Re: eWoodShop - Mission Bar Stool - Seat Frames

woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/23/2013 7:52 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 1/23/2013 6:42 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>
>>>> Ummm ... what is this??
>>> A place to lift my leg and act like a male dog????
>>>>
>>>> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836720276036909474
>>>>
>>
>>
>> It would have be an act ... she often lifts both hind legs at the same
>> time and stands on her front legs to pee. Must have some skunk in there
>> somewhere.
>>
> Ok, now that's a wierd one, doesn't she wet herself that way.

It's not like she's doing a handstand, both hind feet simply levitate about
3 or 4" off the ground at the same time, and she pee's ... like it's no big
deal. You got me ...

> My male dog will squat like a female when there's no tree or other item
> to mark, and that will sometimes get his paw wet...

I'll try to snap a photo. It's pretty hilarious to see. Her back feet also
sometimes come off the floor when she's eating.

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On 1/16/2013 11:58 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 10/27/2012 2:34 PM, Swingman wrote:
>
>> What the hell, you only live once ...
>
> Ready for webbing and upholstery:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5834106345602938562
>
>
>


Well that looks cool! Find your guy yet?

In article <[email protected]>, Swingman
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On 10/27/2012 2:34 PM, Swingman wrote:
>
> > What the hell, you only live once ...
>
> Ready for webbing and upholstery:
>
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#58
> 34106345602938562

As always, superb work.

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"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net> wrote:

> Well, I certainly hoped you got a discount for pulling the needed
> materials out of their scrap bin. ;)

Of course she did ... that what they live for, right.

> I am not color blind, but I might as well be in my house. NOBODY wins a
> color argument with my honey. A total no win situation. She's a quilter
> and know a couple hundred colors by name!
>
> Good looking bar stools. They look good and I am absolutely certain that
> they match something else in the room/house.

Thanks. Yes they do ... Although what, I'm not sure.

> Got a question for you. I noticed that you had 10 curved pieces in
> various pictures. The final result seems to be 4 bar stools (using 8 of
> those curved pieces). That would mean one of two things. a) You have a
> fifth bar stool someplace hiding. (a backup, maybe?) Or b), you used a
> belt and suspenders approach and cut a couple extra pieces just in case
> Murphy paid you a visit. Am I close or is there a mysterious third reason? :)

When doing anything that requires a fussy, time consuming setup that may be
difficult to duplicate, like identically curved and mortised components of
a chair, I try to make at least two extra of each part. Having them on hand
is the only way to insure you won't need them.

I dinged one back leg in the routing, and used one of the front legs for a
project mortise "setup block", so am two legs short of having enough parts
for another stool, But, I also have extra leg blank stock ... who knows
when the muse strikes and I may need a stool for the shop.

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On 1/23/2013 5:42 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 1/23/13 1:06 PM, Swingman wrote:

>> Onward through the fog ...
>
> I ran out of superlatives, long ago, to describe you work. sheesh. :-)

Thanks, Mike ... you're right up there in the woodworking department,
for a drummer. :)

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On 1/24/2013 10:01 AM, -MIKE- wrote:

> Turner and I have had a go at building drums, including the shells. His
> are particularly exquisite. It's really a labor of love, because after
> all the time and effort involved, you would have to charge about $1k to
> make any profit and very few people are interested in a snare drum that
> costs that much.... unless it's from the 20's and all you can to is look
> at it. :-)

I've seen that ... some beautiful work!

It's can also be all about the sound ... I know some guys who will spend
what it takes to get that "holy grail of sound" snare for their
particular music, especially if it records well.

I had an old, originally cheap, "Ringo Star" kit as the house kit the
first studio I built, and later down through the years either had to
turn down offers daily, or keep an eye out that it didn't grow legs.
Both the snare and the kick (with rock dot), recorded at 30ips on 2"
tape, would punch a hole in your chest on playback .... never could
duplicate that sound with any other kit, despite years of trying.

Then, along came digital, and ProTools ... :(

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Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> Upholstered web frames attached.
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836718721007604562
>
> Ummm ... what is this??
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836720276036909474
>
> In designated location ... only took ten years.
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836718095818981458
>
> The general idea behind the madness ...
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836719778850645682
>
> Onward through the fog ...


They look great, The stain turned out nicely. 96 to go! :-)

> On Jan 16, 1:03=A0pm, Dave Balderstone
> As always, superb work.

Take my word for it; the pictures don't do them justice. They even
have a hidden "keyed in" feature that you won't find on most of this
type of furniture.

Seriously, Karl's work is superb. Those frames look like they were
built in a machine shop then finished to look like wood.

Between him and Leon they could give a fella a complex!

