I have decided to take on building a kitchen island as my first real
furniture project. I was originally going to use cherry from a tree
we felled on the property. But after milling some of it I realized
that this is going to take a looooong time. So, I'm now thinking of
going instead with birds-eye maple and paduk. The reason for this is
I already build a bar top in the kitchen using these woods:
http://jtpryan.smugmug.com/Woodworking/WoodWorking/DSC03453/729987582_tU2G8-L.jpg
The current hand-me down island can be seen in the background. I want
to build something like this:
http://jtpryan.smugmug.com/Woodworking/Kitchen-Island/14555892_dCd5m
The top in the example is not what we will do, we are still thinking
about that. Anyway, the basic design of the base in the picture is
what I am looking for, but it is the material's and where to use them
I am looking for suggestions about.
Thanks
Jim
On Nov 8, 7:27=A0pm, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > what I am looking for, but it is the material's and where to use them
> > I am looking for suggestions about.
>
> > Thanks
> > Jim
>
> I am not big on multi-colored furniture pieces although it is clearly
> a matter of taste and it can be done well at times.
>
> Maybe build it all from Maple and put a bead of the Padi along the
> bottom edge of the whole case and along the top edge of the drawers
> and doors. Just make a strip about 3/16" think and an inch wide and
> round over the front edge. Then apply it in those few locations. Also
> add a similar bead at the bottom and maybe a slightly thicker piece at
> the top of the pilasters. Finally, if you use pegged M&T you can add
> padi pegs on the doors and case work or maybe even raised pyramid
> pags, ala-Greene and Greene.
I know what you mean. I was thinking maybe somewhere between the two
suggestions. Perhaps maple throughout other then the legs and the
braces for the top? Can you explain more about your last sentence:
" Finally, if you use pegged M&T you can add padi pegs on the doors
and case work or maybe even raised pyramid pags, ala-Greene and
Greene."
I can't visualize what you mean. Would you have a link to an example?
On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 06:16:20 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 11/9/2010 5:32 AM, jtpr wrote:
>> On Nov 8, 7:27 pm, "SonomaProducts.com"
>
>> " Finally, if you use pegged M&T you can add padi pegs on the doors
>> and case work or maybe even raised pyramid pags, ala-Greene and
>> Greene."
>>
>> I can't visualize what you mean. Would you have a link to an example?
>
>Basically he is suggesting you use contrasting woods to peg your M&T
>joints, a la Greene & Greene, turn of the last century Arts and Crafts
>gurus primarily known for their work on the Gamble House:
>
>http://www.gamblehouse.org/
>
>Darrell Peart, who posted here occasionally in years past is a shining,
>modern practitioner of the G&G style:
>
>http://www.furnituremaker.com/
Indeed he is. He's also an author:
http://www.amazon.com/Greene-Design-Elements-Workshop/dp/0941936961/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_1
Robert Lang also has books on Craftsman/A&C/G&G styles:
http://fwd4.me/Y7F all his books.
--
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Experience is what you get if you don't.
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> I can't visualize what you mean. =A0Would you have a link to an example?-=
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I was saying either a typical round peg in the contrasting darker
color, even faux ones if you don't actually use mortise and tenon
joints. Or the standing square pegs like Greene & Greene, which
Darrell Peart is doing. Darrel does a classic sort of puffy look and
other people do a more ridgid little pyramid.
You can see here on the chest if you scroll down the puufy versions of
square ebony pegs on African Mahogany. http://www.furnituremaker.com/Blanke=
t_Chest.htm
Here you can see a more squared off version
http://homesteadcraftsman.com/market/index.php?main_page=3Dpopup_image&pID=
=3D30
> what I am looking for, but it is the material's and where to use them
> I am looking for suggestions about.
>
> Thanks
> Jim
I am not big on multi-colored furniture pieces although it is clearly
a matter of taste and it can be done well at times.
Maybe build it all from Maple and put a bead of the Padi along the
bottom edge of the whole case and along the top edge of the drawers
and doors. Just make a strip about 3/16" think and an inch wide and
round over the front edge. Then apply it in those few locations. Also
add a similar bead at the bottom and maybe a slightly thicker piece at
the top of the pilasters. Finally, if you use pegged M&T you can add
padi pegs on the doors and case work or maybe even raised pyramid
pags, ala-Greene and Greene.
On Nov 8, 8:14=A0am, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
> jtpr wrote:
> > I have decided to take on building a kitchen island as my first real
> > furniture project. =A0I was originally going to use cherry from a tree
> > we felled on the property. =A0But after milling some of it I realized
> > that this is going to take a looooong time. =A0So, I'm now thinking of
> > going instead with birds-eye maple and paduk. =A0The reason for this is
> > I already build a bar top in the kitchen using these woods:
>
> >http://jtpryan.smugmug.com/Woodworking/WoodWorking/DSC03453/729987582...
