NE

"Never Enough Money"

25/02/2007 12:03 PM

3 years off -- how to store?

I'm taking a foreign assignment for 2 to 3 years. The company is
paying to store my household thing (which include my garage
woodworking shop). Any advice on how to pack/store my valuable Lie-
Nileson and Veritas tools, all my hand power tools (routers, jig saws,
etc). How about my table saw, band saw, drill press, etc.

I suppose the movers will five me some advice when they come to scope
out everything.

It's going to be tough not woodworking for 2 or 3 years but, hey, this
assignment is a chance of a lifetime.

No, selling is not an option.
No, letting you keep it while I'm gone is not an option.

TIA.


This topic has 29 replies

JY

"J."

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

26/02/2007 10:50 PM

The bronze bodied LN tools will not corrode but their blades might. So
wrap the blades in an oiled cloth.

Put a heavy coat of wax on everything else.

How many of us have obtained cast iron tooling from damp basements that,
with a little elbow grease, shine right up and work as well as the day
they were made? I should expect your bandsaw, DP, t-saw etc to do well
if oiled and waxed and put on casters so that they'll move easily.

Sticker and crate the lumber yourself. You're the only one in the room
that knows how to treat it right.

I see no reason why a plywood chest with the remainder of your hand
power tools wouldn't survive a couple of years of storage in a dry,
constant temperature and humidity facility.

That last point is probably key. You gotta know where this stuff is
going and how the place is operated. The run of the mill mini storage
shed on the side of the highway probably isn't what you want. Finding
the right place may be more trouble and expense than you've bargained for.

(If the storage facility makes you worry about your tools, what might
your matresses, sofas and clothing smell like when you get back?)

You sure you don't want to lend us some of those tools while you're gone?

J.

Never Enough Money wrote:
> I'm taking a foreign assignment for 2 to 3 years. The company is
> paying to store my household thing (which include my garage
> woodworking shop). Any advice on how to pack/store my valuable Lie-
> Nileson and Veritas tools, all my hand power tools (routers, jig saws,
> etc). How about my table saw, band saw, drill press, etc.
>
> I suppose the movers will five me some advice when they come to scope
> out everything.
>
> It's going to be tough not woodworking for 2 or 3 years but, hey, this
> assignment is a chance of a lifetime.
>
> No, selling is not an option.
> No, letting you keep it while I'm gone is not an option.
>
> TIA.
>

Rn

Renata

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

26/02/2007 9:51 AM

On 25 Feb 2007 12:05:14 -0800, "Never Enough Money"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Feb 25, 1:03 pm, "Never Enough Money" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> I'm taking a foreign assignment for 2 to 3 years. The company is
>> paying to store my household thing (which include my garage
>> woodworking shop). Any advice on how to pack/store my valuable Lie-
>> Nileson and Veritas tools, all my hand power tools (routers, jig saws,
>> etc). How about my table saw, band saw, drill press, etc.
>>
>> I suppose the movers will five me some advice when they come to scope
>> out everything.
>>
>> It's going to be tough not woodworking for 2 or 3 years but, hey, this
>> assignment is a chance of a lifetime.
>>
>> No, selling is not an option.
>> No, letting you keep it while I'm gone is not an option.
>>
>> TIA.
>
>Plus, I have a lot of wood, some of it valuable. I'm sure movers
>aren't going to sticker it.

The movers are going to treat your wood like it's scrap 2x4s. Or
worse. DAMHIK.

One suggestion is to hire someone (have your co. pay for it,
hopefully) to properly stack and sticker the wood - in some fashion
(groupings) that it doesn't take a crane to move it (I'd guess your
co. won't extend their generosity as far as supplying a crane or other
such heavy equipment. ;-)

Renata

JJ

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

26/02/2007 4:11 PM

Sun, Feb 25, 2007, 12:03pm (EST-3) [email protected]
(Never=A0Enough=A0Money) doth lament:
I'm taking a foreign assignment for 2 to 3 years. The company is paying
to store my household thing (which include my garage woodworking shop).
Any advice on how to pack/store <snip>

Unless you're a museum, with their storage resources, they'll be a
total loss. Instead I highly recomend a donation to an non-profit
organication, in particular Joint Occupational Arts & Trades. I hold
this organization in very high esteem, and the tools will be deeply
appreciated, and lovingly used and maintained. Have a good trip..



