O/T: With All The Other...........

On 12/12/09 10:36 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:15:09 -0600, the infamous Swingman
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On, and speaking of getting screwed, did I tell you guys about the
>>> 64GB thumb drive I ordered from China? It came in today and it's a
>>> Sony. Beautiful little thing. It's marked 64GB and shows that to the
>>> operating system, but it only holds about 4 gigs. I'd shoot the
>>> little commie bastid who sold it to me but he's all the way around the
>>> world. Now to see if eBay or Paypal will refund my fees...
>>
>> Will it format?
>
> From a DOS window in XP, no. It says that FAT32 doesn't support that
> size. I wonder if I could tell it to try NTFS. It's been a long time
> since I did DOS level work.
>
> Suggestions from the peanut gallery are cheerfully accepted.
>
Just right click on the drive from "My Computer", hit the format option
and see what happens.

--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

"Swingman" wrote

> RonB wrote:
>
>> Just lost control of his zipper!
>
> There, but for lack of opportunity, go most of us ....
>
> --
Exactly.

Like the standard answer to the classic question, why did he do that?

Answer, because he can.

It is biology. It is in our genes. Albeit, it was really stupid from a
public relations and financial perspective. But understandable and
predictable.

"RonB"

Don't expect a Boo Hoo here. The guy knew he had a family, he knew he
had obligations to fans, he knew he had millions of dollars in
endorsement money at risk, and from what I understand he was raised
understanding the value of honesty and morality. If his world caves
in on him it is because he knocked the props out from under it one
skirt at a time.

========================================

Ever know the minister's daughter or son? They turn out one of two ways.
They either are devout religeous types or they morph onto a wild child.
Tiger was raised and lived the goody two shoes life since infancy. So he
fell off the wagon. It makes him human. It doesn't make him smart.

Again, the big hit is financial. If that doesn't make stay on the straight
and narrow, nothing will. Is it moral to live a lie when your heart and soul
isn't into it? I think a little honesty is good for the soul. But we can't
expect any honesty on this matter. Too many lawyers, corporations and sacred
cows at stake.

"Robatoy" wrote

No matter how hot a woman is, somewhere there's some guy who thinks
she's a bitch.
Wood's wife 'looks' real pretty..... but that don't mean much. She
could have 'issues'.
========================

Too pretty? Not kinky enough? Talks too much?

Or how about a crazy mother inlaw who has "medical emergencies" on a semi
regular basis?

"Robatoy" wrote:

> My reply to your post, Robert, was long and detailed...but I decided
> to just send the last paragraph...to wit:
>
> Tiger Woods is a fraud. Plain and simple. What a selfish asshole.
> And
> now he's making sure that all those people who put him in all those
> tournaments, benefitting local economies, etc. are getting screwed
> too. Pondscum.

I'm certainly not condoning his behavior; however, his father was his
counsel, his base reference point, etc.

Just curious as to the timing of start of his shenanigans and the
death of his father?

Lew

"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm surprised
> nothing has surfaced about the number one player in professional golf.
>
Give the guy a break. After all that effort and sacrifice, he needs a little
recreation now and then. And you can find no better recreation than loose
women.

<[email protected]> wrote:
-------------------------------------------
> On Dec 11, 4:26 pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
-----------------------------------------
> SNIP of total bullshit.
<snip the balance of Robert venting his spleen which was quite
eloquent>

Now you know why my kill file exists

Everybody gotta be someplace.

Lew

<[email protected] wrote:

> Really? Can you really say that if you had a wife, family, two
> kids,
> a great business that could set you and a several generations of
> your
> family up for life you would be out screwing bar trash and porn
> stars?
<snip the balance of spleen venting>

Want an argument?

Change the subject.

Robert, just a guess, but I'll bet the better part of your business
these days is won on a no bid basis.

The word gets around.

Lew

Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:05:01 -0500, the infamous FrozenNorth
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>
>>On 12/12/09 10:36 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:15:09 -0600, the infamous Swingman
>>><[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On, and speaking of getting screwed, did I tell you guys about the
>>>>>64GB thumb drive I ordered from China? It came in today and it's a
>>>>>Sony. Beautiful little thing. It's marked 64GB and shows that to the
>>>>>operating system, but it only holds about 4 gigs. I'd shoot the
>>>>>little commie bastid who sold it to me but he's all the way around the
>>>>>world. Now to see if eBay or Paypal will refund my fees...
>>>>
>>>>Will it format?
>>>
>>> From a DOS window in XP, no. It says that FAT32 doesn't support that
>>>size. I wonder if I could tell it to try NTFS. It's been a long time
>>>since I did DOS level work.
>>>
>>>Suggestions from the peanut gallery are cheerfully accepted.
>>>
>>
>>Just right click on the drive from "My Computer", hit the format option
>>and see what happens.
>
>
> Nothing. It just closes the window instead of formatting.
>

See:

http://www.ntfs.com/quest22.htm

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]

I don't disagree with you at all, but given
the chance many people, myself included would
give it a serious thought.

He took it a little too far with too many risks.

Age has a way of toning that whole thought process
down a great deal.

His choices certainly left a LOT to be desired.

His friends and handlers were doing him no favors.

[email protected] wrote:


> Wouldn't you at least try to find a discreet set of fellow playmates?
> Would you really hit bar maids, porn stars and unemployed actresses?
>
> I have noticed in this thread that I seem to be quite a bit more old
> fashioned personally, more provincial than the forward thinking,
> liberal, understanding minds that are in this group. I have really
> noticed a difference my personal beliefs than some of those expressed
> here.

"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Doesn't matter. As I said earlier, the Limbic System is in control, not
> the rational mind.

Only for the weak minded.

>Suppose you're carrying a baby in your arms. Further suppose, as you're
>walking down the street, a giant of a do-bad jumps in front of you and
>starts shooting at you with a pistol! In your fright, you drop the baby and
>it's injured. Who's to blame? You?

Yes.

>
> Suppose you're on the verge of starvation and someone tosses what you know
> to be a laxative-laced hamburger. You nearly die from bowel distress.
> Who's responsible for your pain? You?

Yes.

>
> I don't think Tiger can be blamed for doing what comes naturally.

If he was a bear, I'd agree with you. What separates humans from the rest of
the animal world is our ability to think and realize the consequences of our
actions. He is solely responsible.

> If we search the depths of our souls, if we apply the "rational man" test,
> we'll agree that Tiger was the one most abused.

A "rational man" would realize that he put himself in this position and
blame only himself.


>
> My sainted grandfather once gave me a bit of useless advice: "Sonny," he
> said to me, "don't cull cunt."
>
> I say his advice was useless because it can't be done.

I've been married for 28 years. Never cheated on my wife dispite MANY
opportunities. My wife, now at age 62, has NO sex drive. I can't say the
same. I made a commitment years ago. I knew the consequences of my actions
then and was, and am, willing to except them. BTW, I'm 49.
>
>

On Dec 17, 11:07=A0am, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> ....
>
>
>
> > Really? =A0Can you really say that if you had a wife, family, two kids,
> > a great business that could set you and a several generations of your
> > family up for life you would be out screwing bar trash and porn stars?
>
> Men and women have different reproductive strategies. Females are
> biologically programmed to seek the best sperm possible from that which i=
s
> available. Males are innately driven to impregnate as many females as
> possible. Both these strategies have been evolutionarily selected to garn=
er
> the best chance for gene propagation.
>
> To counter these drives, social constraints have to be pretty powerful.
>
> I blame Tiger's wife for not making his home life more attractive or
> valuable. Cut off the social mores and the more primitive part of one's
> brain takes over.
>
> Consider the exemplar: Here's a chap who's short, wears glasses, not rich
> (although certainly 'comfortable'), ugly as a stepped-on toad, and speaks
> with a heavy accent. During his time, he dated Barbara Walters, Jill St
> John, and many other starlets and opinion leaders (and probably tried to
> impregnate them).
>
> Of course being Secretary of State and a winner of the Nobel Peace Prize
> probably helped...

I don't suppose that he could lick his eyebrows had anything to do
with that?

On Dec 11, 10:08=A0am, Steve Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
> RonB wrote:
> > On Dec 11, 7:53 am, RonB <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Dec 10, 3:10 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
> >>> surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
> >>> professional golf.
> >>> Lew
> >>> =A0"What's to say? Tiger is the victim here......"
> >>> "Give the guy a break. After all that effort and sacrifice......"
> >> He's the victim? =A0Good grief! =A0What about wife, family and maybe e=
ven
> >> the folks who work for him, not to mention the public who adored him.
> >> He WAS among the few very big personalities that parents could point
> >> to and say "Look at that guy. He has made it big in life and kept his
> >> head straight." =A0If even some of the stuff starting to surface now i=
s
> >> true, he has been hitting on every thing in sight.
>
> >> Don't expect a Boo Hoo here. =A0The guy knew he had a family, he knew =
he
> >> had obligations to fans, he knew he had millions of dollars in
> >> endorsement money at risk, and from what I understand he was raised
> >> understanding the value of honesty and morality. =A0If his world caves
> >> in on him it is because he knocked the props out from under it one
> >> skirt at a time.
>
> >> So there! =A0I feel better now.
>
> >> RonB
>
> > Oh...And by the way he also knew he had a prenuptial agreement.
>
> > Just lost control of his zipper!
>
> > RonB
>
> I can't understand what was wrong with what he had at home... =A0One of t=
he finest looking
> ladies on the planet if you ask me, and he's out tapping anything that co=
mes along? =A0What a
> dumbass.
>
> --
> Repeat after me:
> "I am we Todd it. =A0I am sofa king we Todd it."
> To reply, eat the taco.http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/

No matter how hot a woman is, somewhere there's some guy who thinks
she's a bitch.
Wood's wife 'looks' real pretty..... but that don't mean much. She
could have 'issues'.

In article <[email protected]>, Lew Hodgett
<[email protected]> wrote:

> With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
> surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
> professional golf.
>
> Lew

<http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-12-08/harem-managem
ent-101/?cid=hp:beastoriginalsL1>

In article <[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:34:41 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone
> <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> scrawled the following:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>, Lew Hodgett
> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
> >> surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
> >> professional golf.
> >>
> >> Lew
> >
> ><http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-12-08/harem-managem
> >ent-101/?cid=hp:beastoriginalsL1>
>
> Dayam! I'll take Tracy Quan. What a babe! She's twice as cute as
> anything Tiger's tappin'.
>
> Oh, she's a former high-class hooker. No wonder. She's yet another,
> and quite different, American success story, isn't she?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracy_Quan

She may have been born in the untied skates, but she grew up and
blossomed here in canuckistan, C-less.

Ours, she is.

She was oft interviewed on public radio here when her book first came
out, and I was impressed with her matter-of-fact discussion about her
time as a prostitute. She didn't pull any punches, but she never went
for the sympathy card, nor did she try to glamourize.

On Dec 17, 3:13=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
> > On Dec 17, 1:49 pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> [email protected] wrote:
> >>> On Dec 16, 3:15 pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> Does just looking count?
> >>>> ;)
> >>> Yikes!!
> >>> No way! =A0If it did, I would have been boiled in oil and my hide tac=
ked
> >>> to a barn. =A0I don't think there is any limit to appreciating the fi=
ne
> >>> form of a woman, nor should there be.
> >>> I do love summer time and the old fashioned sun dresses...
> >> To me there is nothing sexier than a good looking woman in a sun dress=
,
> >> and the dresses do appear to making a come back.
>
> >> AAMOF, Leon and I both got caught watching one at a local outdoor
> >> concert in the neighborhood park a year or so ago ... a vision of
> >> loveliness, she was!
>
> >> Right, Leon? =A0:)
>
> >> Gotta get to the shop and find a project to sand, that new Rotex is ju=
st
> >> itching to be fondled!
>
> >> (thought I'd NEVER say that!!) =A0:)
>
> > 'Twas jus' a matter of time, bro'.
>
> > Now, see if you can get your hands on some Abranet (use the Mirka
> > protector pad)....
>
> Gotta give that a try ... heard you talk about it to Leon, but it was
> too rich for my blood at the time.
>
> Now that I've got a jones, I'll pay more attention.
>
> you'll think you've died and gone to heaven....
>
> > okay.. that may be overstating it a bit.
>
> For that, I had hoped to be playing bass in a three piece with SRV.
>
> > BTW, I just ran into a guy who was using a Festool jigsaw on an
> > installation. I finally told him to shut-the-hell-up-about-it-already.
> > LOL
>
> Know the feeling ... this stuff is talk worthy to a fault.
>
> > Oh... and that 2000 watt router?
>
> Yeah? Tell me more ... never mind, need to let the wallet get over its
> shock for a while.
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 10/22/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)

A magnetic braking system? 18 amps of genuine power? Quieter than
most. 3 bearing system.

