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Phil Crow

25/07/2004 9:27 AM

OT: Broke the corner off a Concrete Step...

...while pressure washing a lady's house. It's new concrete (2 months
or so). It was a clean break, and the piece, when put back into place,
will hold itself there.

Will Liquid Nails or PL400 or something hold it in place? Is there
some other product that will do a better job? I have a little
hydraulic cement left over from setting some concrete anchors and was
wondering if that would hold.

Thanks, y'all.

-Phil Crow


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Andy Dingley

in reply to Phil Crow on 25/07/2004 9:27 AM

28/07/2004 5:54 PM

On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 09:27:00 -0400, Phil Crow
<[email protected]> wrote:

> ...while pressure washing a lady's house. It's new concrete

Redesign the step. Concrete only breaks like this because there's an
unsupported overhang. You can fix it as often as you like, it'll still
break in the same place and now it'll be Your Fault for ever more.

You could also try drilling a frame anchor or two in horizontally, to
support the outside portion. As for adhesives, I'd use one of the
exterior grade polyurethane mastics, like Sikkaflex (yes,
polyurethane). Cement-based mortars just aren't good in shear,
especially on small vertical surfaces.
--
Smert' spamionam

WS

Wes Stewart

in reply to Phil Crow on 25/07/2004 9:27 AM

25/07/2004 7:11 AM

On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 09:27:00 -0400, Phil Crow
<[email protected]> wrote:

| ...while pressure washing a lady's house. It's new concrete (2 months
|or so). It was a clean break, and the piece, when put back into place,
|will hold itself there.
|
|Will Liquid Nails or PL400 or something hold it in place? Is there
|some other product that will do a better job? I have a little
|hydraulic cement left over from setting some concrete anchors and was
|wondering if that would hold.

I doubt that. If you were setting anchors, you should have been using
*expansive* hydraulic cement (concrete); not something I'd use for
this job.

Think about epoxy. Also think about what possibly could happen if
someone stepped on the patch and it broke off and a fall ensued.
"Ensued" being close to what might result.

Dd

"DanG"

in reply to Phil Crow on 25/07/2004 9:27 AM

25/07/2004 8:30 AM

Use Epoxy. Powers and others make one especially for concrete. I
would not depend on panel adhesives.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Keep the whole world singing. . . .
DanG


"Phil Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> ...while pressure washing a lady's house. It's new concrete (2
months
> or so). It was a clean break, and the piece, when put back into
place,
> will hold itself there.
>
> Will Liquid Nails or PL400 or something hold it in place? Is
there
> some other product that will do a better job? I have a little
> hydraulic cement left over from setting some concrete anchors
and was
> wondering if that would hold.
>
> Thanks, y'all.
>
> -Phil Crow
>

PS

Pat Snyder

in reply to Phil Crow on 25/07/2004 9:27 AM

25/07/2004 1:03 PM

On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 09:27:00 -0400, Phil Crow
<[email protected]> wrote:



Two product lines I have used in bridge repair: Sika and Belzona.
Both have excellent adherence to existing concrete. I have tested
both and found that the concrete attached-to broke before the bond
did. Sika is less expensive, easy to use, like using regular
concrete. Belzona is 2-part, more like epoxy. To find local
distributors: web sites are sika.com and belzona.com.

Roughen up the surface where the break occurred to give the repair
lots of area to adhere to. I would even take a concrete bit and drill
some small holes to give the new piece something to grab on to.

Follow the directions carefully and you will be amazed at the results.

b

in reply to Phil Crow on 25/07/2004 9:27 AM

25/07/2004 8:37 AM


>"Phil Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> ...while pressure washing a lady's house. It's new concrete (2
>months
>> or so). It was a clean break, and the piece, when put back into
>place,
>> will hold itself there.
>>
>> Will Liquid Nails or PL400 or something hold it in place? Is
>there
>> some other product that will do a better job? I have a little
>> hydraulic cement left over from setting some concrete anchors
>and was
>> wondering if that would hold.
>>
>> Thanks, y'all.
>>
>> -Phil Crow
>>
>


2 month old concrete shouldn't fail under a pressure washer. sounds
like defective concrete to me. what warranty does the lady have?

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Phil Crow on 25/07/2004 9:27 AM

25/07/2004 4:15 PM

You might look here.

http://www.concrete.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum;f=2


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