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Electric Comet

12/02/2016 1:21 PM

another word for round stock


the magic word for round stock is billet
pole also works but usually is a larger diameter and rough finished


but billets are not cheap

typical use is for baseball bats and come in a variety of materials

hickory ash maple birch















This topic has 23 replies

Ll

Leon

in reply to Electric Comet on 12/02/2016 1:21 PM

13/02/2016 8:26 AM

<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 1:04:42 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
>> Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:n9liag$qku$1
>> @dont-email.me:
>>
>>>
>>> the magic word for round stock is billet
>>> pole also works but usually is a larger diameter and rough finished
>>>
>>>
>>> but billets are not cheap
>>>
>>> typical use is for baseball bats and come in a variety of materials
>>>
>>> hickory ash maple birch
>>>
>>
>> Another word to keep in mind is "rod". When I'm looking for round brass,
>> for example, I search for "brass rod" and usually find what I'm looking
>> for. For wood, you'll probably get closet rods and the like but it might
>> be worth keeping in mind.
>>
>> Puckdropper
>
> If only there was a clue(s) as to the eventual/intended use...probably a
> litany of words available, but until then we are all wasting time guessing...
>

As Swingman would say. Bingo!

b

in reply to Electric Comet on 12/02/2016 1:21 PM

12/02/2016 1:36 PM

On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 4:23:16 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> the magic word for round stock is billet
> pole also works but usually is a larger diameter and rough finished
>
>
> but billets are not cheap
>
> typical use is for baseball bats and come in a variety of materials
>
> hickory ash maple birch
I know of billet as pertains to steel...wood? check for yourself:

Origin of billet
Middle English ; from Anglo-Fr, diminutive of bille, bill
to assign to lodging by billet
to assign to a post
to serve a billet on
to be billeted or quartered
a short, thick piece of firewood
OBS. a wooden club
a long, rectangular or cylindrical unfinished bar of iron or steel, usually smaller than c. 232 sq cm (c. 36 sq in) in cross section
a similar, generally smaller, bar made from a nonferrous metal
ARCHIT. a log-shaped insert in a Norman molding

Read more at http://www.yourdictionary.com/billet#96YlwPhlmvTxl6kX.99

On

OFWW

in reply to Electric Comet on 12/02/2016 1:21 PM

15/02/2016 11:15 PM

On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 20:43:21 -0800, Electric Comet
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 15:03:49 -0500
>[email protected] wrote:
>
>> And MOST bat billets are not round. Technically a wooden "billet" is
>
>list a supplier of these not round bat billets
>
>i have not seen one
>
http://www.bellforestproducts.com/baseball-bat-blanks/

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Electric Comet on 12/02/2016 1:21 PM

13/02/2016 6:04 AM

Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:n9liag$qku$1
@dont-email.me:

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> the magic word for round stock is billet
> pole also works but usually is a larger diameter and rough finished
>
>
> but billets are not cheap
>
> typical use is for baseball bats and come in a variety of materials
>
> hickory ash maple birch
>

Another word to keep in mind is "rod". When I'm looking for round brass,
for example, I search for "brass rod" and usually find what I'm looking
for. For wood, you'll probably get closet rods and the like but it might
be worth keeping in mind.

Puckdropper

Ll

Leon

in reply to Electric Comet on 12/02/2016 1:21 PM

12/02/2016 5:39 PM

On 2/12/2016 4:46 PM, John McCoy wrote:
> Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:n9liag$qku$1
> @dont-email.me:
>
>>
>> the magic word for round stock is billet
>
> No, not necessarily. A billet is a piece of rough stock
> which is roughly the same width and thickness (a round
> bar, of course, is always the same width and thickness).
> You start with a billet and machine it (on a lathe or
> whatever) to make something.

Yes necessarily, google "wood billet". A little over 500,000 results.





