Sk

Swingman

05/01/2016 4:21 PM

Backyard Decked, Platform

Twas high time for some recreational woodworking.

Decided to take a much needed break from furniture and cabinet making
during the holidays, and wanted it cheap as possible, so what did I do
(besides cook, that is)?

My backyard has been neglected, the grass has died due to the excess
shade, in short a muddy mess. Ain't done with it yet, but it's finally
starting to take shape and justify the resultant aches and pains.

You'd think an old man would find something less taxing on his time off:

https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/BackyardDeckedPlatform2015?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ3Z9L2S7d_CJg

Next step is to take up all the flagstone, put down a membrane, put in
crushed/decomposed granite for the surrounding area, then reinstall the
flagstone and pavers .... and buy a new yard swing.

DISCLAIMER: This was built with the possibility of it being taken apart
and hauled up to our lake house when I finally decide to learn how to
relax. So, before the kibbitzers start getting sassy, this is most
definitely NOT how YOU should make a _permanent_ , ground level,
platform unless you are well aware of both the climate and soil conditions.

All in all, nice eating your own dog food on occasion. I did enjoy using
Kregg's Deck Jig for hidden fasteners on the ChoiceDek, although it
would be more comfortable for us elderly to use it at waist height ...
IOW, was damned glad to see that last board go on. Ouch!

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Sk

Swingman

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

19/02/2016 9:53 AM

On 2/19/2016 12:53 AM, OFWW wrote:

> Looks VERY nice, well done.

Thanks.

> I am surprised at how easy it is to view the info, the sharpness of
> the photo's all of them, and the night shot when zoomed in was very
> clear and sharp. Could even see the light coming through the back of
> the swing set.

Thanks for the feedback. Google has always been pretty good at making
photos look good at monitor resolution despite their practice of
reducing the original photo resolution for storage purposes.

Also, pretty hard to fault cell phone cameras these days, particularly
the iPhone 6's camera. Paid more, in 1963 dollars, for my first SLR and
now my phone takes better and more cost effective photos.

> May you have many years of enjoyment and relaxation there.

Certainly not fine woodworking, but the satisfaction of eating your own
dogfood always runs just as deep. ;)

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in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

19/02/2016 5:41 PM

On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 15:27:45 -0500, "Lee Michaels"
<leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net> wrote:

>
>
>"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>> Makes you wonder ... (except to appreciate why my youngest is not
>> impressed with the current pool of potential husband material).
>>
>Well, the apple does not fall far from the tree. She is going to compare
>all potential suitors with dear old dad! It is difficult to find your way
>through a world with ever declining standards.
>
>Hopefully she will eventually finds somebody who measures up.
>
>
My youngest started out driving a stick shift car and I taught her to
change her own tires - and even how to change her own oil (which she
dir excatly ONCE!!!
She found most of her male friends were intimidated by her. She ended
up finding a heavy duty truck mechanic she didn't intimidate and
they've been together for a few years now.

c

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

19/02/2016 5:47 PM

On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 11:40:31 -0900, Kevin Miller <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 02/19/2016 07:08 AM, Swingman wrote:
>
>> Linda brought her out to the shop to meet me, whereupon she proceeded to
>> rain scorn upon her husband's lack of any ability to do anything that
>> required self reliance, literally doing a damned good job of calling him
>> a doofus.
>
>It's funny how society demands that women be deemed equal to men but
>it's still a man's job to take out the garbage and fix things. LOL.
>
>I always wonder about folk that run down their spouses. Makes you
>wonder why they married them if they such ditzes. My wife has her
>strengths and weaknesses just like all of us but in public I have
>nothing praise for her. Well, pretty much in private too. We'll be
>hitting 29 years this May so it must be a working strategy!
>
>I'd have probably have asked this highly educated and intelligent women
>if she's ever made anything. Why is it just the husband that is
>incompetent? I've seen plenty of women that are quite skilled with
>tools. They're outnumbered by guys, no doubt, but if she can't do it
>why is it a demerit for her husband to not be able? I expect she'd
>probably think I'm a jerk for saying so. LOL.
>
>...Kevin
My oldest sister (2 years my junior) married a charmer who talked a
good talk, but was virtually useless in the real world - he litterally
didn't know one end of a screwdriver from the other. Having grown up
with a father who was a real handyman - a carpenter and electrician
who could also lay bricks - she had caught on to what tools were used
for what, and how - so she had a decent set of tools that enabled her
to look after things like shaky chairs, dripping taps, plugged drains,
loose cupboard hinges, etc without having to call one of her 5
brothers or her Dad . When she moved across the country following her
hubby's dreams calling her brothers or her Dad wasn't an option.

nn

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

27/01/2016 11:08 AM

On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 at 9:15:55 AM UTC-6, Swingman wrote:
> On 1/27/2016 6:47 AM, Markem wrote:
> > So is that a Festool ball in the middle of the deck?
>
> ShihPoo ball (Shiatsu/Poodle) ball ... heavy on the poo.
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/BackyardDeckedPlatform2015?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ3Z9L2S7d_CJg#6235830419134318770
>

Finally we see the job supervisor! Good to see she is on the job!

Looks great, Karl. Like the planters, they add a nice "decorative" touch to the project.

Robert

Sc

Sonny

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

26/01/2016 6:12 PM

On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 3:07:55 PM UTC-6, OFWW wrote:

> That's looking might good all around now. I love the porch.
>
> You could put chairs on the deck and your group on the porch and have
> an afternoon/ evening gig like in Europe. ala
> https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=jason+mraz+backyard+concert&&view=detail&mid=1E8ECD1AE6D4926041B71E8ECD1AE6D4926041B7&FORM=VRDGAR
>
> Or Weddings, or, or. :)

SuperBowl party... Mardi Gras party... Valentines party.... Party party....

Yeahee!!

