I like mine. Does everything I need. That's the trick, you know.
Decide what you need to do and then, buy the tool that does it.
Now, if I could just convince myself that I don't need to do more!
Gene
On Feb 25, 11:08 am, "Stoutman" <.@.> wrote:
> I found that FWW article #188. They gave the Rigid EB 4424 their "Best
> Overall" and their "Best Value" awards.
>
> It was the only model that converted into a belt sander.
>
> --
> Stoutmanwww.garagewoodworks.com
>
> "Gary E" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> > Hey all
>
> > I am contemplating buying a spindle sander for some repetitive contour
> > sanding. Does anyone have recommendations on purchasing one in a price
> > range of less than $300? I am looking at the Grizzly, Delta and Ridgid.
>
> > Thanks for your suggestions
>
> > Gary- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
"Gary E" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hey all
>
> I am contemplating buying a spindle sander for some repetitive contour
> sanding. Does anyone have recommendations on purchasing one in a price
> range of less than $300? I am looking at the Grizzly, Delta and Ridgid.
>
> Thanks for your suggestions
>
> Gary
Traditionally I used a small drum on my RAS (okay), I tried a set that fits
on my drill press (lousy) but recently bought a Harbor Freight osculating
version.....cast table, nice fit and finish, runs smooth and quiet enough,
good dust collection (with a vac attached)assortment of sizes and does
exactly what I'd expect......mine between a coupon and sales price cost
around $70 regular price I'd expect is around $100...... No tilt but I'd
expect a home built slanted table would work......Rod
Stoutman wrote:
>
> "Gary E" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Hey all
>>
>> I am contemplating buying a spindle sander for some repetitive contour
>> sanding. Does anyone have recommendations on purchasing one in a price
>> range of less than $300? I am looking at the Grizzly, Delta and Ridgid.
>>
>> Thanks for your suggestions
>>
>> Gary
>
>
>
> Fine Woodworking recently had an article on these. Check out:
> http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworking/ToolGuide/ToolGuidePDF.aspx?id=27677
>
This is the second or third time I recall that someone has posted a link to a
FWW story that, when invoked, comes up with a short summary stating
"membership required" in order to read.
Doesn't do me any good - I'm not a member. Nor, I suspect, are many who read
this group.
In the future, I'd appreciate it if anyone posting such a link would at least
let us know we have to be members to read it.
--
It's turtles, all the way down
"C & S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have the Delta BOSS.
>
> I can't understand why they did not integrate a spindle lock for changing
> the drums.
Learn to use the wrenches. They give you twice the leverage with one hand.
Having used tools with spindle locks and those that require 2 wrenches, I
much prefer the 2 wrench tools.
>
> Whenever I use this tool I wonder "what were they thinking?"
Leverage
>
> No spindle lock means that it is not only tough to change drums but you
> can't torque down the drum and compress it so that the sleeve does not
> slip.
Use a wrench to hold the spindle or drum.
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:39:29 -0500, "Gary E"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Hey all
>
>I am contemplating buying a spindle sander for some repetitive contour
>sanding. Does anyone have recommendations on purchasing one in a price range
>of less than $300? I am looking at the Grizzly, Delta and Ridgid.
>
>Thanks for your suggestions
Fine Woodworking recently did a review. If you're interested, email
me direct and I'll give you specifics.
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:39:29 -0500, "Gary E"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Hey all
>
>I am contemplating buying a spindle sander for some repetitive contour
>sanding. Does anyone have recommendations on purchasing one in a price range
>of less than $300? I am looking at the Grizzly, Delta and Ridgid.
The Wilton is identical to the Grizzly G0538 except for color, but
qualifies for free shipping on amazon and for their discounts. I got
it for about $100 shipped but they've since raised the price to match
the G0538 and then raised the price on both. I have a pretty
extensive review of it on amazon.
I've only ever once wished it had a tilting table. I just cut a piece
of scrap at the appropriate angle and put the stock on that. It's
light enough to carry around easily, but heavy enough that it doesn't
move around.
However at the full price of $150 I think you're probably better off
going with the ridgid for another $50. A small oscillating belt would
be nice to have, and you just can't get that on any other machine
AFAIK without forking out for a huge edge sander. But if you can
catch one of amazon's deals and get it for $100-125 then it's a great
value.
