We have a lanai off our master bedroom that opens onto a walled garden.
There are two arches, each about 66" x 82", for passage from lanai to
garden.
Originally, we intended to have those arches remain open but the mud daubers
*LOVE* to build on the lanai so I decided to enclose the arches with French
screen doors. The lanai faces east and the summer morning sun is fierce
here in Florida so the secondary reason was to diminish the sunlight.
My total costs for both pairs was a bit over $550. Of that, $275 was for
lumber (rough); the next biggest cost - about $90 -was for screening
materials (7/16 x 1" aluminum channel material (set into dados in rails &
stiles), the rest was for hinges, locks, surface bolts, some ply for a
bending jig, door closers, weather strip material, paint, etc.
That seemed kinda much to me so I just Googled a few places to see what I
could have bought them for. I'm glad I made them myself...prices ranged
from about $400-$979. And that was just the doors. At one place - the $979
place - having them pre-hung doubled the price.
Admittedly, everything seems high to me now but I am semi-stuck in the past.
What do you think, was $550 about right?
Here are a couple of pix...
One set of doors
http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadioh/south-lanai-doors.jpg
Close-up of screen channel...
http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadioh/lanai-door-screen-channel.jpg
_____________________
As long as I'm posting, I might as well expound on some of the difficulties
encountered. The primary one was that the masonry arches were not
symmetrical; nor were they plumb. Hell, they weren't even symmetrical side
to side; i.e., the short side on each of a door pair was different. That
means I couldn't just measure the space to fill and build a door X4 to fit,
had to make each one individually. A pain.
The lanai was tiled, did it years ago. I wanted the doors to abut something
on all edges to help deter insects. That meant I had to cut down a strip of
tile about 6" wide - concrete under it too - then retile so I had about a
3/4" drop for the door to close against. I could have avoided that by using
door sweeps; if I had it to do over I might do that. Nah, better this way
:)
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dadiOH
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On Jan 16, 2:19=A0pm, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
> We have a lanai off our master bedroom that opens onto a walled garden.
> There are two arches, each about 66" x 82", for passage from lanai to
> garden.
>
> Originally, we intended to have those arches remain open but the mud daub=
ers
> *LOVE* to build on the lanai so I decided to enclose the arches with Fren=
ch
> screen doors. =A0The lanai faces east and the summer morning sun is fierc=
e
> here in Florida so the secondary reason was to diminish the sunlight.
>
> My total costs for both pairs was a bit over $550. Of that, $275 was for
> lumber (rough); the next biggest cost - about $90 -was for screening
> materials (7/16 x 1" aluminum channel material (set into dados in rails &
> stiles), the rest was for hinges, locks, surface bolts, some ply for a
> bending jig, door closers, weather strip material, paint, etc.
>
> That seemed kinda much to me so I just Googled a few places to see what I
> could have bought them for. =A0I'm glad I made them myself...prices range=
d
> from about $400-$979. =A0And that was just the doors. =A0At one place - t=
he $979
> place - having them pre-hung doubled the price.
>
> Admittedly, everything seems high to me now but I am semi-stuck in the pa=
st.
> What do you think, was $550 about right?
>
> Here are a couple of pix...
>
> One set of doorshttp://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadioh/south-lanai-doors.j=
pg
>
> Close-up of screen channel...http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadioh/lanai-=
door-screen-channel.jpg
>
> _____________________
>
> As long as I'm posting, I might as well expound on some of the difficulti=
es
> encountered. =A0The primary one was that the masonry arches were not
> symmetrical; nor were they plumb. =A0Hell, they weren't even symmetrical =
side
> to side; i.e., the short side on each of a door pair was different. =A0Th=
at
> means I couldn't just measure the space to fill and build a door X4 to fi=
t,
> had to make each one individually. =A0A pain.
>
> The lanai was tiled, did it years ago. =A0I wanted the doors to abut some=
thing
> on all edges to help deter insects. =A0That meant I had to cut down a str=
ip of
> tile about 6" wide - concrete under it too - then retile so I had about a
> 3/4" drop for the door to close against. =A0I could have avoided that by =
using
> door sweeps; if I had it to do over I might do that. =A0Nah, better this =
way
> :)
>
> --
>
> dadiOH
> ____________________________
Are you sure you're not boasting....err....I mean posting so that we
can see the really nice doors you made?
