I'm a reporter doing a story about rising wood prices and home
improvement. Can any of you comment for me on how this affects your
craft? I'm at [email protected]. Thx.
Robert Bonomi wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>Mortimer Schnerd, RN <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>MikeG wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>>[email protected] says...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm a reporter doing a story about rising wood prices and home
>>>>improvement. Can any of you comment for me on how this affects your
>>>>craft? I'm at [email protected]. Thx.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>It makes things more expensive to build.
>>>
>>>
>>Everyone's a comedian...
>>--
>>Mortimer Schnerd, RN
>>
>>
>
>Rumor mill has it that there might be a ventriloquist in the wood-pile, too.
>
>We've got Mortimer, _and_ Charlie. Edgar hasn't been seen for a while, though.
>
Candice is still around.
On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 17:42:56 -0500, RonB <[email protected]> wrote:
> HEY - He is a she and she is a reporter for the Wall Street Journal. I
> spoke with her. She is having difficulty finding the right group of people
> to discuss the effect building material prices is having on DIY home
> improvement as well as professional.
> She knows she is having some problems. This group is leaving impressions
> but not much help.
Maybe if she gave us more information what she's after, more of us would
"chip" in and spend effort helping her? I'm not going to drop 3 pages
on someone I only heard from once with a vague question.
Fri, Jul 23, 2004, 9:15am (EDT-3) [email protected]
(Avery=A0Johnson) who claims:
I'm a reporter doing a story about rising wood prices and home
improvement. Can any of you comment for me on how this affects your
craft? <snip>
Second thread you've started today. And, still no credentials
given.
JOAT
Every thing that happens stays happened.
- Death waxes philosophical
Excuse the hell out of me, but should I have refused to divulge my wood
souces?
You guys got me thinking I gave information to the enemy.
<gr>
Re: wood prices
Group: rec.woodworking Date: Fri, Jul 23, 2004, 4:30pm From:
[email protected] (J=A0T)
Fri, Jul 23, 2004, 9:15am (EDT-3) [email protected]
(Avery=A0Johnson) who claims:
I'm a reporter doing a story about rising wood prices and home
improvement. Can any of you comment for me on how this affects your
craft? <snip>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Second thread you've started today. And,
still no credentials given.
JOAT
Every thing that happens stays happened.
- Death waxes philosophical
In article <[email protected]>,
Mortimer Schnerd, RN <[email protected]> wrote:
>MikeG wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] says...
>>> I'm a reporter doing a story about rising wood prices and home
>>> improvement. Can any of you comment for me on how this affects your
>>> craft? I'm at [email protected]. Thx.
>>>
>>
>>
>> It makes things more expensive to build.
>
>
>Everyone's a comedian...
>--
>Mortimer Schnerd, RN
Rumor mill has it that there might be a ventriloquist in the wood-pile, too.
We've got Mortimer, _and_ Charlie. Edgar hasn't been seen for a while, though.
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 16:30:43 -0400, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
>Fri, Jul 23, 2004, 9:15am (EDT-3) [email protected]
>(Avery Johnson) who claims:
>I'm a reporter doing a story about rising wood prices and home
>improvement. Can any of you comment for me on how this affects your
>craft? <snip>
>
> Second thread you've started today. And, still no credentials
>given.
>
>
Did you notice his e-mail address?
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 20:56:16 +0100, Andy Dingley <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 21:10:39 GMT, igor <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>As someone who has been dealing with the press for decades (I just realized
>>how long it has been), I find meaning in an e-mail address that ends
>>wsj.com.
>
> Bollocks.
Anyone can _claim_ to have a wsj.com address, but if they're looking
for responses on-list, you'd never know it's forged. Not saying that
it's the case in this one (because I don't care enough to check)
but it's no different than printing up your own letterhead, and less
difficult.
On 24 Jul 2004 18:11:47 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:
>Igor responds:
>
>>>
>>> Second thread you've started today. And, still no credentials
>>>given.
>>>
>>>
>>Did you notice his e-mail address?
>
>An email address is not a credential.
>
>Charlie Self
Charlie --
As someone who has been dealing with the press for decades (I just realized
how long it has been), I find meaning in an e-mail address that ends
wsj.com. (And I say this as someone who has not always been treated well
by the Journal.) wsj.com IS a credential - even if not good enough for
you, by whatever standard, to inspire a reply to the OP's questions.
Indeed, someone might write chapter and verse about his/her supposed
"credential" as a reporter but then list a yahoo.com e-mail account. Which
should mean more: A wsj.com e-mail acc't alone or some explanation with a
yahoo account? (In the latter case, I call the editor - some supposed
stringers are legit.) Now, one might still want some add'l info - e.g.,
what beat the reporter is on - but that's simply more detail.