-Leuf
"Gary E" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hey all
>
> I am contemplating buying a spindle sander for some repetitive contour
> sanding. Does anyone have recommendations on purchasing one in a price
> range of less than $300? I am looking at the Grizzly, Delta and Ridgid.
>
> Thanks for your suggestions
>
> Gary
Fine Woodworking recently had an article on these. Check out:
http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworking/ToolGuide/ToolGuidePDF.aspx?id=27677
--
Stoutman
www.garagewoodworks.com
I found that FWW article #188. They gave the Rigid EB 4424 their "Best
Overall" and their "Best Value" awards.
It was the only model that converted into a belt sander.
--
Stoutman
www.garagewoodworks.com
"Gary E" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hey all
>
> I am contemplating buying a spindle sander for some repetitive contour
> sanding. Does anyone have recommendations on purchasing one in a price
> range of less than $300? I am looking at the Grizzly, Delta and Ridgid.
>
> Thanks for your suggestions
>
> Gary
>
> This is the second or third time I recall that someone has posted a link
> to a
> FWW story that, when invoked, comes up with a short summary stating
> "membership required" in order to read.
The story is referenced by FWW #188 which is still on the shelves. If you
want to read the story go to your local Barnes and Noble. No membership
required there.
> Doesn't do me any good - I'm not a member. Nor, I suspect, are many who
> read
> this group.
Gary or anyone else interested, can either go to Barnes and Noble and read
the article or he can buy a membership if interested.
I also posted again with the results from the review article.
> In the future, I'd appreciate it if anyone posting such a link would at
> least
> let us know we have to be members to read it.
Larry, you have to be a member to read it online.
I have the Delta BOSS.
I can't understand why they did not integrate a spindle lock for changing
the drums.
Whenever I use this tool I wonder "what were they thinking?"
No spindle lock means that it is not only tough to change drums but you
can't torque down the drum and compress it so that the sleeve does not slip.
It's otherwise solid smooth and quiet. Sadly I can not reccomend it.
-Steve
"Bill Hall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I had the Delta B.O.S.S and really liked it. The only concern was in a
> little over a year only found the need for it twice . Sold it on Craig's
> list and reverted back to the drill press spindle sander attachment. Never
> looked back!
>
> Bill
>
> "Gary E" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hey all
> >
> > I am contemplating buying a spindle sander for some repetitive contour
> > sanding. Does anyone have recommendations on purchasing one in a price
> > range of less than $300? I am looking at the Grizzly, Delta and Ridgid.
> >
> > Thanks for your suggestions
> >
> > Gary
> >
>
>
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There is one wrench and no place to put a second one (that I have found) .
Part of my reason for posting is this hope that someone will say "You idiot,
you just need to stick the burfl in the whozzit".
-Steve
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> OOps, I am not real familiar with this sander. I don't know if you use 2
> wrenches to remove the spindles or not.
>
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:01:43 -0500, "Gary E"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I looked at the Wilton, and it seems identical to the Grizzly. And the price
>is no longer $100, but $149, identical to the Grizzly. Are these sanders
>manufactured by the same company and just rebranded? Where do you get
>supplies for your Wilton? Does it have a plastic table?
They've got to be made by the same company. i know wilton is part of
the same company as Jet. Same price as the griz, but qualifies for
free shipping which the griz doesn't. I think I got most of my
spindles from rockler, except for the 1/2" which I think I got from
grizzly. As others have noted, it's a standard size so you can shop
around. The only sizes I use are 1/2",1", and 2". I don't really see
the point in stocking the in between sizes. The spindles do last a
really long time.
The table is melamine, there is a plastic ring that the metal inserts
sit in. Once I got everything shimmed level it hasn't really been an
issue, and I don't see any wear on the table. I do once in a while
get a workpiece that is just the right size to get caught on the edge
of the ring. I will probably end up taking a couple pieces of 1/4"
baltic birch, laminate them and drill a 2" hole in one and a 1" in the
other and just have it drop over the whole table so it's a completely
smooth surface, but it hasn't been enough of an issue to get around to
it, and I do use it a lot.