JOAT
When in doubt, go to sleep.
- Mully Small

NE

"Never Enough Money"

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

25/02/2007 12:05 PM

On Feb 25, 1:03 pm, "Never Enough Money" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I'm taking a foreign assignment for 2 to 3 years. The company is
> paying to store my household thing (which include my garage
> woodworking shop). Any advice on how to pack/store my valuable Lie-
> Nileson and Veritas tools, all my hand power tools (routers, jig saws,
> etc). How about my table saw, band saw, drill press, etc.
>
> I suppose the movers will five me some advice when they come to scope
> out everything.
>
> It's going to be tough not woodworking for 2 or 3 years but, hey, this
> assignment is a chance of a lifetime.
>
> No, selling is not an option.
> No, letting you keep it while I'm gone is not an option.
>
> TIA.

Plus, I have a lot of wood, some of it valuable. I'm sure movers
aren't going to sticker it.

b

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

25/02/2007 3:21 PM

On Feb 25, 1:03 pm, "Never Enough Money" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I'm taking a foreign assignment for 2 to 3 years. The company is
> paying to store my household thing (which include my garage
> woodworking shop). Any advice on how to pack/store my valuable Lie-
> Nileson and Veritas tools, all my hand power tools (routers, jig saws,
> etc). How about my table saw, band saw, drill press, etc.
>
> I suppose the movers will five me some advice when they come to scope
> out everything.
>
> It's going to be tough not woodworking for 2 or 3 years but, hey, this
> assignment is a chance of a lifetime.
>
> No, selling is not an option.
> No, letting you keep it while I'm gone is not an option.
>
> TIA.

have the last project in your shop be building some crates- big enough
that they each hold a whole category of things- say handheld power
tools- but small enough that you can (barely) move them by yourself.
pack them up tight, screw the lids on and have the last one closed be
the one your cordless screwdriver goes into....

Tt

"Too_Many_Tools"

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

25/02/2007 5:58 PM

On Feb 25, 7:43 pm, Patriarch <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Never Enough Money" <[email protected]> wrote innews:[email protected]:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I'm taking a foreign assignment for 2 to 3 years. The company is
> > paying to store my household thing (which include my garage
> > woodworking shop). Any advice on how to pack/store my valuable Lie-
> > Nileson and Veritas tools, all my hand power tools (routers, jig saws,
> > etc). How about my table saw, band saw, drill press, etc.
>
> > I suppose the movers will five me some advice when they come to scope
> > out everything.
>
> > It's going to be tough not woodworking for 2 or 3 years but, hey, this
> > assignment is a chance of a lifetime.
>
> > No, selling is not an option.
> > No, letting you keep it while I'm gone is not an option.
>
> > TIA.
>
> So, you're going to Scandinavia, huh? Should be a lot of fun. Better
> than trying to start up a wooddorker's store, for certain.
>
> I'm going to offer another idea for your tools. Sell them off, at least
> the stationary power tools and wood supplies. Hang on to your LN and
> Veritas where you're going to be, but let the table saws, etc. go to
> someone who will use them, and keep them up. Buy new when you get back.
>
> Life changes in two to three years. If you're still interested, buy
> new, bigger & better. But the cost of the storage, even if someone else
> is paying it, is more than the value of the tools. BTDT.
>
> And look for some of the really nice Euro hand tools while you're there.
> Glad you sorted this all out.
>
> Patriarch,
> formerly an employee of the Finns...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

If it was me I would take all hand tools, use Boeshield or LPS3 on
them, place them in plastic pails with lids and then place the pails
in a crate. When you come back, they will look like new.

The portable power tools will likely be stored the same way along with
their accessories.

The larger power tools..well if you can buy them new I would sell
them unless they have sentimental value or are one of a kind.

One thing to consider...household items like furniture, clothes,
books, electronics have little value after a few years....unlike
tools. Pack accordingly.

As for the wood...tough call. If it is VALUABLE then keep it otherwise
time to sell.

Good luck with the journey!

TMT

NE

"Never Enough Money"

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

25/02/2007 7:54 PM

On Feb 25, 6:43 pm, Patriarch <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Never Enough Money" <[email protected]> wrote innews:[email protected]:
>
>
>
> > I'm taking a foreign assignment for 2 to 3 years. The company is
> > paying to store my household thing (which include my garage
> > woodworking shop). Any advice on how to pack/store my valuable Lie-
> > Nileson and Veritas tools, all my hand power tools (routers, jig saws,
> > etc). How about my table saw, band saw, drill press, etc.
>
> > I suppose the movers will five me some advice when they come to scope
> > out everything.
>
> > It's going to be tough not woodworking for 2 or 3 years but, hey, this
> > assignment is a chance of a lifetime.
>
> > No, selling is not an option.
> > No, letting you keep it while I'm gone is not an option.
>
> > TIA.
>
> So, you're going to Scandinavia, huh? Should be a lot of fun. Better
> than trying to start up a wooddorker's store, for certain.
>
> I'm going to offer another idea for your tools. Sell them off, at least
> the stationary power tools and wood supplies. Hang on to your LN and
> Veritas where you're going to be, but let the table saws, etc. go to
> someone who will use them, and keep them up. Buy new when you get back.
>
> Life changes in two to three years. If you're still interested, buy
> new, bigger & better. But the cost of the storage, even if someone else
> is paying it, is more than the value of the tools. BTDT.
>
> And look for some of the really nice Euro hand tools while you're there.
> Glad you sorted this all out.
>
> Patriarch,
> formerly an employee of the Finns...


