So, I'm making some roll around cabinets for the shop. About 33" high
with 5 drawers in them. I'm using 3/4 ply for the carcass with a 3/4
stock face frame for the front. The face frame is 1 1/2" wide. This
leaves 3/4" reveal behind it.
I'm using full extension slides and my friend says "hey you should
really get the Kreg drawer jigs to set this up, they are great:".
Never passing a reason to buy another tool, I get them. This is the
magnet thing to set the slides into the cabinet and the little shelf
things to put the slides onto the drawer.
Now, I have to bring the slides out the 3/4" to be flush with the face
frame so I'm using 1x2 pine behind each slide. This all works, but
what I don't get is when I look at the video of this guy demoing them,
he doesn't seem to have anything like my pine to raise out the slide.
http://youtu.be/vI3jgkhxxPE
Am I missing something here? I would like to save any steps I can as
I want to make a bunch of these. My two options here are to first
attach the pine to the inside of the cabinet and then use the Kreg
jig to attach the slide, or, attach the slide and the pine toghether
with the jig and use longer screws to attach it to the crarcass.
-Jim
On Mar 7, 11:57=A0am, Sonny <[email protected]> wrote:
> Stop the video at the 2:14 thru 2:16 time marks, by double clicking on
> the pause/resume prompt, and you can see the face frame/carcass edges
> head on.
>
> Sonny
On the left side top slide, mounted with the face frame in place, it
looks like he has a spacer behind the drawer slide on the inside of
the carcass.
Sonny
And if they weren't as John said, They could be using the adapters in
the back that allow you to attach to the back of the cabinet.
But it's probably like John said, I didn't view the video.
On 3/7/2012 11:59 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>
> "John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "jtpr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> Am I missing something here? I would like to save any steps I can as
>>> I want to make a bunch of these. My two options here are to first
>>> attach the pine to the inside of the cabinet and then use the Kreg
>>> jig to attach the slide, or, attach the slide and the pine toghether
>>> with the jig and use longer screws to attach it to the crarcass.
>>
>> It looks to me like his face frames are flush with the inside of the
>> cabinet whereas it sounds like yours are flush with the outside of the
>> cabinet...
>>
>
> Look at the lower right corner of the face frame in the video...
And if they weren't as John said, They could be using the adapters in
the back that allow you to attach to the back of the cabinet.
But it's probably like John said, I didn't view the video.
On 3/7/2012 11:59 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>
> "John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "jtpr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> Am I missing something here? I would like to save any steps I can as
>>> I want to make a bunch of these. My two options here are to first
>>> attach the pine to the inside of the cabinet and then use the Kreg
>>> jig to attach the slide, or, attach the slide and the pine toghether
>>> with the jig and use longer screws to attach it to the crarcass.
>>
>> It looks to me like his face frames are flush with the inside of the
>> cabinet whereas it sounds like yours are flush with the outside of the
>> cabinet...
>>
>
> Look at the lower right corner of the face frame in the video...
On 3/7/2012 10:32 AM, jtpr wrote:
> Am I missing something here? I would like to save any steps I can as
> I want to make a bunch of these. My two options here are to first
> attach the pine to the inside of the cabinet and then use the Kreg
> jig to attach the slide, or, attach the slide and the pine toghether
> with the jig and use longer screws to attach it to the crarcass.
IMO (and with very much experience in mounting drawer slide hardware),
you wasted your money on the Kreg jig, particularly for face frame
cabinets. I have one and have never used it after the first try ... too
slow and cumbersome.
It is much easier to mount the slides on, in your case 3/4" plywood
"spacers", then mount the spacers with the slides already attached,to
the cabinet end panels with a couple of 1", 18ga brads.
If you cut the front edge of the spacer perfectly square, the slide will
then mount square to the cabinet when you hold them against the back
face of the face frame. If you should need to tweak them a bit, you
gently tap then with a deadblow hammer, before screwing the spacer to
the end panels with screws.
Here is a self explanatory jig that is quick to make, and will allow you
to do a ton of drawer slides in a short time in face frame cabinets:
https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/DrawerSlideJig
The last photo shows one side mounted in a cabinet.
The above is the fastest, most efficient way to install a bunch of
drawer slides in face frame cabinets ... guaranteed.