Downside? You can buy 2 BigBadBoy 3.5 HP Milwaukees for the same
money.
Like their cordless drill, it is probably the best of that type of
tool on the market, but common sense takes over.

Now, the sander is different. Still costs more than any other sander,
but it also does mo'/better than any other sander, so the extra coin
is easily justified, IMHO. The drill and router? Not that easily
justified. Same with the Kapex and their Jigsaw. Nice tools, no doubt.
But exactly HOW much better than the Makita LS 10++ series can it be?
How much better than the big-boy Bosch jigsaw can theirs be? Of course
the Domino is in a class all by itself.
IOW.. just because it is a Festool, doesn't mean it is worth the extra
coin.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Okay... WhoTF am I kidding? I won't be happy till all my tools are
black and green.

On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:05:01 -0500, the infamous FrozenNorth
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>On 12/12/09 10:36 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:15:09 -0600, the infamous Swingman
>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>
>>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On, and speaking of getting screwed, did I tell you guys about the
>>>> 64GB thumb drive I ordered from China? It came in today and it's a
>>>> Sony. Beautiful little thing. It's marked 64GB and shows that to the
>>>> operating system, but it only holds about 4 gigs. I'd shoot the
>>>> little commie bastid who sold it to me but he's all the way around the
>>>> world. Now to see if eBay or Paypal will refund my fees...
>>>
>>> Will it format?
>>
>> From a DOS window in XP, no. It says that FAT32 doesn't support that
>> size. I wonder if I could tell it to try NTFS. It's been a long time
>> since I did DOS level work.
>>
>> Suggestions from the peanut gallery are cheerfully accepted.
>>
>Just right click on the drive from "My Computer", hit the format option
>and see what happens.

Nothing. It just closes the window instead of formatting.

--
Don't forget the 7 P's:
Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss-Poor Performance

On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:46:27 -0500, the infamous "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>
>"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Steve Turner wrote:
>>
>>> I can't understand what was wrong with what he had at home... One of the
>>> finest looking ladies on the planet if you ask me, and he's out tapping
>>> anything that comes along? What a dumbass.
>>
>> That eternal, unanswered, philosophical question: "Is it all really pink
>> on the inside?"
>>
>
>Followed by "Does it all really look the same upside down?

As the French say, "If you can't join 'em, lick 'em."

--
Don't forget the 7 P's:
Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss-Poor Performance

>
> I don't think Tiger can be blamed for doing what comes naturally. If we
> search the depths of our souls, if we apply the "rational man" test, we'll
> agree that Tiger was the one most abused.
>

Holy Crap!. I'll just go tell my grand-kids that if they work hard,
become successful and make tons of money, its OK to screw around on
your family.

Actually this reminds me of what some kids seem to be learning these
days. "Don't worry Johnny, it isn't your fault. Nothing is you
fault."

RonB

On Dec 18, 7:49=A0am, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> That's because great minds stink alike.

You betcha.

LMAO!

Robert

On Dec 11, 4:26 pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:

SNIP of total bullshit.

> Nope, not his fault.

I hope that was an attempt at humor, or just a bored trolling
response.

I hope you understand that you are not a dog, but designed as a
thinking being. You can easily check by counting the number of legs
you have as well as whether you lick the dried piss off the end of
your pecker.

I would love to hear you explain to a female in your family (say a
daughter for instance) that it was just fine, no big deal for her
husband to fuck some bar trash. "No big deal baby, he saw the old axe
wound and there was nothing he could do. He was powerless to stop
following his pecker. Hell, I've done it all my life...."

Yeah. Uh huh. I'm sure their respect for you wouldn't be diminished,
and certainly that would make your loved ones feel good about you.

Aren't some of you guys that think this is no big deal the ones that
were ready to blindfold and shoot Clinton for pounding old Pudgy in
The White House? Not to mention ruining a perfectly good cigar?

No one gives a shit what you do when you are divorced, separated,
single, widowed, or who or how many you do it with.

So we will use your idea and say that men are powerless when
confronted with a look at a biscuit. Then as with Tiger all bets are
off. All promises are gone, and all contracts void.

Take the bitch out of the equation. No one made Tiger get married.
But part of marriage and acting like a grown up is to keep your word.
Now for you I see it is OK to lie to your wife. But how about Tiger's
own, personal integrity? He compromised himself, his integrity, and
his honesty. HE pledged those things, and if he can't be true to his
wife, he should at least be true to himself.

My old man always told me "you better watch what you do in your life;
remember, you will have to look yourself in the eye every single
morning when you shave.... make sure you can do it".

I guess if you have no personal integrity (yup - set the bitch and
your promises aside) then it isn't a problem. After all, in your
world, it's as innocent as two dogs screwing in front you and your
kiddos; no harm and no foul since they simply can't do any better.

I can understand that in dogs. But I am not cut from that cloth. As
a man, I do my best to keep my word, and my oath of fidelity.

Going strictly to his business image, I can't imagine how his sponsors
feel. They have paid him millions and millions for his squeaky clean
image. He is the one that built that image. His product/image is one
of integrity, hard work, dedication to one's self and craft, and that
of a dedicated family man "raised with old fashioned values". He and
his marketing machine created that image for the sponsors.

How do you think they feel now? (HINT: no TW commercials have run
since 24 hours after the "accident"). They bought a product as surely
as someone buys a car, a house, or a barbecue pit. They bought the
image that Tiger and his managers created. Unlike Charles Barkley,
Kurt Nowitski and others who made it clear they were not role models
and didn't want to be, Tiger welcomed it with open arms.

So what about Tiger the product? Since he has now not only screwed
all that skank, how about the screwing he has given his sponsors?
Remember, Tiger is a product in the business world, a product sold on
the image he himself created with his staff of marketers. Should they
get their money back?

I can't imagine trying to sell your logic to a board of directors.
Explaining how their investment was lost simply because some bink
showed him her box and he lost control because of his genetic
imperative probably wouldn't go far. Imagine building a marketing
campaign built around him only to find he can't keep his pant zipped.

And for the love of Pete. I have known a lot of guys (and plenty of
women) that cheat on their spouses. But they are discreet. They
don't screw road whores picked up in bars, the trash along the side of
the road left by other celebrities or worse, porn stars that will do
anything to further their career. How stupid could this guy get?

You don't think half of the rich and famous guys in this world have a
little cum dumpster waiting for them somewhere? Someone that is paid
so well, so well vetted, and so separate from the rest of their world
they can do their "stuff " for years without getting caught? If they
ever do?

And that idiot is sending emails, texts, leaving voicemails, etc. All
dutifully recorded by those little spooge monkeys for their further
use.

A reputable madam with reputable girls that kept shut would have done
the trick. Everyone would have been happy except the wife he was
making a fool of, and the kids he was lying to.

"No... Daddy can't come home. He has to work late today, again. He's
working on getting a little more out of his wood(s)..."

What an idiot.

We obviously look at the world in a much different fashion. I am not
so high toned and and esoteric in thought as to consider reversing
evolution to put my own personal habits in with those of barking
dogs.

If there was absolutely no other reason, I would not cheat because I
wouldn't be true to myself. My oath to someone else is secondary.
There have been times when my integrity seems to be all I had.

But the biggest reasons would be two things: all the hurt it creates
(like a mushroom cloud), some of it permanent; and the fact that
99.999% of women just aren't worth the trouble they cause.

Some of the best advice I ever got about that subject I received as a
teen from a guy that had a couple of broken marriages under his belt.
He knew I like whiskey and bars.

"Watch what you do with those women, Robert. A whiskey glass and a
whore's ass can make fool out of any man".

Maybe Tiger should have started his life digging ditches and sweeping
floors with me.

Robert

On Dec 17, 1:51 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:

> You mean the single layer of chiffon and nekkid underneath? Slight
> breeze?
> .
> .
> .
> you perv...

EXACTLY.

In the 70s when they were big, my main squeeze was on the college swim
team. She had a body made for those dresses; long, lean, tan....

She had no idea that you wore underwear under those dresses. Talk
about convenient...

*sigh*

Robert

On Dec 16, 3:40=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
[snipped another good one for brevity's sake]

For me to be even remotely interested in a fling, the 'other' woman
would have to be more beautiful inside and out, more intelligent, and
more loving/caring than the one I'm married to.
THAT will never happen.
I am still able to appreciate the physical beauty of other women...
there's some stunning bitchmeat out there...

Besides... scoring floozies when one has Tiger-kinda money, is hardly
a challenge.
If he shot 18 hole-in-one's at the next Masters...he wouldn't crawl up
my respect scale one lousy inch.

On Dec 17, 9:45 pm, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > [email protected] wrote:
> > ....
>
> > Men and women have different reproductive strategies. Females are
> > biologically programmed to seek the best sperm possible from that which is
> > available. Males are innately driven to impregnate as many females as
> > possible. Both these strategies have been evolutionarily selected to
> > garner the best chance for gene propagation.
>
> Bull.
>
>
>
> > To counter these drives, social constraints have to be pretty powerful.
>
> > I blame Tiger's wife for not making his home life more attractive or
> > valuable.
>
> That's foolish since you know nothing about the matter.
>
> > Cut off the social mores and the more primitive part of one's brain takes
> > over.
>
> Again - Bull.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> [email protected]

Mike - you quoted me as dumping that steaming pile of bullshit on the
group board. It wasn't me.

I don't mind you quoting someone else and attributing it to me if it
is something intelligent (good on ya if you do!), but would prefer not
to be included a group that thinks that men and women have not evolved
socially any farther than a common yard dog.

Statements like those are just so profoundly stupid in actual
application in modern society it is disgusting. Google University can
tell people what to say on any subject, but it sure can't make them
think. (see above)

So.... snip me out next time, eh?

Or else I will tell people you shoot car finishes from a rattle can.
That oughta put you on notice!! =^0

BTW, I agree with everything you said, especially call bullshit where
it was so deep you couldn't drive a truck out of it.

Robert

On Dec 16, 3:15 pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Does just looking count?
>
> ;)

Yikes!!

No way! If it did, I would have been boiled in oil and my hide tacked
to a barn. I don't think there is any limit to appreciating the fine
form of a woman, nor should there be.

I do love summer time and the old fashioned sun dresses...

Gets the juices flowing!

Robert

On Dec 16, 12:55 pm, Pat Barber <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank you...
> The truth is starting to come out.

> > There, but for lack of opportunity, go most of us ....

Really? Can you really say that if you had a wife, family, two kids,
a great business that could set you and a several generations of your
family up for life you would be out screwing bar trash and porn stars?

Hell, after boinking a couple of cum catchers from the porn industry,
would you really go home and screw your wife or girlfriend? Could you
look her in the eye while you were doing it?

Wouldn't you at least try to find a discreet set of fellow playmates?
Would you really hit bar maids, porn stars and unemployed actresses?

I have noticed in this thread that I seem to be quite a bit more old
fashioned personally, more provincial than the forward thinking,
liberal, understanding minds that are in this group. I have really
noticed a difference my personal beliefs than some of those expressed
here.

As a sidebar, I would love to be a fly on the wall if your own son in
law was trying to explain to you why he screwed 10 - 15 girls in the
first five years of a brand new marriage, especially since she was
pregnant for about a year and a half of that time.

I have noticed that when situations become personal, forward thinking
and learned esoteric ideals mean little. Would you honestly tell your
own daughter that as many as >>15<< other long term cum buckets in
their marriage was just fine? Could you look your daughter in the eye
and tell her that? Or could you tell her that it was all OK because
men do things like that just they have an opportunity, or they were
"tempted"?