Thanks. It was a tough time and then the offer from Sweden came
in....Ahhh. Just when I though I was running out of future....

s

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

26/02/2007 1:49 AM

I went through the same thing when I moved overseas, to Japan, five
years ago (at the time I was only planning on two).

The first thing I did was sell off any tools which I figured I would
be upgrading anyway. Then I separated all my tools (actually all the
stuff in my house as well) into three basic categories:

1. Tools that I would be keeping in long term storage until my return
to the States.
2. Tools that I would be keeping in mid to long term storage with the
possibility of having them shipped to me overseas at some later date.
This stuff was sorted specially and packed safely enough to be
shipped.
3. Tools that I would be bringing with me right from the start.

The tools I brought were some of my most prized hand tools - planes,
chisels and carving knifves, etc..

For the tools that got packed in storage I wiped over with camelia oil
and packed them in boxes with desiccant packs. I bought a case of
those packets from some company I found on the net. (Note I've found
that camelia oil tends to harden a bit over the long term and can take
some effort to remove.)

A corner of one room in my apartment has served as my "workshop" for
the past five years and I dream of the day I'll have a real shop
again. However, I've worked on some nice projects during this time
and my hand tool technique has improved considerably since that's all
I am really able to use in this situation.



NE

"Never Enough Money"

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

26/02/2007 5:59 AM

On Feb 25, 7:58 pm, Patriarch <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote innews:[email protected]:
>
> > If and when I do get a place to work again, I'll be perfectly happy to
> > spend money on a new cabinet table saw and enjoy the process of
> > building up a workshop again. My father ingrained into me that 'you
> > just don't ever sell your tools', but times change and there comes a
> > point where it just doesn't make any sense not to change with them.
>
> If these tools were for earning a living, then maybe that makes sense, not
> to sell. But I've got stuff from hobbies 20 years back, things I can't do
> any more, for a bunch of reasons. That makes no sense. Neither does the
> collection of band instruments hiding in a closet, since the last son
> graduated from high school 10 years back. I really don't care that, in
> five to ten years, a grandchild might play trombone and need an instrument.
>
> We drag stuff around. A more educated psychologist probably knows what all
> this is called. I don't care. There are not sufficient closets or attics
> or basements for all this stuff.
>
> Sell or give away what you won't or cannot use. Someone will love you for
> it.
>
> Patriarch

I've often told my wife "if it hasn't been used in two years, get rid
of it." I suspect she uses the rule, "if it hasn't been used in two
hundred years, get rid of it." We disagree by 198 years.

FWIW, check out my blog at swedensojourn.blogspot.com.

NE

"Never Enough Money"

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

26/02/2007 6:15 AM

On Feb 26, 2:49 am, [email protected] wrote:
> I went through the same thing when I moved overseas, to Japan, five
> years ago (at the time I was only planning on two).
>
> The first thing I did was sell off any tools which I figured I would
> be upgrading anyway. Then I separated all my tools (actually all the
> stuff in my house as well) into three basic categories:
>
> 1. Tools that I would be keeping in long term storage until my return
> to the States.
> 2. Tools that I would be keeping in mid to long term storage with the
> possibility of having them shipped to me overseas at some later date.
> This stuff was sorted specially and packed safely enough to be
> shipped.
> 3. Tools that I would be bringing with me right from the start.
>
> The tools I brought were some of my most prized hand tools - planes,
> chisels and carving knifves, etc..
>
> For the tools that got packed in storage I wiped over with camelia oil
> and packed them in boxes with desiccant packs. I bought a case of
> those packets from some company I found on the net. (Note I've found
> that camelia oil tends to harden a bit over the long term and can take
> some effort to remove.)
>
> A corner of one room in my apartment has served as my "workshop" for
> the past five years and I dream of the day I'll have a real shop
> again. However, I've worked on some nice projects during this time
> and my hand tool technique has improved considerably since that's all
> I am really able to use in this situation.


Sell tools? Hmmm.
My drill press, mortizer, and Laguna band saw are all less than 2
years old. My Unisaw is 15 years old. My jointer is 10 years old. My
planer is really old -- Makita doesn't even make the model any more.