Robert

"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> Thanks, Mike ... me being color challenged to the max, Linda picked out
> the upholstery. I brought her along thinking she needed to approve the
> color like she does my ties and socks, and, as luck would have it, and
> ever the nosy female, she went through the upholstery shop's scrap bin and
> found just enough to do the job in her color of choice.
>
Well, I certainly hoped you got a discount for pulling the needed materials
out of their scrap bin. ;)

I am not color blind, but I might as well be in my house. NOBODY wins a
color argument with my honey. A total no win situation. She's a quilter
and know a couple hundred colors by name!

Good looking bar stools. They look good and I am absolutely certain that
they match something else in the room/house.

Got a question for you. I noticed that you had 10 curved pieces in various
pictures. The final result seems to be 4 bar stools (using 8 of those
curved pieces). That would mean one of two things. a) You have a fifth
bar stool someplace hiding. (a backup, maybe?) Or b), you used a belt and
suspenders approach and cut a couple extra pieces just in case Murphy paid
you a visit. Am I close or is there a mysterious third reason? :)

As far as the comfort factor goes, they are bar stools. If you sit long
enough in them to get uncomfortable, pour yourself another drink! Comfort
will be restored.

"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 1/23/2013 7:52 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>>
>>> It would have be an act ... she often lifts both hind legs at the same
>>> time and stands on her front legs to pee. Must have some skunk in there
>>> somewhere.
>>>
>> Ok, now that's a wierd one, doesn't she wet herself that way.
>
> It's not like she's doing a handstand, both hind feet simply levitate
> about
> 3 or 4" off the ground at the same time, and she pee's ... like it's no
> big
> deal. You got me ...
>
>> My male dog will squat like a female when there's no tree or other item
>> to mark, and that will sometimes get his paw wet...
>
> I'll try to snap a photo. It's pretty hilarious to see. Her back feet also
> sometimes come off the floor when she's eating.
>
I have never seen anything like that or heard of it. Maybe she has some
circus dog in her. I bet it causes people to do a double take when they see
that sort of thing.

-MIKE- wrote:

> "boots and belt buckles" lmao! I think you just wrote a country
> song.
----------------------------------------------
Remember the parody about the perfect CW song a few years ago?

It had to contain references to prison, trains, and mama just for
starters.

Lew

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Jan 16, 1:03 pm, Dave Balderstone
>> As always, superb work.
>
> Take my word for it; the pictures don't do them justice. They even
> have a hidden "keyed in" feature that you won't find on most of this
> type of furniture.
>
> Seriously, Karl's work is superb. Those frames look like they were
> built in a machine shop then finished to look like wood.
>
> Between him and Leon they could give a fella a complex!
>
> Robert

Hey... Good to see you!

On 1/23/2013 1:42 PM, Leon wrote:
> Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Upholstered web frames attached.
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836718721007604562
>>
>> Ummm ... what is this??
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836720276036909474
>>
>> In designated location ... only took ten years.
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836718095818981458
>>
>> The general idea behind the madness ...
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836719778850645682
>>
>> Onward through the fog ...
>
>
> They look great, The stain turned out nicely. 96 to go! :-)

CREDITS: Compliments of the "recreational woodworking" group, of the
"commercial kitchen cabinet builders" group. ;)

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KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)

On 1/23/2013 6:06 PM, Mike M wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 13:06:05 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Upholstered web frames attached.
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836718721007604562
>>
>> Ummm ... what is this??
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836720276036909474
>>
>> In designated location ... only took ten years.
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836718095818981458
>>
>> The general idea behind the madness ...
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836719778850645682
>>
>> Onward through the fog ...
>
> Good color match on the upholstery. They really came out nice. Thanks
> for all the pictures you post, it inspires me to head to the shop.

Thanks, Mike ... me being color challenged to the max, Linda picked out
the upholstery. I brought her along thinking she needed to approve the
color like she does my ties and socks, and, as luck would have it, and
ever the nosy female, she went through the upholstery shop's scrap bin
and found just enough to do the job in her color of choice.

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KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)

On 1/16/2013 12:32 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 1/16/2013 11:58 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> Ready for webbing and upholstery:
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5834106345602938562

> Well that looks cool! Find your guy yet?

Yeah, just walked back in from delivering the seat frames to him. He's
older than I remember. LOL

Nice working in the shop this morning at this temperature (48-50F).
Started from scratch, and finished, those seat web frames before lunch
and never broke a sweat.

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KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)

On 1/24/2013 12:06 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:

> Again, everyone is different. A lot of people would question why you
> spend dozens of hours making bar stools when perfectly nice ones are
> available for purchase.

Considering that, by definition, 50% of all people fall on the low side
of the bell curve with respect to many abilities, what "a lot of people
would question" has never been of any concern to me whatsoever.

And, without exception, everything that I design and build is custom in
all aspects, no one else has it, and it is not available for purchase.