>
> FWIW, I don't approve of maple baseball bats. The recent
> epidemic of broken bats in MLB is because they're using
> maple, instead of the more appropriate ash.
>
> John
>
I'll be sure to call the commissioner and let him know your feelings. ;~)

c

in reply to Electric Comet on 12/02/2016 1:21 PM

16/02/2016 5:06 PM

On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 20:43:21 -0800, Electric Comet
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 15:03:49 -0500
>[email protected] wrote:
>
>> And MOST bat billets are not round. Technically a wooden "billet" is
>
>list a supplier of these not round bat billets
>
>i have not seen one
>
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http://www.leatherstockinghandsplits.com/hand-split-billets.aspx
http://www.rockbats.com/company_manufacturing.html
http://www.bairdbrothers.com/3-x-3-x-36-Hard-Maple-Baseball-Bat-Blank-P4216.aspx
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CLEAN-WHITE-ASH-KILN-DRIED-BASEBALL-BAT-BLANKS-3-X-3-X-36-/250852123088
http://www.mainebillets.com/
http://www.kencraftstore.com/lathe_turning_products.htm
As for why?
http://www.prowlerbats.com/#!why-choose-prowler/ckre

just for starters.

St Marys bats used to be made just down the road in Cambridge
Hespeller) Ontario, and the blanks uses to come in by the traincarload
- and they were not round

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b

in reply to Electric Comet on 12/02/2016 1:21 PM

13/02/2016 5:56 AM

On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 1:04:42 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:n9liag$qku$1
> @dont-email.me:
>
> >
> > the magic word for round stock is billet
> > pole also works but usually is a larger diameter and rough finished
> >
> >
> > but billets are not cheap
> >
> > typical use is for baseball bats and come in a variety of materials
> >
> > hickory ash maple birch
> >
>
> Another word to keep in mind is "rod". When I'm looking for round brass,
> for example, I search for "brass rod" and usually find what I'm looking
> for. For wood, you'll probably get closet rods and the like but it might
> be worth keeping in mind.
>
> Puckdropper

If only there was a clue(s) as to the eventual/intended use...probably a litany of words available, but until then we are all wasting time guessing...

c

in reply to Electric Comet on 12/02/2016 1:21 PM

12/02/2016 11:34 PM

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 22:46:05 -0000 (UTC), John McCoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:n9liag$qku$1
>@dont-email.me:
>
>>
>> the magic word for round stock is billet
>
>No, not necessarily. A billet is a piece of rough stock
>which is roughly the same width and thickness (a round
>bar, of course, is always the same width and thickness).
>You start with a billet and machine it (on a lathe or
>whatever) to make something.
>
>FWIW, I don't approve of maple baseball bats. The recent
>epidemic of broken bats in MLB is because they're using
>maple, instead of the more appropriate ash.
>
>John
Or if you want a very lively bat - hickory.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Electric Comet on 12/02/2016 1:21 PM

13/02/2016 11:55 PM

On 2/13/2016 10:05 PM, John McCoy wrote:
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On 2/12/2016 4:46 PM, John McCoy wrote:
>
>>> No, not necessarily. A billet is a piece of rough stock
>>> which is roughly the same width and thickness (a round
>>> bar, of course, is always the same width and thickness).
>>> You start with a billet and machine it (on a lathe or
>>> whatever) to make something.
>>
>> Yes necessarily, google "wood billet". A little over 500,000
>> results.
>
> Not, not necessarily. Use a dictionary for heavens
> sake, not Google. (altho, if you did Google, how did
> you miss the pictures of square and rectangular billets
> that appear on the first page?)
>
> John
>


The dictionary is not F_____G going to find what you are looking for or
tell you where to buy "wood billets. Google does. AND that is the
whole POINT to this thread isn't it?

Is your dictionary up to date? Printed earlier today with absolutely
everything that has changed meaning up until this morning? And does it
tell you where to buy wood billets???????????????

and did YOU Google wood billet??????????????????

I still see wood billet first on the list of wood billets.

Yes Cometman did just say billet but again common sense might lead a
thinking person to add wood if you want a wood billet.




Never mind, here is your clue, and let me get you a trophy out of the
burlap sack.

https://www.google.com/search?q=wood+billet&biw=1536&bih=783&espv=2&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwitreS3x_bKAhVBF2MKHUm3CcUQsAQIJw&dpr=1.25



Ll

Leon

in reply to Electric Comet on 12/02/2016 1:21 PM

18/02/2016 12:33 PM

On 2/12/2016 3:21 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
>
> the magic word for round stock is billet
> pole also works but usually is a larger diameter and rough finished
>
>
> but billets are not cheap
>
> typical use is for baseball bats and come in a variety of materials
>
> hickory ash maple birch
>

I found another source for your round billets.

