On Mar 8, 1:44=A0pm, e <[email protected]> wrote:
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> 2497: valve handle. Fits a square spindle with a notch in a corner
> that the pin closer to the camera grabs to hold it on. If the wooden
> handle can rock on the metal centerpiece, then the handle is probably
> for a valve with a holding boss on it. In either full open or full
> closed, the wooden part drops behind the boss, probably with the help
> of a small spring, so that the valve can't vibrate out of full open or
> full closed position. I have seen the same construction (wood or metal
> handle on same centerpiece) on old railroad air brake stop cocks,
> usually on the triple valve connection to the train line pipe.
It *does* look a bit like something you'd use to beat a hobo...
On Mar 8, 4:03=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
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2497: valve handle. Fits a square spindle with a notch in a corner
that the pin closer to the camera grabs to hold it on. If the wooden
handle can rock on the metal centerpiece, then the handle is probably
for a valve with a holding boss on it. In either full open or full
closed, the wooden part drops behind the boss, probably with the help
of a small spring, so that the valve can't vibrate out of full open or
full closed position. I have seen the same construction (wood or metal
handle on same centerpiece) on old railroad air brake stop cocks,
usually on the triple valve connection to the train line pipe.
On Mar 8, 4:03=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
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Not sure the 1st one is anything in particular other than a handle
that clamps to a square shaft.
Dave
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2501 is for opening Bottles and Cans. The old style Bottle opener is just
before the Tail. Twist tops are handled by the "inner circle" by the bumps
and Pop tops are started by the first fin behind the Head.
Crazy Ed
> "Rob H." wrote:
> They were marked as ice fishing poles, I was thinking that the spikes were
> for chipping a hole in the ice, maybe they were used as both a spear and a
> chipper, hopefully someone will let us know for sure.
>
I'd guess any Ice the points would be useful getting through would be
way too thin to walk on. Rather I think the points are for standing the pole
up on the ice. Once a fish bites the pole would fall over across the hole
indicating a strike like the flags do these days.
Crazy Ed
I'll admit, I have totally no ideas, for any of them.
You did it -- totally stumped me.
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>> #2498 Pressure cooker?
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>> Bill
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> It's not a cooker, it's something a little more sinister than that.
>
is it used in a gas chamber?
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2502. Antique surveyor's alidade. For use on a plane table. A more
modern one.
http://planetableandalidade.com/IMG_0756.JPG
Karl
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> > Rob
> >2502. Antique surveyor's alidade. For use on a plane table. A more
> >modern one.
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> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://planetableandalidade.com/IMG_0756.JPG
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> >Karl
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> Alidade is correct.
Thanks for doing these. They're always interesting.
Karl
can't guarantee my answer is correct, but the resemblance is strong.
I've never seen a railroad valve with wooden handle, but the design is
very similar to some of the earlier ones, and I have seen wooden
handles cocks for non-rail service.
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> On Mar 8, 4:03 am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I need some help with the first item this week:
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> > Rob
>
> >2497: valve handle. Fits a square spindle with a notch in a corner
> >that the pin closer to the camera grabs to hold it on. If the wooden
> >handle can rock on the metal centerpiece, then the handle is probably
> >for a valve with a holding boss on it. In either full open or full
> >closed, the wooden part drops behind the boss, probably with the help
> >of a small spring, so that the valve can't vibrate out of full open or
> >full closed position. I have seen the same construction (wood or metal
> >handle on same centerpiece) on old railroad air brake stop cocks,
> >usually on the triple valve connection to the train line pipe.
>
>
> Sounds like a good answer for it but I haven't been able to find one like it
> on the web.
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> Looks like I might get one this week!
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> #2500 A clamp for holding the leather tip of a pool cue in place while
> glueing it on!
>
> Bill
Looks like a spring loaded cutter head on it. Maybe to square off the
end of a pool stick or something similar.
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#2498 Pressure cooker?
Bill
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Looks like I might get one this week!
#2500 A clamp for holding the leather tip of a pool cue in place while
glueing it on!
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> Rob
>2502. Antique surveyor's alidade. For use on a plane table. A more
>modern one.
http://planetableandalidade.com/IMG_0756.JPG
>Karl
Alidade is correct.
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>> "Rob H." wrote:
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>> I need some help with the first item this week:
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> 2501 is for opening Bottles and Cans. The old style Bottle opener is
> just
> before the Tail. Twist tops are handled by the "inner circle" by the bumps
> and Pop tops are started by the first fin behind the Head.