Kidding! Not about the nice doors, about the boasting. ;-)
$550 for 4 custom arched doors, each a different out-of-plumb
size...installed? Dirt cheap.
Send your plans to a contractor and see what they come back with. I'll
bet they would be over $550 each.
"dadiOH" wrote:
> As long as I'm posting, I might as well expound on some of the
> difficulties encountered. The primary one was that the masonry
> arches were not symmetrical; nor were they plumb. Hell, they
> weren't even symmetrical side to side; i.e., the short side on each
> of a door pair was different. That means I couldn't just measure
> the space to fill and build a door X4 to fit, had to make each one
> individually. A pain.
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For a minute there, thought you were describing a boat <Grin>.
Nice work.
IMHO, you got off dirt cheap.
Lew
"dadiOH" wrote:
> My total costs for both pairs was a bit over $550. Of that, $275 was
> for
> lumber (rough); the next biggest cost - about $90 -was for screening
> materials (7/16 x 1" aluminum channel material (set into dados in
> rails &
> stiles), the rest was for hinges, locks, surface bolts, some ply for
> a
> bending jig, door closers, weather strip material, paint, etc.
---------------------------------------------------------
Based on your descriptions, my guess is you are looking at
$1,500/panel,
$6,000 for the job, for custom fit and hanging of those door panels.
Might get a break and get the job done for $5,000, but I doubt it.
Lew
"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> We have a lanai off our master bedroom that opens onto a walled
> garden. There are two arches, each about 66" x 82", for passage from
> lanai to garden.
>
> Originally, we intended to have those arches remain open but the mud
> daubers *LOVE* to build on the lanai so I decided to enclose the
> arches with French screen doors. The lanai faces east and the summer
> morning sun is fierce here in Florida so the secondary reason was to
> diminish the sunlight.
>
> My total costs for both pairs was a bit over $550. Of that, $275 was
> for lumber (rough); the next biggest cost - about $90 -was for
> screening materials (7/16 x 1" aluminum channel material (set into
> dados in rails & stiles), the rest was for hinges, locks, surface
> bolts, some ply for a bending jig, door closers, weather strip
> material, paint, etc.
>
> That seemed kinda much to me so I just Googled a few places to see
> what I could have bought them for. I'm glad I made them
> myself...prices ranged from about $400-$979. And that was just the
> doors. At one place - the $979 place - having them pre-hung doubled
> the price.
>
> Admittedly, everything seems high to me now but I am semi-stuck in the
> past. What do you think, was $550 about right?
>
> Here are a couple of pix...
>
> One set of doors
> http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadioh/south-lanai-doors.jpg
>
> Close-up of screen channel...
> http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadioh/lanai-door-screen-channel.jpg
>
> _____________________
>
> As long as I'm posting, I might as well expound on some of the
> difficulties encountered. The primary one was that the masonry arches
> were not symmetrical; nor were they plumb. Hell, they weren't even
> symmetrical side to side; i.e., the short side on each of a door pair
> was different. That means I couldn't just measure the space to fill
> and build a door X4 to fit, had to make each one individually. A
> pain.
>
> The lanai was tiled, did it years ago. I wanted the doors to abut
> something on all edges to help deter insects. That meant I had to cut
> down a strip of tile about 6" wide - concrete under it too - then
> retile so I had about a 3/4" drop for the door to close against. I
> could have avoided that by using door sweeps; if I had it to do over I
> might do that. Nah, better this way
>:)
Exquisite work !!!
--
Best regards
Han
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On 1/16/2013 1:19 PM, dadiOH wrote:
> Admittedly, everything seems high to me now but I am semi-stuck in the past.
> What do you think, was $550 about right?
>
> Here are a couple of pix...
>
> One set of doors
> http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadioh/south-lanai-doors.jpg
>
> Close-up of screen channel...
> http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadioh/lanai-door-screen-channel.jpg
>
> _____________________
>
> As long as I'm posting, I might as well expound on some of the difficulties
> encountered. The primary one was that the masonry arches were not
> symmetrical; nor were they plumb. Hell, they weren't even symmetrical side
> to side; i.e., the short side on each of a door pair was different. That
> means I couldn't just measure the space to fill and build a door X4 to fit,
> had to make each one individually. A pain.
