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John

04/09/2009 2:27 PM

Source for cabinet-hanging hardware


I'm looking for some hardware to hang a cabinet. What I need is
somthing like this:
http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=2&p=40347&cat=3,40914,50426&ap=4

except horizontal instead of vertical. That is, the plate would be
attached horizontally to the cabinet, but the keyhole would still be
vertical.

I've been googling around and haven't been able to come up with
anything. Does anyone know of a source?


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John


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"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to John on 04/09/2009 2:27 PM

04/09/2009 12:25 PM


You might just make a cleat solution, like shown here
http://theheadlemur.typepad.com/remodeling_for_geeks/2008/10/a-cabinet-hang=
ing-solution.html

or

Get a keyhole router bit and don't use a plate, just cut the slot in
the wood. http://www.toolbarn.com/bits/router/bits/keyhole.html

On Sep 4, 11:27=A0am, John <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm looking for some hardware to hang a cabinet. =A0What I need is
> somthing like this:http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=3D2&p=3D=
40347&cat=3D3,40914,5...
>
> except horizontal instead of vertical. =A0That is, the plate would be
> attached horizontally to the cabinet, but the keyhole would still be
> vertical.
>
> I've been googling around and haven't been able to come up with
> anything. =A0Does anyone know of a source?
>
> Reply-to address is real
> John

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"Upscale"

in reply to John on 04/09/2009 2:27 PM

06/09/2009 2:59 AM


"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > A French cleat should solve that problem.

Some places they're called z clips.
http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=1&p=41869&cat=3,41306,41308

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to John on 04/09/2009 2:27 PM

05/09/2009 2:33 PM

On Sep 5, 4:30=A0pm, John <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 12:25:31 -0700 (PDT), "SonomaProducts.com"
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >You might just make a cleat solution, like shown here
> >http://theheadlemur.typepad.com/remodeling_for_geeks/2008/10/a-cabine...
>
> >or
>
> >Get a keyhole router bit and don't use a plate, just cut the slot in
> >the wood.http://www.toolbarn.com/bits/router/bits/keyhole.html
>
> The cleat wouldn't work because the cabinet has to sit flush against
> the wall and the back isn't recessed to allow an inset cleat. =A0
>
> The keyhole bit might work but it would be an awkward cut.
>
> (This isn't my project. =A0A friend bought a cabinet and expected it to
> have a mounting plate like the one I described because a previous one
> he bought did, but this one didn't. =A0So he's looking for one.)
>
> Thanks for the suggestions.
>
> Reply-to address is real
> John

What material is the back? How is it mounted to the cabinet?

Ll

"LD"

in reply to John on 04/09/2009 2:27 PM

06/09/2009 1:17 AM

"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "John" wrote:
>
>> The cleat wouldn't work because the cabinet has to sit flush against
>> the wall and the back isn't recessed to allow an inset cleat.
>
> A French cleat should solve that problem.
>
> Lew
>
>
>

If the back of the cabinet is not inset and the cabinet must be flush with
the wall, then a French cleat will not solve the problem unless the owner is
willing to modify the cabinet.

Cc

"CW"

in reply to John on 04/09/2009 2:27 PM

05/09/2009 2:06 PM


"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "John" wrote:
>
>> The cleat wouldn't work because the cabinet has to sit flush against
>> the wall and the back isn't recessed to allow an inset cleat.
>
> A French cleat should solve that problem.
>


?

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to John on 04/09/2009 2:27 PM

06/09/2009 2:07 AM


"LD" wrote:

> If the back of the cabinet is not inset and the cabinet must be
> flush with the wall, then a French cleat will not solve the problem
> unless the owner is willing to modify the cabinet.

Agreed; however, my guess is that if you picked up the cabinet and
held it against the wall, there would still be some gaps since the
wall and/or the cabinet back are not totally flat.

My guess this is much to do about little.