Sonny

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OFWW

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

18/02/2016 10:53 PM

On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 11:56:34 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:

>Dead around here the last couple of days ...
>
>Not much woodworking to share yet, do have a couple of cabinet jobs in
>progress.
>
>Enjoyed having the time to install outdoor electrical (NOT), and low
>voltage lighting the past few days (and also wanted to test Google
>Photo's "Collections"):
>
>https://goo.gl/photos/fwnyXTCcPqe7xg7D7
>
>(NOTE: becaise this is Google Photos, and not PicasWeb photos, so you
>apparently have to chose the "i" for INFO to get captions/descriptions
>for an individual photo)
>
>Found low voltage lighting installation, except for waiting for dark, to
>be instant gratification.
>
>Picked up a 300w, multi tap transformer, some 14awg low voltage cable,
>and LED lights from Lowe's, and in just a few hours had cable laid and
>lights connected.
>
>Had enough fun to get a bit carried away in the process, but still
>subtracting here and there and moving around, so will wait to cover up
>the cable on the back two sides:
>
>https://goo.gl/photos/fwnyXTCcPqe7xg7D7
>
>Linda wants to experiment with some colored lens gels ... will probably
>be glad I'm colorblind.
>
>In any event, the weather has been perfect for coffee and breakfast in
>the morning on the contraption, and a swing and drink in the evening,
>AND, best of all, no more mud and bare dirt, and no interruptions.
>
>Although I enjoy our front porch and balcony, it is nice to have a bit
>of privacy and relief from the "what would you do about this?" when
>folks see the only local neighbor who actually owns a hammer sitting out
>in full view of a evening.

Looks VERY nice, well done.

I am surprised at how easy it is to view the info, the sharpness of
the photo's all of them, and the night shot when zoomed in was very
clear and sharp. Could even see the light coming through the back of
the swing set.

May you have many years of enjoyment and relaxation there.

Sc

Sonny

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

20/02/2016 7:25 AM

On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 11:56:39 AM UTC-6, Swingman wrote:
> Dead around here the last couple of days ...
>
> Not much woodworking to share yet, do have a couple of cabinet jobs in
> progress.
>
> Enjoyed having the time to install outdoor electrical (NOT), and low
> voltage lighting the past few days (and also wanted to test Google
> Photo's "Collections"):
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/fwnyXTCcPqe7xg7D7
>

I like it. Looks nice and cozy, especially with those low night lights. *I can hear some soft music in the background, also.

Yep, our recent warm weather makes for some nice mornings and evenings, relaxing outdoors.

Sonny

Sk

Swingman

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

18/02/2016 1:55 PM

On 2/18/2016 12:28 PM, Leon wrote:
>
> Was there suppose to be a second link? Both point to the same.

Shop dummy was on duty this AM ...

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"Lee Michaels"

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

19/02/2016 9:41 AM



"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote .
>
> Although I enjoy our front porch and balcony, it is nice to have a bit of
> privacy and relief from the "what would you do about this?" when folks see
> the only local neighbor who actually owns a hammer sitting out in full
> view of a evening.
>
I know exactly what you are talking about. Years ago, I worked for awhile
at a small insurance agency. When I moved into the office, I built a couple
cabinets and brought a toolbox with some basic tools in it. I helped
assemble some furniture, etc. I suddenly became Mr. fixit for the entire
office complex. A guy who builds things, assembles things, fixes things and
actually owns TOOLS!!

You would have thought I was an old dinosaur who had been resurrected or
something. Then I had to track down all the tools that were "borrowed".
Because nobody wanted to return them. I quickly installed a locking tool
cabinet. I started a formal tool checkout procedure. And started charging
"professional" rates for anybody outside of my own office. Apparently I was
some kind of throwback, an anachronism. When I grew up, everybody had tools
and fixed or built things. Not so much any more.

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

19/02/2016 3:19 PM



"Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote
>
> Anyway she came to borrow my electric hedge trimmer that I had offered to
> lend her. We walked into the store room and she spied my long handle
> bypass loppers. She reached out and caressed them. Ohhhh these work so
> well, I just bought a pair the other day...
>
> Too early to show her my Festool tools? LOL
>
Leon has wonderful tools and a great portfolio of lovely furniture. Now we
find out he also has local tool babes and groupies. No woman I ever met
ever fondled any of my shop tools. Makes me wonder if I can talk my honey
into relocating to Texas.

Not that it would do any good. My wife is deadly with loppers. She attacks
the shrubbery around here like it is an alien invasion. It is downright
scary. I am fairly certain that she would run off any tool babes.

Oh well. ;-(


LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

19/02/2016 3:27 PM



"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> Makes you wonder ... (except to appreciate why my youngest is not
> impressed with the current pool of potential husband material).
>
Well, the apple does not fall far from the tree. She is going to compare
all potential suitors with dear old dad! It is difficult to find your way
through a world with ever declining standards.

Hopefully she will eventually finds somebody who measures up.


Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

19/02/2016 9:38 PM

Kevin Miller <[email protected]> wrote in news:K7adnZ4oHvoX4FrLnZ2dnUU7-
[email protected]:

>
> It's funny how society demands that women be deemed equal to men but
> it's still a man's job to take out the garbage and fix things. LOL.

There's good reason for that, with the fixing things:

Charlie was installing a new door and found that one of the hinges was
missing.

He asked his wife Mary if she would go to the hardware store and pick up
a hinge. Mary agreed to go. While she was waiting for the manager to
finish serving a customer, her eye caught a beautiful bathroom faucet.

When the manager was finished, Mary asked him, “How much is that faucet?”

The manager replied, “That’s a gold plated faucet and the price is
$500.00.”

Mary exclaimed, “My goodness, that is a very expensive faucet. It’s
certainly out of my price bracket.”

She then proceeded to describe the hinge that Charlie had sent her to
buy. The manager said that he had them in stock and went into the
storeroom to get one.

From the storeroom the manager yelled.

“Ma’am, do you wanna screw for the hinge?”

Mary paused for a moment and then shouted back, “No, but I will for the
faucet.”

> I always wonder about folk that run down their spouses. Makes you
> wonder why they married them if they such ditzes. My wife has her
> strengths and weaknesses just like all of us but in public I have
> nothing praise for her. Well, pretty much in private too. We'll be
> hitting 29 years this May so it must be a working strategy!
>
> I'd have probably have asked this highly educated and intelligent women
> if she's ever made anything. Why is it just the husband that is
> incompetent? I've seen plenty of women that are quite skilled with
> tools. They're outnumbered by guys, no doubt, but if she can't do it
> why is it a demerit for her husband to not be able? I expect she'd
> probably think I'm a jerk for saying so. LOL.
>
> ...Kevin

Yeah... that kind of thing just doesn't seem to be on women's minds.
After all, I can polish their brass and clean their clock and yet there's
few takers... That's ok, though... I wouldn't want to marry someone who
was only interested in my polishing and cleaning skills.

