JS

Joe Shmoe

28/09/2003 1:11 AM

Cedar Blanket Chest


Hi All,

I'm looking for plans for a cedar chest. More specifically, I'm looking
for a plan that requires a minimum number of power tools. And by "minimum"
I mean "table saw" because I like to do things by hand.

I have no experience with cedar so I thought I'd look at some plans to see
what's what. But when I do a search I get like a gazillion webpages. So,
what I'm asking y'all is this, "have you bought a plan? which one? and
would you recommend I get the same?"

Thanks


This topic has 9 replies

Nn

Nova

in reply to Joe Shmoe on 28/09/2003 1:11 AM

28/09/2003 1:45 AM

Joe Shmoe wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I'm looking for plans for a cedar chest. More specifically, I'm looking
> for a plan that requires a minimum number of power tools. And by "minimum"
> I mean "table saw" because I like to do things by hand.
>
> I have no experience with cedar so I thought I'd look at some plans to see
> what's what. But when I do a search I get like a gazillion webpages. So,
> what I'm asking y'all is this, "have you bought a plan? which one? and
> would you recommend I get the same?"
>
> Thanks

Here's a web site I found by doing a Google search for "free cedar chest plan"
.

http://www.freeww.com/chests.html

I only checked one on the list, and was able to download the plan.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

LH

"Lowell Holmes"

in reply to Joe Shmoe on 28/09/2003 1:11 AM

27/09/2003 10:43 PM

Mike Dunbar built a blanket chest with hand tools in an article featured in
Fine Woodworking No. 134 (Feb. 99). He used pine, but cedar could be
incorporated. You can buy past copies from Taunton Press.

"Joe Shmoe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Qyqdb.24726$O85.10817@pd7tw1no...
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm looking for plans for a cedar chest. More specifically, I'm looking
> for a plan that requires a minimum number of power tools. And by "minimum"
> I mean "table saw" because I like to do things by hand.
>
> I have no experience with cedar so I thought I'd look at some plans to see
> what's what. But when I do a search I get like a gazillion webpages. So,
> what I'm asking y'all is this, "have you bought a plan? which one? and
> would you recommend I get the same?"
>
> Thanks

JJ

[email protected] (Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT)

in reply to Joe Shmoe on 28/09/2003 1:11 AM

28/09/2003 1:17 AM

Sun, Sep 28, 2003, 1:11am (EDT+4) [email protected] (Joe=A0Shmoe)
proclaims:
I'm looking for plans <snip>

Aren't we all?

You use a search phrase like "free chest plans", quotes and all,
and go from there.

You don't need a table saw for any project. It just makes it
faster, using one.


JOAT
If history repeats itself, I should think we can expect the same thing
again.
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Hu

HerHusband

in reply to Joe Shmoe on 28/09/2003 1:11 AM

28/09/2003 5:49 PM

Joe,

> I'm looking for plans for a cedar chest. More specifically, I'm
> looking for a plan that requires a minimum number of power tools. And
> by "minimum" I mean "table saw" because I like to do things by hand.

My first "real" woodworking project was a cedar hope chest I built for my
girlfriend (now my wife). I was a teenager with no money, and no tools. I
had no real woodworking experience, and no real plan in mind.

The cedar I used were scraps from a lumber mill that her dad was using for
firewood. It was mostly in bad shape, many pieces still having the bark on
it. The size and dimensions of the chest were mostly determined by the
pieces of wood I had to work with.

I "borrowed" some basic handtools (handsaw, block plane, screwdriver, and
a junky electric drill) from my stepdad. I ripped the boards to width with
the handsaw, and planed them smooth with the blockplane. I then predrilled
holes and screwed the boards to simple fir 2x2 supports. I plugged each
hole with little wood "mushroom" plugs I found at a hardware store. I
borrowed a finish sander from my friends dad to do most of the smoothing,
but much of it was done with a piece of sandpaper held in my hand. I
finished it all off with a few coats of clear gloss polyurethane, and added
some brass handles and corner protectors. It's admittedly rough, but
considering my talent at the time and the tools I had to work with, I'm
rather proud of it. My wife still displays it in our living room to this
day. The color and richness of the wood has only gotten better as it has
aged, and sometimes it's hard to believe it was all destined to be
firewood.

In comparison, my wife decided to build a similar hope chest for her sister
about 10 years later. By then I had an old table saw to use. While it made
some jobs faster and easier, and the precision made for better fitting
joints, her hope chest turned out about the same as mine did (though she
had the benefit of mine as a pattern to refer to.)

In other words, with a little determination, you can build lots of things
with even basic hand tools if you need to.

Have fun!

Anthony

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Andy Dingley

in reply to Joe Shmoe on 28/09/2003 1:11 AM

30/09/2003 12:16 AM

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:27:36 GMT, Joe Shmoe <[email protected]> wrote:

>Thank you! That's what was really worrying me; would the cedar (Thuja
>plicata aka Western Red Cedar) be strong enough?

