On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:02:45 -0500, Robert Galloway
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Thanks for the reply. A dining room table top is exactly the piece I
>spent a lot of time with with the belt sander through cabinet scraper
>routine and was interested in knowing whether a drum sander would save
>me some sweat on the next one which is just underway.
>
>bob g.
it'll likely be useful for everything up to the last center glue up.
at that point you're going to (probably) have a panel that is just a
bit too big and heavy to count on getting an even feed through the
machine. that is, if your table is say 30 by 75, glue up two panels 15
by 75, get them sanded, then joint the edges and glue them together.
you'll hve to sand and scrape that last joint by hand, most likely.
Apparently some of the original belts were/are defective. I called Jet when
after only a few days of use, the belt refused to track properly and then
began to tear.
No questions asked, they sent a new belt and I have used it quite a bit with
zero problems.
Dave.
PS The motor overload switch was defective as well. Same story. Very happy
with the tool.
"Sacramento Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have 16-32 performax drum sander. The conveyor belt tore. I noticed a
> small tear in the seam, lasted for quiet a while like that, then just blew
> apart. Any ideas what might of caused this? to much tension? I haven't
> used
> it that much would think you get a little more wear out of it.
>
>
Thanks for the reply. A dining room table top is exactly the piece I
spent a lot of time with with the belt sander through cabinet scraper
routine and was interested in knowing whether a drum sander would save
me some sweat on the next one which is just underway.
bob g.
[email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 19:18:09 -0500, Robert Galloway
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Thanks. I use resaw, thickness planer, etc. I'm just looking to put on
>>the finishing touches with a little less work than the belt sander.
>>Obviously, I don't try to take off a whole lot with the belt sander but
>>getting the thing perfectly flat and smooth sometimes takes a little
>>doing, regardless. I do work with a number of glueups that are wider
>>than the 16" capacity and I'm primarily worried that I'll be fighting
>>the two pass thing on a wider glue up. How hard is it to do? My 13
>>inch planer does great on it's designated width but it's not open sided
>>so I have no experience with trying to feed a piece reversed into an
>>open sided device and getting what I want.
>>
>>bob g.
>>
>
>
> for panels the sizes of typical cabinet door panels it works fine. I
> think you'd have problems trying to feed a dining room table top
> through it.
Been looking at this machine for a while. What's your take on it for
sanding freshly glued up panels? Worth while? I use a belt sander
going every which way and get results I'm satisfied with but with a lot
of time and back work. It sounds like an improvement. Is it?
bob g.
patriarch < wrote:
> "leonard" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>
>>Mine did the same thing just after I bought it. called performax up
>>and they sent me a new one. but they did not say why the first one
>>broke , just said they had heard about it before.
>>
>>Len
>>"Sacramento Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>I have 16-32 performax drum sander. The conveyor belt tore. I noticed
>>>a
>>>small tear in the seam, lasted for quiet a while like that, then just
>>>blew apart. Any ideas what might of caused this? to much tension? I
>>>haven't used
>>>it that much would think you get a little more wear out of it.
>>>
>
>
> I bought one in June, and a couple of days after I took it home, before I
> even opened the box, the store guys called. Evidently, the belts had been
> set too tightly at the factory. They had several from one shipment go bad,
> including one purchased by the store manager for personal use.
>
> The advice I got was to back off on the tension, and to set it so that 1
> finger or so went easily under the belt. If things slipped, tighten it in
> small increments. Now that advice is 90 days or so old, and well may have
> gone 'moldy' in my memory, so check with Performax tech support for better
> detailed instruction.
>
> One other piece of advice, from personal experience: There are better ways
> to remove a commercial poly or lacquer finish from salvage door parts, than
> to sand the finish off of them with this machine. Even at $3/bf, fresh
> wood is cheaper...
>
> Patriarch
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:18:10 GMT, "Sacramento Dave"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I have 16-32 performax drum sander. The conveyor belt tore. I noticed a
>small tear in the seam, lasted for quiet a while like that, then just blew
>apart. Any ideas what might of caused this? to much tension? I haven't used
>it that much would think you get a little more wear out of it.
>
I think performax sent a bunch of them out with defective feed belts.
mine did that- I called their tech support number and they sent me
another one. it's been fine.
Thanks. I use resaw, thickness planer, etc. I'm just looking to put on
the finishing touches with a little less work than the belt sander.
Obviously, I don't try to take off a whole lot with the belt sander but
getting the thing perfectly flat and smooth sometimes takes a little
doing, regardless. I do work with a number of glueups that are wider
than the 16" capacity and I'm primarily worried that I'll be fighting
the two pass thing on a wider glue up. How hard is it to do? My 13
inch planer does great on it's designated width but it's not open sided
so I have no experience with trying to feed a piece reversed into an
open sided device and getting what I want.
bob g.
[email protected] wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:29:55 -0500, Robert Galloway
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Been looking at this machine for a while. What's your take on it for
>>sanding freshly glued up panels?
>
>
> it works better if you let the glue dry....