>The other sander I am leaning towards is the Ridgid, because of the high
>marks by FWW, convertible belt sander, 3/4" miter slot. It does not take 3"
>drums, but I got the impression you had trouble with that size on your
>sander.
Yeah. When you tighten the nut down the washers make the rubber drum
expand a little at the top and bottom and that keeps the sleeve from
coming off. I just couldn't make that happen with the 3" drum. If I
used a ratchet instead of the little wrench maybe I could do it. For
the type of work I do it wasn't worth exploring, the 2" works for me.
If you anticipate using the 3" a lot i think you're better off with a
larger machine anyway. I didn't like the way Jet sells the 3" as an
expensive accessory.
-Leuf
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Leon" wrote in message
>> OOps, I am not real familiar with this sander. I don't know if you use
>> 2
>> wrenches to remove the spindles or not.
>
> On my older BOSS, you only need one wrench to change the spindles.
>
> There is absolutely NO need for a spindle lock on this tool as the tension
> on the spindle to attach it, as well as to expand it to keep the paper
> from
> slipping, is adjusted with the single wrench on top, and one hand holding
> the spindle, and not much torque is needed.
My sander cautions not to over tighten the spindle as the spin direction
tightens the spindle.
"Leuf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:01:43 -0500, "Gary E"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I looked at the Wilton, and it seems identical to the Grizzly. And the
>>price
>>is no longer $100, but $149, identical to the Grizzly. Are these sanders
>>manufactured by the same company and just rebranded? Where do you get
>>supplies for your Wilton? Does it have a plastic table?
>
> They've got to be made by the same company. i know wilton is part of
> the same company as Jet. Same price as the griz, but qualifies for
> free shipping which the griz doesn't. I think I got most of my
> spindles from rockler, except for the 1/2" which I think I got from
> grizzly. As others have noted, it's a standard size so you can shop
> around. The only sizes I use are 1/2",1", and 2". I don't really see
> the point in stocking the in between sizes. The spindles do last a
> really long time.
>
> The table is melamine, there is a plastic ring that the metal inserts
> sit in. Once I got everything shimmed level it hasn't really been an
> issue, and I don't see any wear on the table. I do once in a while
> get a workpiece that is just the right size to get caught on the edge
> of the ring. I will probably end up taking a couple pieces of 1/4"
> baltic birch, laminate them and drill a 2" hole in one and a 1" in the
> other and just have it drop over the whole table so it's a completely
> smooth surface, but it hasn't been enough of an issue to get around to
> it, and I do use it a lot.
>
>>The other sander I am leaning towards is the Ridgid, because of the high
>>marks by FWW, convertible belt sander, 3/4" miter slot. It does not take
>>3"
>>drums, but I got the impression you had trouble with that size on your
>>sander.
>
> Yeah. When you tighten the nut down the washers make the rubber drum
> expand a little at the top and bottom and that keeps the sleeve from
> coming off. I just couldn't make that happen with the 3" drum. If I
> used a ratchet instead of the little wrench maybe I could do it. For
> the type of work I do it wasn't worth exploring, the 2" works for me.
> If you anticipate using the 3" a lot i think you're better off with a
> larger machine anyway. I didn't like the way Jet sells the 3" as an
> expensive accessory.
>
>
>
> -Leuf
Thanks, you have been extremely helpful. If you are ever in Asheville, I'll
buy you a beer!
Gary
"Stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message
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> http://www.newwoodworker.com/reviews/rgideb4424rvu.html
>
> --
> Stoutman
> www.garagewoodworks.com
>
Thanks for the link, good review. Though I already have a belt sander, the
fact that this converts, really adds to it's function. The only negative I
saw on a review was that most of the housing was plastic. It looks like I
will be looking seriously at this sander.
Gary
On 2/25/07 11:39 AM, "Gary E" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am contemplating buying a spindle sander for some repetitive contour
> sanding. Does anyone have recommendations on purchasing one in a price range
> of less than $300? I am looking at the Grizzly, Delta and Ridgid.
I have the Ridgid oscillating belt/spindle sander and can give you my
impressions. I have no direct experience with the others so I cannot do a
comparative review.
The Ridgid tool is pretty easy to set up and works fine in my hobbyist
workshop. I use it primarily for edge sanding in the belt sander
configuration. It is quick to change belts or to switch to the spindle mode.