Lew



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John

in reply to John on 04/09/2009 2:27 PM

05/09/2009 4:30 PM

On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 12:25:31 -0700 (PDT), "SonomaProducts.com"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>You might just make a cleat solution, like shown here
>http://theheadlemur.typepad.com/remodeling_for_geeks/2008/10/a-cabinet-hanging-solution.html
>
>or
>
>Get a keyhole router bit and don't use a plate, just cut the slot in
>the wood. http://www.toolbarn.com/bits/router/bits/keyhole.html
>

The cleat wouldn't work because the cabinet has to sit flush against
the wall and the back isn't recessed to allow an inset cleat.

The keyhole bit might work but it would be an awkward cut.

(This isn't my project. A friend bought a cabinet and expected it to
have a mounting plate like the one I described because a previous one
he bought did, but this one didn't. So he's looking for one.)

Thanks for the suggestions.

Reply-to address is real
John

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John

in reply to John on 04/09/2009 2:27 PM

07/09/2009 7:28 AM

On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 14:33:34 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sep 5, 4:30 pm, John <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 12:25:31 -0700 (PDT), "SonomaProducts.com"
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >You might just make a cleat solution, like shown here
>> >http://theheadlemur.typepad.com/remodeling_for_geeks/2008/10/a-cabine...
>>
>> >or
>>
>> >Get a keyhole router bit and don't use a plate, just cut the slot in
>> >the wood.http://www.toolbarn.com/bits/router/bits/keyhole.html
>>
>> The cleat wouldn't work because the cabinet has to sit flush against
>> the wall and the back isn't recessed to allow an inset cleat.  
>>
>> The keyhole bit might work but it would be an awkward cut.
>>
>> (This isn't my project.  A friend bought a cabinet and expected it to
>> have a mounting plate like the one I described because a previous one
>> he bought did, but this one didn't.  So he's looking for one.)
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestions.
>>
>> Reply-to address is real
>> John
>
>What material is the back? How is it mounted to the cabinet?

I don't know. Like I said above, this isn't my project, but a
friend's. From the sound of it he was expecting the cabinet to have
the sort of hardware that I described so he prepared the wall
accordingly with a horizontal 2x4 into which he'd drive the screws to
hang it on. When the cabinet arrived without the mounting brackets, I
figured they'd be easy enough to find so I didn't ask about whether he
could screw through the cabinet back and into the wall. I guess
that's the next thing for him to consider.

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John

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to John on 04/09/2009 2:27 PM

05/09/2009 8:56 PM

"John" wrote:

> The cleat wouldn't work because the cabinet has to sit flush against
> the wall and the back isn't recessed to allow an inset cleat.

A French cleat should solve that problem.

Lew


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FrozenNorth

in reply to John on 04/09/2009 2:27 PM

05/09/2009 5:13 PM

CW wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "John" wrote:
>>
>>> The cleat wouldn't work because the cabinet has to sit flush against
>>> the wall and the back isn't recessed to allow an inset cleat.
>> A French cleat should solve that problem.
>>
>
>
> ?
>
>
It is called a Freedom Cleat now.
HTH

--
Froz...

Ll

"LD"

in reply to John on 04/09/2009 2:27 PM

06/09/2009 2:38 AM

"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "LD" wrote:
>
>> If the back of the cabinet is not inset and the cabinet must be flush
>> with the wall, then a French cleat will not solve the problem unless the
>> owner is willing to modify the cabinet.
>
> Agreed; however, my guess is that if you picked up the cabinet and held it
> against the wall, there would still be some gaps since the wall and/or the
> cabinet back are not totally flat.

and tyhe walls will be out of plumb and square ... :()

>
> My guess this is much to do about little.
>
> Lew
>
>
>
>

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to John on 04/09/2009 2:27 PM

06/09/2009 10:45 PM


I wrote:
> A French cleat should solve that problem.


"Upscale" wrote:

> Some places they're called z clips.
> http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=1&p=41869&cat=3,41306,41308

Not exactly what I had in mind, but would work.

The "French Cleat", as I know it, is simply a couple of pieces of 1x3
with a 45 degree bevel cut along the long edge.

One piece is then attached to the wall, bevel pointing out, the other
to the cabinet with the bevel pointing out.

Have the cabinet using the bevels interlocking one another.

Lew



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