Here's a better question, Pat. And to anyone that wants to respond.

This is a serious question. Here's a chance for any of you to man up,
"old school" style. Use plain language that a relic like myself can
understand.

Pat, or anyone else, would you screw a couple of different women a
year on a regular basis if you simply had the chance to do so?

No need to respond if you aren't married or in a committed
relationship. No one cares. Collect all the scalps you want and
weave a blanket out of them for all I care.

But I would love to see the cloying, obtuse comments about the human
condition regarding the male of the species replaced with a solid
"Yeah, I'd hit that biscuit <any time> on anyone that I had a chance
to, any time I wanted to as long as it was a target of opportunity. I
can't be asked to control myself. That's what guys like us do. As
long as it's offered, I'll stuff it."

Anybody gonna man up and come out and say it? Lots of cute dancing
around, a few university style platitudes about temptation and the
human condition have been posted. But none of the usual clear, in
your face brassiness has been displayed by the "don't ask me what I
think if you don't want to know" group here.

Too much cute tiptoeing. Grow a pair, and show them off.

Surely many of those here have plenty of opportunities to knock off a
piece when they want. I sure do. (But I sure don't). But if it
truly isn't a big deal to you, I am sure your lifestyle is phrased
that way, so just admitting it shouldn't be a big deal.

So.... who will man up? Who will say, I am doing "that" now, or I
sure would be screwing as many women as I could if I had the
opportunity myself?

Love to see some of the more modern thinking folks come out and say
they are doing more than working their mouths, here. I would like to
see just how many people here believe enough in what they say to
confirm they live their personal lives the same way.

Robert

Thank you...
The truth is starting to come out.


Swingman wrote:
> RonB wrote:
>
>> Just lost control of his zipper!
>
> There, but for lack of opportunity, go most of us ....
>

On Dec 17, 1:39=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Dec 16, 3:15 pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Does just looking count?
>
> > ;)
>
> Yikes!!
>
> No way! =A0If it did, I would have been boiled in oil and my hide tacked
> to a barn. =A0I don't think there is any limit to appreciating the fine
> form of a woman, nor should there be.
>
> I do love summer time and the old fashioned sun dresses...
>
You mean the single layer of chiffon and nekkid underneath? Slight
breeze?
.
.
.
you perv...

On Dec 10, 3:10=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
> surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
> professional golf.
>
> Lew

> "What's to say? Tiger is the victim here......"

> "Give the guy a break. After all that effort and sacrifice......"

He's the victim? Good grief! What about wife, family and maybe even
the folks who work for him, not to mention the public who adored him.
He WAS among the few very big personalities that parents could point
to and say "Look at that guy. He has made it big in life and kept his
head straight." If even some of the stuff starting to surface now is
true, he has been hitting on every thing in sight.

Don't expect a Boo Hoo here. The guy knew he had a family, he knew he
had obligations to fans, he knew he had millions of dollars in
endorsement money at risk, and from what I understand he was raised
understanding the value of honesty and morality. If his world caves
in on him it is because he knocked the props out from under it one
skirt at a time.

So there! I feel better now.

RonB

On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:57:15 -0600, the infamous Swingman
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> From a DOS window in XP, no. It says that FAT32 doesn't support that
>> size. I wonder if I could tell it to try NTFS. It's been a long time
>> since I did DOS level work.
>>
>> Suggestions from the peanut gallery are cheerfully accepted.
>
>NTFS is definitely the way to go ...don't worry about doing it at DOS
>level as you don't want to use fdisk anyway, let Windows have a shot,
>nothing to lose since you're returning it in any event.

I had just tried that, to no avail, when I read your post.

C:\format F:/FS:NTFS gives me "NTFS file system is not supported on
this device optimized for removal."

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On Dec 17, 6:40=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > Robatoy wrote:
>
> >> Now, see if you can get your hands on some Abranet (use the Mirka
> >> protector pad)....
>
> > Gotta give that a try ... heard you talk about it to Leon, but it was t=
oo
> > rich for my blood at the time.
>
> Well I liked it at first, I was using a sample pack. =A0I am not so encha=
nted
> now. =A0 Do you remember how the top rail on the footboard to the bed met=
up
> with the post? =A0It was slightly lower than the post. =A0I use the Abran=
et to
> even those up, licketysplit. =A0Then just like that the Abrinet tore. =A0=
It
> works great on flat smooth surfaces. =A0Stay away from "obstackles" amd d=
ont
> let the pad go more than a little over the edge of a flat surface.
>
> That said I noticed a new vendor producing a carbide type sanding pad in =
all
> grits IIRC. =A0I think it is the vendor that is making the small gold col=
ored
> cut off wheel with a lot of holes in it...

Goodness, noo.. Abranet is not good for contour sanding. But for
panels and tabletops it is, for me at least, the best I have ever
used.
I still do all contours by hand with pads and sponges.

That carbide stuff sounds intriguing. Keep me posted when you find out
more, please.

r

HeyBub wrote:
> Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On, and speaking of getting screwed, did I tell you guys about the
>> 64GB thumb drive I ordered from China? It came in today and it's a
>> Sony. Beautiful little thing. It's marked 64GB and shows that to the
>> operating system, but it only holds about 4 gigs. I'd shoot the
>> little commie bastid who sold it to me but he's all the way around the
>> world. Now to see if eBay or Paypal will refund my fees...
>
> 4GB is the normal FAT32 limit. You can get around this in several ways:
>
> 1. Reformat the drive with 64Mb sector sizes.
>
> 2. Reformat with NTFS. You've said in other responses that the drive won't
> format NTFS.
>
> That is VERY hard to believe.

Not at all ... being a USB thumb drive, XP's Device Manager
automagically assumes when it is inserted that you want it configured
for "quick removal", which, since Windows does not allow "hot swapping"
of drives, will try to keep you from formatting.

Things may have changed, but it was like that up to at least SP1 on XP,
which is the last time I dealt with XP.

Being Windows, there might also be other configuration issues, but this
was a definitely known issue when trying to format larger the 4GB USB
drives when they first came out ... which is why I mentioned the
possibility of this being the problem.

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On Dec 17, 11:17 pm, Steve <[email protected]> wrote:

> After leaving a disastrous relationship, I met my wife. We have been
> married 25 years. There have been many women that I could have pursued,
> but have never even given them a second thought. Just not worth it. When
> you find a "gold nugget", you don't toss it away for a bigger one that
> might just turn out to be "fools gold".

Actually, I never had a bad relationship with a woman. For the most
part, in their twenties and thirties women were still fun, and looking
to have fun. I was all for that. I had some relationships that
lasted, but most were fun acquaintances.

I didn't meet the woman I am with now and get serious until I was
about 34. Until that time, I spent my days learning, starting and
running two different businesses. I had the pleasure and luck to meet
all kinds of females on that track, but the businesses were more
interesting and certainly demanded more than the women I met. But
most of nights were either spent in the office or "out and about".

Interestingly, I frequently talk to guys that wonder what their lives
would have been like if they had money to do what they wanted, and had
stayed single through their teens, all of their twenties, and part of
their 30s free to go out or date as they pleased.. I'll just say, <<
I >> wouldn't do it any other way.

Besides, women don't really get interesting until they get in their
30s anyway.

Then I met the woman I am with now, and have been with for 20 years.
After plenty of experience, I knew what I had found and was willing to
be monogamous. After all, you only get out of a relationship what you
put in it, right? I certainly expected the same level of commitment
from her!

I have never regretted what I did as my old uncommitted self (even
though I was probably a lot more fun to be around in those days!),
nor my decision to commit.

Robert

On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:08:28 -0600, Steve Turner
<[email protected]> wrote:

>RonB wrote:
>> On Dec 11, 7:53 am, RonB <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Dec 10, 3:10 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
>>>> surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
>>>> professional golf.
>>>> Lew
>>>> "What's to say? Tiger is the victim here......"
>>>> "Give the guy a break. After all that effort and sacrifice......"
>>> He's the victim? Good grief! What about wife, family and maybe even
>>> the folks who work for him, not to mention the public who adored him.
>>> He WAS among the few very big personalities that parents could point
>>> to and say "Look at that guy. He has made it big in life and kept his
>>> head straight." If even some of the stuff starting to surface now is
>>> true, he has been hitting on every thing in sight.
>>>
>>> Don't expect a Boo Hoo here. The guy knew he had a family, he knew he
>>> had obligations to fans, he knew he had millions of dollars in
>>> endorsement money at risk, and from what I understand he was raised
>>> understanding the value of honesty and morality. If his world caves
>>> in on him it is because he knocked the props out from under it one
>>> skirt at a time.
>>>
>>> So there! I feel better now.
>>>
>>> RonB
>>
>> Oh...And by the way he also knew he had a prenuptial agreement.
>>
>> Just lost control of his zipper!
>>
>> RonB
>
>I can't understand what was wrong with what he had at home... One of the finest looking
>ladies on the planet if you ask me, and he's out tapping anything that comes along? What a
>dumbass.


Ever see a car collection with more than one Ferrari?

On Dec 17, 1:49=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > On Dec 16, 3:15 pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> Does just looking count?
>
> >> ;)
>
> > Yikes!!
>
> > No way! =A0If it did, I would have been boiled in oil and my hide tacke=
d
> > to a barn. =A0I don't think there is any limit to appreciating the fine
> > form of a woman, nor should there be.
>
> > I do love summer time and the old fashioned sun dresses...
>
> To me there is nothing sexier than a good looking woman in a sun dress,
> and the dresses do appear to making a come back.
>
> AAMOF, Leon and I both got caught watching one at a local outdoor
> concert in the neighborhood park a year or so ago ... a vision of
> loveliness, she was!
>
> Right, Leon? =A0:)
>
> Gotta get to the shop and find a project to sand, that new Rotex is just
> itching to be fondled!
>
> (thought I'd NEVER say that!!) =A0:)
>

'Twas jus' a matter of time, bro'.

Now, see if you can get your hands on some Abranet (use the Mirka
protector pad).... you'll think you've died and gone to heaven....
okay.. that may be overstating it a bit.

BTW, I just ran into a guy who was using a Festool jigsaw on an
installation. I finally told him to shut-the-hell-up-about-it-already.
LOL

Oh... and that 2000 watt router?

"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote:
> ....

>
> Men and women have different reproductive strategies. Females are
> biologically programmed to seek the best sperm possible from that which is
> available. Males are innately driven to impregnate as many females as
> possible. Both these strategies have been evolutionarily selected to
> garner the best chance for gene propagation.

Bull.

>
> To counter these drives, social constraints have to be pretty powerful.
>
> I blame Tiger's wife for not making his home life more attractive or
> valuable.

That's foolish since you know nothing about the matter.

> Cut off the social mores and the more primitive part of one's brain takes
> over.
>

Again - Bull.

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Lew Hodgett wrote:
> With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
> surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
> professional golf.
>
> Lew
>
>
>

You talking about Chetah?

"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1a63209c-c131-49bf-b9a9-9e0a171af13b@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
Snip


Now, the sander is different. Still costs more than any other sander,
but it also does mo'/better than any other sander, so the extra coin
is easily justified, IMHO. The drill and router? Not that easily
justified. Same with the Kapex and their Jigsaw. Nice tools, no doubt.
But exactly HOW much better than the Makita LS 10++ series can it be?
How much better than the big-boy Bosch jigsaw can theirs be? Of course
the Domino is in a class all by itself.
IOW.. just because it is a Festool, doesn't mean it is worth the extra
coin.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Okay... WhoTF am I kidding? I won't be happy till all my tools are
black and green.

You can get green and black spray paint at the HD. :~)

[email protected] wrote:
> On Dec 16, 3:15 pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Does just looking count?
>>
>> ;)
>
> Yikes!!
>
> No way! If it did, I would have been boiled in oil and my hide tacked
> to a barn. I don't think there is any limit to appreciating the fine
> form of a woman, nor should there be.
>
> I do love summer time and the old fashioned sun dresses...