Dust collection is OK with my shop vac hooked up to the exhaust port. It
does a reasonable job for me, but is not a heavy duty tool.
It is reasonably sturdy is quite stable sitting on a workbench. The
construction is pretty solid. The tilting table is convenient when sanding
angled edges.
I recommend getting a tool with the oscillating motion rather than just a
straight rotating spindle (or belt). The oscillation gives smoother results,
closer to that of a random orbit sander, and also spreads out the wear on
the sanding belt/sleeve.
"Robert Haar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:C2073075.243AAB%[email protected]...
> On 2/25/07 11:39 AM, "Gary E" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I am contemplating buying a spindle sander for some repetitive contour
>> sanding. Does anyone have recommendations on purchasing one in a price
>> range
>> of less than $300? I am looking at the Grizzly, Delta and Ridgid.
>
> I have the Ridgid oscillating belt/spindle sander and can give you my
> impressions. I have no direct experience with the others so I cannot do a
> comparative review.
>
> The Ridgid tool is pretty easy to set up and works fine in my hobbyist
> workshop. I use it primarily for edge sanding in the belt sander
> configuration. It is quick to change belts or to switch to the spindle
> mode.
> Dust collection is OK with my shop vac hooked up to the exhaust port. It
> does a reasonable job for me, but is not a heavy duty tool.
>
> It is reasonably sturdy is quite stable sitting on a workbench. The
> construction is pretty solid. The tilting table is convenient when sanding
> angled edges.
>
> I recommend getting a tool with the oscillating motion rather than just a
> straight rotating spindle (or belt). The oscillation gives smoother
> results,
> closer to that of a random orbit sander, and also spreads out the wear on
> the sanding belt/sleeve.
>
Robert,
I went to Home Depot yesterday to look at the Ridgid. I must say I'm
disappointed that the only place to buy this is from Home Depot, and I also
did not see any supplies for the Ridgid there ( a complaint I had seen on a
review elsewhere) Where do you get you supplies for this sander?
Gary
"Leuf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:39:29 -0500, "Gary E"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Hey all
>>
>>I am contemplating buying a spindle sander for some repetitive contour
>>sanding. Does anyone have recommendations on purchasing one in a price
>>range
>>of less than $300? I am looking at the Grizzly, Delta and Ridgid.
>
> The Wilton is identical to the Grizzly G0538 except for color, but
> qualifies for free shipping on amazon and for their discounts. I got
> it for about $100 shipped but they've since raised the price to match
> the G0538 and then raised the price on both. I have a pretty
> extensive review of it on amazon.
>
> I've only ever once wished it had a tilting table. I just cut a piece
> of scrap at the appropriate angle and put the stock on that. It's
> light enough to carry around easily, but heavy enough that it doesn't
> move around.
>
> However at the full price of $150 I think you're probably better off
> going with the ridgid for another $50. A small oscillating belt would
> be nice to have, and you just can't get that on any other machine
> AFAIK without forking out for a huge edge sander. But if you can
> catch one of amazon's deals and get it for $100-125 then it's a great
> value.
>
>
> -Leuf
Leuf
I looked at the Wilton, and it seems identical to the Grizzly. And the price
is no longer $100, but $149, identical to the Grizzly. Are these sanders
manufactured by the same company and just rebranded? Where do you get
supplies for your Wilton? Does it have a plastic table?
The other sander I am leaning towards is the Ridgid, because of the high
marks by FWW, convertible belt sander, 3/4" miter slot. It does not take 3"
drums, but I got the impression you had trouble with that size on your
sander.
Thanks for your assistance.
Gary
"Leon" wrote in message
> OOps, I am not real familiar with this sander. I don't know if you use 2
> wrenches to remove the spindles or not.
On my older BOSS, you only need one wrench to change the spindles.
There is absolutely NO need for a spindle lock on this tool as the tension
on the spindle to attach it, as well as to expand it to keep the paper from
slipping, is adjusted with the single wrench on top, and one hand holding
the spindle, and not much torque is needed.