Is snakewood OK?

http://www.tehwoods.com/wood-shop/other-stock/billetslogsother?species=snakewood

JM

John McCoy

in reply to Electric Comet on 12/02/2016 1:21 PM

12/02/2016 10:46 PM

Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:n9liag$qku$1
@dont-email.me:

>
> the magic word for round stock is billet

No, not necessarily. A billet is a piece of rough stock
which is roughly the same width and thickness (a round
bar, of course, is always the same width and thickness).
You start with a billet and machine it (on a lathe or
whatever) to make something.

FWIW, I don't approve of maple baseball bats. The recent
epidemic of broken bats in MLB is because they're using
maple, instead of the more appropriate ash.

John

JM

John McCoy

in reply to Electric Comet on 12/02/2016 1:21 PM

14/02/2016 4:05 AM

Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On 2/12/2016 4:46 PM, John McCoy wrote:

>> No, not necessarily. A billet is a piece of rough stock
>> which is roughly the same width and thickness (a round
>> bar, of course, is always the same width and thickness).
>> You start with a billet and machine it (on a lathe or
>> whatever) to make something.
>
> Yes necessarily, google "wood billet". A little over 500,000
> results.

Not, not necessarily. Use a dictionary for heavens
sake, not Google. (altho, if you did Google, how did
you miss the pictures of square and rectangular billets
that appear on the first page?)

John

bb

bn

in reply to Electric Comet on 12/02/2016 1:21 PM

13/02/2016 4:29 PM

On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 3:43:17 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 05:56:03 -0800 (PST)
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > If only there was a clue(s) as to the eventual/intended
> > use...probably a litany of words available, but until then we are all
>
> with that thinking in place your searches will be limited to what
> makes sense to you but the internets and the denizens on it often
> do not make sense
>
> billet was the only word needed
>
> myriad is the word you are looking for not litany

No, litany is the word I wanted to use...Please do not tell anyone here what they want to say...I believe in trying to help, as do many others, but I have grown weary of the lack of cooperation from the primary recipient...

c

in reply to Electric Comet on 12/02/2016 1:21 PM

12/02/2016 11:33 PM

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 13:36:49 -0800 (PST), [email protected] wrote:

>On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 4:23:16 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
>> the magic word for round stock is billet
>> pole also works but usually is a larger diameter and rough finished
>>
>>
>> but billets are not cheap
>>
>> typical use is for baseball bats and come in a variety of materials
>>
>> hickory ash maple birch
>I know of billet as pertains to steel...wood? check for yourself:
>
>Origin of billet
>Middle English ; from Anglo-Fr, diminutive of bille, bill
>to assign to lodging by billet
>to assign to a post
>to serve a billet on
>to be billeted or quartered
>a short, thick piece of firewood
>OBS. a wooden club
>a long, rectangular or cylindrical unfinished bar of iron or steel, usually smaller than c. 232 sq cm (c. 36 sq in) in cross section
>a similar, generally smaller, bar made from a nonferrous metal
>ARCHIT. a log-shaped insert in a Norman molding
>
>Read more at http://www.yourdictionary.com/billet#96YlwPhlmvTxl6kX.99
A billett of ash for a bat generally isn't round.
The billett is what goes into the lathe to be made round and shaped
like a bat. - generally square or square with broken edges - slightly
Octagonal.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Electric Comet on 12/02/2016 1:21 PM

12/02/2016 5:43 PM

On 2/12/2016 3:36 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 4:23:16 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
>> the magic word for round stock is billet
>> pole also works but usually is a larger diameter and rough finished
>>
>>
>> but billets are not cheap
>>
>> typical use is for baseball bats and come in a variety of materials
>>
>> hickory ash maple birch
> I know of billet as pertains to steel...wood? check for yourself:


Definitions and do not dictate what items are commonly called.

Ever hear of a Biscuit Cutter. It is a machine that cuts a slotted arc,
not biscuits.