So maybe I keep the newer tools.......and Craig's List the others.

RN

"RayV"

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

26/02/2007 7:06 AM

On Feb 26, 4:49 am, [email protected] wrote:
> I went through the same thing when I moved overseas, to Japan, five
> years ago (at the time I was only planning on two).
>
> The first thing I did was sell off any tools which I figured I would
> be upgrading anyway. Then I separated all my tools (actually all the
> stuff in my house as well) into three basic categories:
>
> 1. Tools that I would be keeping in long term storage until my return
> to the States.
> 2. Tools that I would be keeping in mid to long term storage with the
> possibility of having them shipped to me overseas at some later date.
> This stuff was sorted specially and packed safely enough to be
> shipped.
> 3. Tools that I would be bringing with me right from the start.
>
> The tools I brought were some of my most prized hand tools - planes,
> chisels and carving knifves, etc..
>
> For the tools that got packed in storage I wiped over with camelia oil
> and packed them in boxes with desiccant packs. I bought a case of
> those packets from some company I found on the net. (Note I've found
> that camelia oil tends to harden a bit over the long term and can take
> some effort to remove.)
>
> A corner of one room in my apartment has served as my "workshop" for
> the past five years and I dream of the day I'll have a real shop
> again. However, I've worked on some nice projects during this time
> and my hand tool technique has improved considerably since that's all
> I am really able to use in this situation.

Forget the desiccant. This stuff is dirt cheap and works great.
http://www.tidycat.com/GetPage.aspx?ContentID=106&MenuItemID=-1

I put some in one of SWMBO's old knee-his and put it in the safe to
keep the papers from getting moldy and the steel from rusting.

Jj

"Joe"

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

26/02/2007 5:36 PM

On Feb 25, 2:03 pm, "Never Enough Money" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I'm taking a foreign assignment for 2 to 3 years. The company is
> paying to store my household thing (which include my garage
> woodworking shop). Any advice on how to pack/store my valuable Lie-
> Nileson and Veritas tools, all my hand power tools (routers, jig saws,
> etc). How about my table saw, band saw, drill press, etc.
>
> I suppose the movers will five me some advice when they come to scope
> out everything.
>
> It's going to be tough not woodworking for 2 or 3 years but, hey, this
> assignment is a chance of a lifetime.
>
> No, selling is not an option.
> No, letting you keep it while I'm gone is not an option.
>
> TIA.

Commercial unheated storage will reduce your every unprotected tool to
rusty junk iside of a year. I know this because I own and operate a
storage business. The protection schemes available are well known from
military and other sources, so you absolutely must go to that much
trouble to protect your treasures.
One novel way I heard of to avoid some of the hassles was finding a
friend with some spare space and renting the room in his house at the
same rate as the self storage company. Most folks don't mind having an
extra $100 a month or so to do a buddy a favor. Talk it over and have
some legal help to get it in writing. HTH

Joe

Ds

"DonkeyHody"

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

28/02/2007 5:36 AM

On Feb 25, 2:03 pm, "Never Enough Money" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I'm taking a foreign assignment for 2 to 3 years. The company is
> paying to store my household thing (which include my garage
> woodworking shop). Any advice on how to pack/store my valuable Lie-
> Nileson and Veritas tools, all my hand power tools (routers, jig saws,
> etc). How about my table saw, band saw, drill press, etc.
>
> I suppose the movers will five me some advice when they come to scope
> out everything.
>
> It's going to be tough not woodworking for 2 or 3 years but, hey, this
> assignment is a chance of a lifetime.
>
> No, selling is not an option.
> No, letting you keep it while I'm gone is not an option.
>
> TIA.

Been there, done that. Unless your storage facility is climate
controlled, leave ALL your most prized posessions in the care of
friends or family. When my stuff came out of storage, every piece of
wood furniture was covered with a white chalky mold and every cast
iron surface had a very light coat of rust on it. All the wood
furniture had swelled so much the doors wouldn't close right for
months. They also busted a rocker off the cradle I built before my
daughter was born. I nearly cried right there in front of the
movers. It all cleaned up with a little elbow grease, and I was able
to glue the rocker back with an almost invisible glue line. I'm not
saying to farm out all your stationary machines, but I'd coat all the
steel with a good coat of topcoat or wax. The real treasures I'd box
up myself and leave with ANYONE besides a storage facility. That goes
for furniture items and other treasures too.

DonkeyHody

Tt

"Too_Many_Tools"

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

01/03/2007 8:52 PM

>
> (If the storage facility makes you worry about your tools, what might
> your matresses, sofas and clothing smell like when you get back?)
>

This is a very important point.