Puckdropper

Sc

Sonny

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

08/01/2016 4:22 AM

On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 4:21:12 PM UTC-6, Swingman wrote:
> Twas high time for some recreational woodworking.

Probably at least 90% of my woodworking is recreational. With this in min=
d....

> So, before the kibbitzers start getting sassy,=20

Pfft! I have an immediate objection to....

> .... and buy a new yard swing.

It's a sin not to build your own. Building one yourself would fit my defin=
ition of recreation. You better go to confession. But I'm thinking porch =
type swing, not deck/yard swing.

I've been away from home most of 2 months.... helping take care of Mom 24/7=
. Lately, when the little time permits (at Mom's, few/hand tools), I've be=
en working on a porch swing for the camp, so your swing comment caught my e=
ye. Until now, with few exceptions, I haven't had internet access to post=
or comment, but I have kept up reading posts via the phone.=20

Not to highjack your thread, but it's nice to post/participate, again, on s=
omething I can (somewhat) relate to. Your deck looks inviting. Good job=
. I could benefit from a few days of the kind of R&R it offers.... with s=
ome eggnog and boudin, as well. Sooo, it should be finished for Mardi Gras=
festivities (Feb 9th), right?

Sonny

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OFWW

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

26/01/2016 1:08 PM

On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 11:12:02 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:

>Moved the swing back about 3', now much less overpowering.
>
>For now, the only left to do with the swing is to put a drink platform
>between the A-frame uprights that matches the bench wood.
>
>Also got the decomposed granite laid down. No más barro ...
>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/BackyardDeckedPlatform2015?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ3Z9L2S7d_CJg#6244138383283993458
>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/BackyardDeckedPlatform2015?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ3Z9L2S7d_CJg#6244138421724346594

That's looking might good all around now. I love the porch.

You could put chairs on the deck and your group on the porch and have
an afternoon/ evening gig like in Europe. ala
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=jason+mraz+backyard+concert&&view=detail&mid=1E8ECD1AE6D4926041B71E8ECD1AE6D4926041B7&FORM=VRDGAR

Or Weddings, or, or. :)

Sk

Swingman

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

19/02/2016 9:43 AM

On 2/18/2016 9:05 PM, Martin Eastburn wrote:
> I'll take pictures and consider putting them up as well. Should be
> pretty.

Thanks. Sounds like an interesting project especially with the wood
you're using.

Do post links to photos if you can.

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"G. Ross"

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

21/02/2016 6:35 AM

Martin Eastburn wrote:
> Nice. And well done.
>
> I'm in the process of doing a deck in front of our Wood Yard Barn.
> We use it for storage and for yard tools and such. My shop is in
> another building.
>
> The design I'm using 4x4's in the outside ring and across the center
> in one direction only. The squares are now 5'x5' with 2x6 slats.
>
> Two of them side by side. Front side and back side tied with 2x6 cut
> down to be 2x4 or whatever the dimension I need since the 2x6 is on top
> of the 4x4 it makes 2x6 close. To be measured once built.
>
> All of the wood is custom cut from logs I had on the property. Mostly
> Red Oak and some White Oak. Heavy stuff. I have 12 and 16 foot long
> 4x4's and they are a handful. Glad I have a tractor with forklifts.
>
> The base material that they will sit upon is 6" of crushed granite.
> It is about 1/4" a 'grain' so water will flow down and through it easily.
>
> I'll take pictures and consider putting them up as well. Should be
> pretty. I think one of mine might have been curly oak. I home to have
> that grain exposed on something.
>
> Planning on a 4 x 12' arched bridge. That design is going to be
> interesting. I'm getting some bandsaw blades for that project!
>
> Martin
>
>
> On 2/18/2016 11:56 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> Dead around here the last couple of days ...
>>
>> Not much woodworking to share yet, do have a couple of cabinet jobs in
>> progress.
>>
>> Enjoyed having the time to install outdoor electrical (NOT), and low
>> voltage lighting the past few days (and also wanted to test Google
>> Photo's "Collections"):
>>
>> https://goo.gl/photos/fwnyXTCcPqe7xg7D7
>>
>> (NOTE: becaise this is Google Photos, and not PicasWeb photos, so you
>> apparently have to chose the "i" for INFO to get captions/descriptions
>> for an individual photo)
>>
>> Found low voltage lighting installation, except for waiting for dark, to
>> be instant gratification.
>>
>> Picked up a 300w, multi tap transformer, some 14awg low voltage cable,
>> and LED lights from Lowe's, and in just a few hours had cable laid and
>> lights connected.
>>
>> Had enough fun to get a bit carried away in the process, but still
>> subtracting here and there and moving around, so will wait to cover up
>> the cable on the back two sides:
>>
>> https://goo.gl/photos/fwnyXTCcPqe7xg7D7
>>
>> Linda wants to experiment with some colored lens gels ... will probably
>> be glad I'm colorblind.
>>
>> In any event, the weather has been perfect for coffee and breakfast in
>> the morning on the contraption, and a swing and drink in the evening,
>> AND, best of all, no more mud and bare dirt, and no interruptions.
>>
>> Although I enjoy our front porch and balcony, it is nice to have a bit
>> of privacy and relief from the "what would you do about this?" when
>> folks see the only local neighbor who actually owns a hammer sitting out
>> in full view of a evening.
>>
>
I did an arched bridge, and tori several years ago. They are still
holding up well. Will put pictures on ABPW.

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Martin Eastburn

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

20/02/2016 8:58 PM

Got the 4x4's screwed together. I used the long strong hex head screws
that are used to tie log homes together. 6 used per square - due to
the crossbar that supports the top (tread boards).

Using what I have, it took 3 12' 4x4's to make 4 sides. Lots of fire
wood. Should have been 2. Yield...

The log screws drove easily through the oak and held tightly.
(good feeling) I bought them at Home Depot in the deck screw section.
I'll put those in the pictures as well.