>
> Crazy Ed
>
Yes, it's made by the people that make Yeti coolers.
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> #2498 Pressure cooker?
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> Bill
It's not a cooker, it's something a little more sinister than that.
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> Rob
>2497: valve handle. Fits a square spindle with a notch in a corner
>that the pin closer to the camera grabs to hold it on. If the wooden
>handle can rock on the metal centerpiece, then the handle is probably
>for a valve with a holding boss on it. In either full open or full
>closed, the wooden part drops behind the boss, probably with the help
>of a small spring, so that the valve can't vibrate out of full open or
>full closed position. I have seen the same construction (wood or metal
>handle on same centerpiece) on old railroad air brake stop cocks,
>usually on the triple valve connection to the train line pipe.
Sounds like a good answer for it but I haven't been able to find one like it
on the web.
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> 2499 looks like it could be old Ice Fishing Ploes.
>
> Crazy Ed
That's it! If you look really close you can see some line that is wrapped
around the middle part of the upper one.
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>> 2499: Harpoon.
>> Dave
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> Fishing spear.
> Lloyd
They were marked as ice fishing poles, I was thinking that the spikes were
for chipping a hole in the ice, maybe they were used as both a spear and a
chipper, hopefully someone will let us know for sure.
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>>> 2499: Harpoon.
>>> Dave
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>> Fishing spear.
>> Lloyd
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>
> They were marked as ice fishing poles, I was thinking that the spikes
> were for chipping a hole in the ice, maybe they were used as both a
> spear and a chipper, hopefully someone will let us know for sure.
They may have been used to keep the ice from freezing acrossed an
existing hole, but I feel confident they were not to make the hole in
the first place--and I've been ice fishing less than a dozen times.
Once really ought to be enough for anybody! ; )
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>>> #2498 Pressure cooker?
>>>
>>> Bill
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>> It's not a cooker, it's something a little more sinister than that.
>
> If sinister, then it is a timed explosive charge, set off by the
> Sun near noon. (Or at least the housing for it, without the powder
> charge.)
Not exactly correct but you're close, there are explosives involved.
>>
>> #2500 A clamp for holding the leather tip of a pool cue in place while
>> glueing it on!
>>
>> Bill
> Looks like a spring loaded cutter head on it. Maybe to square off the end
> of a pool stick or something similar.
>
> --
> Gerald Ross
You're both correct, it's a clamp and a trimmer, we didn't have a tool like
this so instead would just use sandpaper to flatten the end of the cue.
No proof yet for the first item but the rest have all been identified this
week, the answers can be seen here:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/2012/03/set-431.html#answers
Rob
"> 2497) I first have to ask a question: Does the metal
> part pivot around the pin near the large end, and stick out the
> small end? If so, I would need to see what that small end
> looks like extended.
The metal piece doesn't come out, we removed the screw at the large end but
the metal part was still held by the smaller pin.
> However, if it does not (I think that there is a smaller pin to
> prevent that), I could see this being used as a wrench for
> square-headed screws such as are common on lathes. The metal
> can take the wear, the large rivet gives it strength to avoid
> spreading, and the wood makes a more comfortable handle than the
> forged metal wrenches for the purpose would have.
I have a close-up of it that I forgot to post, it can be seen here:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2014/pic2497b.jpg
The large image of it that was posted on the web site:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2014/pic2497a.jpg
Rob H. wrote:
> No proof yet for the first item but the rest have all been identified
> this week, the answers can be seen here:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2012/03/set-431.html#answers
>
>
> Rob
From Rob's answers:
2502. This tool is an Alidade,
a device that allows one to sight a distant object and use the line
of sight to perform a task. This task can be, for example, to draw a
line on a plane table in the direction of the object or to measure the
angle to the object from some reference point. Angles measured can be
horizontal, vertical or in any chosen plane. The alidade's primary use
is for creating maps in the horizontal plane.
I actually thought of that based upon the ends (which reminded me of the
2 pieces of rifle's sight), but I couldn't account for the 3 clips on
the base. Is there something extra there?
Bill
DoN. Nichols wrote:
> On 2012-03-10, Bill<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Rob H. wrote:
>>
>>> No proof yet for the first item but the rest have all been identified
>>> this week, the answers can be seen here:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2012/03/set-431.html#answers
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>>
>> From Rob's answers:
>>
>> 2502. This tool is an Alidade,
>> a device that allows one to sight a distant object and use the line
>> of sight to perform a task. This task can be, for example, to draw a
>> line on a plane table in the direction of the object or to measure the
>> angle to the object from some reference point. Angles measured can be
>> horizontal, vertical or in any chosen plane. The alidade's primary use
>> is for creating maps in the horizontal plane.