Storing anything means it is worth the storage cost in time, effort
and money.

An exercise I sometime do is to walk through the house and ask what I
would miss if a fire burned the house down.

The answer is there really isn't that much I would miss...almost all
of it can all be replaced.

In my shop....well that is a bit harder....there are tools that can't
be replaced because of their rarity or family history...but again it
is a fraction of what the shop contains.

Another suggestion for storage containers are surplus coolers and HARD
sided suitcases from the local thrift stores. Place anything in a
plastic bag and toss it along with dessicant in the cooler/suitcase
and it is protected from rodents and humidity.

I would also build crates in fixed sizes so a pallet jack or forklift
can handle the goods in bulk.

TMT

On Feb 26, 9:50 pm, "J." <[email protected]> wrote:
> The bronze bodied LN tools will not corrode but their blades might. So
> wrap the blades in an oiled cloth.
>
> Put a heavy coat of wax on everything else.
>
> How many of us have obtained cast iron tooling from damp basements that,
> with a little elbow grease, shine right up and work as well as the day
> they were made? I should expect your bandsaw, DP, t-saw etc to do well
> if oiled and waxed and put on casters so that they'll move easily.
>
> Sticker and crate the lumber yourself. You're the only one in the room
> that knows how to treat it right.
>
> I see no reason why a plywood chest with the remainder of your hand
> power tools wouldn't survive a couple of years of storage in a dry,
> constant temperature and humidity facility.
>
> That last point is probably key. You gotta know where this stuff is
> going and how the place is operated. The run of the mill mini storage
> shed on the side of the highway probably isn't what you want. Finding
> the right place may be more trouble and expense than you've bargained for.
>
> (If the storage facility makes you worry about your tools, what might
> your matresses, sofas and clothing smell like when you get back?)
>
> You sure you don't want to lend us some of those tools while you're gone?
>
> J.
>
>
>
> Never Enough Money wrote:
> > I'm taking a foreign assignment for 2 to 3 years. The company is
> > paying to store my household thing (which include my garage
> > woodworking shop). Any advice on how to pack/store my valuable Lie-
> > Nileson and Veritas tools, all my hand power tools (routers, jig saws,
> > etc). How about my table saw, band saw, drill press, etc.
>
> > I suppose the movers will five me some advice when they come to scope
> > out everything.
>
> > It's going to be tough not woodworking for 2 or 3 years but, hey, this
> > assignment is a chance of a lifetime.
>
> > No, selling is not an option.
> > No, letting you keep it while I'm gone is not an option.
>
> > TIA.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

ss

"sherry"

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

01/03/2007 9:23 PM

On Mar 2, 9:52 am, "Too_Many_Tools" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > (If the storage facility makes you worry about your tools, what might
> > your matresses, sofas and clothing smell like when you get back?)
>
> This is a very important point.
>
> Storing anything means it is worth the storage cost in time, effort
> and money.
>
> AnexerciseI sometime do is to walk through the house and ask what I
> would miss if a fire burned the house down.
>
> The answer is there really isn't that much I would miss...almost all
> of it can all be replaced.
>
> In my shop....well that is a bit harder....there are tools that can't
> be replaced because of their rarity or family history...but again it
> is a fraction of what the shop contains.
>
> Another suggestion for storage containers are surplus coolers and HARD
> sided suitcases from the local thrift stores. Place anything in a
> plastic bag and toss it along with dessicant in the cooler/suitcase
> and it is protected from rodents and humidity.
>
> I would also build crates in fixed sizes so a pallet jack or forklift
> can handle the goods in bulk.
>
> TMT
>
> On Feb 26, 9:50 pm, "J." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The bronze bodied LN tools will not corrode but their blades might. So
> > wrap the blades in an oiled cloth.
>
> > Put a heavy coat of wax on everything else.
>
> > How many of us have obtained cast iron tooling from damp basements that,
> > with a little elbow grease, shine right up and work as well as the day
> > they were made? I should expect your bandsaw, DP, t-saw etc to do well
> > if oiled and waxed and put on casters so that they'll move easily.
>
> > Sticker and crate the lumber yourself. You're the only one in the room
> > that knows how to treat it right.
>
> > I see no reason why a plywood chest with the remainder of your hand
> > power tools wouldn't survive a couple of years of storage in a dry,
> > constant temperature and humidity facility.
>
> > That last point is probably key. You gotta know where this stuff is
> > going and how the place is operated. The run of the mill mini storage
> > shed on the side of the highway probably isn't what you want. Finding
> > the right place may be more trouble and expense than you've bargained for.
>
> > (If the storage facility makes you worry about your tools, what might
> > your matresses, sofas and clothing smell like when you get back?)
>
> > You sure you don't want to lend us some of those tools while you're gone?
>
> > J.
>
> > Never Enough Money wrote:
> > > I'm taking a foreign assignment for 2 to 3 years. The company is
> > > paying to store my household thing (which include my garage
> > > woodworking shop). Any advice on how to pack/store my valuable Lie-
> > > Nileson and Veritas tools, all my hand power tools (routers, jig saws,
> > > etc). How about my table saw, band saw, drill press, etc.
>
> > > I suppose the movers will five me some advice when they come to scope
> > > out everything.
>
> > > It's going to be tough not woodworking for 2 or 3 years but, hey, this
> > > assignment is a chance of a lifetime.
>
> > > No, selling is not an option.
> > > No, letting you keep it while I'm gone is not an option.
>
> > > TIA.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
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Hi Everyone,
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I was reading about it on 'http://www.medical-health-care-
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walking or any of dozens of other activities can help your heart.
Whether it's included in a structured exercise program or just part of
your daily routine, all physical activity adds up to a healthier
heart.'.
I thought I would share this info with you. Maybe you would want to
read about it there. Regards, Sherrybove.