Pending rain, the work might stop for a while.

I build it on the veranda of the addition. Drip rain and sun doesn't
gets there. And electric power is plenty. My shop isn't set up for
this size of wood. I wonder if I am!

Cut a 2x6 which is non-standard sizing due to the on-site cut. Was
cut and deck screws refused to drive through and into the 4x4 under
them. Drill holes had to be used, as well as the 4" deck screws were
re-boxed and 3" were the winner. As it turns out, 3" was the size I was
to use. That is why I had a large box of them. Even still, drilling
holes just adds to the job. I have to get another drill for
the drilling. My 3/8 HP hammer drill is driving screws.

The square (first one) is heavy. I'll use the tractor with forks
and hope I can stabilize it on.

I'm glad my cutoff saw, not a slider, cuts the 2/6 and 4x4's thus
far. Since the 12' 4x4 are over my strength (at this time) I'm using
my chainsaw to cut off sections that I trim down both ends... Half
length are easy enough to tote. The 12' 2x6 is easy enough to tote.

As I work down the stack of lumber - I hope the size stays close enough.
Three 4x4x12' will be wood turning or firewood. Wood decay has taken
a corner off all of them. Lost a lot of wood to that.

Pictures start taking tomorrow. I'll have to determine what site to
post them on. And how many.

Martin

Sk

Swingman

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

08/01/2016 9:34 AM

On 1/8/2016 6:22 AM, Sonny wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 4:21:12 PM UTC-6, Swingman wrote:
>> Twas high time for some recreational woodworking.
>
> Probably at least 90% of my woodworking is recreational. With this in mind....
>
>> So, before the kibbitzers start getting sassy,
>
> Pfft! I have an immediate objection to....
>
>> .... and buy a new yard swing.
>
> It's a sin not to build your own. Building one yourself would fit my definition of recreation. You better go to confession. But I'm thinking porch type swing, not deck/yard swing.
>
> I've been away from home most of 2 months.... helping take care of Mom 24/7. Lately, when the little time permits (at Mom's, few/hand tools), I've been working on a porch swing for the camp, so your swing comment caught my eye. Until now, with few exceptions, I haven't had internet access to post or comment, but I have kept up reading posts via the phone.

I've built a few down through the years, but I don't want a wooden swing
for both size and aesthetics. I was looking for a smaller, metal yet
three person yard swing with a canopy like the one we have at the lake
house in AR:

https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopJustStuff?noredirect=1#5762440325868380146

Problem is that one is almost ten years old, is no longer available
anywhere, and consumer goods have cheapened so much in the last ten
years that the new ones, even the expensive ones, are nothing but cheap
Chinese crap.

> Not to highjack your thread, but it's nice to post/participate, again, on something I can (somewhat) relate to. Your deck looks inviting. Good job. I could benefit from a few days of the kind of R&R it offers.... with some eggnog and boudin, as well. Sooo, it should be finished for Mardi Gras festivities (Feb 9th), right?

Mais cher, as always, you are most welcome here anytime. You should
still have my email and phone contact if you're ever coming through.
Always have a place to stay in Houston.

You just missed a helluva get together with Leon and Nailshooter and the
ladies, with gumbo, dirty rice, and good whisky; plus Robert/Nailshooter
and Kathy brought some of the best damn homemade breakfast sausage
we've ever eaten.

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"G. Ross"

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

05/01/2016 7:20 PM

Swingman wrote:
> Twas high time for some recreational woodworking.
>
> Decided to take a much needed break from furniture and cabinet making
> during the holidays, and wanted it cheap as possible, so what did I do
> (besides cook, that is)?
>
> My backyard has been neglected, the grass has died due to the excess
> shade, in short a muddy mess. Ain't done with it yet, but it's finally
> starting to take shape and justify the resultant aches and pains.
>
> You'd think an old man would find something less taxing on his time off:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/BackyardDeckedPlatform2015?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ3Z9L2S7d_CJg
>
> Next step is to take up all the flagstone, put down a membrane, put in
> crushed/decomposed granite for the surrounding area, then reinstall the
> flagstone and pavers .... and buy a new yard swing.
>
> DISCLAIMER: This was built with the possibility of it being taken apart
> and hauled up to our lake house when I finally decide to learn how to
> relax. So, before the kibbitzers start getting sassy, this is most
> definitely NOT how YOU should make a _permanent_ , ground level,
> platform unless you are well aware of both the climate and soil conditions.
>
> All in all, nice eating your own dog food on occasion. I did enjoy using
> Kregg's Deck Jig for hidden fasteners on the ChoiceDek, although it
> would be more comfortable for us elderly to use it at waist height ...
> IOW, was damned glad to see that last board go on. Ouch!
>
Looks great! I liked the visuals also.

--
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Advancement of Eccentricity





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Swingman

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

26/01/2016 11:55 AM

On 1/26/2016 11:35 AM, G. Ross wrote:

> Looks Good!
>
> I sunk my step stones so that only 1/2 inch is exposed. Less of a
> tripping hazard at my age.

Thanks!

You're right. AAMOF, I did sink the pavers, between the bottom of the
step and platform, for the very reason you suggest.

Since I put down a lot more decomposed granite than normal (almost 4"),
I left the stepping stones up to encourage walking on them, as they will
settle a bit with traffic ... especially with lard ass walking on them. ;)

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in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

19/02/2016 11:40 AM

On 02/19/2016 07:08 AM, Swingman wrote:

> Linda brought her out to the shop to meet me, whereupon she proceeded to
> rain scorn upon her husband's lack of any ability to do anything that
> required self reliance, literally doing a damned good job of calling him
> a doofus.

It's funny how society demands that women be deemed equal to men but
it's still a man's job to take out the garbage and fix things. LOL.

I always wonder about folk that run down their spouses. Makes you
wonder why they married them if they such ditzes. My wife has her
strengths and weaknesses just like all of us but in public I have
nothing praise for her. Well, pretty much in private too. We'll be
hitting 29 years this May so it must be a working strategy!

