I'm working on a project to create a large (but lightweight) painted
oval structure that will hang over my dining table, with three pendant
lamps that will hang below it. I plan to cut an oval 48 x 60 inches
from very thin plywood glued to stiff insulation foam, and around the
edges I want to glue paintable edgebanding or something similar. But
I'm having trouble finding a source for four- to six-inch wide
edgebanding. Frama-Tech makes it, but only sells it in 250-foot
rolls. Any ideas where I could get 200 inches of six-inch-wide
edgebanding?
Some interesting ideas. Keep 'em coming.
Wallpaper (finally) occurred to me this morning as well. I'll have to
see what I can find that's good and thick.
I guess I don't know what "butcher block paper" is. Ordinary white
butcher paper would, of course, be entirely too thin.
I'm curious why those of you recommending various sheet goods such as
Luaun wouldn't simply recommend cutting strips of a 4 x 8 veneer
sheet, which can more easily be curved.
The problem with all the sheet goods is that I'd end up with three
seams. There is no flat portion to a 4x6-foot oval.
I used Bendyboard to create a living room wall last year, and may have
some scraps left. But in the direction of the kerfs means that each
strip would only be 48 inches, giving me four seams instead of one.
And I'd have 1000 tiny kerfs to fill with wood putty on the exposed
edge.
You want "Benderboard". Any pro plywood source will carry benderboard
of some type. It is thin springy plywood, made to be bent about a
frame. You can roll that suuff up into a 12" tube easy. It usually
comes with the bendability in one dimension or the other, so be sure
to the kind that bends along the long length.
On Dec 10, 7:59=A0pm, Dennis McClendon <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I'm working on a project to create a large (but lightweight) painted
> oval structure that will hang over my dining table, with three pendant
> lamps that will hang below it. =A0I plan to cut an oval 48 x 60 inches
> from very thin plywood glued to stiff insulation foam, and around the
> edges I want to glue paintable edgebanding or something similar. =A0But
> I'm having trouble finding a source for four- to six-inch wide
> edgebanding. =A0Frama-Tech makes it, but only sells it in 250-foot
> rolls. =A0Any ideas where I could get 200 inches of six-inch-wide
> edgebanding?
> You're going to paint it? =A0Why not heavy paper or light weight cardboar=
d?
That would work (I think it's basically what paint-grade edgebanding
is), but where can I get a single strip 200 inches long?
I wanted to have one seam (on the back side) rather than three
distributed around the perimeter. I don't know how I'd bend Luan and
plastic laminate would always be trying to come apart at the seams.
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:16:50 -0800 (PST), "SonomaProducts.com"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>So use an 1/8" ply either bender or normal, place the seams at the
>apex of each arc in the oval and add a small vertical detail strip of
>molding covering each seam.
>
>On Dec 11, 6:11Â pm, Dennis McClendon <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> Some interesting ideas. Â Keep 'em coming.
>>
>> Wallpaper (finally) occurred to me this morning as well. Â I'll have to
>> see what I can find that's good and thick.
>>
>> I guess I don't know what "butcher block paper" is. Â Ordinary white
>> butcher paper would, of course, be entirely too thin.
>>
>> I'm curious why those of you recommending various sheet goods such as
>> Luaun wouldn't simply recommend cutting strips of a 4 x 8 veneer
>> sheet, which can more easily be curved.
>>
>> The problem with all the sheet goods is that I'd end up with three
>> seams. Â There is no flat portion to a 4x6-foot oval.
>>
>> I used Bendyboard to create a living room wall last year, and may have
>> some scraps left. Â But in the direction of the kerfs means that each
>> strip would only be 48 inches, giving me four seams instead of one.
>> And I'd have 1000 tiny kerfs to fill with wood putty on the exposed
>> edge.
Back up the joints instead of using mouldings. Put the joints where
the line is closest to straight (least curvature) then simply fill the
joint and paint.
"Dennis McClendon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I'm working on a project to create a large (but lightweight) painted
> oval structure that will hang over my dining table, with three pendant
> lamps that will hang below it. I plan to cut an oval 48 x 60 inches
> from very thin plywood glued to stiff insulation foam, and around the
> edges I want to glue paintable edgebanding or something similar. But
> I'm having trouble finding a source for four- to six-inch wide
> edgebanding. Frama-Tech makes it, but only sells it in 250-foot
> rolls. Any ideas where I could get 200 inches of six-inch-wide
> edgebanding?