Which is why those same "lots of people" pay me, and other folks around
here like Leon, to do the same for them ... and because they can't. :)

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KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)

On 1/24/2013 12:30 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 1/24/13 10:11 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 1/24/2013 10:01 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>
>>> Hey, you know you guys are all wearing the same shirt, right? :-P
>>
>> On the festival circuit, here and in Europe, a certain uniformity
>> commands bigger bucks. That being the case, individuality can be more
>> profitably expressed in boots and belt buckles. :)
>>
>
> "boots and belt buckles" lmao! I think you just wrote a country
> song. :-)

Well, to do that you'd have to throw in a hat ... but that's part of the
uniform. :)

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On 1/24/2013 12:36 AM, Lee Michaels wrote:
have never seen anything like that or heard of it. Maybe she has some
> circus dog in her. I bet it causes people to do a double take when they
> see that sort of thing.

Apparently it is not all that unusual:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T06DEET-5Do

Pandi is not near the exhibitionist this pup is, she's downright dainty
about it; and she doesn't move, just stands in one spot. Class act.

(must be related to that gal in school, pretty good looking country
girl, but not a class act, who would bet you she could pee higher on a
tree than you could if you didn't use your hands ... she could!) ;)

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KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)

On 1/24/2013 10:01 AM, -MIKE- wrote:

> Hey, you know you guys are all wearing the same shirt, right? :-P

On the festival circuit, here and in Europe, a certain uniformity
commands bigger bucks. That being the case, individuality can be more
profitably expressed in boots and belt buckles. :)

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KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)

On 1/23/2013 6:42 PM, woodchucker wrote:

>> Ummm ... what is this??
> A place to lift my leg and act like a male dog????
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836720276036909474


It would have be an act ... she often lifts both hind legs at the same
time and stands on her front legs to pee. Must have some skunk in there
somewhere.

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Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Upholstered web frames attached.
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarS
> tool#5836718721007604562
>
> Ummm ... what is this??
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarS
> tool#5836720276036909474
>
> In designated location ... only took ten years.
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarS
> tool#5836718095818981458
>
> The general idea behind the madness ...
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarS
> tool#5836719778850645682
>
> Onward through the fog ...
>

They look great especially in that wonderful surrounding!

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On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:58:07 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 10/27/2012 2:34 PM, Swingman wrote:
>
>> What the hell, you only live once ...
>
>Ready for webbing and upholstery:
>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5834106345602938562

I like that you routed the top, that has to make for a better
upholstery job.

Mike M

On 1/24/2013 2:53 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
> On 1/24/2013 1:34 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 1/24/2013 12:30 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 1/24/13 10:11 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>> On 1/24/2013 10:01 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey, you know you guys are all wearing the same shirt, right? :-P
>>>>
>>>> On the festival circuit, here and in Europe, a certain uniformity
>>>> commands bigger bucks. That being the case, individuality can be more
>>>> profitably expressed in boots and belt buckles. :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> "boots and belt buckles" lmao! I think you just wrote a country
>>> song. :-)
>>
>> Well, to do that you'd have to throw in a hat ... but that's part of the
>> uniform. :)
>>
> Mama told me I’d be famous,
> If I learned to play guitar
> I’d be known in ev’ry county
> Travelin’ wide and travelin’ far
>
> It took a lot of practicin’
> But Mama’s words were true
> I found a bunch of fellas
> Whose Mamas taught them too
>
> We’re on the road from town to town
> Playing ev’ry roadhouse bar
> They hear us on the radio
> They hear us in the car
>
> They know the songs, yes ev’ry note
> They know the words by heart
> But how can I be famous
> When they can’t tell us apart?
>
> Chorus:
> Matching shirts and ties and matching hats
> Have robbed me of my fame
> We’re only boots and belts and buckles
> …no one knows my name.
>
> Copyright Greg Guarino - five minutes ago.

Precious!! :)

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On 1/23/2013 2:06 PM, Swingman wrote:
> Upholstered web frames attached.

Damn Nice
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836718721007604562
>
>
> Ummm ... what is this??
A place to lift my leg and act like a male dog????
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836720276036909474
>
>
> In designated location ... only took ten years.
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836718095818981458
>
>
> The general idea behind the madness ...
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836719778850645682
>
>
> Onward through the fog ...
>


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On 1/23/2013 2:06 PM, Swingman wrote:
> Upholstered web frames attached.
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836718721007604562
>
>
> Ummm ... what is this??
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836720276036909474
>
>
> In designated location ... only took ten years.
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836718095818981458
>
>
> The general idea behind the madness ...
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836719778850645682
>
>
> Onward through the fog ...
>
If I ever made something as beautiful as those chairs it would be a
sorry man who dared to rest his fat ass on it. :)

On 1/23/2013 3:19 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 1/23/2013 2:10 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
>
>> If I ever made something as beautiful as those chairs it would be a
>> sorry man who dared to rest his fat ass on it. :)
>
> Thanks ... don't mind them sitting so much, as how long they sit for.
>
> Don't want them to be too comfortable. :)
>
Then you have made the decor entirely too inviting. When can I drop by?