There must be something wrong with one that does, or else Delta has
"upgraded" the product, breaking it in the process ... a not unlikely
scenario considering their recent history.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 2/20/07
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Despite having to keep up with two wrenches, I've never understood the
> mania
> for spindle locks on routers either. It takes two hands to
> tighten/untighten
> spindle lock equipped routers, a task much easier and more quickly done
> with
> two wrenches in one hand.
I prefer spindle lock routers, especially my table-mounted DW 621.
-- Mark
"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> Despite having to keep up with two wrenches, I've never understood the
>> mania
>> for spindle locks on routers either. It takes two hands to
>> tighten/untighten
>> spindle lock equipped routers, a task much easier and more quickly done
>> with
>> two wrenches in one hand.
>
> I prefer spindle lock routers, especially my table-mounted DW 621.
That is a situation that warrants a spindle lock. When the router is fixed
under a table top and you have to use the wrenches below the table. Loose
on top of a table, spindle locks require too much grabbing, holding, and
working against the hand with the wrench.
I have a Triton router with spindle lock and do above the table bit changes.
I would prefer above the table with 2 wrenches. I still have to brace my
self when working with 1 wrench. With 2 wrenches I just squeeze my hand
closed.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> With regard to 3 inch drums, the diameter of the big end of the belt
>> transport is 3 inches if you really need that radius available for
>> anything.
>>
>
> The larger the spindle, the faster it will sand and is less likely to
> gouge.
> I find that I use the 3" drum more than all others combined by a ratio of
> probably of 5 to 1.
> I was not sure about the larger 3" spindle when buying my sander, it's was
> an optional accessory, but I am very glad I got it. It comes in handy
> when doing jobs other than sanding inside radiuses.
Makes a serviceable thickness sander for up to 4" stock, too. The big drum's
handy then.
Hey all
Just wanted to give you an update for all of you who helped me.
I purchased the Ridgid from Home Depot. Setup was very simple and easy, did
most of it without the manual, but did refer to it to double check my work.
Very intuitive. It is very quiet and easy to use, I was pleasantly
surprised.
I started by attached the 2" drum sander and used that last night. It worked
well, but the supplied drum sandpaper was a little finer grit than I needed
to start. I was cleaning up some 2"+ white oak, and I could bog it down if I
tried, but overall very pleasing.
Just now, I attached the belt sander and tried that. I had not realized that
the belt sander would oscillate as well, another pleasant surprise. (I guess
I thought there would be some override when that attachment was used). With
the Belt sander, and the contours on each end, I was easily able to finish
the piece of oak I was working on, and the interchange was a snap. I think I
am in love.
I need to get a vacuum attachment made, but that is minor. I have my fingers
crossed that it will hold up under use, because it is going to be one of my
favorite tools.
Thanks again, everyone
Gary
"Gary E" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hey all
>
> I am contemplating buying a spindle sander for some repetitive contour
> sanding. Does anyone have recommendations on purchasing one in a price
> range of less than $300? I am looking at the Grizzly, Delta and Ridgid.
>
> Thanks for your suggestions
>
> Gary
>
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> With regard to 3 inch drums, the diameter of the big end of the belt
> transport is 3 inches if you really need that radius available for
> anything.
>
The larger the spindle, the faster it will sand and is less likely to gouge.
I find that I use the 3" drum more than all others combined by a ratio of
probably of 5 to 1.
I was not sure about the larger 3" spindle when buying my sander, it's was
an optional accessory, but I am very glad I got it. It comes in handy when
doing jobs other than sanding inside radiuses.
"Leon" wrote in message
>
> "Mark Jerde" wrote in message
> > I prefer spindle lock routers, especially my table-mounted DW 621.
>
> That is a situation that warrants a spindle lock. When the router is
fixed
> under a table top and you have to use the wrenches below the table.
My penance for failure to bite into the "router lift" $yndrome with my 7518
is to use two wrenches on top of the table for bit changes, and a pair of
water pump pliers to get the damn nut loosened on the motor sleeve after it
gets hot ... which it indeed does.
I can live with all that better than I can with that #$(%U#POS spindle lock
on my Bosch Colt. ;)
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Last update: 2/20/07
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:39:29 -0500, "Gary E"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I am contemplating buying a spindle sander for some repetitive contour
>sanding.