If painting I do things the easy way. On particle board I coat with dry wall
mud. Sand smooth then primer and paint. Looks great. WW
So use an 1/8" ply either bender or normal, place the seams at the
apex of each arc in the oval and add a small vertical detail strip of
molding covering each seam.
On Dec 11, 6:11=A0pm, Dennis McClendon <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Some interesting ideas. =A0Keep 'em coming.
>
> Wallpaper (finally) occurred to me this morning as well. =A0I'll have to
> see what I can find that's good and thick.
>
> I guess I don't know what "butcher block paper" is. =A0Ordinary white
> butcher paper would, of course, be entirely too thin.
>
> I'm curious why those of you recommending various sheet goods such as
> Luaun wouldn't simply recommend cutting strips of a 4 x 8 veneer
> sheet, which can more easily be curved.
>
> The problem with all the sheet goods is that I'd end up with three
> seams. =A0There is no flat portion to a 4x6-foot oval.
>
> I used Bendyboard to create a living room wall last year, and may have
> some scraps left. =A0But in the direction of the kerfs means that each
> strip would only be 48 inches, giving me four seams instead of one.
> And I'd have 1000 tiny kerfs to fill with wood putty on the exposed
> edge.
I've come late to this conversation, so if my comment is
incorrect, it's because I misunderstood the question.
If I was planning to paint the edge of a shelf made from particle
board or plywood, I'd consider giving it a good sanding and then
filling it in with Bondo or wood putty. A good sanding would then
result in a smooth finish, ready for paint.
--
Nonny
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The person is typically a media commentator or politician.
Like these both smooth and kerfed (thicker) types available.
http://www.plywoodcompany.com/application/common/store/category.aspx?catego=
ryid=3D20&gclid=3DCJ7o1-Csz54CFQMUawodfjp4CA
On Dec 11, 1:35=A0pm, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> You want "Benderboard". Any pro plywood source will carry benderboard
> of some type. It is thin springy plywood, made to be bent about a
> frame. You can roll that suuff up into a 12" tube easy. It usually
> comes with the bendability in one dimension or the other, so be sure
> to the kind that bends along the long length.
>
> On Dec 10, 7:59=A0pm, Dennis McClendon <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'm working on a project to create a large (but lightweight) painted
> > oval structure that will hang over my dining table, with three pendant
> > lamps that will hang below it. =A0I plan to cut an oval 48 x 60 inches
> > from very thin plywood glued to stiff insulation foam, and around the
> > edges I want to glue paintable edgebanding or something similar. =A0But
> > I'm having trouble finding a source for four- to six-inch wide
> > edgebanding. =A0Frama-Tech makes it, but only sells it in 250-foot
> > rolls. =A0Any ideas where I could get 200 inches of six-inch-wide
> > edgebanding?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Dennis McClendon wrote:
>> You're going to paint it? Why not heavy paper or light weight
>> cardboard?
>
> That would work (I think it's basically what paint-grade edgebanding
> is), but where can I get a single strip 200 inches long?
>
> I wanted to have one seam (on the back side) rather than three
> distributed around the perimeter. I don't know how I'd bend Luan and
> plastic laminate would always be trying to come apart at the seams.
As charlie said, butcher block paper is a possibility. Another is
wallpaper...I'm thinking of the plain, heavy stuff meant as an underlay on
rough walls.
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I was suggesting not hiding it but adding a detail at the joint.
Probably not what you want but was just throwing out ideas. I think
the fill and sand method as others suggested is going to be the trick.
Use a heavy primer and sand that too for a real smooth finish.
On Dec 11, 9:22=A0pm, Dennis McClendon <[email protected]>
wrote:
> > add a small vertical detail strip of molding covering each seam.
>
> I'm not following. =A0How would you keep the molding from being visible
> when you looked at the finished piece?
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> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:59:22 -0800 (PST), Dennis McClendon
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I'm working on a project to create a large (but lightweight) painted
>>oval structure that will hang over my dining table, with three pendant
>>lamps that will hang below it. I plan to cut an oval 48 x 60 inches
>>from very thin plywood glued to stiff insulation foam, and around the
>>edges I want to glue paintable edgebanding or something similar. But
>>I'm having trouble finding a source for four- to six-inch wide
>>edgebanding. Frama-Tech makes it, but only sells it in 250-foot
>>rolls. Any ideas where I could get 200 inches of six-inch-wide
>>edgebanding?