>
> <G>
>
>
>>Worth while?
>
>
> yes.
>
>
>
>> I use a belt sander
>>going every which way and get results I'm satisfied with but with a lot
>>of time and back work. It sounds like an improvement. Is it?
>
>
> it's still slow. you'll want to get the boards close to thickness
> before glue up. resaw bandsaw, jointer and thickness planer are the
> ticket for that.
>
> the 16/32 leaves a very nice surface.
>
>
>
It's NOT a planer and is NOT useful for removing large
amounts of stock. It's a finishing sander more than anything
else.
Robert Galloway wrote:
> Been looking at this machine for a while. What's your take on it for
> sanding freshly glued up panels? Worth while? I use a belt sander
> going every which way and get results I'm satisfied with but with a lot
> of time and back work. It sounds like an improvement. Is it?
Mine did the same thing just after I bought it. called performax up and they
sent me a new one. but they did not say why the first one broke , just said
they had heard about it before.
Len
"Sacramento Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have 16-32 performax drum sander. The conveyor belt tore. I noticed a
> small tear in the seam, lasted for quiet a while like that, then just blew
> apart. Any ideas what might of caused this? to much tension? I haven't
> used
> it that much would think you get a little more wear out of it.
>
>
"leonard" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Mine did the same thing just after I bought it. called performax up
> and they sent me a new one. but they did not say why the first one
> broke , just said they had heard about it before.
>
> Len
> "Sacramento Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I have 16-32 performax drum sander. The conveyor belt tore. I noticed
>>a
>> small tear in the seam, lasted for quiet a while like that, then just
>> blew apart. Any ideas what might of caused this? to much tension? I
>> haven't used
>> it that much would think you get a little more wear out of it.
>>
I bought one in June, and a couple of days after I took it home, before I
even opened the box, the store guys called. Evidently, the belts had been
set too tightly at the factory. They had several from one shipment go bad,
including one purchased by the store manager for personal use.
The advice I got was to back off on the tension, and to set it so that 1
finger or so went easily under the belt. If things slipped, tighten it in
small increments. Now that advice is 90 days or so old, and well may have
gone 'moldy' in my memory, so check with Performax tech support for better
detailed instruction.
One other piece of advice, from personal experience: There are better ways
to remove a commercial poly or lacquer finish from salvage door parts, than
to sand the finish off of them with this machine. Even at $3/bf, fresh
wood is cheaper...
Patriarch
Robert Galloway <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Been looking at this machine for a while. What's your take on it for
> sanding freshly glued up panels? Worth while? I use a belt sander
> going every which way and get results I'm satisfied with but with a
> lot of time and back work. It sounds like an improvement. Is it?
Because I see the 16/32 used in the shops of some very talented, high end
furniture makers, I decided that it was good enough for my purposes. What
I mean by that is that these artists work on smaller volumes, and very
close tolerances. Shops that need the 48" sanders have the volume to cover
the acquisition, maintenance and space costs that come with them. Since I
do this for a hobby, the $800 or so was enough of a commitment to be a
challenge.
However, I know where a 48" machine resides, and I'm welcome there, when I
need it, or so I've been told. So far, it's not been required.
Patriarch,
who has purchased more tools than economics would tend to predict...
Robert Galloway <[email protected]> wrote in news:sv2dnc4xf4zG8eXcRVn-
[email protected]:
>
>
> OK, Patriarch, I played with your e-mail address in the more obvious
> ways, couldn't get around your ISP. Removed the DOT and put a (.).
> Removed the "nospam". Put the "nospam" back in. What's the drill here?
>
> bob g.
>
gmadsen at comcast dot net
Comcast doesn't have the Britemail spam filtering that AT&T did...
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:29:55 -0500, Robert Galloway
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Been looking at this machine for a while. What's your take on it for
>sanding freshly glued up panels?
it works better if you let the glue dry....
<G>
> Worth while?
yes.
> I use a belt sander
>going every which way and get results I'm satisfied with but with a lot
>of time and back work. It sounds like an improvement. Is it?
it's still slow. you'll want to get the boards close to thickness
before glue up. resaw bandsaw, jointer and thickness planer are the
ticket for that.
the 16/32 leaves a very nice surface.
>
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 19:18:09 -0500, Robert Galloway
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Thanks. I use resaw, thickness planer, etc. I'm just looking to put on
>the finishing touches with a little less work than the belt sander.
>Obviously, I don't try to take off a whole lot with the belt sander but
>getting the thing perfectly flat and smooth sometimes takes a little
>doing, regardless. I do work with a number of glueups that are wider
>than the 16" capacity and I'm primarily worried that I'll be fighting
>the two pass thing on a wider glue up. How hard is it to do? My 13
>inch planer does great on it's designated width but it's not open sided
>so I have no experience with trying to feed a piece reversed into an
>open sided device and getting what I want.
>
>bob g.
>
for panels the sizes of typical cabinet door panels it works fine. I
think you'd have problems trying to feed a dining room table top
through it.