Read a very old FWW article (reprinted in their "Making Machines" book)
on how turn the head of a cheap drillpress upside down, drive the quill
feed shaft with a slow motor and crank and make your own.
Having recently skip-dived such a drill, I'm working on my own right
now. It's a lot better than spending $400 !
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:01:43 -0500, "Gary E"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Leuf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:39:29 -0500, "Gary E"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Hey all
>>>
>>>I am contemplating buying a spindle sander for some repetitive contour
>>>sanding. Does anyone have recommendations on purchasing one in a price
>>>range
>>>of less than $300? I am looking at the Grizzly, Delta and Ridgid.
>>
>> The Wilton is identical to the Grizzly G0538 except for color, but
>> qualifies for free shipping on amazon and for their discounts. I got
>> it for about $100 shipped but they've since raised the price to match
>> the G0538 and then raised the price on both. I have a pretty
>> extensive review of it on amazon.
>>
>> I've only ever once wished it had a tilting table. I just cut a piece
>> of scrap at the appropriate angle and put the stock on that. It's
>> light enough to carry around easily, but heavy enough that it doesn't
>> move around.
>>
>> However at the full price of $150 I think you're probably better off
>> going with the ridgid for another $50. A small oscillating belt would
>> be nice to have, and you just can't get that on any other machine
>> AFAIK without forking out for a huge edge sander. But if you can
>> catch one of amazon's deals and get it for $100-125 then it's a great
>> value.
>>
>>
>> -Leuf
>
>Leuf
>
>I looked at the Wilton, and it seems identical to the Grizzly. And the price
>is no longer $100, but $149, identical to the Grizzly. Are these sanders
>manufactured by the same company and just rebranded? Where do you get
>supplies for your Wilton? Does it have a plastic table?
>
>The other sander I am leaning towards is the Ridgid, because of the high
>marks by FWW, convertible belt sander, 3/4" miter slot. It does not take 3"
>drums, but I got the impression you had trouble with that size on your
>sander.
With regard to 3 inch drums, the diameter of the big end of the belt
transport is 3 inches if you really need that radius available for
anything.
I had the Delta B.O.S.S and really liked it. The only concern was in a
little over a year only found the need for it twice . Sold it on Craig's
list and reverted back to the drill press spindle sander attachment. Never
looked back!
Bill
"Gary E" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hey all
>
> I am contemplating buying a spindle sander for some repetitive contour
> sanding. Does anyone have recommendations on purchasing one in a price
> range of less than $300? I am looking at the Grizzly, Delta and Ridgid.
>
> Thanks for your suggestions
>
> Gary
>
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Gary E" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Hey all
>>
>> I am contemplating buying a spindle sander for some repetitive contour
>> sanding. Does anyone have recommendations on purchasing one in a price
>> range of less than $300? I am looking at the Grizzly, Delta and Ridgid.
>>
>> Thanks for your suggestions.
>
> Oscillating is a very favororable feature as the paper lasts longer and
> you get a surface with fewer sanding marks. IMHO you do not want to cut
> corners here.
Agreed, I defeintely want a spindle sander which oscillates.
> Heavy helps keep the unit in place and a tilt table is helpful. In my
> shop the larger 3" diameter spindle is the one that gets the most use. I
> have the Jet Mid-Bench top model and am happy it although it is probably a
> bit out of your price range. Mine is too tall for a bench top and too
> short for the floor. It sets on a surface that is about 20" off the floor
> and its table top is about 36" off the floor.
> One with an induction motor makes it quiet and a pleasure to use with out
> hearing protection.
Good advice
> You may find as I have that this tool can do multiple tasks that pop up
> that you normally would have used another tool for.
> Also very handy to have is a 12" disc sander. Great for mitering short
> pieces of wood safely.
> A bit on the high side of your budget but a very handy combination would
> be
> http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0529
>
> Of the brands listed, this one looks like the Jet that I have except the
> Grizzly comes with the sand. I would go with this one over the Delta or
> the Ridgid.
> http://www.grizzly.com/products/G9922
>
Thanks for the advice, all good info.
Gary
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> I don't know of any spindle sanders that of themselves require hearing
> protection--the shop vac on the other hand . . .
The Ridgid and the PC #121 use a universal motor.
Noisier than an induction motor sander.