HN

"HotRdd"

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

26/02/2007 10:41 AM

Humidity will kill a lot of your tools. Look for climate controlled storage.
Also all of your cordless tool batteries will be shot when your return.
Don't even think about being able to recharge them. Sell them now and get
what you can for them.




"Never Enough Money" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm taking a foreign assignment for 2 to 3 years. The company is
> paying to store my household thing (which include my garage
> woodworking shop). Any advice on how to pack/store my valuable Lie-
> Nileson and Veritas tools, all my hand power tools (routers, jig saws,
> etc). How about my table saw, band saw, drill press, etc.
>
> I suppose the movers will five me some advice when they come to scope
> out everything.
>
> It's going to be tough not woodworking for 2 or 3 years but, hey, this
> assignment is a chance of a lifetime.
>
> No, selling is not an option.
> No, letting you keep it while I'm gone is not an option.
>
> TIA.
>

Bi

Bill in Detroit

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

26/02/2007 11:46 PM

J T wrote:

> Unless you're a museum, with their storage resources, they'll be a
> total loss. Instead I highly recomend a donation to an non-profit
> organication, in particular Joint Occupational Arts & Trades. I hold
> this organization in very high esteem, and the tools will be deeply
> appreciated, and lovingly used and maintained. Have a good trip..
>
>
>
> JOAT
> When in doubt, go to sleep.
> - Mully Small

JOAT, I went Googling for "Joint Occupational Arts & Trades" and came up
empty handed. Got a link or other info?

Bill


--
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is worth a **** unless backed up with enough genuine information to make
him really know what he's talking about.

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Bill in Detroit

in reply to Bill in Detroit on 26/02/2007 11:46 PM

01/03/2007 12:42 AM

J T wrote:
> Mon, Feb 26, 2007, 11:46pm [email protected] (Bill in Detroit) doth
> proclaim:
> JOAT, I went Googling for "Joint Occupational Arts & Trades" and came up
> empty handed. Got a link or other info?
>
> Really? Couldn't find it? You were definiely doing something
> wrong - don't use quotes. Here's a link that might help.
> http://www.acronymfinder.com
>
>
>
> JOAT
> When in doubt, go to sleep.
> - Mully Small
>
>

If you had yanked my leg any harder, I'd have sent you a bill for the
prosthetic & therapy! ;-)

Bill


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in reply to Bill in Detroit on 01/03/2007 12:42 AM

01/03/2007 2:21 PM

Thu, Mar 1, 2007, 12:42am [email protected] (Bill=A0in=A0Detroit) who was
apparently slowed down by the cold weather up there: does sayeth
If you had yanked my leg any harder, I'd have sent you a bill for the
prosthetic & therapy! ;-)

LMAO



JOAT
When in doubt, go to sleep.
- Mully Small

JJ

in reply to Bill in Detroit on 26/02/2007 11:46 PM

27/02/2007 9:21 PM

Mon, Feb 26, 2007, 11:46pm [email protected] (Bill=A0in=A0Detroit) doth
proclaim:
JOAT, I went Googling for "Joint Occupational Arts & Trades" and came up
empty handed. Got a link or other info?

