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OFWW

05/01/2016 11:12 AM

Question on wall mounted cabinet.

In my kitchen there is a soffit ringing the three walls. I trimmed
back part of one soffit where built in oven and broiler were to keep
all the soffit's to a 14" depth. It is basically a 9 X 9 "U" shaped
kitchen style. The window being at the bottom of the "U". Soffit goes
across the window top.

I was wanting to build 14" wall cabinets with a 15" corner cabinet
(15"D X 23" W one wall, 23"W X 15"D window wall) with resulting door
at an angle. One on each side of the window. There is to be a molding
at the top of the cabinets basically to hide the soffit edge, as it
was not installed straight when the house was built. So I figured I
could straighten it all out with the cabinets and molding.

My question is, would that look klutzy since the molding would be free
standing from the soffit by about 3/4" or so? If not would running LED
lights behind the molding for soft lighting be overkill if I were to
install them?

PS; I was also hoping for a little more storage space.


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OFWW

in reply to OFWW on 05/01/2016 11:12 AM

05/01/2016 3:50 PM

On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 13:30:56 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:

>On 1/5/2016 1:12 PM, OFWW wrote:
>> In my kitchen there is a soffit ringing the three walls. I trimmed
>> back part of one soffit where built in oven and broiler were to keep
>> all the soffit's to a 14" depth. It is basically a 9 X 9 "U" shaped
>> kitchen style. The window being at the bottom of the "U". Soffit goes
>> across the window top.
>>
>> I was wanting to build 14" wall cabinets with a 15" corner cabinet
>> (15"D X 23" W one wall, 23"W X 15"D window wall) with resulting door
>> at an angle. One on each side of the window. There is to be a molding
>> at the top of the cabinets basically to hide the soffit edge, as it
>> was not installed straight when the house was built. So I figured I
>> could straighten it all out with the cabinets and molding.
>>
>> My question is, would that look klutzy since the molding would be free
>> standing from the soffit by about 3/4" or so? If not would running LED
>> lights behind the molding for soft lighting be overkill if I were to
>> install them?
>>
>> PS; I was also hoping for a little more storage space.
>>
>If the molding is in the front bottom of the soffit and hiding part of
>it I don't think it would matter if it were not against the soffit.
>
>That would be a good place to put ribbon LED or rope lighting directing
>light up.\
>
>If I understand you here. ;~)

Yes, lights up. As to the molding, nailed to the top of the cabinet
just below the Soffit, like this " / "

Ll

Leon

in reply to OFWW on 05/01/2016 11:12 AM

05/01/2016 1:30 PM

On 1/5/2016 1:12 PM, OFWW wrote:
> In my kitchen there is a soffit ringing the three walls. I trimmed
> back part of one soffit where built in oven and broiler were to keep
> all the soffit's to a 14" depth. It is basically a 9 X 9 "U" shaped
> kitchen style. The window being at the bottom of the "U". Soffit goes
> across the window top.
>
> I was wanting to build 14" wall cabinets with a 15" corner cabinet
> (15"D X 23" W one wall, 23"W X 15"D window wall) with resulting door
> at an angle. One on each side of the window. There is to be a molding
> at the top of the cabinets basically to hide the soffit edge, as it
> was not installed straight when the house was built. So I figured I
> could straighten it all out with the cabinets and molding.
>
> My question is, would that look klutzy since the molding would be free
> standing from the soffit by about 3/4" or so? If not would running LED
> lights behind the molding for soft lighting be overkill if I were to
> install them?
>
> PS; I was also hoping for a little more storage space.
>
If the molding is in the front bottom of the soffit and hiding part of
it I don't think it would matter if it were not against the soffit.

