On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 03:44:01 +0000, JMC
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I sanded this hollow door and I am putting clear polyurethane on, as the
>stain on them was very dark. I have 2 spots on one side (see picture) I'm
>not looking for perfect but how can I make it so there not so obvious
Paint the door?
Can't see the piictures - so unable to give much more help - but if
spots are light you COULD darken them with stain to match. If the
spots are dark you may be able to make the rest of the door match by
staining the rest of the door darker. Using a "toner" instead of a
penetrating stain allows you to build colour little at a time
(something like polyshades). I blended old and new trim, and even
mahogany and oak to match when I installed the new oak stair railing
on our main staircase using a "mission oak" polyshade product on the
oak and "honey oak" on the previously stained mahogany (had a
fruitwood oil stain applied 30 years ago with no "varnish" over the
stain)
replying to clare , JMC wrote:
> clare wrote:
>
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 03:44:01 +0000, JMC
> Paint the door?
> Can't see the piictures - so unable to give much more help - but if
> spots are light you COULD darken them with stain to match. If the
> spots are dark you may be able to make the rest of the door match by
> staining the rest of the door darker. Using a "toner" instead of a
> penetrating stain allows you to build colour little at a time
> (something like polyshades). I blended old and new trim, and even
> mahogany and oak to match when I installed the new oak stair railing
> on our main staircase using a "mission oak" polyshade product on the
> oak and "honey oak" on the previously stained mahogany (had a
> fruitwood oil stain applied 30 years ago with no "varnish" over the
> stain)
I finally got the picture to upload see above, I was going to try and see
if I can match the color to a stain what I am worried about is because the
grain in the wood is going the opposite direction. So before staining I
was wondering if there is something else I should do first. Other side of
door is fine this side has two one at top and one at bottom of door.
[IMG]http://www.homeownershub.com/img/5c[/IMG]
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"JMC" wrote in message
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>I finally got the picture to upload see above, I was going to try and see
>if I can match the color to a stain what I am worried about is because the
>grain in the wood is going the opposite direction. So before staining I
>was wondering if there is something else I should do first. Other side of
>door is fine this side has two one at top and one at bottom of door.
>[IMG]http://www.homeownershub.com/img/5c[/IMG]
Short of having someone paint the grain pattern on those areas before
applying the clear finish there isn't much you can do... this as you've
sanded through the veneer. The alternatives would be to paint the entire
side of the door with an opaque paint or stain, or, replace the door slab.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > You have to know what to look for. I don't know of anyone that stocks
> > door skins anymore. The last time I resurfaced a door, I actually did
> > find what I wanted at HD.
> >
> > http://www.homedepot.com/p/Unbranded-Utility-Panel-Common-1-8-In-x-4-Ft
> > -x-8-Ft-Actual-0-106-in-x-48-in-x-96-in-833096/100535208
>
> "This item is not available in any stores within 100 miles of 33304."
>
> (you also apparently have to know the SKU to see it on the
> website, since it doesn't show up either by drilling down
> in "plywood", or by searching on "utility panel").
>
> John
Look in the phone book under "plywood" or "hardwood" or google "Fort
Lauderdale Plywood". You'll find a variety of sources including at
least one that will veneer a customer-supplied door to order.
"John McCoy" wrote in message
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>At one time Home Depot stocked door skins, but now they
>seem to be a special order thing.
I didn't mention that as they don't seem to be available anymore. At least
they aren't from any of the vendors in my area and thus I figured the
problem exists elsewhere. I checked the 2 big box stores as well as 3 other
builder suppliers that cater primarily to the tradesmen... That said, I'm
not sure if the lack of availability is a clerk problem or reality as in
every case they said they'd never heard of such a thing!
John
[email protected] writes:
>On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:44:01 +0000, JMC
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>replying to clare , JMC wrote:
>>> clare wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 03:44:01 +0000, JMC
>>> Paint the door?
>>> Can't see the piictures - so unable to give much more help - but if
>>> spots are light you COULD darken them with stain to match. If the
>>> spots are dark you may be able to make the rest of the door match by
>>> staining the rest of the door darker. Using a "toner" instead of a
>>> penetrating stain allows you to build colour little at a time
>>> (something like polyshades). I blended old and new trim, and even
>>> mahogany and oak to match when I installed the new oak stair railing
>>> on our main staircase using a "mission oak" polyshade product on the
>>> oak and "honey oak" on the previously stained mahogany (had a
>>> fruitwood oil stain applied 30 years ago with no "varnish" over the
>>> stain)
>>
>>
>>
>>I finally got the picture to upload see above, I was going to try and see
>>if I can match the color to a stain what I am worried about is because the
>>grain in the wood is going the opposite direction. So before staining I
>>was wondering if there is something else I should do first. Other side of
>>door is fine this side has two one at top and one at bottom of door.