Webster online:
credential -
Function: noun
1 : something that gives a title to credit or confidence
2 plural : testimonials showing that a person is entitled to credit or
has a right to exercise official power
IMO, someone who has access to a wsj.com e-mail account has presented A
credential. YMMV. -- Igor
igor writes:
>As someone who has been dealing with the press for decades (I just realized
>how long it has been), I find meaning in an e-mail address that ends
>wsj.com. (And I say this as someone who has not always been treated well
>by the Journal.) wsj.com IS a credential - even if not good enough for
>you, by whatever standard, to inspire a reply to the OP's questions.
>Indeed, someone might write chapter and verse about his/her supposed
>"credential" as a reporter but then list a yahoo.com e-mail account. Which
>should mean more: A wsj.com e-mail acc't alone or some explanation with a
>yahoo account? (In the latter case, I call the editor - some supposed
>stringers are legit.) Now, one might still want some add'l info - e.g.,
>what beat the reporter is on - but that's simply more detail.
>
>Webster online:
> credential -
> Function: noun
> 1 : something that gives a title to credit or confidence
> 2 plural : testimonials showing that a person is entitled to credit or
> has a right to exercise official power
>
>IMO, someone who has access to a wsj.com e-mail account has presented A
>credential. YMMV
As a freelance writer for a few years--starting back around '68--I find that I
like more than an address with no title as a credential. For all you know, it's
the receptionist writing the request.
Charlie Self
"I think the most un-American thing you can say is, 'You can't say that.'"
Garrison Keillor
You get a LOT more resourceful if you really have a burning desire to
create something.
After being laid off from a fairly nice job
two years ago, I was forced to make serious alterations in the old
budget.
This is when I found out just how much money I'd been wasting, going to
the rip-off building material houses. I have found a lot of scrap
lumber that I sanded down to find beautiful grain and great seasoning.
I make guitars, and the wood at a lot of the lumberyards is too green
to make a quality instrument.
I have found much better lumber laying by the side of the road.
I have not yet resorted to dumpster diving, but I certainly don't rule
out THAT venue either!
On 24 Jul 2004 23:32:41 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:
>
>
>As a freelance writer for a few years--starting back around '68--I find that I
>like more than an address with no title as a credential. For all you know, it's
>the receptionist writing the request.
>
>
Exactly - that is YOUR standard, with which, FWIW, I have no dispute. If I
had had something worthwhile to offer OP/reporter, that would have been
enough for me, for starters. All I was saying is that there was A
credential proffered.
Didn't used to be, but the difference between whitehouse.com and
whitehouse.gov is pretty big.
"Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 28 Jul 2004 20:19:44 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Anyone can _claim_ to have a wsj.com address,
>
> http://www.preparingforemergencies.co.uk/
>
> http://www.preparingforemergencies.gov.uk/
>
>
> Can you tell which is the real site ?
In article <[email protected]>,
Andy Dingley <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 21:10:39 GMT, igor <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>As someone who has been dealing with the press for decades (I just realized
>>how long it has been), I find meaning in an e-mail address that ends
>>wsj.com.
>
>Bollocks.
>
You:
(a) aren't qualified to have an opinion as to what _Igor_ finds meaningful.
(b) have committed a criminal act, as well as a civil tort, by using their
domain name without permission.
On 28 Jul 2004 20:19:44 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>Anyone can _claim_ to have a wsj.com address,
http://www.preparingforemergencies.co.uk/
http://www.preparingforemergencies.gov.uk/
Can you tell which is the real site ?
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 22:13:43 +0100, Andy Dingley <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 28 Jul 2004 20:19:44 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Anyone can _claim_ to have a wsj.com address,
>
>http://www.preparingforemergencies.co.uk/
>
>http://www.preparingforemergencies.gov.uk/
>
>
>Can you tell which is the real site ?
Yes. And an addendum, from the un-real site:
"... if anyone actually mistakes this for the genuine Government web site,
then they probably have more problems than getting unhelpful advice."
NB: My replies generally assume knowledge relevant to the subject at hand
commensurate with its context. FWIW. -- Igor
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 22:13:43 +0100, Andy Dingley <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 28 Jul 2004 20:19:44 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Anyone can _claim_ to have a wsj.com address,
>
>http://www.preparingforemergencies.co.uk/
>
>http://www.preparingforemergencies.gov.uk/
>
>
>Can you tell which is the real site ?
Yes.
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 22:13:43 +0100, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:
>On 28 Jul 2004 20:19:44 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Anyone can _claim_ to have a wsj.com address,
>
>http://www.preparingforemergencies.co.uk/
I love the honesty and forthright discussion in this one.
It simply HAS to be the fake.
>http://www.preparingforemergencies.gov.uk/
>
>
>Can you tell which is the real site ?
Judging by the number of languages in which the booklets
are being printed, I see that you also pander to furriners
(who don't speak a word of English) in th UK. I think the
California voting pamphlet comes in 29 languages now.
Ahhh, America (and now the UK), melting pots of the world!
-------------------------------------------------
- Clinton never - * Wondrous Website Design
- EXhaled.- * http://www.diversify.com
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On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 21:10:39 GMT, igor <[email protected]> wrote:
>As someone who has been dealing with the press for decades (I just realized
>how long it has been), I find meaning in an e-mail address that ends
>wsj.com.
