkyd", so
> I'd say you're close enough to right.
now i wonder if that kid at the store cares enough to also look it up
> Going off on a tangent, has everyone noticed how useless
> Google has become as a search engine? Pretty much any
> query will give you a thousand places to buy whatever it
> is, but actually getting a link that describes a thing
> is now all but impossible.
have not used google in a long time
ixquick.com
startpage.com
and others that were mentioned
Electric Comet wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:45:50 -0400
> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yea , with rustoleum products, if you don't do b4 1 hour or after 48,
>> you wind up with the gassing off causing a really poor finish. I did
>> it one time and found out too.
>
> i was ending up producing small balls when i sanded instead of dust
If you recoat too soon the solvents in the new coat soften/eat/reticulate
the old coat. When it IS dry enought to sand, use silicon carbide paper wet
on a sanding block.
>> Just follow the directions and your fine.
>
> the writing is in at least two languages and is tiny so i wing it
You don't have a magnifying glass?
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 18:58:52 -0400
woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
> something like sikkens m600 paint prep. But I would never sand soon
> after. It needs to cure.
it does not like sanding until couple of days later but i got it for the
2x coverage
1 can does go a long away and it is cheap