Google "wood billets"

Mr. Comet is correct this time.

c

in reply to Electric Comet on 12/02/2016 1:21 PM

13/02/2016 3:03 PM

On 13 Feb 2016 06:04:37 GMT, Puckdropper
<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:

>Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:n9liag$qku$1
>@dont-email.me:
>
>>
>> the magic word for round stock is billet
>> pole also works but usually is a larger diameter and rough finished
>>
>>
>> but billets are not cheap
>>
>> typical use is for baseball bats and come in a variety of materials
>>
>> hickory ash maple birch
>>
>
>Another word to keep in mind is "rod". When I'm looking for round brass,
>for example, I search for "brass rod" and usually find what I'm looking
>for. For wood, you'll probably get closet rods and the like but it might
>be worth keeping in mind.
>
>Puckdropper
And MOST bat billets are not round. Technically a wooden "billet" is
riven or split - not sawn - so there is no main grain structure
interrupted. Most bat billets are sawn - but there are quite a few
"riven" or split billets, particularly in the North East.

EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 12/02/2016 1:21 PM

12/02/2016 4:18 PM

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 13:36:49 -0800 (PST)
[email protected] wrote:

> I know of billet as pertains to steel...wood? check for yourself:

there are aluminum billets too and copper and etc and wood of course

a dictionary is always good but they often are slow to add or change

common parlance takes a while to get into dictionaries if it ever does

but the world moves at a pace now where most do not care

the tech industry makes up words and uses them as they like

they also repurpose words and sometimes in a way contrary to
what many have come to know














EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 12/02/2016 1:21 PM

12/02/2016 5:52 PM

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 20:29:02 -0500
"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I imagine common usage has morphed over time... Also, today it would
> be hard to imagine a wood vendor selling a piece of split wood
> without adding value by making it cylindrical!

words do morph for sure

no imagination needed just lookup artisanal firewood













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in reply to Electric Comet on 12/02/2016 1:21 PM

12/02/2016 8:56 PM

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Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 12/02/2016 1:21 PM

13/02/2016 12:41 PM

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 05:56:03 -0800 (PST)
[email protected] wrote:

> If only there was a clue(s) as to the eventual/intended
> use...probably a litany of words available, but until then we are all

with that thinking in place your searches will be limited to what
makes sense to you but the internets and the denizens on it often
do not make sense

billet was the only word needed

myriad is the word you are looking for not litany











EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 12/02/2016 1:21 PM

15/02/2016 8:43 PM

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 15:03:49 -0500
[email protected] wrote:

> And MOST bat billets are not round. Technically a wooden "billet" is

list a supplier of these not round bat billets

i have not seen one


















EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 12/02/2016 1:21 PM

17/02/2016 5:59 PM

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 17:06:11 -0500
[email protected] wrote:

> http://www.leatherstockinghandsplits.com/hand-split-billets.aspx
> http://www.rockbats.com/company_manufacturing.html
> http://www.bairdbrothers.com/3-x-3-x-36-Hard-Maple-Baseball-Bat-Blank-P4216.aspx
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/CLEAN-WHITE-ASH-KILN-DRIED-BASEBALL-BAT-BLANKS-3-X-3-X-36-/250852123088
> http://www.mainebillets.com/
> http://www.kencraftstore.com/lathe_turning_products.htm

prices are interesting some of the square stock is priced higher
than round stock i have found

some are unclear on whether it is square or round

although some sold both the pricing again did not seem any better
with square stock

some call them dowels and some call them turning blanks


for now laminating is fine and much cheaper but it is good to have
a list of suppliers














JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to Electric Comet on 12/02/2016 1:21 PM

12/02/2016 8:29 PM

"Electric Comet" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

>the magic word for round stock is billet
>pole also works but usually is a larger diameter and rough finished

Yes, in the context of machined stock the term "billet" is sometimes used
for round stock. However, I'm more familiar with the term in the context of
wood that is split. It could be wood split to rough size prior to turning or
other shaping, or it could simply be a piece of split wood for use in a fire
or some other rough use. My reference source is how I heard the term used
while working at Williamsburg. I've also heard Peter Follansbee refer to the
wood he is splitting as billets.

I imagine common usage has morphed over time... Also, today it would be hard
to imagine a wood vendor selling a piece of split wood without adding value
by making it cylindrical!


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