WRC is quite strong, but _very_ soft. I wouldn't use it. If I am
using cedar, and it's not "humidor-grade", then it will be Eastern Red
Cedar. This is a lot different to the Western; denser, harder and
better smelling. Still commonplace and cheap though.


--
Smert' spamionam

JS

Joe Shmoe

in reply to Joe Shmoe on 28/09/2003 1:11 AM

29/09/2003 9:27 PM

Andy Dingley wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 01:11:12 GMT, Joe Shmoe <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I'm looking for plans for a cedar chest.
>
> Doesn't have to be entirely cedar. If you go for a post-and-rail
> design, then I'd maybe make the panels from cedar, but certainly not
> the framing.
>
> Personally I wouldn't make a cedar chest, unless I was doing something
> small in true Cedar of Lebanon. Cedars are just too soft to make good
> hard-working furniture - I'd use them for lining or baseboards, but
> not for the exterior.
>


Thank you! That's what was really worrying me; would the cedar (Thuja
plicata aka Western Red Cedar) be strong enough? I didn't think it would
but I've never worked with it before (for woodworking).





>>More specifically, I'm looking
>>for a plan that requires a minimum number of power tools. And by "minimum"
>>I mean "table saw" because I like to do things by hand.
>
> Minimum sensible set of power tools is really "table saw and
> thicknesser" - but you can always have a timberyard thickness it for
> you. Preparing boards by hand is either serious re-enactment (which
> is a different hobby to "making things from wood") or a mug's game.
> Life is short - don't spend it hand-thicknessing, just to prove a
> point.
>


That's on my wish list :) Christmas is coming up I keep tell SWMBO. In
the interim, I have access to a value added mill that will plane/joint/size
anything (within reason) for me.



> I've made Mike Dunbar's 6 board design "with hand tools", but I
> cheated on the early stock preparation. I jointed the boards up and
> biscuit jointed them by machine, simply because I was using narrow
> boards where the original makers would have had access to much wider
> wide stock. From then on though, I worked by hand - all sawing,
> rebating and edge moulding.
>
>
> --
> Smert' spamionam


Thanks again.

JS

Joe Shmoe

in reply to Joe Shmoe on 28/09/2003 1:11 AM

28/09/2003 4:00 PM

Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT wrote:

> Sun, Sep 28, 2003, 1:11am (EDT+4) [email protected] (Joe Shmoe)
> proclaims:
> I'm looking for plans <snip>
>
> Aren't we all?
>
> You use a search phrase like "free chest plans", quotes and all,
> and go from there.
>


I wasn't really looking for free plans (although free is always good), what
I really wanted was opinions from people who have bought and used plans.

I can google with the best of them; problem is this: unless you buy the
plan you really don't know what the requirements are. (At least for the web
pages I was looking at).

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Andy Dingley

in reply to Joe Shmoe on 28/09/2003 1:11 AM

29/09/2003 8:54 PM

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 01:11:12 GMT, Joe Shmoe <[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm looking for plans for a cedar chest.

Doesn't have to be entirely cedar. If you go for a post-and-rail
design, then I'd maybe make the panels from cedar, but certainly not
the framing.

Personally I wouldn't make a cedar chest, unless I was doing something
small in true Cedar of Lebanon. Cedars are just too soft to make good
hard-working furniture - I'd use them for lining or baseboards, but
not for the exterior.

>More specifically, I'm looking
>for a plan that requires a minimum number of power tools. And by "minimum"
>I mean "table saw" because I like to do things by hand.

Minimum sensible set of power tools is really "table saw and
thicknesser" - but you can always have a timberyard thickness it for
you. Preparing boards by hand is either serious re-enactment (which
is a different hobby to "making things from wood") or a mug's game.
Life is short - don't spend it hand-thicknessing, just to prove a
point.

I've made Mike Dunbar's 6 board design "with hand tools", but I
cheated on the early stock preparation. I jointed the boards up and
biscuit jointed them by machine, simply because I was using narrow
boards where the original makers would have had access to much wider
wide stock. From then on though, I worked by hand - all sawing,
rebating and edge moulding.


--
Smert' spamionam

MG

"Mike G"

in reply to Joe Shmoe on 28/09/2003 1:11 AM

27/09/2003 9:52 PM

Funny, off hand I can't think of any wood made project that REQUIRES ANY
power tools.

--
Mike G.
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Joe Shmoe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm looking for plans for a cedar chest. More specifically, I'm looking
> for a plan that requires a minimum number of power tools. And by "minimum"
> I mean "table saw" because I like to do things by hand.
>
> I have no experience with cedar so I thought I'd look at some plans to see
> what's what. But when I do a search I get like a gazillion webpages. So,
> what I'm asking y'all is this, "have you bought a plan? which one? and
> would you recommend I get the same?"
>
> Thanks


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