Swingman wrote:
> Upholstered web frames attached.
>
>
They look quite perfect. Congratulations!

Bill

On 1/23/13 1:06 PM, Swingman wrote:
> Upholstered web frames attached.
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836718721007604562
>
>
> Ummm ... what is this??
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836720276036909474
>
>
> In designated location ... only took ten years.
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836718095818981458
>
>
> The general idea behind the madness ...
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836719778850645682
>
>
> Onward through the fog ...
>

I ran out of superlatives, long ago, to describe you work. sheesh. :-)


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On 1/23/2013 4:01 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 1/23/2013 2:56 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
>> On 1/23/2013 3:19 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 1/23/2013 2:10 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I ever made something as beautiful as those chairs it would be a
>>>> sorry man who dared to rest his fat ass on it. :)
>>>
>>> Thanks ... don't mind them sitting so much, as how long they sit for.
>>>
>>> Don't want them to be too comfortable. :)
>>>
>> Then you have made the decor entirely too inviting. When can I drop by?
>
> Anytime you're in the city or general vicinity, the phone is easy to
> find ... also being musicians, who at one time traveled over the country
> gigging, we are still a well known way station for the underground couch
> circuit, sometimes putting up entire road bands. :)

Houston's a little out of my usual orbit. I listened to a couple of the
music samples by the way. Sounds good. Have you ever thought to combine
your interests and build yourself a bass?

I found a couple of intersection points between your repertoire and my
informal "life list" by the way. Some years (decades?) back I played a
dozen or so gigs a year with a group that did "Sugar Moon" and "Miles
and Miles of Texas". They did a pretty eclectic mix of styles and didn't
exactly have the proper lineup for Western Swing, but it was fun
nonetheless. A piano player can afford to be pretty active in that sort
of material, especially when there's no fiddle player to step on his uh,
fingers. :)

On 1/24/13 9:36 AM, Swingman wrote:
> When my main axe remains, to this day, a '61 Fender Jazz ... why would I
> want to do that? :)
>
> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rVkv3kxV_hE/UQFUO4xwcJI/AAAAAAAARHI/0OsIZdRQPzs/s1280/synderweek+024.JPG
>

Hey, you know you guys are all wearing the same shirt, right? :-p

>
> Kidding aside, nothing about building a musical instrument of any kind
> has ever appealed to me. Although I am totally impressed with violin
> makers and mandolin luthiers, if nothing else but for the _size_ of
> their projects ... which becomes more appealing which each passing day. :)
>

Turner and I have had a go at building drums, including the shells. His
are particularly exquisite. It's really a labor of love, because after
all the time and effort involved, you would have to charge about $1k to
make any profit and very few people are interested in a snare drum that
costs that much.... unless it's from the 20's and all you can to is look
at it. :-)


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On 1/24/2013 10:36 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 1/24/2013 8:49 AM, Greg Guarino wrote:
>> On 1/23/2013 4:01 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 1/23/2013 2:56 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
>>>> On 1/23/2013 3:19 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>>>> On 1/23/2013 2:10 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If I ever made something as beautiful as those chairs it would be a
>>>>>> sorry man who dared to rest his fat ass on it. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks ... don't mind them sitting so much, as how long they sit for.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't want them to be too comfortable. :)
>>>>>
>>>> Then you have made the decor entirely too inviting. When can I drop by?
>>>
>>> Anytime you're in the city or general vicinity, the phone is easy to
>>> find ... also being musicians, who at one time traveled over the country
>>> gigging, we are still a well known way station for the underground couch
>>> circuit, sometimes putting up entire road bands. :)
>>
>> Houston's a little out of my usual orbit. I listened to a couple of the
>> music samples by the way. Sounds good. Have you ever thought to combine
>> your interests and build yourself a bass?
>
> When my main axe remains, to this day, a '61 Fender Jazz ... why would I
> want to do that? :)
>
> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rVkv3kxV_hE/UQFUO4xwcJI/AAAAAAAARHI/0OsIZdRQPzs/s1280/synderweek+024.JPG

Everyone is different I guess. Our bass player is more promiscuous; his
arsenal hovers at around 25 instruments. And unlike many "collectors",
he plays them all. He used to routinely bring two to each gig, switching
off between sets. He usually only carries one these days though. Age, I
suppose. He's got a prized sixty-something Jazz as well, but it's hard
to say that he has a clear favorite.

> Kidding aside, nothing about building a musical instrument of any kind
> has ever appealed to me.

Again, everyone is different. A lot of people would question why you
spend dozens of hours making bar stools when perfectly nice ones are
available for purchase.