To me there is nothing sexier than a good looking woman in a sun dress,
and the dresses do appear to making a come back.

AAMOF, Leon and I both got caught watching one at a local outdoor
concert in the neighborhood park a year or so ago ... a vision of
loveliness, she was!

Right, Leon? :)

Gotta get to the shop and find a project to sand, that new Rotex is just
itching to be fondled!

(thought I'd NEVER say that!!) :)

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On 12/12/2009 9:57 AM, Swingman wrote:
> Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> From a DOS window in XP, no. It says that FAT32 doesn't support that
>> size. I wonder if I could tell it to try NTFS. It's been a long time
>> since I did DOS level work.
>> Suggestions from the peanut gallery are cheerfully accepted.
>
> NTFS is definitely the way to go ...don't worry about doing it at DOS
> level as you don't want to use fdisk anyway, let Windows have a shot,
> nothing to lose since you're returning it in any event.
>

Of interest:

http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs_vs_fat.htm

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On Dec 11, 7:53=A0am, RonB <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Dec 10, 3:10=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
> > surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
> > professional golf.
>
> > Lew
> > =A0"What's to say? Tiger is the victim here......"
> > "Give the guy a break. After all that effort and sacrifice......"
>
> He's the victim? =A0Good grief! =A0What about wife, family and maybe even
> the folks who work for him, not to mention the public who adored him.
> He WAS among the few very big personalities that parents could point
> to and say "Look at that guy. He has made it big in life and kept his
> head straight." =A0If even some of the stuff starting to surface now is
> true, he has been hitting on every thing in sight.
>
> Don't expect a Boo Hoo here. =A0The guy knew he had a family, he knew he
> had obligations to fans, he knew he had millions of dollars in
> endorsement money at risk, and from what I understand he was raised
> understanding the value of honesty and morality. =A0If his world caves
> in on him it is because he knocked the props out from under it one
> skirt at a time.
>
> So there! =A0I feel better now.
>
> RonB

Oh...And by the way he also knew he had a prenuptial agreement.

Just lost control of his zipper!

RonB

On Dec 12, 4:18 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
[snipped a a whole bunch of good stuff for brevitiarazation purposes].
>
> If there was absolutely no other reason, I would not cheat because I
> wouldn't be true to myself. My oath to someone else is secondary.
> There have been times when my integrity seems to be all I had.
>

My reply to your post, Robert, was long and detailed...but I decided
to just send the last paragraph...to wit:

Tiger Woods is a fraud. Plain and simple. What a selfish asshole. And
now he's making sure that all those people who put him in all those
tournaments, benefitting local economies, etc. are getting screwed
too. Pondscum.

On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:30:54 -0600, "HeyBub" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>RonB wrote:
>> On Dec 10, 3:10 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
>>> surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
>>> professional golf.
>>>
>>> Lew
>>
>>> "What's to say? Tiger is the victim here......"
>>
>>> "Give the guy a break. After all that effort and sacrifice......"
>>
>> He's the victim? Good grief! What about wife, family and maybe even
>> the folks who work for him, not to mention the public who adored him.
>> He WAS among the few very big personalities that parents could point
>> to and say "Look at that guy. He has made it big in life and kept his
>> head straight." If even some of the stuff starting to surface now is
>> true, he has been hitting on every thing in sight.
>>
>> Don't expect a Boo Hoo here. The guy knew he had a family, he knew he
>> had obligations to fans, he knew he had millions of dollars in
>> endorsement money at risk, and from what I understand he was raised
>> understanding the value of honesty and morality. If his world caves
>> in on him it is because he knocked the props out from under it one
>> skirt at a time.
>>
>
>Doesn't matter. As I said earlier, the Limbic System is in control, not the
>rational mind. Suppose you're carrying a baby in your arms. Further suppose,
>as you're walking down the street, a giant of a do-bad jumps in front of you
>and starts shooting at you with a pistol! In your fright, you drop the baby
>and it's injured. Who's to blame? You?
>
>Suppose you see someone beating on the one you love. You intervene and get
>hurt. Who's to blame for your injuries? You?
>
>Suppose you're on the verge of starvation and someone tosses what you know
>to be a laxative-laced hamburger. You nearly die from bowel distress. Who's
>responsible for your pain? You?
>
>I don't think Tiger can be blamed for doing what comes naturally. If we
>search the depths of our souls, if we apply the "rational man" test, we'll
>agree that Tiger was the one most abused.
>
>My sainted grandfather once gave me a bit of useless advice: "Sonny," he
>said to me, "don't cull cunt."
>
>I say his advice was useless because it can't be done.
>

My dad always advised me to get a lot while I was young. It wasn't
until years later that I realized he was talking about real estate.

"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Robatoy wrote:
>>
>> Now, see if you can get your hands on some Abranet (use the Mirka
>> protector pad)....
>
> Gotta give that a try ... heard you talk about it to Leon, but it was too
> rich for my blood at the time.

Well I liked it at first, I was using a sample pack. I am not so enchanted
now. Do you remember how the top rail on the footboard to the bed met up
with the post? It was slightly lower than the post. I use the Abranet to
even those up, licketysplit. Then just like that the Abrinet tore. It
works great on flat smooth surfaces. Stay away from "obstackles" amd dont
let the pad go more than a little over the edge of a flat surface.

That said I noticed a new vendor producing a carbide type sanding pad in all
grits IIRC. I think it is the vendor that is making the small gold colored
cut off wheel with a lot of holes in it...

On Dec 11, 8:53=A0am, RonB <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Dec 10, 3:10=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
> > surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
> > professional golf.
>
> > Lew
> > =A0"What's to say? Tiger is the victim here......"
> > "Give the guy a break. After all that effort and sacrifice......"
>
> He's the victim? =A0Good grief! =A0What about wife, family and maybe even
> the folks who work for him, not to mention the public who adored him.
> He WAS among the few very big personalities that parents could point
> to and say "Look at that guy. He has made it big in life and kept his
> head straight." =A0If even some of the stuff starting to surface now is
> true, he has been hitting on every thing in sight.
>
> Don't expect a Boo Hoo here. =A0The guy knew he had a family, he knew he
> had obligations to fans, he knew he had millions of dollars in
> endorsement money at risk, and from what I understand he was raised
> understanding the value of honesty and morality. =A0If his world caves
> in on him it is because he knocked the props out from under it one
> skirt at a time.
>
> So there! =A0I feel better now.
>
> RonB

I couldn't agree more.

Steve Turner wrote:

> I can't understand what was wrong with what he had at home... One of
> the finest looking ladies on the planet if you ask me, and he's out
> tapping anything that comes along? What a dumbass.

That eternal, unanswered, philosophical question: "Is it all really pink
on the inside?"

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Tom Watson wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:41:38 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> RonB wrote:
>>
>>> Just lost control of his zipper!
>> There, but for lack of opportunity, go most of us ....

> Hoggamus higgamus
> Men are polygamous
> Higgamus hoggamus
> Women monogamous
>
> William James
>
>
> Little head does all the thinkin'
> Even more when big head's drinkin'
> Would you get in that one's pants
> Only if you had the chance
>
> Tom Watson
>

Where's C-less? ... we're missing a confirmed bachelor's perspective here?

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"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Robatoy wrote:
>
>> Okay... WhoTF am I kidding? I won't be happy till all my tools are
>> black and green.
>
> I'm tickled thus far ... but I only have the two sanders, the CT22 dust
> extractor, and the FS 75 saw, which is unbelievably handy in a small
> cabinet making shop.
>
> But the fact that there is almost NO dust from any of these tools ...
> sheessh, worth the price of admission alone. Sanded a face frame through
> three grits this afternoon and didn't get a speck of dust on my t-shirt.
>
> I'm ruined forever and spoiled rotten ...


I am certainly glad you are happy with your stuff. ;~) I'da had a hard
time living that one down, specially since the hook was set so deeply. ;~)
I had no idea that you were THAT interested in the Festool line. But as you
said there is no going back.

"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
>
> I knew lots of friends in high school who got married shortly after.
> Ten years later, _every_single_one_ had been divorced at least once.
> Even my sister, the stable one, didn't last quite twenty years.
>
> That was enough proof for me.

If you have the slightest doubt, it is better not to marry. OTOH, I'm going
on 44 years and very happy. Would I do it again with someone else?
Definitely not because while there are many women I like a lot, I'd not want
to marry any of them.

One woman in particular I spend a lot of time with both with and without my
wife. She has been married once and has had a couple of other live in
arrangements but living with her would ruin a good friendship.

Used to be 50% divorce rate but may be higher now.

Pat Barber wrote:

> Thank you...
> The truth is starting to come out.
>

One of the more ironic things in this is the media feeding frenzy,
especially compared to their [non]coverage of one fairly serious
presidential primary contender who engaged in the same kind of behavior with
one of his staff while his wife was fighting cancer, fathered a child, and
then paid to cover it up. Funny thing, the only media to cover it was the
Enquirer, all the other media outlets tried to ignore the story and had be
be dragged, kicking and streaming to even give it some mention.

>
> Swingman wrote:
>> RonB wrote:
>>
>>> Just lost control of his zipper!
>>
>> There, but for lack of opportunity, go most of us ....
>>

--

There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage

Rob Leatham

THE BIG JIM SAGAS

Big Jim is a pseudonym for one of the finest men who ever drew
breath. Big Jim and his wife, Joan
are the kind of people everyone would like to have as a neighbor.
I am telling these tales about
Big Jim out of my belief that they are too good to pass without
remembering. This tale, one of two, was posted here one heck of a
long time ago. Perhaps you'll enjoy it again. . . or for the
first time.
-----------------
Big Jim’s Romance

Big Jim was the type of neighbor that every person wants to have.
He was
the kind of fellow who would come to your house at 4:00 in the
morning, if
you needed help, would loan you any tool that he had in his shop,
would go
out with you to help cut firewood and would help you stack it when
you got
home. His wife and my wife were also best friends. . . with
coffee in the
mornings or shopping in the afternoon. On weekends, if Big Jim
wasn't down
at my house helping me do something, I could usually be found up
at his
house, returning the favor. After around fifteen years of being
friends and neighbors,
you get to know folks really well- you think!

Big Jim was 6 years older than I was, and was approaching his late
40's at the time. He
had married Joan, his high school sweetheart, following his high
school
graduation and had enjoyed over 30 years of marriage. The
marriage had
produced a beautiful daughter, who had just graduated from high
school
herself. Joan and Big Jim had made a warm and welcome home on the
second floor of their
house for Joan's mother, who had lived with them for many, many
years.
Being a kind and good-hearted man, Big Jim thought of Joan's
mother as an
inseparable part of his own family. Big Jim's own mother still
lived on a
farm outside of town, and we were always driving out to spend an
afternoon
at her place. She was a very capable and typical farm woman:
strong as any man and capable of
handling herself in any situation.

My wife and I never observed any change in Big Jim, but the onset
of middle age
had apparently been taking its toll. Big Jim apparently thought
he was
slowing down a little in his love life at home, and I later heard
that Joan
had confided to my wife that Big Jim just wasn't the man had had
been ten
years earlier. Big Jim wasn't the kind of fellow who would give
up anything
easily, and apparently had decided that he could regenerate things
a bit by
having some extracurricular activity.

Working at a large office in town, Big Jim and one of the ladies
at the
office decided that they'd meet for a "few drinks" one Saturday
afternoon. I
honestly don't think that Big Jim had done anything like this in
his 30+
years of marriage, but he and the "new sweetheart" decided that
they'd have
an affair that fateful Saturday afternoon.

The Saturday arrived on a beautiful Spring day, and Big Jim told
Joan that he had to go into work that
afternoon to clean up some paperwork- not at all unusual activity
for him.
Instead, he drove to the appointed motel, where he met "Suzy" in
the bar.
They had 3-4 drinks and then checked into a room. This was where
Big Jim
made the biggest mistake in his life!

Do you remember me mentioning earlier that Big Jim and Joan had a
beautiful
daughter, who had just graduated from high school? Well, Big Jim
had
overlooked the simple fact that his daughter had just started her
new job. . .
SHE WAS NOW THE 3:00p-11:00p ROOM CLERK AT THE SAME
MOTEL WHERE BIG JIM HAD JUST CHECKED IN WITH SUSY.