I'd have probably have asked this highly educated and intelligent women
if she's ever made anything. Why is it just the husband that is
incompetent? I've seen plenty of women that are quite skilled with
tools. They're outnumbered by guys, no doubt, but if she can't do it
why is it a demerit for her husband to not be able? I expect she'd
probably think I'm a jerk for saying so. LOL.

...Kevin
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Martin Eastburn

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

18/02/2016 9:05 PM

Nice. And well done.

I'm in the process of doing a deck in front of our Wood Yard Barn.
We use it for storage and for yard tools and such. My shop is in
another building.

The design I'm using 4x4's in the outside ring and across the center
in one direction only. The squares are now 5'x5' with 2x6 slats.

Two of them side by side. Front side and back side tied with 2x6 cut
down to be 2x4 or whatever the dimension I need since the 2x6 is on top
of the 4x4 it makes 2x6 close. To be measured once built.

All of the wood is custom cut from logs I had on the property. Mostly
Red Oak and some White Oak. Heavy stuff. I have 12 and 16 foot long
4x4's and they are a handful. Glad I have a tractor with forklifts.

The base material that they will sit upon is 6" of crushed granite.
It is about 1/4" a 'grain' so water will flow down and through it easily.

I'll take pictures and consider putting them up as well. Should be
pretty. I think one of mine might have been curly oak. I home to have
that grain exposed on something.

Planning on a 4 x 12' arched bridge. That design is going to be
interesting. I'm getting some bandsaw blades for that project!

Martin


On 2/18/2016 11:56 AM, Swingman wrote:
> Dead around here the last couple of days ...
>
> Not much woodworking to share yet, do have a couple of cabinet jobs in
> progress.
>
> Enjoyed having the time to install outdoor electrical (NOT), and low
> voltage lighting the past few days (and also wanted to test Google
> Photo's "Collections"):
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/fwnyXTCcPqe7xg7D7
>
> (NOTE: becaise this is Google Photos, and not PicasWeb photos, so you
> apparently have to chose the "i" for INFO to get captions/descriptions
> for an individual photo)
>
> Found low voltage lighting installation, except for waiting for dark, to
> be instant gratification.
>
> Picked up a 300w, multi tap transformer, some 14awg low voltage cable,
> and LED lights from Lowe's, and in just a few hours had cable laid and
> lights connected.
>
> Had enough fun to get a bit carried away in the process, but still
> subtracting here and there and moving around, so will wait to cover up
> the cable on the back two sides:
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/fwnyXTCcPqe7xg7D7
>
> Linda wants to experiment with some colored lens gels ... will probably
> be glad I'm colorblind.
>
> In any event, the weather has been perfect for coffee and breakfast in
> the morning on the contraption, and a swing and drink in the evening,
> AND, best of all, no more mud and bare dirt, and no interruptions.
>
> Although I enjoy our front porch and balcony, it is nice to have a bit
> of privacy and relief from the "what would you do about this?" when
> folks see the only local neighbor who actually owns a hammer sitting out
> in full view of a evening.
>

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

09/01/2016 5:28 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> On 1/8/2016 6:22 AM, Sonny wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 4:21:12 PM UTC-6, Swingman wrote:
> >> Twas high time for some recreational woodworking.
> >
> > Probably at least 90% of my woodworking is recreational. With this in mind....
> >
> >> So, before the kibbitzers start getting sassy,
> >
> > Pfft! I have an immediate objection to....
> >
> >> .... and buy a new yard swing.
> >
> > It's a sin not to build your own. Building one yourself would fit my definition of recreation. You better go to confession. But I'm thinking porch type swing, not deck/yard swing.
> >
> > I've been away from home most of 2 months.... helping take care of Mom 24/7. Lately, when the little time permits (at Mom's, few/hand tools), I've been working on a porch swing for the camp, so your swing comment caught my eye. Until now, with few exceptions, I haven't had internet access to post or comment, but I have kept up reading posts via the phone.
>
> I've built a few down through the years, but I don't want a wooden swing
> for both size and aesthetics. I was looking for a smaller, metal yet
> three person yard swing with a canopy like the one we have at the lake
> house in AR:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopJustStuff?noredirect=1#5762440325868380146
>
> Problem is that one is almost ten years old, is no longer available
> anywhere, and consumer goods have cheapened so much in the last ten
> years that the new ones, even the expensive ones, are nothing but cheap
> Chinese crap.

Maybe it's time to learn to weld?

> > Not to highjack your thread, but it's nice to post/participate, again, on something I can (somewhat) relate to. Your deck looks inviting. Good job. I could benefit from a few days of the kind of R&R it offers.... with some eggnog and boudin, as well. Sooo, it should be finished for Mardi Gras festivities (Feb 9th), right?
>
> Mais cher, as always, you are most welcome here anytime. You should
> still have my email and phone contact if you're ever coming through.
> Always have a place to stay in Houston.
>
> You just missed a helluva get together with Leon and Nailshooter and the
> ladies, with gumbo, dirty rice, and good whisky; plus Robert/Nailshooter
> and Kathy brought some of the best damn homemade breakfast sausage
> we've ever eaten.

Sk

Swingman

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

26/01/2016 11:12 AM

Moved the swing back about 3', now much less overpowering.

For now, the only left to do with the swing is to put a drink platform
between the A-frame uprights that matches the bench wood.

Also got the decomposed granite laid down. No más barro ...

https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/BackyardDeckedPlatform2015?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ3Z9L2S7d_CJg#6244138383283993458

https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/BackyardDeckedPlatform2015?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ3Z9L2S7d_CJg#6244138421724346594



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Kevin Miller

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

07/01/2016 9:41 AM

On 01/05/2016 01:21 PM, Swingman wrote:
> Twas high time for some recreational woodworking.
snip

Nice. The frame material didn't look like it was PT though - might have
just been the photo or maybe a different flavor of treated wood than we
have up here. Any worries about rot?