> Although I am totally impressed with violin
> makers and mandolin luthiers, if nothing else but for the _size_ of
> their projects ... which becomes more appealing which each passing day. :)
>

On 1/24/2013 10:36 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 1/24/2013 8:49 AM, Greg Guarino wrote:
>> On 1/23/2013 4:01 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 1/23/2013 2:56 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
>>>> On 1/23/2013 3:19 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>>>> On 1/23/2013 2:10 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If I ever made something as beautiful as those chairs it would be a
>>>>>> sorry man who dared to rest his fat ass on it. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks ... don't mind them sitting so much, as how long they sit for.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't want them to be too comfortable. :)
>>>>>
>>>> Then you have made the decor entirely too inviting. When can I drop by?
>>>
>>> Anytime you're in the city or general vicinity, the phone is easy to
>>> find ... also being musicians, who at one time traveled over the country
>>> gigging, we are still a well known way station for the underground couch
>>> circuit, sometimes putting up entire road bands. :)
>>
>> Houston's a little out of my usual orbit. I listened to a couple of the
>> music samples by the way. Sounds good. Have you ever thought to combine
>> your interests and build yourself a bass?
>
> When my main axe remains, to this day, a '61 Fender Jazz ... why would I
> want to do that? :)
>
> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rVkv3kxV_hE/UQFUO4xwcJI/AAAAAAAARHI/0OsIZdRQPzs/s1280/synderweek+024.JPG

Everyone is different I guess. Our bass player is more promiscuous; his
arsenal hovers at around 25 instruments. And unlike many "collectors",
he plays them all. He used to routinely bring two to each gig, switching
off between sets. He usually only carries one these days though. Age, I
suppose. He's got a prized sixty-something Jazz as well, but it's hard
to say that he has a clear favorite.

> Kidding aside, nothing about building a musical instrument of any kind
> has ever appealed to me.

Again, everyone is different. A lot of people would question why you
spend dozens of hours making bar stools when perfectly nice ones are
available for purchase.

> Although I am totally impressed with violin
> makers and mandolin luthiers, if nothing else but for the _size_ of
> their projects ... which becomes more appealing which each passing day. :)
>

On 1/24/13 10:11 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 1/24/2013 10:01 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>
>> Hey, you know you guys are all wearing the same shirt, right? :-P
>
> On the festival circuit, here and in Europe, a certain uniformity
> commands bigger bucks. That being the case, individuality can be more
> profitably expressed in boots and belt buckles. :)
>

"boots and belt buckles" lmao! I think you just wrote a country
song. :-)


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On 1/24/13 10:22 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 1/24/2013 10:01 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>
>> Turner and I have had a go at building drums, including the shells. His
>> are particularly exquisite. It's really a labor of love, because after
>> all the time and effort involved, you would have to charge about $1k to
>> make any profit and very few people are interested in a snare drum that
>> costs that much.... unless it's from the 20's and all you can to is look
>> at it. :-)
>
> I've seen that ... some beautiful work!
>
> It's can also be all about the sound ... I know some guys who will spend
> what it takes to get that "holy grail of sound" snare for their
> particular music, especially if it records well.
>

Those are the real "one percent-ers."
The people who can, a. hear the difference, and b. care enough about it.
:-)


> I had an old, originally cheap, "Ringo Star" kit as the house kit the
> first studio I built, and later down through the years either had to
> turn down offers daily, or keep an eye out that it didn't grow legs.
> Both the snare and the kick (with rock dot), recorded at 30ips on 2"
> tape, would punch a hole in your chest on playback .... never could
> duplicate that sound with any other kit, despite years of trying.
>
> Then, along came digital, and ProTools ... :(
>

Don't look now, but there are some kids on your lawn! :-p


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On 1/24/2013 1:32 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 1/24/2013 12:06 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
>
>> Again, everyone is different. A lot of people would question why you
>> spend dozens of hours making bar stools when perfectly nice ones are
>> available for purchase.
>
> Considering that, by definition, 50% of all people fall on the low side
> of the bell curve with respect to many abilities, what "a lot of people
> would question" has never been of any concern to me whatsoever.
>
> And, without exception, everything that I design and build is custom in
> all aspects, no one else has it, and it is not available for purchase.
>
> Which is why those same "lots of people" pay me, and other folks around
> here like Leon, to do the same for them ... and because they can't. :)
>
[I clicked "send" (twice actually) prematurely. Age, I suppose. ]

Anyway, I think you're agreeing with me. We decide for ourselves what
things have value and what pursuits seem enticing. Simply having a great
instrument is no argument against trying to build one, if
instrument-building captures your interest.

I have of late taken to woodworking in my own sometimes bumbling
fashion. As my skill is still in its infancy, no one would pay me to do
it and there are indeed things out there for purchase that are of at
least equal quality, and better.