Now, my friends, here is where the sad-but-true tale becomes
exciting. For those of you who may be sensitive or deplore
violence, just move on, since from here on, it gets ugly.

Big Jim and "Suzy" had just retired to the room when his daughter
came on
duty. The daughter looked over the new check-ins and saw that a
person with her
own father's name had checked into the motel about a half hour
earlier. As
a matter of fact, the person had used the same address as her
father, had
signed the register in the same handwriting as her father and had
paid with
a credit card with the same number as the one she had in her own
purse! It seems that poor Big Jim had been drinking, and drinking
too much to use common sense.

The daughter was very concerned, and even asked the outgoing room
clerk if he
remembered the arrival in question. He did, and described both
Big Jim and
his "wife." Since the daughter certainly had different ideas of
her mother's
description and was convinced that she only had one mother waiting
for her at
home, she became skeptical of her Dad's intentions in checking
into the motel.
To assuage that skepticism, she did what any evil, no good, rotten
daughter would do: she called her
mother at home and asked her, Where is Daddy?" When Daddy's
itinerary he had
left with her mother failed to anticipate his checking into the
hotel, both
mother and daughter came to the same unfortunate conclusion. . .
and Hell was
to soon be close at hand for my best friend.

The following was assembled as a series of fractured and
fragmented tales told
to both me and my wife on a number of different occasions
over the weeks
following that fateful assignation. Frequently, it was
necessary for my good
wife and me to compare our "notes" on the tales, since they
were usually
related to us with a great deal of crying, shouting or
requiring an occasional
bribe of Jack Daniel’s to spark the memory <grin>.

About an hour after checking in, Big Jim was "relaxing" in the
room with Suzy
when there was a knock on the door. Thinking that it was
housekeeping, he
approached the door with a towel wrapped around his waist and
opened the door
part way. There, standing in the hallway, was his daughter, his
wife,
his own mother and his mother-in-law. The four ladies then pushed
the door the
remainder of the way open and entered the room to discuss Big
Jim's indiscretions and his future.
There is a saying that, "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned,"
and I guess that
on that fateful afternoon, Big Jim learned that applied to ALL the
women in his
life, and not just his wife.

The sweetheart, Suzy, sharing the room with Big Jim, ran out the
patio door
wearing nothing but a panicked expression, but grabbing her purse
and clothes
on the way out. She got in her car and drove away, totally naked,
but unharmed-
leaving poor Big Jim to try to explain to these four irate women
what he had been doing
at the motel. Whenever I hear the old joke; "Who are you going to
believe- me or
your lying eyes?", I think of poor Big Jim. Suzy’s escape was of
no concern to the
four women, since they had far bigger game on their minds.

The police were never called, but it was almost an hour before the
four women in
Big Jim's life paused long enough for him to even get dressed.
Later, my wife told
me some of the things Joan said had happened, such as Big Jim's
own mother ripping
away even his towel, so that, "He had nothing to hide behind,"
and the four women
tossing him into the cold water shower to "wash the sin and filth
away," . . . Frankly, I
didn't even want to hear that, and the image still haunts my mind.

That evening, Joan called my wife to tell her what happened, and
that she
was throwing Big Jim out. Even as they talked, Big Jim arrived at
my house, chuffing
into my garage on his garden tractor and towing his trailer. Big
Jim's eyes were
puffed almost shut, he had a long scrape on his face and he
generally looked like hell.
The trailer was absolutely loaded with every power and hand tool
that Big Jim
could put in it; he wanted to know if it'd be OK to store his
tools in my
garage. We ended up making 5 more trips up to Big Jim's house
that night
with both of our tractors/trailers to clean out his closet and
workshop of
power tools, guns and golf clubs. All the time, the four women at
Big Jim's
home were outside and freely expressing their dissatisfaction with
his actions
of that afternoon. I was even verbally abused because, "I was his
best
friend and should have known what he was going to do." At my own
home, my good
wife of many years would deride poor Big Jim whenever we were
unloading his worldly possessions into my garage.

For any of you who might be wondering, all this took place over 25
years ago.
Following the incident, Big Jim did the appropriate amount of
crying, begging
and pleading, and by the following weekend, he had emptied my
garage again and had moved himself and his tools
back into his house. I'm happy to say that while the incident was
never
forgotten, the pain and anguish eventually diminished.

From the incident, there are at least a couple things that I
learned that deserve to be shared with fellow
husbands and readers of this essay:

1) If you plan on having extracurricular marital activity,
consider portable
tools, such as the Delta Contractor's saw and not a Unisaw. It is
easier to
move them if you get caught

2) Always remember where your daughter is working







--
Nonny

ELOQUIDIOT (n) A highly educated, sophisticated,
and articulate person who has absolutely no clue
concerning what they are talking about.
The person is typically a media commentator or politician.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> "CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> If other sports are any indication, his current problems won't hurt him a
>> bit.
>
> He'd maybe have a tougher time if he killed a dog or bit an ear off someone,
> but screwing around has become acceptable behavior for sports and Hollywood
> types.
>
>
...and most everybody else. If not in fact, at least in dreams.

Robatoy wrote:

> Okay... WhoTF am I kidding? I won't be happy till all my tools are
> black and green.

I'm tickled thus far ... but I only have the two sanders, the CT22 dust
extractor, and the FS 75 saw, which is unbelievably handy in a small
cabinet making shop.

But the fact that there is almost NO dust from any of these tools ...
sheessh, worth the price of admission alone. Sanded a face frame through
three grits this afternoon and didn't get a speck of dust on my t-shirt.

I'm ruined forever and spoiled rotten ...

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On 12/10/09 4:10 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
> surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
> professional golf.
>

http://i45.tinypic.com/11hys7s.jpg

Happy now?
;-)
--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

Robatoy wrote:
> On Dec 17, 1:49 pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Dec 16, 3:15 pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Does just looking count?
>>>> ;)
>>> Yikes!!
>>> No way! If it did, I would have been boiled in oil and my hide tacked
>>> to a barn. I don't think there is any limit to appreciating the fine
>>> form of a woman, nor should there be.
>>> I do love summer time and the old fashioned sun dresses...
>> To me there is nothing sexier than a good looking woman in a sun dress,
>> and the dresses do appear to making a come back.
>>
>> AAMOF, Leon and I both got caught watching one at a local outdoor
>> concert in the neighborhood park a year or so ago ... a vision of
>> loveliness, she was!
>>
>> Right, Leon? :)
>>
>> Gotta get to the shop and find a project to sand, that new Rotex is just
>> itching to be fondled!
>>
>> (thought I'd NEVER say that!!) :)
>>
>
> 'Twas jus' a matter of time, bro'.
>
> Now, see if you can get your hands on some Abranet (use the Mirka
> protector pad)....

Gotta give that a try ... heard you talk about it to Leon, but it was
too rich for my blood at the time.

Now that I've got a jones, I'll pay more attention.

you'll think you've died and gone to heaven....
> okay.. that may be overstating it a bit.

For that, I had hoped to be playing bass in a three piece with SRV.

> BTW, I just ran into a guy who was using a Festool jigsaw on an
> installation. I finally told him to shut-the-hell-up-about-it-already.
> LOL

Know the feeling ... this stuff is talk worthy to a fault.

> Oh... and that 2000 watt router?

Yeah? Tell me more ... never mind, need to let the wallet get over its
shock for a while.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
> surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
> professional golf.
>
> Lew
>
>
>
Eh? Something happened to Billy Casper???

"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Steve Turner wrote:
>
>> I can't understand what was wrong with what he had at home... One of the
>> finest looking ladies on the planet if you ask me, and he's out tapping
>> anything that comes along? What a dumbass.
>
> That eternal, unanswered, philosophical question: "Is it all really pink
> on the inside?"
>

Don't know, but willing to do the research.

RonB wrote:
> On Dec 10, 3:10 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
>> surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
>> professional golf.
>>
>> Lew
>
>> "What's to say? Tiger is the victim here......"
>
>> "Give the guy a break. After all that effort and sacrifice......"
>
> He's the victim? Good grief! What about wife, family and maybe even
> the folks who work for him, not to mention the public who adored him.
> He WAS among the few very big personalities that parents could point
> to and say "Look at that guy. He has made it big in life and kept his
> head straight." If even some of the stuff starting to surface now is
> true, he has been hitting on every thing in sight.
>
> Don't expect a Boo Hoo here. The guy knew he had a family, he knew he
> had obligations to fans, he knew he had millions of dollars in
> endorsement money at risk, and from what I understand he was raised
> understanding the value of honesty and morality. If his world caves
> in on him it is because he knocked the props out from under it one
> skirt at a time.
>

Doesn't matter. As I said earlier, the Limbic System is in control, not the
rational mind. Suppose you're carrying a baby in your arms. Further suppose,
as you're walking down the street, a giant of a do-bad jumps in front of you
and starts shooting at you with a pistol! In your fright, you drop the baby
and it's injured. Who's to blame? You?

Suppose you see someone beating on the one you love. You intervene and get
hurt. Who's to blame for your injuries? You?

Suppose you're on the verge of starvation and someone tosses what you know
to be a laxative-laced hamburger. You nearly die from bowel distress. Who's
responsible for your pain? You?

I don't think Tiger can be blamed for doing what comes naturally. If we
search the depths of our souls, if we apply the "rational man" test, we'll
agree that Tiger was the one most abused.

My sainted grandfather once gave me a bit of useless advice: "Sonny," he
said to me, "don't cull cunt."

I say his advice was useless because it can't be done.

> On, and speaking of getting screwed, did I tell you guys about the
> 64GB thumb drive I ordered from China? It came in today and it's a
> Sony. Beautiful little thing. It's marked 64GB and shows that to the
> operating system, but it only holds about 4 gigs. I'd shoot the
> little commie bastid who sold it to me but he's all the way around the
> world. Now to see if eBay or Paypal will refund my fees...


Any ammo left having shot yourself in the foot already?

Dave in Houston

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
> surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
> professional golf.
>

What's to say? Tiger is the victim here. He's lost his family, his job, the
public's respect, and a great deal of his fortune. How much worse could it
get!

Why do you think Muslims dress their women in bags? They recognize that
women have the power over the male limbic system*. In the case of Woods,
these ten or twenty tarts probably smiled at him and he was undone!

Lest you think I exaggerate, there ARE women who collect trophies: some
collect actors, some collect millionaires, some collect just any celebrity.
There are even trollops who collect astronauts!

Pray for poor Tiger. Sniff.

-------
* The limbic system - the so-called reptilian brain - is responsible for the
four "F's" of primal human activity: Flight, Fight, Feeding, and
Reproduction.

"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> RonB wrote:
>
>> Just lost control of his zipper!
>
> There, but for lack of opportunity, go most of us ....

Exactly. About 98% of his target audience ENVY his predicament. As
recently as 20 years ago I might have!

Dave in Houston

"Tom Watson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:41:38 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>RonB wrote:
>>
>>> Just lost control of his zipper!
>>
>>There, but for lack of opportunity, go most of us ....
>
>
>
>
>
> Hoggamus higgamus
> Men are polygamous
> Higgamus hoggamus
> Women monogamous
>
> William James
>
>
> Little head does all the thinkin'
> Even more when big head's drinkin'
> Would you get in that one's pants
> Only if you had the chance
>
> Tom Watson

They all look good at closing time.

Dave in Houston

"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I can't understand what was wrong with what he had at home... One of the
> finest looking ladies on the planet if you ask me, and he's out tapping
> anything that comes along? What a dumbass.
>


Simplistic answers:

Female: Why did you have sex with that woman?
Male: Because I never saw her naked.

The guy also traveled quite a bit and good looking wife was home with kids,
horny guy wanted humping.

Female: Did you love her?
Male: Love??? I didn't even know her name.

Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:


>
>
> Little head does all the thinkin'
> Even more when big head's drinkin'
> Would you get in that one's pants
> Only if you had the chance
>
> Tom Watson

Very nice, I'm going to start the Pulitzer buzz for 2010.