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:59:46 -0500, "Gary E"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Gary E" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Hey all
>>>
>>> I am contemplating buying a spindle sander for some repetitive contour
>>> sanding. Does anyone have recommendations on purchasing one in a price
>>> range of less than $300? I am looking at the Grizzly, Delta and Ridgid.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your suggestions.
>>
>> Oscillating is a very favororable feature as the paper lasts longer and
>> you get a surface with fewer sanding marks. IMHO you do not want to cut
>> corners here.
>
>Agreed, I defeintely want a spindle sander which oscillates.
>
>> Heavy helps keep the unit in place and a tilt table is helpful. In my
>> shop the larger 3" diameter spindle is the one that gets the most use. I
>> have the Jet Mid-Bench top model and am happy it although it is probably a
>> bit out of your price range. Mine is too tall for a bench top and too
>> short for the floor. It sets on a surface that is about 20" off the floor
>> and its table top is about 36" off the floor.
>> One with an induction motor makes it quiet and a pleasure to use with out
>> hearing protection.
>
>Good advice
I don't know of any spindle sanders that of themselves require hearing
protection--the shop vac on the other hand . . .
>
>> You may find as I have that this tool can do multiple tasks that pop up
>> that you normally would have used another tool for.
>> Also very handy to have is a 12" disc sander. Great for mitering short
>> pieces of wood safely.
>> A bit on the high side of your budget but a very handy combination would
>> be
>> http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0529
>>
>> Of the brands listed, this one looks like the Jet that I have except the
>> Grizzly comes with the sand. I would go with this one over the Delta or
>> the Ridgid.
>> http://www.grizzly.com/products/G9922
>>
>
>Thanks for the advice, all good info.
Most folks with the Ridgid seem to find that the belt is more
generally useful than the spindles.
>
>Gary
>
"Leon" wrote in message news:
> "C & S" wrote in message
>
> >I have the Delta BOSS.
> >
> > I can't understand why they did not integrate a spindle lock for
changing
> > the drums.
>
> Learn to use the wrenches. They give you twice the leverage with one
hand.
> Having used tools with spindle locks and those that require 2 wrenches, I
> much prefer the 2 wrench tools.
Despite having to keep up with two wrenches, I've never understood the mania
for spindle locks on routers either. It takes two hands to tighten/untighten
spindle lock equipped routers, a task much easier and more quickly done with
two wrenches in one hand.
Considering the number of folks who haven't figured that out, a "how to"
should probably be in the product manual.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 2/20/07
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Oscillating is a very favororable feature as the paper lasts longer and
> you get a surface with fewer sanding marks. IMHO you do not want to cut
> corners here. Heavy helps keep the unit in place and a tilt table is
> helpful. In my shop the larger 3" diameter spindle is the one that gets
> the most use. I have the Jet Mid-Bench top model and am happy it although
> it is probably a bit out of your price range.
My variety as well. Neat mod I made was to make an insert that will accept
PC guides. Makes pattern sanding a nice option with the smaller spindles.
Only thing I'd change is to get a bit higher rate of oscillation. Other
than that, great sander.
Belt types just never perform as well as a good plane, so that was not a
factor in my decision, but the newer types seem to be headed there.
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:34:38 -0500, "Stephen M"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>There is one wrench and no place to put a second one (that I have found) .
>
>Part of my reason for posting is this hope that someone will say "You idiot,
>you just need to stick the burfl in the whozzit".
On my Wilton there is a rectangular spot at the top of the shaft for
the second wrench. There's hardly enough to get the wrench on though
and I never do it that way. I just grab the drum with the other
hand. I can't get the 3" drum tight enough, but the rest are no
problem.
-Leuf
"Robert Haar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 2/25/07 11:39 AM, "Gary E" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I am contemplating buying a spindle sander for some repetitive contour
>> sanding. Does anyone have recommendations on purchasing one in a price
>> range
>> of less than $300? I am looking at the Grizzly, Delta and Ridgid.
>
> I have the Ridgid oscillating belt/spindle sander and can give you my
> impressions. I have no direct experience with the others so I cannot do a
> comparative review.
>
> The Ridgid tool is pretty easy to set up and works fine in my hobbyist
> workshop. I use it primarily for edge sanding in the belt sander
> configuration. It is quick to change belts or to switch to the spindle
> mode.