I could argue that the stuff I build has certain advantages over
store-bought. The desk I built fits the available space *exactly* rather
than "well enough". Ditto the bookcase units I'm building now, should I
live long enough to finish them (life has sprung a number of surprise
challenges on us that threaten to require a lot of our time). And
whatever visual imperfections there may be, my stuff is sturdy.

But none of that really explains why I'm doing it. I do it because the
work appeals to me. As I was saying to a friend of mine just the other
day, I like when people *do* things. His "thing" is rock climbing, but
almost anything that's a little difficult - that requires practice and
skill - counts in my book.

So if bass building isn't one of your things, that's your choice. But
what better first project to test out that band-saw template jig than a
solid-body bass? :)

Hell, you could even use your'61 as the template! (I'll start running
now. Good thing I've got a thousand mile head start.)

On 1/24/2013 1:34 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 1/24/2013 12:30 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 1/24/13 10:11 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 1/24/2013 10:01 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey, you know you guys are all wearing the same shirt, right? :-P
>>>
>>> On the festival circuit, here and in Europe, a certain uniformity
>>> commands bigger bucks. That being the case, individuality can be more
>>> profitably expressed in boots and belt buckles. :)
>>>
>>
>> "boots and belt buckles" lmao! I think you just wrote a country
>> song. :-)
>
> Well, to do that you'd have to throw in a hat ... but that's part of the
> uniform. :)
>
Mama told me I’d be famous,
If I learned to play guitar
I’d be known in ev’ry county
Travelin’ wide and travelin’ far

It took a lot of practicin’
But Mama’s words were true
I found a bunch of fellas
Whose Mamas taught them too

We’re on the road from town to town
Playing ev’ry roadhouse bar
They hear us on the radio
They hear us in the car

They know the songs, yes ev’ry note
They know the words by heart
But how can I be famous
When they can’t tell us apart?

Chorus:
Matching shirts and ties and matching hats
Have robbed me of my fame
We’re only boots and belts and buckles
…no one knows my name.

Copyright Greg Guarino - five minutes ago.

On 1/24/2013 8:57 AM, Swingman wrote:
> (must be related to that gal in school, pretty good looking country
> girl, but not a class act, who would bet you she could pee higher on a
> tree than you could if you didn't use your hands ... she could!) ;)

Back in my tender years I once went canoeing with some friends on the
Delaware River. There were 10 of us, a guy and a girl in each of five
rented boats. We came across a tiny island in the middle of the river; a
hump maybe 100' long by 40' wide, covered in tall grass.

On the upriver side were three men, pants at half-mast, returning the
beer back to the Earth near their raft. We all chuckled as we floated by.

A half minute later we reached the downriver tip of the island, where we
found the distaff side of the rafting party: three women, pants around
their knees, butts to the sky.

Six friends relieving themselves on a glorious summer afternoon in view
of passers-by and all Creation, but hidden from each other. Funny
creatures, we humans.

On 1/24/13 2:53 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
> On 1/24/2013 1:34 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 1/24/2013 12:30 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 1/24/13 10:11 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>> On 1/24/2013 10:01 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey, you know you guys are all wearing the same shirt, right? :-P
>>>>
>>>> On the festival circuit, here and in Europe, a certain uniformity
>>>> commands bigger bucks. That being the case, individuality can be more
>>>> profitably expressed in boots and belt buckles. :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> "boots and belt buckles" lmao! I think you just wrote a country
>>> song. :-)
>>
>> Well, to do that you'd have to throw in a hat ... but that's part of the
>> uniform. :)
>>
> Mama told me I’d be famous,
> If I learned to play guitar
> I’d be known in ev’ry county
> Travelin’ wide and travelin’ far
>
> It took a lot of practicin’
> But Mama’s words were true
> I found a bunch of fellas
> Whose Mamas taught them too
>
> We’re on the road from town to town
> Playing ev’ry roadhouse bar
> They hear us on the radio
> They hear us in the car
>
> They know the songs, yes ev’ry note
> They know the words by heart
> But how can I be famous
> When they can’t tell us apart?
>
> Chorus:
> Matching shirts and ties and matching hats
> Have robbed me of my fame
> We’re only boots and belts and buckles
> …no one knows my name.
>
> Copyright Greg Guarino - five minutes ago.