I came across this two nights ago in my bedtime reading:

"...many men are goats and can't help committing adultery when they get a
chance; whereas there are numbers of men who, by temperament, can keep
their purity and let an opportunity go by if the woman lacks in
attractiveness."

Mark Twain, in "Letters from the Earth"


Says it all, doncha think?

Scott

Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote in news:9a304050-1085-45b3-97e7-
[email protected]:

> On Dec 11, 8:53 am, RonB <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Dec 10, 3:10 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
>> > surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
>> > professional golf.
>>
>> > Lew
>> >  "What's to say? Tiger is the victim here......"
>> > "Give the guy a break. After all that effort and sacrifice......"
>>
>> He's the victim?  Good grief!  What about wife, family and maybe even
>> the folks who work for him, not to mention the public who adored him.
>> He WAS among the few very big personalities that parents could point
>> to and say "Look at that guy. He has made it big in life and kept his
>> head straight."  If even some of the stuff starting to surface now is
>> true, he has been hitting on every thing in sight.
>>
>> Don't expect a Boo Hoo here.  The guy knew he had a family, he knew he
>> had obligations to fans, he knew he had millions of dollars in
>> endorsement money at risk, and from what I understand he was raised
>> understanding the value of honesty and morality.  If his world caves
>> in on him it is because he knocked the props out from under it one
>> skirt at a time.
>>
>> So there!  I feel better now.
>>
>> RonB
>
> I couldn't agree more.

I second that thought.

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in news:2b3a15af-
[email protected]:

> On Dec 11, 4:26 pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> SNIP of total bullshit.
>
>> Nope, not his fault.
>
> I hope that was an attempt at humor, or just a bored trolling
> response.
>
> I hope you understand that you are not a dog, but designed as a
> thinking being. You can easily check by counting the number of legs
> you have as well as whether you lick the dried piss off the end of
> your pecker.
>
> I would love to hear you explain to a female in your family (say a
> daughter for instance) that it was just fine, no big deal for her
> husband to fuck some bar trash. "No big deal baby, he saw the old axe
> wound and there was nothing he could do. He was powerless to stop
> following his pecker. Hell, I've done it all my life...."
>
> Yeah. Uh huh. I'm sure their respect for you wouldn't be diminished,
> and certainly that would make your loved ones feel good about you.
>
> Aren't some of you guys that think this is no big deal the ones that
> were ready to blindfold and shoot Clinton for pounding old Pudgy in
> The White House? Not to mention ruining a perfectly good cigar?
>
> No one gives a shit what you do when you are divorced, separated,
> single, widowed, or who or how many you do it with.
>
> So we will use your idea and say that men are powerless when
> confronted with a look at a biscuit. Then as with Tiger all bets are
> off. All promises are gone, and all contracts void.
>
> Take the bitch out of the equation. No one made Tiger get married.
> But part of marriage and acting like a grown up is to keep your word.
> Now for you I see it is OK to lie to your wife. But how about Tiger's
> own, personal integrity? He compromised himself, his integrity, and
> his honesty. HE pledged those things, and if he can't be true to his
> wife, he should at least be true to himself.
>
> My old man always told me "you better watch what you do in your life;
> remember, you will have to look yourself in the eye every single
> morning when you shave.... make sure you can do it".
>
> I guess if you have no personal integrity (yup - set the bitch and
> your promises aside) then it isn't a problem. After all, in your
> world, it's as innocent as two dogs screwing in front you and your
> kiddos; no harm and no foul since they simply can't do any better.
>
> I can understand that in dogs. But I am not cut from that cloth. As
> a man, I do my best to keep my word, and my oath of fidelity.
>
> Going strictly to his business image, I can't imagine how his sponsors
> feel. They have paid him millions and millions for his squeaky clean
> image. He is the one that built that image. His product/image is one
> of integrity, hard work, dedication to one's self and craft, and that
> of a dedicated family man "raised with old fashioned values". He and
> his marketing machine created that image for the sponsors.
>
> How do you think they feel now? (HINT: no TW commercials have run
> since 24 hours after the "accident"). They bought a product as surely
> as someone buys a car, a house, or a barbecue pit. They bought the
> image that Tiger and his managers created. Unlike Charles Barkley,
> Kurt Nowitski and others who made it clear they were not role models
> and didn't want to be, Tiger welcomed it with open arms.
>
> So what about Tiger the product? Since he has now not only screwed
> all that skank, how about the screwing he has given his sponsors?
> Remember, Tiger is a product in the business world, a product sold on
> the image he himself created with his staff of marketers. Should they
> get their money back?
>
> I can't imagine trying to sell your logic to a board of directors.
> Explaining how their investment was lost simply because some bink
> showed him her box and he lost control because of his genetic
> imperative probably wouldn't go far. Imagine building a marketing
> campaign built around him only to find he can't keep his pant zipped.
>
> And for the love of Pete. I have known a lot of guys (and plenty of
> women) that cheat on their spouses. But they are discreet. They
> don't screw road whores picked up in bars, the trash along the side of
> the road left by other celebrities or worse, porn stars that will do
> anything to further their career. How stupid could this guy get?
>
> You don't think half of the rich and famous guys in this world have a
> little cum dumpster waiting for them somewhere? Someone that is paid
> so well, so well vetted, and so separate from the rest of their world
> they can do their "stuff " for years without getting caught? If they
> ever do?
>
> And that idiot is sending emails, texts, leaving voicemails, etc. All
> dutifully recorded by those little spooge monkeys for their further
> use.
>
> A reputable madam with reputable girls that kept shut would have done
> the trick. Everyone would have been happy except the wife he was
> making a fool of, and the kids he was lying to.
>
> "No... Daddy can't come home. He has to work late today, again. He's
> working on getting a little more out of his wood(s)..."
>
> What an idiot.
>
> We obviously look at the world in a much different fashion. I am not
> so high toned and and esoteric in thought as to consider reversing
> evolution to put my own personal habits in with those of barking
> dogs.
>
> If there was absolutely no other reason, I would not cheat because I
> wouldn't be true to myself. My oath to someone else is secondary.
> There have been times when my integrity seems to be all I had.
>
> But the biggest reasons would be two things: all the hurt it creates
> (like a mushroom cloud), some of it permanent; and the fact that
> 99.999% of women just aren't worth the trouble they cause.
>
> Some of the best advice I ever got about that subject I received as a
> teen from a guy that had a couple of broken marriages under his belt.
> He knew I like whiskey and bars.
>
> "Watch what you do with those women, Robert. A whiskey glass and a
> whore's ass can make fool out of any man".
>
> Maybe Tiger should have started his life digging ditches and sweeping
> floors with me.
>
> Robert
>

Robert,

As always, very well said. I could not agree with you more.

Steve

Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:05:01 -0500, the infamous
> FrozenNorth
><[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>>On 12/12/09 10:36 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:15:09 -0600, the infamous Swingman
>>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>>
>>>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On, and speaking of getting screwed, did I tell you
>>>>> guys about the 64GB thumb drive I ordered from China?
>>>>> It came in today and it's a Sony. Beautiful little
>>>>> thing. It's marked 64GB and shows that to the
>>>>> operating system, but it only holds about 4 gigs. I'd
>>>>> shoot the little commie bastid who sold it to me but
>>>>> he's all the way around the world. Now to see if eBay
>>>>> or Paypal will refund my fees...
>>>>
>>>> Will it format?
>>>
>>> From a DOS window in XP, no. It says that FAT32 doesn't
>>> support that
>>> size. I wonder if I could tell it to try NTFS. It's been
>>> a long time since I did DOS level work.
>>>
>>> Suggestions from the peanut gallery are cheerfully
>>> accepted.
>>>
>>Just right click on the drive from "My Computer", hit the
>>format option and see what happens.
>
> Nothing. It just closes the window instead of formatting.
>
A quick Google search returned this. Sorry for the wrap...
http://reviews.ebay.ie/BEWARE-of-FAKE-16GB-32GB-64GB-USB-
Flash-Drives-on-eBay_W0QQugidZ10000000001236067

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in news:459d83d2-
[email protected]:

> On Dec 16, 12:55 pm, Pat Barber <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thank you...
>> The truth is starting to come out.
>
>> > There, but for lack of opportunity, go most of us ....
>
> Really? Can you really say that if you had a wife, family, two kids,
> a great business that could set you and a several generations of your
> family up for life you would be out screwing bar trash and porn stars?
>
> Hell, after boinking a couple of cum catchers from the porn industry,
> would you really go home and screw your wife or girlfriend? Could you
> look her in the eye while you were doing it?
>
> Wouldn't you at least try to find a discreet set of fellow playmates?
> Would you really hit bar maids, porn stars and unemployed actresses?
>
> I have noticed in this thread that I seem to be quite a bit more old
> fashioned personally, more provincial than the forward thinking,
> liberal, understanding minds that are in this group. I have really
> noticed a difference my personal beliefs than some of those expressed
> here.
>
> As a sidebar, I would love to be a fly on the wall if your own son in
> law was trying to explain to you why he screwed 10 - 15 girls in the
> first five years of a brand new marriage, especially since she was
> pregnant for about a year and a half of that time.
>
> I have noticed that when situations become personal, forward thinking
> and learned esoteric ideals mean little. Would you honestly tell your
> own daughter that as many as >>15<< other long term cum buckets in
> their marriage was just fine? Could you look your daughter in the eye
> and tell her that? Or could you tell her that it was all OK because
> men do things like that just they have an opportunity, or they were
> "tempted"?
>
> Here's a better question, Pat. And to anyone that wants to respond.
>
> This is a serious question. Here's a chance for any of you to man up,
> "old school" style. Use plain language that a relic like myself can
> understand.
>
> Pat, or anyone else, would you screw a couple of different women a
> year on a regular basis if you simply had the chance to do so?
>
> No need to respond if you aren't married or in a committed
> relationship. No one cares. Collect all the scalps you want and
> weave a blanket out of them for all I care.
>
> But I would love to see the cloying, obtuse comments about the human
> condition regarding the male of the species replaced with a solid
> "Yeah, I'd hit that biscuit <any time> on anyone that I had a chance
> to, any time I wanted to as long as it was a target of opportunity. I
> can't be asked to control myself. That's what guys like us do. As
> long as it's offered, I'll stuff it."
>
> Anybody gonna man up and come out and say it? Lots of cute dancing
> around, a few university style platitudes about temptation and the
> human condition have been posted. But none of the usual clear, in
> your face brassiness has been displayed by the "don't ask me what I
> think if you don't want to know" group here.
>
> Too much cute tiptoeing. Grow a pair, and show them off.
>
> Surely many of those here have plenty of opportunities to knock off a
> piece when they want. I sure do. (But I sure don't). But if it
> truly isn't a big deal to you, I am sure your lifestyle is phrased
> that way, so just admitting it shouldn't be a big deal.
>
> So.... who will man up? Who will say, I am doing "that" now, or I
> sure would be screwing as many women as I could if I had the
> opportunity myself?
>
> Love to see some of the more modern thinking folks come out and say
> they are doing more than working their mouths, here. I would like to
> see just how many people here believe enough in what they say to
> confirm they live their personal lives the same way.
>
> Robert

Robert,

After leaving a disastrous relationship, I met my wife. We have been
married 25 years. There have been many women that I could have pursued,
but have never even given them a second thought. Just not worth it. When
you find a "gold nugget", you don't toss it away for a bigger one that
might just turn out to be "fools gold".

"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm surprised
> nothing has surfaced about the number one player in professional golf.
>
> Lew
>

Arnie's in trouble??? :)

Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> On, and speaking of getting screwed, did I tell you guys about the
> 64GB thumb drive I ordered from China? It came in today and it's a
> Sony. Beautiful little thing. It's marked 64GB and shows that to the
> operating system, but it only holds about 4 gigs. I'd shoot the
> little commie bastid who sold it to me but he's all the way around the
> world. Now to see if eBay or Paypal will refund my fees...

4GB is the normal FAT32 limit. You can get around this in several ways:

1. Reformat the drive with 64Mb sector sizes.

2. Reformat with NTFS. You've said in other responses that the drive won't
format NTFS.

That is VERY hard to believe.