Really? Couldn't find it? You were definiely doing something
wrong - don't use quotes. Here's a link that might help.
http://www.acronymfinder.com



JOAT
When in doubt, go to sleep.
- Mully Small

AR

"Allen Roy"

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

26/02/2007 8:26 PM

Most won't survive the storage. Motors on any bench or floor tools will have
problems. Any batteries for cordless tools will be long gone. And the worst
thing is, the movers when they put it in the storage locker, won't give a
damn about what comes in contact with the tables. (Been there, did it to
people.) You are probably asking for a big headache keeping most.
If it were me I would keep the tools that are either:
Discontinued and have very good value (except power tools)
Were a sentimental gift (ie; first Christmas gift from SWMBO (or child),
first real hand tool, etc.)

Otherwise sell them and put the proceeds in an investment account. At least
with the interest you can add to buying some new ones when you get back.
Also ask your company if instead of the storage fees if they will contribute
half of the value to an account to recover the cost of replacements. You get
the right accountant in your company and he will be more than happy to
listen. Though this might take some work on your part in finding out how
much it would cost to store just your tools alone.

And as far as the wood goes, I think you need to post your address and we
all will come over to help you load it in our vehicles.

Allen
"Never Enough Money" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm taking a foreign assignment for 2 to 3 years. The company is
> paying to store my household thing (which include my garage
> woodworking shop). Any advice on how to pack/store my valuable Lie-
> Nileson and Veritas tools, all my hand power tools (routers, jig saws,
> etc). How about my table saw, band saw, drill press, etc.
>
> I suppose the movers will five me some advice when they come to scope
> out everything.
>
> It's going to be tough not woodworking for 2 or 3 years but, hey, this
> assignment is a chance of a lifetime.
>
> No, selling is not an option.
> No, letting you keep it while I'm gone is not an option.
>
> TIA.
>

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

25/02/2007 9:30 PM


"Patriarch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Life changes in two to three years. If you're still interested, buy
> new, bigger & better. But the cost of the storage, even if someone else
> is paying it, is more than the value of the tools. BTDT.

I have to agree with this 110%. When I moved from a house into an apartment,
I put all my tools into storage. At $100 per month rental costs, five years
later, I realized that I'd spent $5000 on storage costs and still had no
idea when I'd be putting them to use. At that point I sold most of them off
including my contractor's table saw to a close friend for a really low
price.

I get to go over to my friend's place to use the table saw on occasion, I'm
spending $100 less per month and I don't have the worry and hassle of going
over to the rental place on occasion just to confirm that some miscreant
hasn't broken into the room and ripped me off.

If and when I do get a place to work again, I'll be perfectly happy to spend
money on a new cabinet table saw and enjoy the process of building up a
workshop again. My father ingrained into me that 'you just don't ever sell
your tools', but times change and there comes a point where it just doesn't
make any sense not to change with them.

Ll

Leuf

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

25/02/2007 4:24 PM

On 25 Feb 2007 12:05:14 -0800, "Never Enough Money"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Feb 25, 1:03 pm, "Never Enough Money" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> I'm taking a foreign assignment for 2 to 3 years. The company is
>> paying to store my household thing (which include my garage
>> woodworking shop). Any advice on how to pack/store my valuable Lie-
>> Nileson and Veritas tools, all my hand power tools (routers, jig saws,
>> etc). How about my table saw, band saw, drill press, etc.
>>
>> I suppose the movers will five me some advice when they come to scope
>> out everything.
>>
>> It's going to be tough not woodworking for 2 or 3 years but, hey, this
>> assignment is a chance of a lifetime.
>>
>> No, selling is not an option.
>> No, letting you keep it while I'm gone is not an option.

Or bring some of them with you. With just a few nice hand tools you
could still do some work, and after 3 years you might get half decent
with em ;)

You could shoot an email to l-n and lv to see if they have anything to
say. After all they have to store the stuff before it gets sold, so
they would know.

>Plus, I have a lot of wood, some of it valuable. I'm sure movers
>aren't going to sticker it.

Well if you sticker it and put straps around into reasonable sized
groups I imagine it'll stay that way.


-Leuf

ee

"efgh"

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

26/02/2007 12:54 PM


"Patriarch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> If and when I do get a place to work again, I'll be perfectly happy to
>> spend money on a new cabinet table saw and enjoy the process of
>> building up a workshop again. My father ingrained into me that 'you
>> just don't ever sell your tools', but times change and there comes a
>> point where it just doesn't make any sense not to change with them.
>>
>
> If these tools were for earning a living, then maybe that makes sense, not
> to sell. But I've got stuff from hobbies 20 years back, things I can't do
> any more, for a bunch of reasons. That makes no sense. Neither does the
> collection of band instruments hiding in a closet, since the last son
> graduated from high school 10 years back. I really don't care that, in
> five to ten years, a grandchild might play trombone and need an
> instrument.
>
> We drag stuff around. A more educated psychologist probably knows what
> all
> this is called. I don't care. There are not sufficient closets or attics
> or basements for all this stuff.
>
> Sell or give away what you won't or cannot use. Someone will love you for
> it.
>
> Patriarch

