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Ed Clarke

29/03/2005 8:58 PM

Shaper runout

How do you measure spindle runout on a shaper? I tried putting a 30mm
spacer over the 3/4 spindle and measured 9 thousandths variation at the
top of the spindle with a dial indicator. The spacer is not totally
tight to the spindle ( nor can it be or you couldn't get it on or off ).
I suspect this measurement is meaningless due to slop.

The spindle itself is threaded so I can't measure that directly. Any
ideas on how to get an accurate measurement?

I'm checking runout because I'm getting significant vibration with a
very heavy cutter. I suppose the cutter could be out of balance also.
The cutter is a Leitz jointer - 3 inches in diameter and two inches
high with two blade inserts held by gibs.

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JB

Jim Behning

in reply to Ed Clarke on 29/03/2005 8:58 PM

30/03/2005 12:51 AM

We had a shaper that I think had a 1 inch shaft that was bent. It also
has wollered out bearing surface. It was sent of to the machine shop
to have the bearing surface built up and turned. I think the shaft
still was wobbly at the top so the new cutter was mounted lower. It
was much quieter when the cutter was not off center and the shaft was
not violently vibrating. We used this to round over 3/4" yellow pine
with a power feeder.

You might send the cutter off to the machine shop for a balance check.
You could also get them to turn some collars with .75" id and accurate
od to measure the shaft for runout.

Is the cutter holder round? Remove the blades and measure runout
there. Cutter holder has to fit snug to the shaft.

Ed Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:

>How do you measure spindle runout on a shaper? I tried putting a 30mm
>spacer over the 3/4 spindle and measured 9 thousandths variation at the
>top of the spindle with a dial indicator. The spacer is not totally
>tight to the spindle ( nor can it be or you couldn't get it on or off ).
>I suspect this measurement is meaningless due to slop.
>
>The spindle itself is threaded so I can't measure that directly. Any
>ideas on how to get an accurate measurement?
>
>I'm checking runout because I'm getting significant vibration with a
>very heavy cutter. I suppose the cutter could be out of balance also.
>The cutter is a Leitz jointer - 3 inches in diameter and two inches
>high with two blade inserts held by gibs.


Jim B.

Gg

"George"

in reply to Ed Clarke on 29/03/2005 8:58 PM

29/03/2005 4:32 PM


"Ed Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> How do you measure spindle runout on a shaper? I tried putting a 30mm
> spacer over the 3/4 spindle and measured 9 thousandths variation at the
> top of the spindle with a dial indicator. The spacer is not totally
> tight to the spindle ( nor can it be or you couldn't get it on or off ).
> I suspect this measurement is meaningless due to slop.
>
> The spindle itself is threaded so I can't measure that directly. Any
> ideas on how to get an accurate measurement?
>
> I'm checking runout because I'm getting significant vibration with a
> very heavy cutter. I suppose the cutter could be out of balance also.
> The cutter is a Leitz jointer - 3 inches in diameter and two inches
> high with two blade inserts held by gibs.
>

My shaper has flat threads, like a tablesaw arbor. I suppose something to
spread the load across threads, like a metal feeler between gage and
indicator might do. Either that, or something milled, like an adapter
bushing or bearing, something where it's designed to concentricity rather
than thickness, like a spacer. They fit pretty tight, because you have to
keep them properly aligned or wedge them on the spindle.

I'd start out by pulling the spindle, cleaning the taper, and reseating
before fiddling much, though.

DB

Duane Bozarth

in reply to Ed Clarke on 29/03/2005 8:58 PM

30/03/2005 8:33 AM

George wrote:
...
> My shaper has flat threads, ...

Just as a btw, fwiw I believe those are Acme threads...


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