...Kevin
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Ll

Leon

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

19/02/2016 11:33 AM

On 2/19/2016 10:08 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 2/19/2016 8:41 AM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>
>> I know exactly what you are talking about. Years ago, I worked for
>> awhile at a small insurance agency. When I moved into the office, I
>> built a couple cabinets and brought a toolbox with some basic tools in
>> it. I helped assemble some furniture, etc. I suddenly became Mr. fixit
>> for the entire office complex. A guy who builds things, assembles
>> things, fixes things and actually owns TOOLS!!
>>
>> You would have thought I was an old dinosaur who had been resurrected or
>> something. Then I had to track down all the tools that were "borrowed".
>> Because nobody wanted to return them. I quickly installed a locking
>> tool cabinet. I started a formal tool checkout procedure. And started
>> charging "professional" rates for anybody outside of my own office.
>> Apparently I was some kind of throwback, an anachronism. When I grew
>> up, everybody had tools and fixed or built things. Not so much any more.
>
> Common thread in this upscale, full of young professionals, enclave I
> live in.
>
> Just yesterday a young lady (Doctor) stopped by to see Linda about
> signing up her kids for music lessons.
>
> As she walked through she was was apparently bowled over by the fact
> that someone's husband could actually be capable of making a house full
> of handmade furniture and cabinetry.
>
> Linda brought her out to the shop to meet me, whereupon she proceeded to
> rain scorn upon her husband's lack of any ability to do anything that
> required self reliance, literally doing a damned good job of calling him
> a doofus.
>
> Makes you wonder ... (except to appreciate why my youngest is not
> impressed with the current pool of potential husband material).
>

;~) These women talking about their husbands and how they don't know
what to do with a screw driver.....
You gotta wonder what our wives say about us!!! You know me, with my
short thumb, you with your color issues. ;~)

Day before yesterday my, two houses down, neighbor came up while I was
in my shop. She is the one from Canada. Oddly she cannot light a
fireplace but will shoot up an extension ladder before you can hide
your eyes while stabilizing the bottom, bottom of the ladder that is.

She laid out the forms and arranged for a concrete patio in her back
yard and is learning to do her own yard work.

Anyway she came to borrow my electric hedge trimmer that I had offered
to lend her. We walked into the store room and she spied my long handle
bypass loppers. She reached out and caressed them. Ohhhh these work so
well, I just bought a pair the other day...

Too early to show her my Festool tools? LOL


ME

Martin Eastburn

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

19/02/2016 9:52 PM

I'll try. Got the first square of 4x4's cut out. Used 3 4x4x12' to
make the 4 frame members. Screw it together this weekend.

There were splits and some were to much to trust. So they are firewood
and good chunks are for the wood shop for turning or making something.

2ea 5' and 2ea 5'subtract width of 2 '4x4s' Which turned out to be 3.25"
on those two. The idea is to have a 5x5 square. (was 7x7 in old plan).

A 10' 4x4 is close to 100 pounds or more. I can lift 5' but 10 is heavy
for something that long. The Oak is aging but came from very large
logs. Glad to use it as lumber than burn it in a pile or compost...

The whole assembly will be washed or sprayed with bleach to kill
nastiness that might be eating on the wood or dissolving it on the fly.
After that, the plan is to paint it with a quality paint that
matches the barn and the house. A dark red as a base material.
I have 4 gallons of bleach for the cleaning. I'll let them dry for
a while once built but they will continue while painted.

Martin

On 2/19/2016 9:43 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 2/18/2016 9:05 PM, Martin Eastburn wrote:
>> I'll take pictures and consider putting them up as well. Should be
>> pretty.
>
> Thanks. Sounds like an interesting project especially with the wood
> you're using.
>
> Do post links to photos if you can.
>

Mm

Markem

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

27/01/2016 6:47 AM

On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 11:12:02 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:

>Moved the swing back about 3', now much less overpowering.
>
>For now, the only left to do with the swing is to put a drink platform
>between the A-frame uprights that matches the bench wood.
>
>Also got the decomposed granite laid down. No más barro ...
>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/BackyardDeckedPlatform2015?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ3Z9L2S7d_CJg#6244138383283993458
>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/BackyardDeckedPlatform2015?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ3Z9L2S7d_CJg#6244138421724346594

So is that a Festool ball in the middle of the deck?

Ll

Leon

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

09/01/2016 12:06 PM

On 1/9/2016 11:06 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 1/9/2016 4:28 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>
>> Maybe it's time to learn to weld?
>
> A bit rusty, but I do weld. AAMOF, I'd already put in the call to my Dad
> to see if I can borrow his trailer mounted Lincoln.
>
> Problem with that is he's 92, no telling when the last time he's
> maintained it, and he will gladly say "yes" because he knows damned good
> and well he raised me not to bring something borrowed back unless I made
> sure it was put back in like new condition
>
> ... be cheaper to hire a welder. ;)
>


Don't borrow it, build it there. :~)

Ll

Leon

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

26/01/2016 3:25 PM

On 1/26/2016 11:12 AM, Swingman wrote:
> Moved the swing back about 3', now much less overpowering.
>
> For now, the only left to do with the swing is to put a drink platform
> between the A-frame uprights that matches the bench wood.
>
> Also got the decomposed granite laid down. No más barro ...
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/BackyardDeckedPlatform2015?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ3Z9L2S7d_CJg#6244138383283993458
>
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/BackyardDeckedPlatform2015?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ3Z9L2S7d_CJg#6244138421724346594
>
>
>
>


Looks GREAT! You will probably have to maybe hit the granite with
Roundup every once in a while. I put down the same thing, stones and
decomposed granite, in Bryan's back yard when we still lived there.
Weeds still like to get in there and grow.

Are those pavers the kind that are designed to fit like a jig saw puzzle
if you wanted?

Again, a big improvement.....

Ll

Leon

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

18/02/2016 12:28 PM

On 2/18/2016 11:56 AM, Swingman wrote:
> Dead around here the last couple of days ...
>
> Not much woodworking to share yet, do have a couple of cabinet jobs in
> progress.
>
> Enjoyed having the time to install outdoor electrical (NOT), and low
> voltage lighting the past few days (and also wanted to test Google
> Photo's "Collections"):
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/fwnyXTCcPqe7xg7D7
>
> (NOTE: becaise this is Google Photos, and not PicasWeb photos, so you
> apparently have to chose the "i" for INFO to get captions/descriptions
> for an individual photo)
>
> Found low voltage lighting installation, except for waiting for dark, to
> be instant gratification.
>
> Picked up a 300w, multi tap transformer, some 14awg low voltage cable,
> and LED lights from Lowe's, and in just a few hours had cable laid and
> lights connected.
>
> Had enough fun to get a bit carried away in the process, but still
> subtracting here and there and moving around, so will wait to cover up
> the cable on the back two sides:
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/fwnyXTCcPqe7xg7D7
>
> Linda wants to experiment with some colored lens gels ... will probably
> be glad I'm colorblind.
>
> In any event, the weather has been perfect for coffee and breakfast in
> the morning on the contraption, and a swing and drink in the evening,
> AND, best of all, no more mud and bare dirt, and no interruptions.
>
> Although I enjoy our front porch and balcony, it is nice to have a bit
> of privacy and relief from the "what would you do about this?" when
> folks see the only local neighbor who actually owns a hammer sitting out
> in full view of a evening.
>


Looks good! No I need to work up the appetite to do the same, sorta.