Could you have a chat with my wife please? :)

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

25/02/2007 7:43 PM

"Never Enough Money" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I'm taking a foreign assignment for 2 to 3 years. The company is
> paying to store my household thing (which include my garage
> woodworking shop). Any advice on how to pack/store my valuable Lie-
> Nileson and Veritas tools, all my hand power tools (routers, jig saws,
> etc). How about my table saw, band saw, drill press, etc.
>
> I suppose the movers will five me some advice when they come to scope
> out everything.
>
> It's going to be tough not woodworking for 2 or 3 years but, hey, this
> assignment is a chance of a lifetime.
>
> No, selling is not an option.
> No, letting you keep it while I'm gone is not an option.
>
> TIA.
>

So, you're going to Scandinavia, huh? Should be a lot of fun. Better
than trying to start up a wooddorker's store, for certain.

I'm going to offer another idea for your tools. Sell them off, at least
the stationary power tools and wood supplies. Hang on to your LN and
Veritas where you're going to be, but let the table saws, etc. go to
someone who will use them, and keep them up. Buy new when you get back.

Life changes in two to three years. If you're still interested, buy
new, bigger & better. But the cost of the storage, even if someone else
is paying it, is more than the value of the tools. BTDT.

And look for some of the really nice Euro hand tools while you're there.
Glad you sorted this all out.

Patriarch,
formerly an employee of the Finns...

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

25/02/2007 8:58 PM

"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> If and when I do get a place to work again, I'll be perfectly happy to
> spend money on a new cabinet table saw and enjoy the process of
> building up a workshop again. My father ingrained into me that 'you
> just don't ever sell your tools', but times change and there comes a
> point where it just doesn't make any sense not to change with them.
>

If these tools were for earning a living, then maybe that makes sense, not
to sell. But I've got stuff from hobbies 20 years back, things I can't do
any more, for a bunch of reasons. That makes no sense. Neither does the
collection of band instruments hiding in a closet, since the last son
graduated from high school 10 years back. I really don't care that, in
five to ten years, a grandchild might play trombone and need an instrument.

We drag stuff around. A more educated psychologist probably knows what all
this is called. I don't care. There are not sufficient closets or attics
or basements for all this stuff.

Sell or give away what you won't or cannot use. Someone will love you for
it.

Patriarch

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

25/02/2007 5:04 PM

On 25 Feb 2007 12:03:55 -0800, "Never Enough Money"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Any advice on how to pack/store my valuable Lie-
>Nileson and Veritas tools, all my hand power tools (routers, jig saws,
>etc). How about my table saw, band saw, drill press, etc.

Fog all the metal tops and hand tools with Boeshield, don't wipe it
off. Pack the smaller hand power tools in dry boxes, silica gel might
be worthwhile to include in each box.

Why not take a few hand tools any make some small projects while
you're gone? Ideas:

- A mini lathe can work on a table top in an apartment to turn pens.
- You could neander small boxes (with hand cut joinery) after building
a tabletop mini-bench to hold the work.
- You could learn to carve.

A good plan might be to pack and label some smaller boxes with hand
and sharpening tools (by functional group) and store them with a
relative, with the possibility of shipping some to you.

FB

Frank Boettcher

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

26/02/2007 10:05 AM

On 25 Feb 2007 12:03:55 -0800, "Never Enough Money"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm taking a foreign assignment for 2 to 3 years. The company is
>paying to store my household thing (which include my garage
>woodworking shop). Any advice on how to pack/store my valuable Lie-
>Nileson and Veritas tools, all my hand power tools (routers, jig saws,
>etc). How about my table saw, band saw, drill press, etc.
>
>I suppose the movers will five me some advice when they come to scope
>out everything.
>
>It's going to be tough not woodworking for 2 or 3 years but, hey, this
>assignment is a chance of a lifetime.
>
>No, selling is not an option.
>No, letting you keep it while I'm gone is not an option.
>
>TIA.


Don't let them stack anything wooden on top of your cast iron tables,
even with a corrugated layer in between. Will permanently stain your
tables.

Best for table tops is vapor paper (most corrosion protection, least
mess), however don't know where you can get it in samll quantities.

Frank

Ji

"Joe"

in reply to "Never Enough Money" on 25/02/2007 12:03 PM

26/02/2007 5:42 PM


> The movers are going to treat your wood like it's scrap 2x4s. Or
> worse. DAMHIK.
>

I slipped my movers a benjamin and they treated my stock (and my entire
shop) like they were original Louis XIV's.

Joe


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