You are one disturbed individual. :-p


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On 1/24/2013 5:52 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 1/24/13 2:53 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
>> On 1/24/2013 1:34 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 1/24/2013 12:30 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>> On 1/24/13 10:11 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>>> On 1/24/2013 10:01 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey, you know you guys are all wearing the same shirt, right? :-P
>>>>>
>>>>> On the festival circuit, here and in Europe, a certain uniformity
>>>>> commands bigger bucks. That being the case, individuality can be more
>>>>> profitably expressed in boots and belt buckles. :)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "boots and belt buckles" lmao! I think you just wrote a country
>>>> song. :-)
>>>
>>> Well, to do that you'd have to throw in a hat ... but that's part of the
>>> uniform. :)
>>>
>> Mama told me I’d be famous,
>> If I learned to play guitar
>> I’d be known in ev’ry county
>> Travelin’ wide and travelin’ far
>>
>> It took a lot of practicin’
>> But Mama’s words were true
>> I found a bunch of fellas
>> Whose Mamas taught them too
>>
>> We’re on the road from town to town
>> Playing ev’ry roadhouse bar
>> They hear us on the radio
>> They hear us in the car
>>
>> They know the songs, yes ev’ry note
>> They know the words by heart
>> But how can I be famous
>> When they can’t tell us apart?
>>
>> Chorus:
>> Matching shirts and ties and matching hats
>> Have robbed me of my fame
>> We’re only boots and belts and buckles
>> …no one knows my name.
>>
>> Copyright Greg Guarino - five minutes ago.
>
>
> You are one disturbed individual. :-p
>
>
You underestimate me. I am at least *several* disturbed individuals.

On 1/25/13 9:08 AM, Greg Guarino wrote:
> On 1/24/2013 5:52 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 1/24/13 2:53 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
>>> On 1/24/2013 1:34 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>>> On 1/24/2013 12:30 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>> On 1/24/13 10:11 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/24/2013 10:01 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey, you know you guys are all wearing the same shirt, right? :-P
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the festival circuit, here and in Europe, a certain uniformity
>>>>>> commands bigger bucks. That being the case, individuality can be more
>>>>>> profitably expressed in boots and belt buckles. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "boots and belt buckles" lmao! I think you just wrote a country
>>>>> song. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Well, to do that you'd have to throw in a hat ... but that's part of
>>>> the
>>>> uniform. :)
>>>>
>>> Mama told me I’d be famous,
>>> If I learned to play guitar
>>> I’d be known in ev’ry county
>>> Travelin’ wide and travelin’ far
>>>
>>> It took a lot of practicin’
>>> But Mama’s words were true
>>> I found a bunch of fellas
>>> Whose Mamas taught them too
>>>
>>> We’re on the road from town to town
>>> Playing ev’ry roadhouse bar
>>> They hear us on the radio
>>> They hear us in the car
>>>
>>> They know the songs, yes ev’ry note
>>> They know the words by heart
>>> But how can I be famous
>>> When they can’t tell us apart?
>>>
>>> Chorus:
>>> Matching shirts and ties and matching hats
>>> Have robbed me of my fame
>>> We’re only boots and belts and buckles
>>> …no one knows my name.
>>>
>>> Copyright Greg Guarino - five minutes ago.
>>
>>
>> You are one disturbed individual. :-p
>>
>>
> You underestimate me. I am at least *several* disturbed individuals.

That explains it. I knew you couldn't have written that on your own.
Always credit your co-writers. :-)


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On 1/25/2013 10:59 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 1/25/13 9:08 AM, Greg Guarino wrote:
>> On 1/24/2013 5:52 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 1/24/13 2:53 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
>>>> On 1/24/2013 1:34 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>>>> On 1/24/2013 12:30 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/24/13 10:11 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/24/2013 10:01 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey, you know you guys are all wearing the same shirt, right? :-P
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the festival circuit, here and in Europe, a certain uniformity
>>>>>>> commands bigger bucks. That being the case, individuality can be
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> profitably expressed in boots and belt buckles. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "boots and belt buckles" lmao! I think you just wrote a country
>>>>>> song. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, to do that you'd have to throw in a hat ... but that's part of
>>>>> the
>>>>> uniform. :)
>>>>>
>>>> Mama told me I’d be famous,
>>>> If I learned to play guitar
>>>> I’d be known in ev’ry county
>>>> Travelin’ wide and travelin’ far
>>>>
>>>> It took a lot of practicin’
>>>> But Mama’s words were true
>>>> I found a bunch of fellas
>>>> Whose Mamas taught them too
>>>>
>>>> We’re on the road from town to town
>>>> Playing ev’ry roadhouse bar
>>>> They hear us on the radio
>>>> They hear us in the car
>>>>
>>>> They know the songs, yes ev’ry note
>>>> They know the words by heart
>>>> But how can I be famous
>>>> When they can’t tell us apart?
>>>>
>>>> Chorus:
>>>> Matching shirts and ties and matching hats
>>>> Have robbed me of my fame
>>>> We’re only boots and belts and buckles
>>>> …no one knows my name.
>>>>
>>>> Copyright Greg Guarino - five minutes ago.
>>>
>>>
>>> You are one disturbed individual. :-p
>>>
>>>
>> You underestimate me. I am at least *several* disturbed individuals.
>
> That explains it. I knew you couldn't have written that on your own.
> Always credit your co-writers. :-)
>
>
Many personalities make light work. I am large, I contain multitudes. :)

On 1/23/2013 7:52 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 1/23/2013 6:42 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>
>>> Ummm ... what is this??
>> A place to lift my leg and act like a male dog????
>>>
>>> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836720276036909474
>>>
>
>
> It would have be an act ... she often lifts both hind legs at the same
> time and stands on her front legs to pee. Must have some skunk in there
> somewhere.
>
Ok, now that's a wierd one, doesn't she wet herself that way.