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jtpr wrote:
> So, I'm making some roll around cabinets for the shop. About 33" high
> with 5 drawers in them. I'm using 3/4 ply for the carcass with a 3/4
> stock face frame for the front. The face frame is 1 1/2" wide. This
> leaves 3/4" reveal behind it.
>
> I'm using full extension slides and my friend says "hey you should
> really get the Kreg drawer jigs to set this up, they are great:".
> Never passing a reason to buy another tool, I get them. This is the
> magnet thing to set the slides into the cabinet and the little shelf
> things to put the slides onto the drawer.
>
> Now, I have to bring the slides out the 3/4" to be flush with the face
> frame so I'm using 1x2 pine behind each slide. This all works, but
> what I don't get is when I look at the video of this guy demoing them,
> he doesn't seem to have anything like my pine to raise out the slide.
>
> http://youtu.be/vI3jgkhxxPE
>
> Am I missing something here? I would like to save any steps I can as
> I want to make a bunch of these. My two options here are to first
> attach the pine to the inside of the cabinet and then use the Kreg
> jig to attach the slide, or, attach the slide and the pine toghether
> with the jig and use longer screws to attach it to the crarcass.
>
> -Jim
Have you contacted the vendor and asked them?
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[email protected]
NICE!
On 3/7/2012 12:42 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 3/7/2012 10:32 AM, jtpr wrote:
>
>> Am I missing something here? I would like to save any steps I can as
>> I want to make a bunch of these. My two options here are to first
>> attach the pine to the inside of the cabinet and then use the Kreg
>> jig to attach the slide, or, attach the slide and the pine toghether
>> with the jig and use longer screws to attach it to the crarcass.
>
> IMO (and with very much experience in mounting drawer slide hardware),
> you wasted your money on the Kreg jig, particularly for face frame
> cabinets. I have one and have never used it after the first try ... too
> slow and cumbersome.
>
> It is much easier to mount the slides on, in your case 3/4" plywood
> "spacers", then mount the spacers with the slides already attached,to
> the cabinet end panels with a couple of 1", 18ga brads.
>
> If you cut the front edge of the spacer perfectly square, the slide will
> then mount square to the cabinet when you hold them against the back
> face of the face frame. If you should need to tweak them a bit, you
> gently tap then with a deadblow hammer, before screwing the spacer to
> the end panels with screws.
>
> Here is a self explanatory jig that is quick to make, and will allow you
> to do a ton of drawer slides in a short time in face frame cabinets:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/DrawerSlideJig
>
> The last photo shows one side mounted in a cabinet.
>
> The above is the fastest, most efficient way to install a bunch of
> drawer slides in face frame cabinets ... guaranteed.
>
"Sonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:0c60b38b-25c4-49d1-a491-a289f1bdb0ce@m13g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 7, 11:57 am, Sonny <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Stop the video at the 2:14 thru 2:16 time marks, by double clicking on
>> the pause/resume prompt, and you can see the face frame/carcass edges
>> head on.
>>
>> Sonny
>On the left side top slide, mounted with the face frame in place, it
>looks like he has a spacer behind the drawer slide on the inside of
>the carcass.
The left and right sides of the carcass/face frame are different... on the
left side the face frame is flush on the outside and the right on the
inside... on the left there is a spacer inside and on the right there isn't.
As he rotates the cabinet this can be seen. At least that is what I see. ;~)
It's a slight of hand... he could side-line as a magician. ;~)
John
"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "jtpr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Am I missing something here? I would like to save any steps I can as
>> I want to make a bunch of these. My two options here are to first
>> attach the pine to the inside of the cabinet and then use the Kreg
>> jig to attach the slide, or, attach the slide and the pine toghether
>> with the jig and use longer screws to attach it to the crarcass.
>
> It looks to me like his face frames are flush with the inside of the
> cabinet whereas it sounds like yours are flush with the outside of the
> cabinet...
>
Look at the lower right corner of the face frame in the video...
"jtpr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Am I missing something here? I would like to save any steps I can as
> I want to make a bunch of these. My two options here are to first
> attach the pine to the inside of the cabinet and then use the Kreg
> jig to attach the slide, or, attach the slide and the pine toghether
> with the jig and use longer screws to attach it to the crarcass.
It looks to me like his face frames are flush with the inside of the cabinet
whereas it sounds like yours are flush with the outside of the cabinet...
John