RonB wrote:

> Just lost control of his zipper!

There, but for lack of opportunity, go most of us ....

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On Dec 12, 1:27 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:

> Tiger Woods is a fraud. Plain and simple. What a selfish asshole. And
> now he's making sure that all those people who put him in all those
> tournaments, benefitting local economies, etc. are getting screwed
> too. Pondscum.

I agree. If the guy was single, I wouldn't care if he hung enough
hides on his wall to make a full sized teepee.

This wouldn't be as bad if there weren't so many trashy women
involved. This wouldn't be nearly as bad as if the manufacturer of
the TW image product wasn't such a profound hypocrite.

If it were one chickie... well... I could cut the guy some slack. No
one is perfect. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone does stoopid
stuff. But 12???

They just made 5 years of marriage in October. So that means more
than a couple of chicks a year (not coital incidents with all of them)
in just that short time.

Say half those skanks are lying. I wouldn't be surprised... but that
would still be one new porn start/waitress a year since the very first
year of marriage! He was NEVER a man of his word.

Again, say it had just been one. He could have blamed "demon
alcohol", the old "go to" excuse. He could have said that screwing a
lot of road whores was the only way he could deal with his father's
death. He could have been horrified, sad, and disappointed in
himself.

Jesse Jackson would have offered to come by for counsel, as he did
with Clinton. He could lay low a bit, then in another marketing coup,
go on Oprah to apologize to women everywhere. She could have explored
the relationship with his father, and "after the break" ask him what
his own mother thought. He could have been tearful; choked up; unable
to finish...

He might write a short book on "being human" and admit that everyone,
even him, makes mistakes. He would talk about what he learned
(probably not what he learned from the porn stars though), and how
much more he needed to learn to be the man he should be.

His ratings on the TV golf matches would go up as it would be
considered "brave" that he "battled though great personal hardship"
and "faced a tough decision to go on" playing the game of golf. Even
though he cheated on his wife and lied to his kids, he would be a hero
to many because he did it and would most certainly get away with it.

The marketing machines would have made him bigger and better, because
they now had a flaw, a flaw that would make many relate to him. A
totally new angle for a more adult, human TW that acknowledged the
frailty of the human condition. They could spin this situation into
several million more a year, no doubt.

But 5, 6, 12 different girls that appear to be little more than goo
receptacles? Tough sledding, no doubt. Not much spin room to sell
around that many. Thankfully for him, he has the hundreds of millions
needed to repair his image.

I live in hope of our modern society and our generosity of forgiving
sports figures that lie to us. I am sure TW will be fine. If Michael
Vick can come back and play football in a league that has a morality
and behavior clause in its contracts, then TW is certainly safe.

Which one is more repugnant? Vick strangled, hung, electrocuted and
tortured wounded (from his staged fights) and sick animals. Some of
the underperformers in his fight club were summarily drowned while
beer guzzling morons watched (and taped!) with glee.

I thought Vick did a lot worse things than Woods, and he is just
fine. Already, he is looking for a new team! Like Tiger, all he
needs to do is get a few wins behind him and he will be just fine.

Naw... I'm not worried about TW. But he deserves everything he gets
now, and probably more.

I wonder how many women there really is at this point. I remember
watching George Stephanopoulos talking about his days as Clinton's
policy and strategy advisor, and the reason he decided to leave.

In essence:
He said the first woman came forward, and we were shocked, but he told
us it was all lies and we believed him. The second one came forward,
and we were outraged as we thought it was a politcal move to hurt the
President. Then the third one came along.... and a forth.... it was
like watching the dam come apart. No one could break the credibility
of these women, and we couldn't stop the flood.

Very astutely, GS admitted that he wondered how many there actually
were, since a couple of Clinton's dalliances really didn't want the
spotlight and had no agenda. And as badly treated as all of those
women were in the press (until the offer to test the DNA of the famous
blue dress called Clinton's hand), he always wondered how many were
out there that simply kept quiet.

Personally, I hope TW goes away and stays away for awhile. I don't
want to know anymore or hear anymore about him.

We will have plenty of the new, rebuilt, humble TW part 2 soon enough.

Robert

Larry Jaques wrote:

> From a DOS window in XP, no. It says that FAT32 doesn't support that
> size. I wonder if I could tell it to try NTFS. It's been a long time
> since I did DOS level work.
>
> Suggestions from the peanut gallery are cheerfully accepted.

NTFS is definitely the way to go ...don't worry about doing it at DOS
level as you don't want to use fdisk anyway, let Windows have a shot,
nothing to lose since you're returning it in any event.

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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Steve Turner wrote:
>>
>>> I can't understand what was wrong with what he had at home... One of the
>>> finest looking ladies on the planet if you ask me, and he's out tapping
>>> anything that comes along? What a dumbass.
>> That eternal, unanswered, philosophical question: "Is it all really pink
>> on the inside?"
>>
>
> Don't know, but willing to do the research.

That ready willingness is the topic under discussion ... in case you
haven't noticed! <G>

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Larry Jaques wrote:


> On, and speaking of getting screwed, did I tell you guys about the
> 64GB thumb drive I ordered from China? It came in today and it's a
> Sony. Beautiful little thing. It's marked 64GB and shows that to the
> operating system, but it only holds about 4 gigs. I'd shoot the
> little commie bastid who sold it to me but he's all the way around the
> world. Now to see if eBay or Paypal will refund my fees...

Will it format?

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On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:10:23 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
>surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
>professional golf.
>
>Lew
>
>


That would be because his name is Woods, which means that it would be
on topic, which means that it is inappropriate for discussion in this
thread.


thank you.






Regards,

Tom Watson
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:15:09 -0600, the infamous Swingman
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>
>> On, and speaking of getting screwed, did I tell you guys about the
>> 64GB thumb drive I ordered from China? It came in today and it's a
>> Sony. Beautiful little thing. It's marked 64GB and shows that to the
>> operating system, but it only holds about 4 gigs. I'd shoot the
>> little commie bastid who sold it to me but he's all the way around the
>> world. Now to see if eBay or Paypal will refund my fees...
>
>Will it format?

From a DOS window in XP, no. It says that FAT32 doesn't support that
size. I wonder if I could tell it to try NTFS. It's been a long time
since I did DOS level work.

Suggestions from the peanut gallery are cheerfully accepted.

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"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Steve Turner wrote:
>
>> I can't understand what was wrong with what he had at home... One of the
>> finest looking ladies on the planet if you ask me, and he's out tapping
>> anything that comes along? What a dumbass.
>
> That eternal, unanswered, philosophical question: "Is it all really pink
> on the inside?"
>

Followed by "Does it all really look the same upside down?

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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>
> Really? Can you really say that if you had a wife, family, two kids,
> a great business that could set you and a several generations of your
> family up for life you would be out screwing bar trash and porn stars?
>
>
> I have noticed in this thread that I seem to be quite a bit more old
> fashioned personally, more provincial than the forward thinking,
> liberal, understanding minds that are in this group. I have really
> noticed a difference my personal beliefs than some of those expressed
> here.
>

Felt the same way when I read many of the responses. I'm not big on
condemming people, or on cackling like a bunch of old hens over everything
that hits the news, but I'm equally not big on forsaking the values I've
built my family and my life on. No - I wouldn't pound any or every one of
those "opportunities", just because I could. I wouldn't for any reason.
That's part of what my marriage vows are all about. I'll take it a step
further... After what is coming upon 29 years of marriage, my wife is still
the most attractive woman in the world to me. Still get that heart flutter
when she walks into the room. Don't need, don't want and wouldn't accept
any woman in her place. Don't have any respect for those people who thrash
their vows just because an opportunity comes their way.

>
> Surely many of those here have plenty of opportunities to knock off a
> piece when they want. I sure do. (But I sure don't). But if it
> truly isn't a big deal to you, I am sure your lifestyle is phrased
> that way, so just admitting it shouldn't be a big deal.
>
> So.... who will man up? Who will say, I am doing "that" now, or I
> sure would be screwing as many women as I could if I had the
> opportunity myself?
>

Can't be the guy to say that. It's just completely contrary to everything
that I am.


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"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, "Lew Hodgett"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
>>surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
>>professional golf.
>
> Until now, that is.


If other sports are any indication, his current problems won't hurt him a
bit.

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:03:10 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> scrawled the following:

>In article <[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
><novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:34:41 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone
>> <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> scrawled the following:
>>
>> >In article <[email protected]>, Lew Hodgett
>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
>> >> surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
>> >> professional golf.
>> >>
>> >> Lew
>> >
>> ><http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-12-08/harem-managem
>> >ent-101/?cid=hp:beastoriginalsL1>
>>
>> Dayam! I'll take Tracy Quan. What a babe! She's twice as cute as
>> anything Tiger's tappin'.
>>
>> Oh, she's a former high-class hooker. No wonder. She's yet another,
>> and quite different, American success story, isn't she?
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracy_Quan
>
>She may have been born in the untied skates, but she grew up and
>blossomed here in canuckistan, C-less.
>
>Ours, she is.
>
>She was oft interviewed on public radio here when her book first came
>out, and I was impressed with her matter-of-fact discussion about her
>time as a prostitute. She didn't pull any punches, but she never went
>for the sympathy card, nor did she try to glamourize.

I want her back!

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Lew Hodgett wrote:
> With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
> surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
> professional golf.
>

I've seen a lot in other venues. Strangely, however, only one article
placing the blame where it really belongs:

Wait for it now...

Tiger's wife.

Yes, a husband doesn't diddle multiple trollops in every city with a putting
green without the wife knowing or at least "knowing." That she didn't say or
do something, such as shooting her husband, gave tacit permission and
encouragement to his behavior.

Now she's playing the aggrieved victim. How droll.

On Dec 15, 3:11=A0pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
> > With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
> > surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
> > professional golf.
>
> I've seen a lot in other venues. Strangely, however, only one article
> placing the blame where it really belongs:
>
> Wait for it now...
>
> Tiger's wife.
>
> Yes, a husband doesn't diddle multiple trollops in every city with a putt=
ing
> green without the wife knowing or at least "knowing." That she didn't say=
or
> do something, such as shooting her husband, gave tacit permission and
> encouragement to his behavior.
>
> Now she's playing the aggrieved victim. How droll.

Oh, good grief! I suppose all rape victims' clothing was too
suggestive too. Get a grip on it!

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:42c04973-93dd-4b13-be4e-30309c34c71a@y24g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

>
> Mike - you quoted me as dumping that steaming pile of bullshit on the
> group board. It wasn't me.

Wow - sorry Robert. I thought I had trimmed everything but the HeyBub
attribute. My apologies.

> So.... snip me out next time, eh?
>
> Or else I will tell people you shoot car finishes from a rattle can.
> That oughta put you on notice!! =^0

Shhhhhhhh...

>
> BTW, I agree with everything you said, especially call bullshit where
> it was so deep you couldn't drive a truck out of it.
>

That's because great minds stink alike.

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[email protected] wrote:
....
>
> Really? Can you really say that if you had a wife, family, two kids,
> a great business that could set you and a several generations of your
> family up for life you would be out screwing bar trash and porn stars?
>

Men and women have different reproductive strategies. Females are
biologically programmed to seek the best sperm possible from that which is
available. Males are innately driven to impregnate as many females as
possible. Both these strategies have been evolutionarily selected to garner
the best chance for gene propagation.

To counter these drives, social constraints have to be pretty powerful.

I blame Tiger's wife for not making his home life more attractive or
valuable. Cut off the social mores and the more primitive part of one's
brain takes over.

Consider the exemplar: Here's a chap who's short, wears glasses, not rich
(although certainly 'comfortable'), ugly as a stepped-on toad, and speaks
with a heavy accent. During his time, he dated Barbara Walters, Jill St
John, and many other starlets and opinion leaders (and probably tried to
impregnate them).

Of course being Secretary of State and a winner of the Nobel Peace Prize
probably helped...

[email protected] wrote:

> So.... who will man up? Who will say, I am doing "that" now, or I
> sure would be screwing as many women as I could if I had the
> opportunity myself?

Does just looking count?

