On 5/2/2014 9:47 PM, Morgans wrote:
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> "John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> Two thoughts. If there was an "X" ax head, you could do a 4 way split
> just as easy.
> Also, the fulcrum is too high. It should be the same height as the top
> of the log to be split. As it is, the maul is moving sideways as it
> goes through the wood.
The X would probably work on the small logs in the demo, but the really
big stuff could be tough.
On 5/2/2014 6:04 PM, Michael wrote:
> On Friday, May 2, 2014 4:51:40 PM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote:
>> Start watching from 5:44
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>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kDG_oiUjew if you want to see how it
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>> is made start from the beginning. This thing is really quick and easy.
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>> --
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>> Jeff
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> That thing looks dangerous in about a thousand different ways, not to mention lung cancer.
>
Actually I thought it was pretty safe, and well made.
The weight of the head is what drives this puppy.
He counterbalances it with a spring and still must use his own weight to
drive it, but very controlled.
--
Jeff
On Friday, May 2, 2014 4:51:40 PM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote:
> Start watching from 5:44
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>
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kDG_oiUjew if you want to see how it
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> is made start from the beginning. This thing is really quick and easy.
>
>
>
> --
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> Jeff
That thing looks dangerous in about a thousand different ways, not to mention lung cancer.
[email protected] wrote:
> On Sat, 03 May 2014 00:36:10 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The X would probably work on the small logs in the demo, but the really
>> big stuff could be tough.
>
> It also appeared to me that the wood was very dry, didn't appear to
> have any knots and was not all that dense. I would question the
> efficacy of the splitter on heavier, gnarly wood.
>
Exactly,I would defy him to do the same on some of my gum tree.
On 5/3/2014 1:44 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Sat, 03 May 2014 00:36:10 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The X would probably work on the small logs in the demo, but the really
>> big stuff could be tough.
>
> It also appeared to me that the wood was very dry, didn't appear to
> have any knots and was not all that dense. I would question the
> efficacy of the splitter on heavier, gnarly wood.
>
Yep, I noticed that too. But still his tool was still easier than me
swinging my axe, safer, and quicker than waiting for a ram .
--
Jeff
On 5/2/2014 6:04 PM, Michael wrote:
> On Friday, May 2, 2014 4:51:40 PM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote:
>> Start watching from 5:44
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kDG_oiUjew if you want to see how it
>>
>> is made start from the beginning. This thing is really quick and easy.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Jeff
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> That thing looks dangerous in about a thousand different ways, not to mention lung cancer.
>
I see where the operator is getting his hands close, but I don't see any
other great danger. I'd have worn gloves too.
On 5/3/2014 3:30 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Michael wrote:
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>> He's pulling the blade onto a piece that he's holding steady with his
>> hands. Perhaps I should have said 10 reasons why it's unsafe.
>
> I wondered if that was what was concerning you. I too, noted that but then
> I realized that unless the stock moved, there really was no way it could be
> dangerous to him, as the strike into the wood was very defined by the the
> throw of the head. It's really no different than pushing a piece of wood
> through a table saw.
>
Funny that you mentioned a table saw, when I watched the clip I thought
something that serves the same function as a push stick would be a good
idea there. Maybe a claw like gadget to hold the wood in place. A stick
with a spike driven through it would serve the purpose.
John
On 5/3/2014 12:57 PM, dpb wrote:
> On 5/3/2014 12:20 PM, Michael wrote:
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>> He's pulling the blade onto a piece that he's holding steady with his
>> hands. ...
>
> He guides it into place but I never saw him not remove his hand before
> the actual blow. I give the ok on the risk scale it's pretty low.
>
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Until the task becomes boring and routine and he gets into a rhythm and
then misses a step, the one where he moves his hand out of the way.
On Saturday, May 3, 2014 8:21:59 AM UTC-5, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Michael wrote:
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> > That thing looks dangerous in about a thousand different ways, not to
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> > mention lung cancer.
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> Well - it has an axe head on it so I guess that can be considered dangerous,
>
> but I don't really see a lot of dangerous about it. What were you keying
>
> on? The guy really built that thing.
