can I just rant for a few, I like working with popular it, it's cheep enough
that I'm not paniced if I mess up, and by and large it's a very attractive
wood, but THE BLOCHING! I did two coats of minwax stain conditioner, let
one dry over night, then put another on an hour before I stained and it
still blotched!
ok now I'm done it's ok, I'll be fine
--
if corn oil is made from corn, and olive oil is made from olives, where dose
baby oil come from?
In article <[email protected]>,
Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> "firstjois" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Wes Stewart wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 10 May 2005 16:32:32 -0600, Richard Clements
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> can I just rant for a few, I like working with popular it, it's
>> >>> cheep enough that I'm not paniced if I mess up, and by and large
>> >>> it's a very attractive wood, but THE BLOCHING! I did two coats of
>> >>> minwax stain conditioner, let one dry over night, then put another
>> >>> on an hour before I stained and it still blotched!
>> >>>
>> >>> ok now I'm done it's ok, I'll be fine
>> >>
>>
>> Paint!
>
>But if you thin the paint too much, you'll have to do it again...hence:
>
>Repaint!! And thin no more!
That is, they say, the unvarnished truth.o
Wes Stewart wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 May 2005 16:32:32 -0600, Richard Clements
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> can I just rant for a few, I like working with popular it, it's
>>> cheep enough that I'm not paniced if I mess up, and by and large
>>> it's a very attractive wood, but THE BLOCHING! I did two coats of
>>> minwax stain conditioner, let one dry over night, then put another
>>> on an hour before I stained and it still blotched!
>>>
>>> ok now I'm done it's ok, I'll be fine
>>
Paint!
Hi Richard,
One of our clients is a pool / billiard table company and we have found that
more and more tables are made of poplar, stained to look something like maple
only with the grain obscured. As to your problem, I have had limited success
with conditioners however I think you should change your application method. As
the material evaporates over time, the coat applied the night before was
probably all gone while the second coat was well on it's way after an hour.
I have found a better way is to either apply Sealcoat first and then use a
compatible stain or to spray a WB dye and do not wipe. Cheers, JG
Richard Clements wrote:
> can I just rant for a few, I like working with popular it, it's cheep enough
> that I'm not paniced if I mess up, and by and large it's a very attractive
> wood, but THE BLOCHING! I did two coats of minwax stain conditioner, let
> one dry over night, then put another on an hour before I stained and it
> still blotched!
>
> ok now I'm done it's ok, I'll be fine
>
> --
> if corn oil is made from corn, and olive oil is made from olives, where dose
> baby oil come from?
"James "Cubby" Culbertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Never heard of popular. Are you referring to poplar?
>
More important, is he referring to poplar as in Populus sp. , or that
magnolia masquerading under the noble name of poplar? World of difference
between the two.
Greetings and Salutations....
On Wed, 11 May 2005 09:39:34 -0400, "firstjois"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>jo4hn wrote:
>>> Robatoy wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>>> "firstjois" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> [snip]>>>
>>>>> Paint!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But if you thin the paint too much, you'll have to do it
>>>> again...hence:
>>>>
>>>> Repaint!! And thin no more!
>>>
>>> Another escapee from the state home for the criminally silly...
>>> :-)
>>> j4
>
>Yep, time for ---- the Spanish Inquisition!
>
>Josie
>
>
YAAAA!!!!!
I did NOT expect that!
G.D.R.
Dave Mundt
Robatoy wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "firstjois" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
[snip]>>>
>>Paint!
>
>
> But if you thin the paint too much, you'll have to do it again...hence:
>
> Repaint!! And thin no more!
Another escapee from the state home for the criminally silly...
:-)
j4
Never heard of popular. Are you referring to poplar?
"Richard Clements" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> can I just rant for a few, I like working with popular it, it's cheep
> enough
> that I'm not paniced if I mess up, and by and large it's a very attractive
> wood, but THE BLOCHING! I did two coats of minwax stain conditioner, let
> one dry over night, then put another on an hour before I stained and it
> still blotched!
>
> ok now I'm done it's ok, I'll be fine
>
>
> --
> if corn oil is made from corn, and olive oil is made from olives, where
> dose
> baby oil come from?
"firstjois" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> jo4hn wrote:
>>> Robatoy wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>>> "firstjois" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> [snip]>>>
>>>>> Paint!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But if you thin the paint too much, you'll have to do it
>>>> again...hence:
>>>>
>>>> Repaint!! And thin no more!
>>>
>>> Another escapee from the state home for the criminally silly...
>>> :-)
>>> j4
>
> Yep, time for ---- the Spanish Inquisition!
>
> Josie
>
>
The Inquisition...what a show
The Inquisition...here we go...
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> >> if corn oil is made from corn, and olive oil is made from olives, where
> >> dose
> >> baby oil come from?
>
>
> ground up babies of course - stooopid....
>
> (and I don't even dare sign this one......)
>
>
>
Human Beings (beans)
Richard Clements says...