;)

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On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:34:41 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> scrawled the following:

>In article <[email protected]>, Lew Hodgett
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
>> surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
>> professional golf.
>>
>> Lew
>
><http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-12-08/harem-managem
>ent-101/?cid=hp:beastoriginalsL1>

Dayam! I'll take Tracy Quan. What a babe! She's twice as cute as
anything Tiger's tappin'.

Oh, she's a former high-class hooker. No wonder. She's yet another,
and quite different, American success story, isn't she?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracy_Quan

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On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:12:59 -0800 (PST), the infamous Robatoy
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>On Dec 11, 10:08 am, Steve Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
>> RonB wrote:
>> > On Dec 11, 7:53 am, RonB <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> On Dec 10, 3:10 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >>> With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
>> >>> surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
>> >>> professional golf.
>> >>> Lew
>> >>>  "What's to say? Tiger is the victim here......"
>> >>> "Give the guy a break. After all that effort and sacrifice......"
>> >> He's the victim?  Good grief!  What about wife, family and maybe even
>> >> the folks who work for him, not to mention the public who adored him.
>> >> He WAS among the few very big personalities that parents could point
>> >> to and say "Look at that guy. He has made it big in life and kept his
>> >> head straight."  If even some of the stuff starting to surface now is
>> >> true, he has been hitting on every thing in sight.
>>
>> >> Don't expect a Boo Hoo here.  The guy knew he had a family, he knew he
>> >> had obligations to fans, he knew he had millions of dollars in
>> >> endorsement money at risk, and from what I understand he was raised
>> >> understanding the value of honesty and morality.  If his world caves
>> >> in on him it is because he knocked the props out from under it one
>> >> skirt at a time.
>>
>> >> So there!  I feel better now.
>>
>> >> RonB
>>
>> > Oh...And by the way he also knew he had a prenuptial agreement.
>>
>> > Just lost control of his zipper!
>>
>> > RonB
>>
>> I can't understand what was wrong with what he had at home...  One of the finest looking
>> ladies on the planet if you ask me, and he's out tapping anything that comes along?  What a
>> dumbass.
>>
>> --
>> Repeat after me:
>> "I am we Todd it.  I am sofa king we Todd it."
>> To reply, eat the taco.http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/
>
>No matter how hot a woman is, somewhere there's some guy who thinks
>she's a bitch.
>Wood's wife 'looks' real pretty..... but that don't mean much. She
>could have 'issues'.

That's why I never married. Looks wear off, personalities come out
which don't always remain matched after the two of you evolve, etc. I
had one very tight girlfriend who I thought might be the one, but she
turned into a raving bitch once we got her on the pill. Her hormones
really kicked in and she was a different person. I watched my parents
divorce (but remarried each other a year later.)

I knew lots of friends in high school who got married shortly after.
Ten years later, _every_single_one_ had been divorced at least once.
Even my sister, the stable one, didn't last quite twenty years.

That was enough proof for me.

I don't blame Tiger one bit.

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"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm surprised
> nothing has surfaced about the number one player in professional golf.
>
> Lew
>
Hey, give a guy access to a billion dollars and people
worshipping at his feet and he is bound to go bad...

This is sounding oddly familiar.

basilisk

In article <[email protected]>, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
>surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
>professional golf.

Until now, that is.

In article <[email protected]>, novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com wrote:

>Oh, she's a former high-class hooker.

Oxymoron.

RonB wrote:
> On Dec 11, 7:53 am, RonB <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Dec 10, 3:10 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
>>> surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
>>> professional golf.
>>> Lew
>>> "What's to say? Tiger is the victim here......"
>>> "Give the guy a break. After all that effort and sacrifice......"
>> He's the victim? Good grief! What about wife, family and maybe even
>> the folks who work for him, not to mention the public who adored him.
>> He WAS among the few very big personalities that parents could point
>> to and say "Look at that guy. He has made it big in life and kept his
>> head straight." If even some of the stuff starting to surface now is
>> true, he has been hitting on every thing in sight.
>>
>> Don't expect a Boo Hoo here. The guy knew he had a family, he knew he
>> had obligations to fans, he knew he had millions of dollars in
>> endorsement money at risk, and from what I understand he was raised
>> understanding the value of honesty and morality. If his world caves
>> in on him it is because he knocked the props out from under it one
>> skirt at a time.
>>
>> So there! I feel better now.
>>
>> RonB
>
> Oh...And by the way he also knew he had a prenuptial agreement.
>
> Just lost control of his zipper!
>
> RonB

I can't understand what was wrong with what he had at home... One of the finest looking
ladies on the planet if you ask me, and he's out tapping anything that comes along? What a
dumbass.

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Robatoy wrote:
> On Dec 11, 10:08 am, Steve Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
>> RonB wrote:
>>> On Dec 11, 7:53 am, RonB <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Oh...And by the way he also knew he had a prenuptial agreement.
>>> Just lost control of his zipper!
>>> RonB
>> I can't understand what was wrong with what he had at home... One of the finest looking
>> ladies on the planet if you ask me, and he's out tapping anything that comes along? What a
>> dumbass.
>>
>
> No matter how hot a woman is, somewhere there's some guy who thinks
> she's a bitch.
> Wood's wife 'looks' real pretty..... but that don't mean much. She
> could have 'issues'.

True, of course. But damn! :-)

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Steve Turner wrote:
> RonB wrote:
>> On Dec 11, 7:53 am, RonB <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Dec 10, 3:10 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
>>>> surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
>>>> professional golf.
>>>> Lew
>>>> "What's to say? Tiger is the victim here......"
>>>> "Give the guy a break. After all that effort and sacrifice......"
>>> He's the victim? Good grief! What about wife, family and maybe
>>> even the folks who work for him, not to mention the public who
>>> adored him. He WAS among the few very big personalities that
>>> parents could point to and say "Look at that guy. He has made it
>>> big in life and kept his head straight." If even some of the stuff
>>> starting to surface now is true, he has been hitting on every thing
>>> in sight.
>>>
>>> Don't expect a Boo Hoo here. The guy knew he had a family, he knew
>>> he had obligations to fans, he knew he had millions of dollars in
>>> endorsement money at risk, and from what I understand he was raised
>>> understanding the value of honesty and morality. If his world caves
>>> in on him it is because he knocked the props out from under it one
>>> skirt at a time.
>>>
>>> So there! I feel better now.
>>>
>>> RonB
>>
>> Oh...And by the way he also knew he had a prenuptial agreement.
>>
>> Just lost control of his zipper!
>>
>> RonB
>
> I can't understand what was wrong with what he had at home... One of
> the finest looking
> ladies on the planet if you ask me, and he's out tapping anything
> that comes along? What a
> dumbass.

She looks good but in my experience the better they look the harder they are
to live with.

HeyBub wrote:
> Doesn't matter. As I said earlier, the Limbic System is in control, not the
> rational mind. Suppose you're carrying a baby in your arms. Further suppose,
> as you're walking down the street, a giant of a do-bad jumps in front of you
> and starts shooting at you with a pistol! In your fright, you drop the baby
> and it's injured. Who's to blame? You?
>
> Suppose you see someone beating on the one you love. You intervene and get
> hurt. Who's to blame for your injuries? You?
>
> Suppose you're on the verge of starvation and someone tosses what you know
> to be a laxative-laced hamburger. You nearly die from bowel distress. Who's
> responsible for your pain? You?

So Elin would have to be withholding favors from Tiger (for a LONG damn time) in order for
your scenarios to match his situation. Tiger would have to be utterly starved for sex and
out of his mind for his limbic system to override his rational mind... Something tells me
that's probably not true.

> I don't think Tiger can be blamed for doing what comes naturally. If we
> search the depths of our souls, if we apply the "rational man" test, we'll
> agree that Tiger was the one most abused.

Uh yeah no, I can't agree with that. You're basically saying that no man has the will power
to keep it in his pants, and I'd say it's a pretty weak man who can't control his own primal
urges.

It's funny Bub; I wouldn't have thought you'd be among the crowd who thinks a man shouldn't
be held responsible for his own actions...

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HeyBub wrote:
> RonB wrote:
>>> I don't think Tiger can be blamed for doing what comes naturally. If
>>> we search the depths of our souls, if we apply the "rational man"
>>> test, we'll agree that Tiger was the one most abused.
>>>
>> Holy Crap!. I'll just go tell my grand-kids that if they work hard,
>> become successful and make tons of money, its OK to screw around on
>> your family.
>
> Not what I'm saying. All events must take into account two things: The act
> itself and the motivation behind it. Shooting someone in self-defense and
> assassinating someone for hire are two separate offenses even though the
> result is the same. A drowning man is going to grab anything that floats,
> even if it's another person. A Mormon dying of thirst is going to gulp down
> a beer, even a warm beer.
>
> These transgressions must be forgiven for two reasons: The actor lacked the
> requisite mens rea, and the over-arching principle of 'exigent
> circumstances.'
>
> When a dog barks, the dog's just doing what dogs do. When a woman talks
> incessantly about people you don't know and describes what everyone was
> wearing at the local cat show, she's just doing what women do. Neither can
> be faulted for doing that which is part of their nature.
>
> Men and women have different reproductive strategies: The job of the female
> is to get the best sperm possible. The job of the male is to impregnate as
> many females as he can. These are innate, inherited, biological, and
> evolutionary mandates. You violate millions of years of imperatives at
> peril. Further, in all mammals, it is the female that does the choosing of
> mates. What we have here is a number of tarts and strumpets selecting ONE
> male.
>
> Nope, not his fault.

Bub, do you have a confession (or confessions) that you wanna make?

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In article <[email protected]>, Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote:
>Re: Righteous Indignation
[snip]
>
>To those who profess to be without sin and therefore deem themselves
>qualified to cast the first stone - I would suggest that you have not
>been adequately tempted.

"The weakest of all weak things is virtue that has never been tested in the
fire."

I comment to your attention the source of this quotation, a short story by
Mark Twain entitled "The Man Who Corrupted Hadleyburg".

<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Dec 16, 12:55 pm, Pat Barber <[email protected]> wrote:
>
<snip>

> So.... who will man up? Who will say, I am doing "that" now, or I
> sure would be screwing as many women as I could if I had the
> opportunity myself?
>
> Love to see some of the more modern thinking folks come out and say
> they are doing more than working their mouths, here. I would like to
> see just how many people here believe enough in what they say to
> confirm they live their personal lives the same way.
>
> Robert

You won't hear it from me, have been married or in a serious
relationships for 25 yrs and never once have I cheated on a
girlfriend/wife.

And yes, there were plenty of offers. A women that would
knowingly offer herself to a married man is more disgusting
than tempting.

basilisk

"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> So.... who will man up? Who will say, I am doing "that" now, or I
>> sure would be screwing as many women as I could if I had the
>> opportunity myself?
>
> Does just looking count?


I hope not! ; )

"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> So.... who will man up? Who will say, I am doing "that" now, or I
>> sure would be screwing as many women as I could if I had the
>> opportunity myself?
>
> Does just looking count?
>
> ;)

only if it's in your heart

Pat Barber wrote:
> Hmmmm...at least you still have "lust in your heart"
> as one of our famous politicians admitted to.

Flashing on the cartoon that went with that interview--Carter in the hayloft
with Rosalind down below with shotgun.

>
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> In the 70s when they were big, my main squeeze was on the college
>> swim team. She had a body made for those dresses; long, lean,
>> tan....
>>
>> She had no idea that you wore underwear under those dresses. Talk
>> about convenient...
>>
>> *sigh*
>>
>> Robert

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:10:23 -0800, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>With all the other nonsense that gets posted to the wreck, I'm
>surprised nothing has surfaced about the number one player in
>professional golf.
>
>Lew
>
>
Wrong hole, right time?


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"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> AAMOF, Leon and I both got caught watching one at a local outdoor concert
> in the neighborhood park a year or so ago ... a vision of loveliness, she
> was!
>
> Right, Leon? :)

Ahhh Yess that is right.


> Gotta get to the shop and find a project to sand, that new Rotex is just
> itching to be fondled!
>
> (thought I'd NEVER say that!!) :)

Man you got it bad.