>>[IMG]http://www.homeownershub.com/img/5c[/IMG]
>You are screwed. You sanded through the very thin top layer of the
>plywood. Now it is fill, sand and paint, or replace the door.
http://www.birchwoodbest.com/doorskins.php
http://www.wiusa.com/curvwood/doorsaver.htm
http://www.consmos.com/door_skin_hdf_molded.html
http://www.woodworkingnetwork.com/wood-machinery-supplies/gluing-equipment-laminating-veneering/PEEL--STICK-DOOR-SKINS-169961886.html
JMC <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I finally got the picture to upload see above, I was going to try and
> see if I can match the color to a stain what I am worried about is
> because the grain in the wood is going the opposite direction. So
> before staining I was wondering if there is something else I should do
> first. Other side of door is fine this side has two one at top and
> one at bottom of door. [IMG]http://www.homeownershub.com/img/5c[/IMG]
As John G said, you have sanded thru the top layer of veneer,
and exposed the inner layer (which is a softer, lighter colored
wood with the grain going at right angles).
Your choices are pretty much:
1) replace the entire door.
2) buy a new doorskin and glue it over the damaged one.
3) stain the damaged area the same color as the door,
and paint in grain lines to look like the adjacent
surface.
4) stain the damaged area and the surrounding area a
darker color (the eye picks out light areas as "different"
more easily than dark areas).
5) paint the door.
At one time Home Depot stocked door skins, but now they
seem to be a special order thing.
John
[email protected] (Scott Lurndal) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> http://www.woodworkingnetwork.com/wood-machinery-supplies/gluing-
> equipment-laminating-veneering/PEEL--STICK-DOOR-SKINS-169961886.html
At $80/ea for that one, I think I'd rather replace the door...
John
replying to John McCoy , JMC wrote:
> igopogo wrote:
>
> [email protected] (Scott Lurndal) wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
> At $80/ea for that one, I think I'd rather replace the door...
> John
Thanks for all your help, I think I am going to try and match color and
see how it looks, if I'm not happy I guess it is off to buy a door.
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"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> "John McCoy" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>At one time Home Depot stocked door skins, but now they
>>seem to be a special order thing.
>
> I didn't mention that as they don't seem to be available anymore.
Yeah, which is a shame. Cheap 1/8th luaun plywood is kind
of a handy thing for templates and the like.
John
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> You have to know what to look for. I don't know of anyone that stocks
> door skins anymore. The last time I resurfaced a door, I actually did
> find what I wanted at HD.
>
> http://www.homedepot.com/p/Unbranded-Utility-Panel-Common-1-8-In-x-4-Ft
> -x-8-Ft-Actual-0-106-in-x-48-in-x-96-in-833096/100535208
"This item is not available in any stores within 100 miles of 33304."
(you also apparently have to know the SKU to see it on the
website, since it doesn't show up either by drilling down
in "plywood", or by searching on "utility panel").
John
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 02:45:01 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 10:03:49 PM UTC-5, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>
>> HD doesn't work in my area... "This item is not available in any stores
>> within 100 miles of [my zip code]"
>>
>> >It's just 1/8" plywood.
>>
>> I can get luan plywood locally from sources other than HD and Lowes but it's
>> crap... typically has large areas of filler and ugly dark streaks that show
>> up under clear finishes. Fine for cabinet backs and other utility use but
>> not so good for "in your face" use!
>
>I feel special. My local HD has something like 50 sheets at one store. With something like 12 stores here in San Antonio, still, only one carries that stuff. It is a three layer ply, on layer of Luan, a middle layer of who knows what, and a finish side of some kind of pretty clear white wood. It isn't birch, and it isn't a hardwood veneer, but something snow white and clear. Paints nicely, but like a most softwoods it probably doesn't stain well.
>
>Robert
Clear luan stains pretty good.
On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 9:12:26 AM UTC-5, John McCoy wrote:
=20
> >>At one time Home Depot stocked door skins, but now they
> >>seem to be a special order thing.
> >=20
> > I didn't mention that as they don't seem to be available anymore.
>=20
> Yeah, which is a shame. Cheap 1/8th luaun plywood is kind
> of a handy thing for templates and the like.