>
> The lanai was tiled, did it years ago. I wanted the doors to abut something
> on all edges to help deter insects. That meant I had to cut down a strip of
> tile about 6" wide - concrete under it too - then retile so I had about a
> 3/4" drop for the door to close against. I could have avoided that by using
> door sweeps; if I had it to do over I might do that. Nah, better this way
> :)
Stellar work ... simply said, you put the word "custom" back into custom
woodwork, including installation and trimout!
Here, this'll make you feel better, and give you an idea of the going
rate in this area. Less than two years back, client paid $3600 + for
this double custom door, and had my guys install (not trimmed out yet in
the photos) while we were there doing the kitchen and office:
https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EntryDoorInstallation?authkey=Gv1sRgCM_ogv38gLy5KA
IOW, you did much better than good, Bubba! :)
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Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net
https://plus.google.com/114902129577517371552/posts
http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/
KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
On Jan 16, 1:19=A0pm, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
> We have a lanai off our master bedroom that opens onto a walled garden.
> There are two arches, each about 66" x 82", for passage from lanai to
> garden.
>
> Originally, we intended to have those arches remain open but the mud daub=
ers
> *LOVE* to build on the lanai so I decided to enclose the arches with Fren=
ch
> screen doors. =A0The lanai faces east and the summer morning sun is fierc=
e
> here in Florida so the secondary reason was to diminish the sunlight.
>
> My total costs for both pairs was a bit over $550. Of that, $275 was for
> lumber (rough); the next biggest cost - about $90 -was for screening
> materials (7/16 x 1" aluminum channel material (set into dados in rails &
> stiles), the rest was for hinges, locks, surface bolts, some ply for a
> bending jig, door closers, weather strip material, paint, etc.
>
> That seemed kinda much to me so I just Googled a few places to see what I
> could have bought them for. =A0I'm glad I made them myself...prices range=
d
> from about $400-$979. =A0And that was just the doors. =A0At one place - t=
he $979
> place - having them pre-hung doubled the price.
>
> Admittedly, everything seems high to me now but I am semi-stuck in the pa=
st.
> What do you think, was $550 about right?
>
> Here are a couple of pix...
>
> One set of doorshttp://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadioh/south-lanai-doors.j=
pg
>
> Close-up of screen channel...http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadioh/lanai-=
door-screen-channel.jpg
>
> _____________________
>
> As long as I'm posting, I might as well expound on some of the difficulti=
es
> encountered. =A0The primary one was that the masonry arches were not
> symmetrical; nor were they plumb. =A0Hell, they weren't even symmetrical =
side
> to side; i.e., the short side on each of a door pair was different. =A0Th=
at
> means I couldn't just measure the space to fill and build a door X4 to fi=
t,
> had to make each one individually. =A0A pain.
>
> The lanai was tiled, did it years ago. =A0I wanted the doors to abut some=
thing
> on all edges to help deter insects. =A0That meant I had to cut down a str=
ip of
> tile about 6" wide - concrete under it too - then retile so I had about a
> 3/4" drop for the door to close against. =A0I could have avoided that by =
using
> door sweeps; if I had it to do over I might do that. =A0Nah, better this =
way
> :)
>
> --
>
> dadiOH
> ____________________________
>
> Winters getting colder? =A0Tired of the rat race?
> Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?
> Check it out...http://www.floridaloghouse.net
That looks great, you should hire out as a handyperson.
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:19:22 -0500, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>We have a lanai off our master bedroom that opens onto a walled garden.
>There are two arches, each about 66" x 82", for passage from lanai to
>garden.
>
What the hell is a lanai?
I'm with you, that sounds like a lot of money.
Now days, it would have been three or four
times that (SWAG) to have it done for you.
You got off easy, by doing your own work.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
We have a lanai off our master bedroom that opens onto a walled garden.
There are two arches, each about 66" x 82", for passage from lanai to
garden.
Originally, we intended to have those arches remain open but the mud daubers
*LOVE* to build on the lanai so I decided to enclose the arches with French
screen doors. The lanai faces east and the summer morning sun is fierce
here in Florida so the secondary reason was to diminish the sunlight.
My total costs for both pairs was a bit over $550. Of that, $275 was for
lumber (rough); the next biggest cost - about $90 -was for screening
materials (7/16 x 1" aluminum channel material (set into dados in rails &
stiles), the rest was for hinges, locks, surface bolts, some ply for a
bending jig, door closers, weather strip material, paint, etc.