> can I just rant for a few, I like working with popular it, it's cheep enough
> that I'm not paniced if I mess up, and by and large it's a very attractive
> wood, but THE BLOCHING! I did two coats of minwax stain conditioner, let
> one dry over night, then put another on an hour before I stained and it
> still blotched!
>
> ok now I'm done it's ok, I'll be fine
Your first coat of stain conditioner was for naught since you waited too
long. The second coat should have fared better, but you learned as I
did that the product isn't a miracle cure. In my opinion poplar has
very few redeeming qualities and is not a particularly good bargain
considering I can get oak, ash, soft maple or Kentucky coffeetree for
only pennies more per board foot. It's soft, weak and gets fuzzy no
matter what you do. Grain and figure are non-existent, due partly to
the fact that the fuzziness destroys any luster any other wood might get
from good planing.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Poplar is still better as secondary wood or under paint, though.
>
Well, it's strictly a matter of taste, but I like the poplar with the
greenish cast with nothing but a shellac finish. The problem is, of
course, that the green gradually goes away - not so gradually in
sunlight :-).
I built a tall magazine rack for a friend using poplar for the rack and
alder for the two uprights and he loves it.
--
BNSF = Build Now, Seep Forever
BobS wrote:
>>>if corn oil is made from corn, and olive oil is made from olives, where
>>>dose
>>>baby oil come from?
>
>
>
> ground up babies of course - stooopid....
>
> (and I don't even dare sign this one......)
>
>
I heard that Oil of Olay is made from the sweat of Mexican
bullfighters.
--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Dave Mundt) wrote:
>
> >
> YAAAA!!!!!
> I did NOT expect that!
Nobody ever does.........
In article <[email protected]>,
"firstjois" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Wes Stewart wrote:
> >> On Tue, 10 May 2005 16:32:32 -0600, Richard Clements
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> can I just rant for a few, I like working with popular it, it's
> >>> cheep enough that I'm not paniced if I mess up, and by and large
> >>> it's a very attractive wood, but THE BLOCHING! I did two coats of
> >>> minwax stain conditioner, let one dry over night, then put another
> >>> on an hour before I stained and it still blotched!
> >>>
> >>> ok now I'm done it's ok, I'll be fine
> >>
>
> Paint!
But if you thin the paint too much, you'll have to do it again...hence:
Repaint!! And thin no more!
jo4hn wrote:
>> Robatoy wrote:
>>
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> "firstjois" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>> [snip]>>>
>>>> Paint!
>>>
>>>
>>> But if you thin the paint too much, you'll have to do it
>>> again...hence:
>>>
>>> Repaint!! And thin no more!
>>
>> Another escapee from the state home for the criminally silly...
>> :-)
>> j4
Yep, time for ---- the Spanish Inquisition!
Josie
On Wed, 11 May 2005 09:25:02 -0500, Hax Planx
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Your first coat of stain conditioner was for naught since you waited too
>long. The second coat should have fared better, but you learned as I
>did that the product isn't a miracle cure. In my opinion poplar has
>very few redeeming qualities and is not a particularly good bargain
>considering I can get oak, ash, soft maple or Kentucky coffeetree for
>only pennies more per board foot. It's soft, weak and gets fuzzy no
>matter what you do. Grain and figure are non-existent, due partly to
>the fact that the fuzziness destroys any luster any other wood might get
>from good planing.
Sounds to me like you got cottonwood rather than poplar, since all the
poplar I've seen produces little to no fuzz when worked and actually
develops a rather nice luster when planed or finish sanded.
Poplar is still better as secondary wood or under paint, though.
--
"We need to make a sacrifice to the gods, find me a young virgin... oh, and bring something to kill"
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
MOST people use it where it will not be seen or paint it.
"Richard Clements" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> can I just rant for a few, I like working with popular it, it's cheep
> enough
> that I'm not paniced if I mess up, and by and large it's a very attractive
> wood, but THE BLOCHING! I did two coats of minwax stain conditioner, let
> one dry over night, then put another on an hour before I stained and it
> still blotched!
>
> ok now I'm done it's ok, I'll be fine
>
>
> --
> if corn oil is made from corn, and olive oil is made from olives, where
> dose
> baby oil come from?
On Tue, 10 May 2005 16:32:32 -0600, Richard Clements
<[email protected]> wrote:
>can I just rant for a few, I like working with popular it, it's cheep enough
>that I'm not paniced if I mess up, and by and large it's a very attractive
>wood, but THE BLOCHING! I did two coats of minwax stain conditioner, let
>one dry over night, then put another on an hour before I stained and it
>still blotched!
>
>ok now I'm done it's ok, I'll be fine
Why? Because it's popular. Even in Finland. I've found though that
stuff made from popular keeps me awake at night. It goes cheep,
cheep, cheep all night. And when it gets older, it crows at sunrise.
Butt that's wye aye switched two poplar. Knot such a pane too Finnish.