Was there suppose to be a second link? Both point to the same.

Sk

Swingman

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

18/02/2016 11:56 AM

Dead around here the last couple of days ...

Not much woodworking to share yet, do have a couple of cabinet jobs in
progress.

Enjoyed having the time to install outdoor electrical (NOT), and low
voltage lighting the past few days (and also wanted to test Google
Photo's "Collections"):

https://goo.gl/photos/fwnyXTCcPqe7xg7D7

(NOTE: becaise this is Google Photos, and not PicasWeb photos, so you
apparently have to chose the "i" for INFO to get captions/descriptions
for an individual photo)

Found low voltage lighting installation, except for waiting for dark, to
be instant gratification.

Picked up a 300w, multi tap transformer, some 14awg low voltage cable,
and LED lights from Lowe's, and in just a few hours had cable laid and
lights connected.

Had enough fun to get a bit carried away in the process, but still
subtracting here and there and moving around, so will wait to cover up
the cable on the back two sides:

https://goo.gl/photos/fwnyXTCcPqe7xg7D7

Linda wants to experiment with some colored lens gels ... will probably
be glad I'm colorblind.

In any event, the weather has been perfect for coffee and breakfast in
the morning on the contraption, and a swing and drink in the evening,
AND, best of all, no more mud and bare dirt, and no interruptions.

Although I enjoy our front porch and balcony, it is nice to have a bit
of privacy and relief from the "what would you do about this?" when
folks see the only local neighbor who actually owns a hammer sitting out
in full view of a evening.

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Swingman

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

19/02/2016 10:08 AM

On 2/19/2016 8:41 AM, Lee Michaels wrote:

> I know exactly what you are talking about. Years ago, I worked for
> awhile at a small insurance agency. When I moved into the office, I
> built a couple cabinets and brought a toolbox with some basic tools in
> it. I helped assemble some furniture, etc. I suddenly became Mr. fixit
> for the entire office complex. A guy who builds things, assembles
> things, fixes things and actually owns TOOLS!!
>
> You would have thought I was an old dinosaur who had been resurrected or
> something. Then I had to track down all the tools that were "borrowed".
> Because nobody wanted to return them. I quickly installed a locking
> tool cabinet. I started a formal tool checkout procedure. And started
> charging "professional" rates for anybody outside of my own office.
> Apparently I was some kind of throwback, an anachronism. When I grew
> up, everybody had tools and fixed or built things. Not so much any more.

Common thread in this upscale, full of young professionals, enclave I
live in.

Just yesterday a young lady (Doctor) stopped by to see Linda about
signing up her kids for music lessons.

As she walked through she was was apparently bowled over by the fact
that someone's husband could actually be capable of making a house full
of handmade furniture and cabinetry.

Linda brought her out to the shop to meet me, whereupon she proceeded to
rain scorn upon her husband's lack of any ability to do anything that
required self reliance, literally doing a damned good job of calling him
a doofus.

Makes you wonder ... (except to appreciate why my youngest is not
impressed with the current pool of potential husband material).

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Swingman

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

27/01/2016 9:15 AM

On 1/27/2016 6:47 AM, Markem wrote:
> So is that a Festool ball in the middle of the deck?

ShihPoo ball (Shiatsu/Poodle) ball ... heavy on the poo.

https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/BackyardDeckedPlatform2015?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ3Z9L2S7d_CJg#6235830419134318770

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Kevin Miller

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

19/02/2016 2:19 PM

On 02/19/2016 12:38 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
> Kevin Miller <[email protected]> wrote in news:K7adnZ4oHvoX4FrLnZ2dnUU7-
> [email protected]:
>
>>
>> It's funny how society demands that women be deemed equal to men but
>> it's still a man's job to take out the garbage and fix things. LOL.
>
> There's good reason for that, with the fixing things:
>
> Charlie was installing a new door and found that one of the hinges was
> missing.
...

Ah - it all becomes clear...
:-)

...Kevin
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- Lawrence Summers

Cn

"ChairMan"

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

04/02/2016 1:48 AM

[email protected] wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 at 9:15:55 AM UTC-6,
> Swingman wrote:
>> On 1/27/2016 6:47 AM, Markem wrote:
>>> So is that a Festool ball in the middle of the deck?
>>
>> ShihPoo ball (Shiatsu/Poodle) ball ... heavy on the poo.
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/BackyardDeckedPlatform2015?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ3Z9L2S7d_CJg#6235830419134318770
>>
>
> Finally we see the job supervisor! Good to see she is on
> the job!
>
> Looks great, Karl. Like the planters, they add a nice
> "decorative"
> touch to the project.
>
> Robert

with Cabot falling to the anti VOC crowd, what is yours and
Karls go to sealer these days?

On

OFWW

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

05/01/2016 3:27 PM

On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 16:21:00 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:

>Twas high time for some recreational woodworking.
>
>Decided to take a much needed break from furniture and cabinet making
>during the holidays, and wanted it cheap as possible, so what did I do
>(besides cook, that is)?
>
>My backyard has been neglected, the grass has died due to the excess
>shade, in short a muddy mess. Ain't done with it yet, but it's finally
>starting to take shape and justify the resultant aches and pains.
>
>You'd think an old man would find something less taxing on his time off:
>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/BackyardDeckedPlatform2015?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ3Z9L2S7d_CJg
>
>Next step is to take up all the flagstone, put down a membrane, put in
>crushed/decomposed granite for the surrounding area, then reinstall the
>flagstone and pavers .... and buy a new yard swing.
>
>DISCLAIMER: This was built with the possibility of it being taken apart
>and hauled up to our lake house when I finally decide to learn how to
>relax. So, before the kibbitzers start getting sassy, this is most
>definitely NOT how YOU should make a _permanent_ , ground level,
>platform unless you are well aware of both the climate and soil conditions.
>
>All in all, nice eating your own dog food on occasion. I did enjoy using
>Kregg's Deck Jig for hidden fasteners on the ChoiceDek, although it
>would be more comfortable for us elderly to use it at waist height ...
>IOW, was damned glad to see that last board go on. Ouch!