That would be a good place to put ribbon LED or rope lighting directing
light up.\

If I understand you here. ;~)

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to OFWW on 05/01/2016 11:12 AM

05/01/2016 5:02 PM

OFWW wrote:
> In my kitchen there is a soffit ringing the three walls. I trimmed
> back part of one soffit where built in oven and broiler were to keep
> all the soffit's to a 14" depth. It is basically a 9 X 9 "U" shaped
> kitchen style. The window being at the bottom of the "U". Soffit goes
> across the window top.
>
> I was wanting to build 14" wall cabinets with a 15" corner cabinet
> (15"D X 23" W one wall, 23"W X 15"D window wall) with resulting door
> at an angle. One on each side of the window. There is to be a molding
> at the top of the cabinets basically to hide the soffit edge, as it
> was not installed straight when the house was built. So I figured I
> could straighten it all out with the cabinets and molding.
>
> My question is, would that look klutzy since the molding would be free
> standing from the soffit by about 3/4" or so? If not would running LED
> lights behind the molding for soft lighting be overkill if I were to
> install them?
>
> PS; I was also hoping for a little more storage space.

I would make the cabinet less deep than the soffit by a couple of inches,
butt the cabinet to the soffit bottom as much as possible, keeping the
cabinet level, and use a piece of molding to hide any gap (3/4 x 3/4 cove
molding looks good and bends easily).

You COULD do what you are proposing but the depth of the soffit may well
vary (due to taping, mud, et al) and it can be a real problem getting things
flush. If you go that way, the molding appearance will be improved (IMO) by
using a thin molding, cutting a cove into top and bottom edges or both (thin
+ coves). I'd forget the LED lights.

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OFWW

in reply to OFWW on 05/01/2016 11:12 AM

05/01/2016 4:12 PM

On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:02:45 -0500, "dadiOH" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>OFWW wrote:
>> In my kitchen there is a soffit ringing the three walls. I trimmed
>> back part of one soffit where built in oven and broiler were to keep
>> all the soffit's to a 14" depth. It is basically a 9 X 9 "U" shaped
>> kitchen style. The window being at the bottom of the "U". Soffit goes
>> across the window top.
>>
>> I was wanting to build 14" wall cabinets with a 15" corner cabinet
>> (15"D X 23" W one wall, 23"W X 15"D window wall) with resulting door
>> at an angle. One on each side of the window. There is to be a molding
>> at the top of the cabinets basically to hide the soffit edge, as it
>> was not installed straight when the house was built. So I figured I
>> could straighten it all out with the cabinets and molding.
>>
>> My question is, would that look klutzy since the molding would be free
>> standing from the soffit by about 3/4" or so? If not would running LED
>> lights behind the molding for soft lighting be overkill if I were to
>> install them?
>>
>> PS; I was also hoping for a little more storage space.
>
>I would make the cabinet less deep than the soffit by a couple of inches,
>butt the cabinet to the soffit bottom as much as possible, keeping the
>cabinet level, and use a piece of molding to hide any gap (3/4 x 3/4 cove
>molding looks good and bends easily).
>
>You COULD do what you are proposing but the depth of the soffit may well
>vary (due to taping, mud, et al) and it can be a real problem getting things
>flush. If you go that way, the molding appearance will be improved (IMO) by
>using a thin molding, cutting a cove into top and bottom edges or both (thin
>+ coves). I'd forget the LED lights.
>
When I repaired the soffit I noticed as far down as I could see they
used studs on 16" Ctr, and studs between them to nail the cabinets up
by using a block nailed to the ff and then nail up. but yes, there is
that drywall mud variable which might account for the bulge on the
horizontal run parallel to the wall.

Once I removed the molding from the top of the existing cabinets I
could see all the gaps between the drywall and the tops of the them.
On the west side of the kitchen the cabinet is sagging enough from the
weight of dishes and glasses over 40 years of usage and If I don't
replace those before another earthquake I'd bet they would be all over
the floor, looking like a Greek wedding party floor. ;)

I was going to use rail runners in the tops of the cabinet,
specifically so I would have the freedom to nail or screw to the studs
or 2x4 blocks they have nailed up there. Thought I would use a stud
finder after the cabinets are fully down to mark the spots.

Thanks for your insight!


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