Bollocks.
On 28 Jul 2004 20:19:44 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 20:56:16 +0100, Andy Dingley <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 21:10:39 GMT, igor <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>As someone who has been dealing with the press for decades (I just realized
>>>how long it has been), I find meaning in an e-mail address that ends
>>>wsj.com.
>>
>> Bollocks.
>
>Anyone can _claim_ to have a wsj.com address, but if they're looking
>for responses on-list, you'd never know it's forged. Not saying that
>it's the case in this one (because I don't care enough to check)
>but it's no different than printing up your own letterhead, and less
>difficult.
>
True, but for some people no "evidence" is enough. Think OJ.
E-mail a reply to a provided address. Simple enough, bollocks or not.
On 23 Jul 2004 09:15:30 -0700, [email protected] (Avery Johnson)
wrote:
>I'm a reporter doing a story about rising wood prices and home
>improvement. Can any of you comment for me on how this affects your
>craft? I'm at [email protected]. Thx.
Recently, I have been getting a lot of free wood due to strong summer
storms and I've been turning wood rather than building cabinets.
Somehow many woodworkers find alternatives to high-priced woods, which
is actually a very good thing.
MikeG wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>> I'm a reporter doing a story about rising wood prices and home
>> improvement. Can any of you comment for me on how this affects your
>> craft? I'm at [email protected]. Thx.
>>
>
>
> It makes things more expensive to build.
LOL!!!
OK - Without any specific guidance I would offer that it impacts us more
than homebuilders:
1) Home builders recoup what they spend and price increases are flowed to
their customers. Relatively few of us have "customers" so costs come out of
our pockets.
2) While not directly related to wood costs, we do not have the advantages
of capitalization that homebuilders do. We buy our own tools and have to
pay for blade sharpening, maintenance, etc. without cost flowdown or tax
advantages.
3) Builders buy material, including the hardwoods many of us use, at
quantity discounts. Yes, some of us do buy at the lower end of the quantity
discount ranges but few of us can afford to have hundreds or thousands of
board-feet in stock. For this reason, some dedicated woodworkers band
together or join clubs that provide quantity buying opportunities. Others
saw their own wood and allow it to dry naturally - a time consuming process.
The average Wall Street Journal reader probably has very little appreciation
for the cost of finish or furniture grade hardwoods, let alone the exotic
woods that some of us use. For example, I have built some Oak and Walnut
rocking horses and occasionally someone asks what it would cost to build
one. When I explain that a horse has $140 worth of expense, some think I am
lying so I can charge a large price. Fact is the $140 is the cost of the
bill of materials + a 10% "wear and sharpening" cost that really isn't
adequate.
Ron Brogan
"Avery Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm a reporter doing a story about rising wood prices and home
> improvement. Can any of you comment for me on how this affects your
> craft? I'm at [email protected]. Thx.
HEY - He is a she and she is a reporter for the Wall Street Journal. I
spoke with her. She is having difficulty finding the right group of people
to discuss the effect building material prices is having on DIY home
improvement as well as professional.
She knows she is having some problems. This group is leaving impressions
but not much help.
"igor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 16:30:43 -0400, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
>
> >Fri, Jul 23, 2004, 9:15am (EDT-3) [email protected]
> >(Avery Johnson) who claims:
> >I'm a reporter doing a story about rising wood prices and home
> >improvement. Can any of you comment for me on how this affects your
> >craft? <snip>
> >
> > Second thread you've started today. And, still no credentials
> >given.
> >
> >
> Did you notice his e-mail address?
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> I'm a reporter doing a story about rising wood prices and home
> improvement. Can any of you comment for me on how this affects your
> craft? I'm at [email protected]. Thx.
>
It makes things more expensive to build.
--
MikeG
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
[email protected]
"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Second thread you've started today. And, still no credentials given.
I don't know his and he don't know mine.
The 'net: where everyone's an expert; all prospective single n' looking
males are 6'2", 210lbs, straight teeth; yadda-yadda-yadda
Robert Bonomi wrote:
>> Everyone's a comedian...
>> --
>> Mortimer Schnerd, RN
>
> Rumor mill has it that there might be a ventriloquist in the wood-pile, too.
>
> We've got Mortimer, _and_ Charlie. Edgar hasn't been seen for a while,
> though.
He cacked it long ago. Trust me.
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
[email protected]
http://www.mortimerschnerd.com
MikeG wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>> I'm a reporter doing a story about rising wood prices and home
>> improvement. Can any of you comment for me on how this affects your
>> craft? I'm at [email protected]. Thx.
>>
>
>
> It makes things more expensive to build.
Everyone's a comedian...
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
[email protected]
http://www.mortimerschnerd.com
"MikeG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> > I'm a reporter doing a story about rising wood prices and home
> > improvement. Can any of you comment for me on how this affects your
> > craft? I'm at [email protected]. Thx.
> >
>
>
> It makes things more expensive to build.
I think you'd better simplify it some more, Mike. He's only a reporter,
mind you.
todd