>
> > The current hand-me down island can be seen in the background. =A0I wan=
t
> > to build something like this:
>
> >http://jtpryan.smugmug.com/Woodworking/Kitchen-Island/14555892_dCd5m
>
> > The top in the example is not what we will do, we are still thinking
> > about that. =A0Anyway, the basic design of the base in the picture is
> > what I am looking for, but it is the material's and where to use them
> > I am looking for suggestions about.
>
> Assuming you want to keep the island and bar top similar in appearance, I
> would...
>
> 1. use the maple as primary
>
> 2. accent with padouk lengthwise and centrally in drawers and frame membe=
rs,
> legs too.
>
> BTW, the maple in the bar top is curly maple, not birdseye.
>
> --
>
> dadiOH
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Yeah, in that picture it looks like curly, but believe me, it is
birdseye, there are a LOT of eyes, but for some reason in the pics it
doesn't jump out. I never noticed that. Here is a link to the whole
gallery...
http://jtpryan.smugmug.com/Woodworking/WoodWorking/1080675_4aNx3
jtpr wrote:
> Now, this is probably not
> the brightest question, but what is the best way to join the sides to
> the legs? I mean, if the rails are shorter then the sitles that means
> that the side of the stile will run along the leg, so how is best to
> hold it together, biscuits? If somebody can point me in the direction
> of a similar plan where this is illustrated, that would be great.
Glue
Nothing mechanical is needed but if you don't trust just glue (I do) you
could add...
1. screws (behind hinges or plugged)
2. tongue and groove
3. biscuits or dowels
4. you could make the face frame with half lap joints and make the back half
of the rails into tenons into the legs.
At the risk of repeating myslf, just glue will work fine.
--
dadiOH
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On Nov 9, 1:03=A0pm, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I can't visualize what you mean. =A0Would you have a link to an example=
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>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I was saying either a typical round peg in the contrasting darker
> color, even faux ones if you don't actually use mortise and tenon
> joints. Or the standing square pegs like Greene & Greene, which
> Darrell Peart is doing. Darrel does a classic sort of puffy look and
> other people do a more ridgid little pyramid.
>
> You can see here on the chest if you scroll down the puufy versions of
> square ebony pegs on African Mahogany.http://www.furnituremaker.com/Blank=
et_Chest.htm
>
> Here you can see a more squared off versionhttp://homesteadcraftsman.com/=
market/index.php?main_page=3Dpopup_image&...
I see. Great suggestion, this I will do. Now, this is probably not
the brightest question, but what is the best way to join the sides to
the legs? I mean, if the rails are shorter then the sitles that means
that the side of the stile will run along the leg, so how is best to
hold it together, biscuits? If somebody can point me in the direction
of a similar plan where this is illustrated, that would be great.
-Jim
jtpr wrote:
> I have decided to take on building a kitchen island as my first real
> furniture project. I was originally going to use cherry from a tree
> we felled on the property. But after milling some of it I realized
> that this is going to take a looooong time. So, I'm now thinking of
> going instead with birds-eye maple and paduk. The reason for this is
> I already build a bar top in the kitchen using these woods:
>
> http://jtpryan.smugmug.com/Woodworking/WoodWorking/DSC03453/729987582_tU2G8-L.jpg
>
> The current hand-me down island can be seen in the background. I want
> to build something like this:
>
> http://jtpryan.smugmug.com/Woodworking/Kitchen-Island/14555892_dCd5m
>
> The top in the example is not what we will do, we are still thinking
> about that. Anyway, the basic design of the base in the picture is
> what I am looking for, but it is the material's and where to use them
> I am looking for suggestions about.
Assuming you want to keep the island and bar top similar in appearance, I
would...
1. use the maple as primary
2. accent with padouk lengthwise and centrally in drawers and frame members,
legs too.
BTW, the maple in the bar top is curly maple, not birdseye.
--
dadiOH
____________________________
dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
On 11/9/2010 5:32 AM, jtpr wrote:
> On Nov 8, 7:27 pm, "SonomaProducts.com"
> " Finally, if you use pegged M&T you can add padi pegs on the doors
> and case work or maybe even raised pyramid pags, ala-Greene and
> Greene."
>
> I can't visualize what you mean. Would you have a link to an example?
Basically he is suggesting you use contrasting woods to peg your M&T
joints, a la Greene & Greene, turn of the last century Arts and Crafts
gurus primarily known for their work on the Gamble House:
http://www.gamblehouse.org/
Darrell Peart, who posted here occasionally in years past is a shining,
modern practitioner of the G&G style:
http://www.furnituremaker.com/
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