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> --
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> -Mike-
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> [email protected]
He's pulling the blade onto a piece that he's holding steady with his hands. Perhaps I should have said 10 reasons why it's unsafe.
On Friday, May 2, 2014 4:51:40 PM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote:
> Start watching from 5:44
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kDG_oiUjew if you want to see how it
>
> is made start from the beginning. This thing is really quick and easy.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Jeff
This looks promising:
http://www.geek.com/news/physics-exploiting-axe-splits-wood-in-record-time-1591725/
But expensive.
"Morgans" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>Also, the fulcrum is too high. It should be the same height as the top of
>the log to be split. As it is, the maul is moving sideways as it goes
>through the wood.
Given his apparent affinity for complexity, an alternative would be a
four-link set up so that the splitting "blade" goes straight up and down
instead of swinging in an arch. ;~)
John
On Sat, 3 May 2014 10:20:52 -0700 (PDT), Michael
<[email protected]> wrote:
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>He's pulling the blade onto a piece that he's holding steady with his hands. Perhaps I should have said 10 reasons why it's unsafe.
I did notice that. He seems to be checking the hit location first,
then pulling it into place. People here probably use a similar
technique using a miter saw. I always check to see where the blade
will hit and where my hand is before I hit the switch. So far, I can
still count to ten.
"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "woodchucker" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
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>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kDG_oiUjew if you want to see how it is
>>made start from the beginning. This thing is really quick and easy.
>
> Seems like a lot of effort for such small logs... most of them could be
> split with an axe, don't even need a maul!
That did occur to me too, but it would be a blessing if your back was bad,
or rotator cuff or something. It looks like it takes very little effort to
pull down on the arm.
Two thoughts. If there was an "X" ax head, you could do a 4 way split just
as easy.
Also, the fulcrum is too high. It should be the same height as the top of
the log to be split. As it is, the maul is moving sideways as it goes
through the wood.
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Michael wrote:
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> That thing looks dangerous in about a thousand different ways, not to
> mention lung cancer.
Well - it has an axe head on it so I guess that can be considered dangerous,
but I don't really see a lot of dangerous about it. What were you keying
on? The guy really built that thing.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
woodchucker wrote:
> On 5/3/2014 1:44 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Sat, 03 May 2014 00:36:10 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> The X would probably work on the small logs in the demo, but the
>>> really big stuff could be tough.
>>
>> It also appeared to me that the wood was very dry, didn't appear to
>> have any knots and was not all that dense. I would question the
>> efficacy of the splitter on heavier, gnarly wood.
>>
>
> Yep, I noticed that too. But still his tool was still easier than me
> swinging my axe, safer, and quicker than waiting for a ram .
Well... maybe not so much on the quicker point. On some splits - yes I
agree, but once you develop the rhythm of splitting, the lag time in the ram
is not all that great. You don't fully retract the ram, you re-load during
the retract - that kind of thing. Still some lag time, no doubt, but not
all that great. Plus - no effort beyond pushing the handle. His video did
not show his device going through a big knarly hunk of maple. I commonly
split stuff that makes my 27 ton splitter think about the work it's doing.
I'll guarantee you his rig will not go through pieces like that as they do
in those little pieces he was splitting.
As for the axe - oh..... there's lots of reasons not to even bother...
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-Mike-
[email protected]
Michael wrote:
>
> He's pulling the blade onto a piece that he's holding steady with his
> hands. Perhaps I should have said 10 reasons why it's unsafe.
I wondered if that was what was concerning you. I too, noted that but then
I realized that unless the stock moved, there really was no way it could be
dangerous to him, as the strike into the wood was very defined by the the
throw of the head. It's really no different than pushing a piece of wood
through a table saw.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Sat, 03 May 2014 00:36:10 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>The X would probably work on the small logs in the demo, but the really
>big stuff could be tough.
It also appeared to me that the wood was very dry, didn't appear to
have any knots and was not all that dense. I would question the
efficacy of the splitter on heavier, gnarly wood.
"woodchucker" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kDG_oiUjew if you want to see how it is
>made start from the beginning. This thing is really quick and easy.
Seems like a lot of effort for such small logs... most of them could be
split with an axe, don't even need a maul!