My male dog will squat like a female when there's no tree or other item
to mark, and that will sometimes get his paw wet...



--
Jeff

On 1/18/2013 10:42 PM, Leon wrote:

>> Robert
>
> Hey... Good to see you!

NO kidding ...

Wabbut, he too es spensive!

LOL


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Upholstered web frames attached.

https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836718721007604562

Ummm ... what is this??

https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836720276036909474

In designated location ... only took ten years.

https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836718095818981458

The general idea behind the madness ...

https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836719778850645682

Onward through the fog ...

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 13:06:05 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836720276036909474

Very nice, I'm impressed. Dog likes them too!

On 1/24/2013 8:49 AM, Greg Guarino wrote:
> On 1/23/2013 4:01 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 1/23/2013 2:56 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
>>> On 1/23/2013 3:19 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>>> On 1/23/2013 2:10 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If I ever made something as beautiful as those chairs it would be a
>>>>> sorry man who dared to rest his fat ass on it. :)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks ... don't mind them sitting so much, as how long they sit for.
>>>>
>>>> Don't want them to be too comfortable. :)
>>>>
>>> Then you have made the decor entirely too inviting. When can I drop by?
>>
>> Anytime you're in the city or general vicinity, the phone is easy to
>> find ... also being musicians, who at one time traveled over the country
>> gigging, we are still a well known way station for the underground couch
>> circuit, sometimes putting up entire road bands. :)
>
> Houston's a little out of my usual orbit. I listened to a couple of the
> music samples by the way. Sounds good. Have you ever thought to combine
> your interests and build yourself a bass?

When my main axe remains, to this day, a '61 Fender Jazz ... why would I
want to do that? :)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rVkv3kxV_hE/UQFUO4xwcJI/AAAAAAAARHI/0OsIZdRQPzs/s1280/synderweek+024.JPG

Kidding aside, nothing about building a musical instrument of any kind
has ever appealed to me. Although I am totally impressed with violin
makers and mandolin luthiers, if nothing else but for the _size_ of
their projects ... which becomes more appealing which each passing day. :)

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 13:06:05 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:

>Upholstered web frames attached.
>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836718721007604562
>
>Ummm ... what is this??
>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836720276036909474
>
>In designated location ... only took ten years.
>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836718095818981458
>
>The general idea behind the madness ...
>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopMissionBarStool#5836719778850645682
>
>Onward through the fog ...

Good color match on the upholstery. They really came out nice. Thanks
for all the pictures you post, it inspires me to head to the shop.

Mike M

On 1/23/2013 3:10 PM, Bill wrote:
> Swingman wrote:
>> Upholstered web frames attached.
>>
>>
> They look quite perfect. Congratulations!

Thanks, Bill ... there are indeed 48 screws, which even "recreational
woodworking group member" chair makers of yore used for their corner
bracing ... but indeed, no face frames joined by pocket holes, cabinet
parts, or <gasp> drawer slides from the "commercial kitchen cabinet
builders" group! ;)

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ly30qTVtvMI/UPmyKZ_5rOI/AAAAAAAAQ24/0YBnPIDl-D4/s1600/13%252C%25202%253A35%253A44%2520PM.jpg


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-c19NOYTHgRw/UPrmlpL0xNI/AAAAAAAAQ3w/ZmoUJG1LqIM/s1600/13%252C%252012%253A31%253A25%2520PM.jpg

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On 1/23/2013 2:56 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
> On 1/23/2013 3:19 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 1/23/2013 2:10 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
>>
>>> If I ever made something as beautiful as those chairs it would be a
>>> sorry man who dared to rest his fat ass on it. :)
>>
>> Thanks ... don't mind them sitting so much, as how long they sit for.
>>
>> Don't want them to be too comfortable. :)
>>
> Then you have made the decor entirely too inviting. When can I drop by?

Anytime you're in the city or general vicinity, the phone is easy to
find ... also being musicians, who at one time traveled over the country
gigging, we are still a well known way station for the underground couch
circuit, sometimes putting up entire road bands. :)

BTW, if you answer the phone while you're hear, and it's Yoko, I don't
want to talk. LOL

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On 1/23/2013 2:10 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:

> If I ever made something as beautiful as those chairs it would be a
> sorry man who dared to rest his fat ass on it. :)

Thanks ... don't mind them sitting so much, as how long they sit for.

Don't want them to be too comfortable. :)

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