> Dust collection is OK with my shop vac hooked up to the exhaust port. It
> does a reasonable job for me, but is not a heavy duty tool.
>
> It is reasonably sturdy is quite stable sitting on a workbench. The
> construction is pretty solid. The tilting table is convenient when sanding
> angled edges.
>
> I recommend getting a tool with the oscillating motion rather than just a
> straight rotating spindle (or belt). The oscillation gives smoother
> results,
> closer to that of a random orbit sander, and also spreads out the wear on
> the sanding belt/sleeve.
>
I saw lots of plans to make homemade spindle sander, but I think the
oscillating part is too important to give up, besides I already have
attachments to have 2" diameter drum sander on my drill press.
Sturdiness is key, I believe plus what the maximum diameter of the drum it
will receive.
Thanks
Gary
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:57:26 -0500, "Gary E"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Robert Haar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:C2073075.243AAB%[email protected]...
>> On 2/25/07 11:39 AM, "Gary E" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I am contemplating buying a spindle sander for some repetitive contour
>>> sanding. Does anyone have recommendations on purchasing one in a price
>>> range
>>> of less than $300? I am looking at the Grizzly, Delta and Ridgid.
>>
>> I have the Ridgid oscillating belt/spindle sander and can give you my
>> impressions. I have no direct experience with the others so I cannot do a
>> comparative review.
>>
>> The Ridgid tool is pretty easy to set up and works fine in my hobbyist
>> workshop. I use it primarily for edge sanding in the belt sander
>> configuration. It is quick to change belts or to switch to the spindle
>> mode.
>> Dust collection is OK with my shop vac hooked up to the exhaust port. It
>> does a reasonable job for me, but is not a heavy duty tool.
>>
>> It is reasonably sturdy is quite stable sitting on a workbench. The
>> construction is pretty solid. The tilting table is convenient when sanding
>> angled edges.
>>
>> I recommend getting a tool with the oscillating motion rather than just a
>> straight rotating spindle (or belt). The oscillation gives smoother
>> results,
>> closer to that of a random orbit sander, and also spreads out the wear on
>> the sanding belt/sleeve.
>>
>
>Robert,
>
>I went to Home Depot yesterday to look at the Ridgid. I must say I'm
>disappointed that the only place to buy this is from Home Depot,
Ridgid is the Home Depot house brand for stationary power tools.
> and I also
>did not see any supplies for the Ridgid there ( a complaint I had seen on a
>review elsewhere) Where do you get you supplies for this sander?
The sleeves are a standard size--Ryobi, Delta, Grizzly, etc 4-1/2"
long sleeves all work fine. The belts are also standard 4x24 belts.
The Ryobi sleeves that Home Depot sells as a set are about as
inexpensive as you're going to get. The brands don't need to match
any more than drill bits have to be the same brand as drills.
If all else fails, Klingspor has both belts and sleeves.
"Gary E" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hey all
>
> I am contemplating buying a spindle sander for some repetitive contour
> sanding. Does anyone have recommendations on purchasing one in a price
> range of less than $300? I am looking at the Grizzly, Delta and Ridgid.
>
> Thanks for your suggestions.
Oscillating is a very favororable feature as the paper lasts longer and you
get a surface with fewer sanding marks. IMHO you do not want to cut corners
here. Heavy helps keep the unit in place and a tilt table is helpful. In
my shop the larger 3" diameter spindle is the one that gets the most use. I
have the Jet Mid-Bench top model and am happy it although it is probably a
bit out of your price range. Mine is too tall for a bench top and too
short for the floor. It sets on a surface that is about 20" off the floor
and its table top is about 36" off the floor.
One with an induction motor makes it quiet and a pleasure to use with out
hearing protection.
You may find as I have that this tool can do multiple tasks that pop up that
you normally would have used another tool for.
Also very handy to have is a 12" disc sander. Great for mitering short
pieces of wood safely.
A bit on the high side of your budget but a very handy combination would be
http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0529
Of the brands listed, this one looks like the Jet that I have except the
Grizzly comes with the sand. I would go with this one over the Delta or the
Ridgid.
http://www.grizzly.com/products/G9922