Well you could have built it higher for that waist height ease of
construction. :) LOL

Is a heater or fire pit next?

Looking mighty good!

Sk

Swingman

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

05/01/2016 5:39 PM

On 1/5/2016 5:27 PM, OFWW wrote:

> Well you could have built it higher for that waist height ease of
> construction. :) LOL
>
> Is a heater or fire pit next?
>
> Looking mighty good!

Thanks!

LOL ... no fire pit, at least while it's here in Texas.

We do have one at the lake house in Arkansas, where the weather makes
more sense for a fire pit. I was envisioning that possibility for the
structure's future.

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in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

05/01/2016 6:00 PM

On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 16:21:00 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:

>Twas high time for some recreational woodworking.
>
>Decided to take a much needed break from furniture and cabinet making
>during the holidays, and wanted it cheap as possible, so what did I do
>(besides cook, that is)?
>
>My backyard has been neglected, the grass has died due to the excess
>shade, in short a muddy mess. Ain't done with it yet, but it's finally
>starting to take shape and justify the resultant aches and pains.
>
>You'd think an old man would find something less taxing on his time off:
>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/BackyardDeckedPlatform2015?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ3Z9L2S7d_CJg
>
>Next step is to take up all the flagstone, put down a membrane, put in
>crushed/decomposed granite for the surrounding area, then reinstall the
>flagstone and pavers .... and buy a new yard swing.
>
>DISCLAIMER: This was built with the possibility of it being taken apart
>and hauled up to our lake house when I finally decide to learn how to
>relax. So, before the kibbitzers start getting sassy, this is most
>definitely NOT how YOU should make a _permanent_ , ground level,
>platform unless you are well aware of both the climate and soil conditions.
>
>All in all, nice eating your own dog food on occasion. I did enjoy using
>Kregg's Deck Jig for hidden fasteners on the ChoiceDek, although it
>would be more comfortable for us elderly to use it at waist height ...
>IOW, was damned glad to see that last board go on. Ouch!

Looks great, you could do a hot tub for that ouch.

Sk

Swingman

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

09/01/2016 11:06 AM

On 1/9/2016 4:28 AM, J. Clarke wrote:

> Maybe it's time to learn to weld?

A bit rusty, but I do weld. AAMOF, I'd already put in the call to my Dad
to see if I can borrow his trailer mounted Lincoln.

Problem with that is he's 92, no telling when the last time he's
maintained it, and he will gladly say "yes" because he knows damned good
and well he raised me not to bring something borrowed back unless I made
sure it was put back in like new condition

... be cheaper to hire a welder. ;)

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in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

07/01/2016 1:19 PM

On 1/7/2016 12:41 PM, Kevin Miller wrote:

> The frame material didn't look like it was PT though - might have just
> been the photo or maybe a different flavor of treated wood than we have
> up here. Any worries about rot?

LOL As a home builder/GC, I wouldn't fall into that trap unless
suffering from a severe brain fart, which becomes more and more possible
with each passing year, so your concern is justified. :)

Probably just the photo or difference in monitors, as it is indeed #2SYP
pressure treated (CA) lumber, AWPA approved for ground contact and water
immersion.

It will undoubtedly eventually rot, but I should be long gone by then. ;)

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"G. Ross"

in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

26/01/2016 12:35 PM

Swingman wrote:
> Moved the swing back about 3', now much less overpowering.
>
> For now, the only left to do with the swing is to put a drink platform
> between the A-frame uprights that matches the bench wood.
>
> Also got the decomposed granite laid down. No más barro ...
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/BackyardDeckedPlatform2015?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ3Z9L2S7d_CJg#6244138383283993458
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/BackyardDeckedPlatform2015?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ3Z9L2S7d_CJg#6244138421724346594
>
>
>
Looks Good!

I sunk my step stones so that only 1/2 inch is exposed. Less of a
tripping hazard at my age.

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in reply to Swingman on 05/01/2016 4:21 PM

21/02/2016 6:24 AM

Swingman wrote:
> Dead around here the last couple of days ...
>
> Not much woodworking to share yet, do have a couple of cabinet jobs in
> progress.
>
> Enjoyed having the time to install outdoor electrical (NOT), and low
> voltage lighting the past few days (and also wanted to test Google
> Photo's "Collections"):
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/fwnyXTCcPqe7xg7D7
>
> (NOTE: becaise this is Google Photos, and not PicasWeb photos, so you
> apparently have to chose the "i" for INFO to get captions/descriptions
> for an individual photo)
>
> Found low voltage lighting installation, except for waiting for dark, to
> be instant gratification.
>
> Picked up a 300w, multi tap transformer, some 14awg low voltage cable,
> and LED lights from Lowe's, and in just a few hours had cable laid and
> lights connected.
>
> Had enough fun to get a bit carried away in the process, but still
> subtracting here and there and moving around, so will wait to cover up
> the cable on the back two sides:
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/fwnyXTCcPqe7xg7D7
>
> Linda wants to experiment with some colored lens gels ... will probably
> be glad I'm colorblind.
>
> In any event, the weather has been perfect for coffee and breakfast in
> the morning on the contraption, and a swing and drink in the evening,
> AND, best of all, no more mud and bare dirt, and no interruptions.
>
> Although I enjoy our front porch and balcony, it is nice to have a bit
> of privacy and relief from the "what would you do about this?" when
> folks see the only local neighbor who actually owns a hammer sitting out
> in full view of a evening.
>
Looking better and better. I am just about to remove some of my LV
lights. They love to catch the water hose and my two left feet
blunder into them.

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