You have to know what to look for. I don't know of anyone that stocks door=
skins anymore. The last time I resurfaced a door, I actually did find wha=
t I wanted at HD.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Unbranded-Utility-Panel-Common-1-8-In-x-4-Ft-x-8=
-Ft-Actual-0-106-in-x-48-in-x-96-in-833096/100535208
It's just 1/8" plywood.
Glued it to the door, and trimmed it with a flush cut/pattern cutting bit i=
n the router. They had plenty of them at one location in town, and none at=
the others, so if that might be the case, call before you go or look it up=
online. IME, HD has about a 95% accuracy rate of their inventory when you=
check a store online, but the best part is that you don't have to look for=
the product as the online inventory will tell you which isle and bin the p=
roduct is in, so no walking around the store.
Robert
On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 10:03:49 PM UTC-5, John Grossbohlin wrote=
:
> HD doesn't work in my area... "This item is not available in any stores=
=20
> within 100 miles of [my zip code]"
>=20
> >It's just 1/8" plywood.
>=20
> I can get luan plywood locally from sources other than HD and Lowes but i=
t's=20
> crap... typically has large areas of filler and ugly dark streaks that sh=
ow=20
> up under clear finishes. Fine for cabinet backs and other utility use but=
=20
> not so good for "in your face" use!
I feel special. My local HD has something like 50 sheets at one store. Wi=
th something like 12 stores here in San Antonio, still, only one carries th=
at stuff. It is a three layer ply, on layer of Luan, a middle layer of who=
knows what, and a finish side of some kind of pretty clear white wood. It=
isn't birch, and it isn't a hardwood veneer, but something snow white and =
clear. Paints nicely, but like a most softwoods it probably doesn't stain =
well.
Robert
On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:44:01 +0000, JMC
<[email protected]> wrote:
>replying to clare , JMC wrote:
>> clare wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 03:44:01 +0000, JMC
>> Paint the door?
>> Can't see the piictures - so unable to give much more help - but if
>> spots are light you COULD darken them with stain to match. If the
>> spots are dark you may be able to make the rest of the door match by
>> staining the rest of the door darker. Using a "toner" instead of a
>> penetrating stain allows you to build colour little at a time
>> (something like polyshades). I blended old and new trim, and even
>> mahogany and oak to match when I installed the new oak stair railing
>> on our main staircase using a "mission oak" polyshade product on the
>> oak and "honey oak" on the previously stained mahogany (had a
>> fruitwood oil stain applied 30 years ago with no "varnish" over the
>> stain)
>
>
>
>I finally got the picture to upload see above, I was going to try and see
>if I can match the color to a stain what I am worried about is because the
>grain in the wood is going the opposite direction. So before staining I
>was wondering if there is something else I should do first. Other side of
>door is fine this side has two one at top and one at bottom of door.
>[IMG]http://www.homeownershub.com/img/5c[/IMG]
You are screwed. You sanded through the very thin top layer of the
plywood. Now it is fill, sand and paint, or replace the door.
wrote in message
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On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 9:12:26 AM UTC-5, John McCoy wrote:
> >>At one time Home Depot stocked door skins, but now they
> >>seem to be a special order thing.
> >
> > I didn't mention that as they don't seem to be available anymore.
>
> Yeah, which is a shame. Cheap 1/8th luaun plywood is kind
> of a handy thing for templates and the like.
>You have to know what to look for. I don't know of anyone that stocks door
>skins anymore. The last time I resurfaced a door, I actually did find what
>I wanted at >HD.
>http://www.homedepot.com/p/Unbranded-Utility-Panel-Common-1-8-In-x-4-Ft-x-8-Ft-Actual-0-106-in-x-48-in-x-96-in-833096/100535208
HD doesn't work in my area... "This item is not available in any stores
within 100 miles of [my zip code]"
>It's just 1/8" plywood.
I can get luan plywood locally from sources other than HD and Lowes but it's
crap... typically has large areas of filler and ugly dark streaks that show
up under clear finishes. Fine for cabinet backs and other utility use but
not so good for "in your face" use!
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 14:10:19 +0000 (UTC), John McCoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> "John McCoy" wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>At one time Home Depot stocked door skins, but now they
>>>seem to be a special order thing.
>>
>> I didn't mention that as they don't seem to be available anymore.
>
>Yeah, which is a shame. Cheap 1/8th luaun plywood is kind
>of a handy thing for templates and the like.
>
>John
Brookside Veneers in New Jersey still makes them I'm sure there are
other suppliers. Try a REAL lumber yard or trim shop, if any have
survived the invasion of the BORG.