>>
>>
>> I actually thought of that based upon the ends (which reminded me of the
>> 2 pieces of rifle's sight), but I couldn't account for the 3 clips on
>> the base. Is there something extra there?
>
> Only one of them (the center one) is a clip, to keep it closed
> when not in use.
>
> The other two are link arms which pivot on the main base and the
> narrower part beside it, allowing it to move out from the side while
> retaining a state of being parallel to the main one. (The four parts
> form a parallelogram.)
>
> Enjoy,
> DoN.
DoN, I "see it" now. Thank you for explaining!
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"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
2497
Another guess, it reminds me of the lever used on recliners to move the
foot-rest up/down.
I tried searching on/for that idea, but couldn't come up with anything
solid. Some examples, like this newer patent shows that a square shaft
is sometimes used in the mechanism:
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=5282395
It appears to be old though, not sure when they started making
recliners that used a side-arm mechanism like in that patent...
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On 2012-03-08, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
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Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.
2497) I first have to ask a question: Does the metal
part pivot around the pin near the large end, and stick out the
small end? If so, I would need to see what that small end
looks like extended.
However, if it does not (I think that there is a smaller pin to
prevent that), I could see this being used as a wrench for
square-headed screws such as are common on lathes. The metal
can take the wear, the large rivet gives it strength to avoid
spreading, and the wood makes a more comfortable handle than the
forged metal wrenches for the purpose would have.
2498) It looks like the top piece is a Fresnel lens, so it could be
used to focus sunlight onto something held in the center of the
bowl. Perhaps to light a cigarette or a tobacco pipe's contents?
But the green glass would absorb a lot of the heat out of the
sunlight.
So a second option might be a disassembled high voltage
insulator?
Is that some form of tape on the elbow in the third photo?
And is that a loop of wire sticking through it, or a marking on
the tape?
2499) If the points were not so sharp and long, I might consider this to
be some form of shuttle for weaving. The yarn could be wound
around between the projecting horns on the first one, and
perhaps the second one had similar horns which were somewhat
broken off.
As it is -- perhaps for gigging fish? (But there should be a
barb on the pints for that.)
2500) This looks like a tool for forcing a cork into (or back into)
a wine bottle.
2501) Hmm ... the ridges in the center hole look as though they would
be good to grip a ribbed bottle cap of a certain size, and some
of the lips appear to be reasonable for lifting press-on caps
for something like a jam jar. Not too sure about anything else.
2502) A rule for use on a chart table -- to sight though it to a
landmark, and the upper edge of the rule (if unlocked in the
center) would turn it into a parallel rule, for drawing a line
parallel to another or to the sighting.
Anyway, for navigating or surveying.
Now to post and then see what others have suggested.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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On 2012-03-08, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> "Rob H."<[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>> I need some help with the first item this week:
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>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>
>> #2498 Pressure cooker?
>>
>> Bill
>
> It's not a cooker, it's something a little more sinister than that.
If sinister, then it is a timed explosive charge, set off by the
Sun near noon. (Or at least the housing for it, without the powder
charge.)
Enjoy,
DoN.
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On 2012-03-10, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> Rob H. wrote:
>
>> No proof yet for the first item but the rest have all been identified
>> this week, the answers can be seen here:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2012/03/set-431.html#answers
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
>
> From Rob's answers:
>
> 2502. This tool is an Alidade,
> a device that allows one to sight a distant object and use the line
> of sight to perform a task. This task can be, for example, to draw a
> line on a plane table in the direction of the object or to measure the
> angle to the object from some reference point. Angles measured can be
> horizontal, vertical or in any chosen plane. The alidade's primary use
> is for creating maps in the horizontal plane.
>
>
> I actually thought of that based upon the ends (which reminded me of the
> 2 pieces of rifle's sight), but I couldn't account for the 3 clips on
> the base. Is there something extra there?
Only one of them (the center one) is a clip, to keep it closed
when not in use.
The other two are link arms which pivot on the main base and the
narrower part beside it, allowing it to move out from the side while
retaining a state of being parallel to the main one. (The four parts
form a parallelogram.)
Enjoy,
DoN.
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