> How about using arborite or formica?
1/4" luan ???
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> <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:59:22 -0800 (PST), Dennis McClendon
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>I'm working on a project to create a large (but lightweight) painted
>>>oval structure that will hang over my dining table, with three pendant
>>>lamps that will hang below it. I plan to cut an oval 48 x 60 inches
>>>from very thin plywood glued to stiff insulation foam, and around the
>>>edges I want to glue paintable edgebanding or something similar. But
>>>I'm having trouble finding a source for four- to six-inch wide
>>>edgebanding. Frama-Tech makes it, but only sells it in 250-foot
>>>rolls. Any ideas where I could get 200 inches of six-inch-wide
>>>edgebanding?
>> How about using arborite or formica?
>
> 1/4" luan ???
Scarf to length.
"Dennis McClendon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> You're going to paint it? Why not heavy paper or light weight cardboard?
>
> That would work (I think it's basically what paint-grade edgebanding
> is), but where can I get a single strip 200 inches long?
>
> I wanted to have one seam (on the back side) rather than three
> distributed around the perimeter. I don't know how I'd bend Luan
How tight a bends would you need? 1/4" Luan bends pretty well. That's why
they use it for backyard boat building. Make sure your scarfs are in the
straighter sections just to be safe. Epoxy your scarf joints.
"Dennis McClendon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> You're going to paint it? Why not heavy paper or light weight cardboard?
That would work (I think it's basically what paint-grade edgebanding
is), but where can I get a single strip 200 inches long?
I wanted to have one seam (on the back side) rather than three
distributed around the perimeter. I don't know how I'd bend Luan and
plastic laminate would always be trying to come apart at the seams.
----
butcher block paper comes in up to 1000' rolls. talk to your local deli guy?
"Dennis McClendon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> add a small vertical detail strip of molding covering each seam.
>
> I'm not following. How would you keep the molding from being visible
> when you looked at the finished piece?
I coulda swore you said your were going to PAINT it.
If well done a scarf in ply is going to have very minimal physical
depression or deformity if any. If there is any, just fill it before you
paint.
" painted oval structure "
A nice scarfing diagram.
http://www.oneoceankayaks.com/stitchglue/plyshophtm/scarfjig2.htm
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:59:22 -0800 (PST), Dennis McClendon
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm working on a project to create a large (but lightweight) painted
>oval structure that will hang over my dining table, with three pendant
>lamps that will hang below it. I plan to cut an oval 48 x 60 inches
>from very thin plywood glued to stiff insulation foam, and around the
>edges I want to glue paintable edgebanding or something similar. But
>I'm having trouble finding a source for four- to six-inch wide
>edgebanding. Frama-Tech makes it, but only sells it in 250-foot
>rolls. Any ideas where I could get 200 inches of six-inch-wide
>edgebanding?
How about using arborite or formica?
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:59:22 -0800 (PST), Dennis McClendon
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm working on a project to create a large (but lightweight) painted
>oval structure that will hang over my dining table, with three pendant
>lamps that will hang below it. I plan to cut an oval 48 x 60 inches
>from very thin plywood glued to stiff insulation foam, and around the
>edges I want to glue paintable edgebanding or something similar. But
>I'm having trouble finding a source for four- to six-inch wide
>edgebanding. Frama-Tech makes it, but only sells it in 250-foot
>rolls. Any ideas where I could get 200 inches of six-inch-wide
>edgebanding?
Many lumber yards have rolls of wide preglued (iron-on) veneer, from
something like 6" to 24" that can be cut to what ever width you'd
like. I think they're only 96" long so you'd need three peices, but
sounds like it would work for you.
HTH
Jeffo
Dennis McClendon wrote:
> I'm working on a project to create a large (but lightweight) painted
> oval structure that will hang over my dining table, with three pendant
> lamps that will hang below it. I plan to cut an oval 48 x 60 inches
> from very thin plywood glued to stiff insulation foam, and around the
> edges I want to glue paintable edgebanding or something similar. But
> I'm having trouble finding a source for four- to six-inch wide
> edgebanding. Frama-Tech makes it, but only sells it in 250-foot
> rolls. Any ideas where I could get 200 inches of six-inch-wide
> edgebanding?
You're going to paint it? Why not heavy paper or light weight cardboard?
--
dadiOH
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