That seemed kinda much to me so I just Googled a few places to see what I
could have bought them for. I'm glad I made them myself...prices ranged
from about $400-$979. And that was just the doors. At one place - the $979
place - having them pre-hung doubled the price.
Admittedly, everything seems high to me now but I am semi-stuck in the past.
What do you think, was $550 about right?
Here are a couple of pix...
One set of doors
http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadioh/south-lanai-doors.jpg
Close-up of screen channel...
http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadioh/lanai-door-screen-channel.jpg
_____________________
As long as I'm posting, I might as well expound on some of the difficulties
encountered. The primary one was that the masonry arches were not
symmetrical; nor were they plumb. Hell, they weren't even symmetrical side
to side; i.e., the short side on each of a door pair was different. That
means I couldn't just measure the space to fill and build a door X4 to fit,
had to make each one individually. A pain.
The lanai was tiled, did it years ago. I wanted the doors to abut something
on all edges to help deter insects. That meant I had to cut down a strip of
tile about 6" wide - concrete under it too - then retile so I had about a
3/4" drop for the door to close against. I could have avoided that by using
door sweeps; if I had it to do over I might do that. Nah, better this way
:)
--
dadiOH
____________________________
Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race?
Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?
Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net
dadiOH wrote:
> We have a lanai off our master bedroom that opens onto a walled
> garden. There are two arches, each about 66" x 82", for passage from
> lanai to garden.
>
Nice! Very nice.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "dadiOH" wrote:
>
>> As long as I'm posting, I might as well expound on some of the
>> difficulties encountered. The primary one was that the masonry
>> arches were not symmetrical; nor were they plumb. Hell, they
>> weren't even symmetrical side to side; i.e., the short side on each
>> of a door pair was different. That means I couldn't just measure
>> the space to fill and build a door X4 to fit, had to make each one
>> individually. A pain.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> For a minute there, thought you were describing a boat <Grin>.
Been there, done that. On my 42' ketch. Complete with course and raffee.
Cut and fit...cut and fit...
--
dadiOH
____________________________
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[email protected] wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:19:22 -0500, "dadiOH" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> We have a lanai off our master bedroom that opens onto a walled
>> garden. There are two arches, each about 66" x 82", for passage from
>> lanai to garden.
>>
>
> What the hell is a lanai?
Lanai is an Hawaiian word referring to - as [email protected] said - a covered
porch. It is always open on the long side, can be open on either or both
ends as well. They can be at the back, side or front of a house. Most
condos too have a lanai although they are usually pretty narrow.
Some of them are really nice...the closed wall can be opened up via sliding
doors resulting in a large area that flows uninterrupted from the inside
living area to the outdoors. Works in Hawaii, almost nowhere else in the US
(not through the entire year, at least)
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dadiOH
____________________________
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Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "dadiOH" wrote:
>
>> My total costs for both pairs was a bit over $550. Of that, $275 was
>> for
>> lumber (rough); the next biggest cost - about $90 -was for screening
>> materials (7/16 x 1" aluminum channel material (set into dados in
>> rails &
>> stiles), the rest was for hinges, locks, surface bolts, some ply for
>> a
>> bending jig, door closers, weather strip material, paint, etc.
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Based on your descriptions, my guess is you are looking at
> $1,500/panel,
> $6,000 for the job, for custom fit and hanging of those door panels.
>
> Might get a break and get the job done for $5,000, but I doubt it.
>
> Lew
Phew! I sure am glad I had a shop built when we built the house :)
--
dadiOH
____________________________
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Per dadiOH:
> $550 about right?
>
>Here are a couple of pix...
>
>One set of doors
>http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadioh/south-lanai-doors.jpg
>
>Close-up of screen channel...
>http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadioh/lanai-door-screen-channel.jpg
Can't speak to Florida, but up here near Philadelphia we had a
set of French floor-to-ceiling doors put in between the rec room
and the stairs that lead to the rest of the house.
Total was about $1,800 - and the doors are nothing special...
quite the opposite, in fact.
Should'a hired you.... -)
--
Pete Cresswell
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:20:14 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:19:22 -0500, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>We have a lanai off our master bedroom that opens onto a walled garden.
>>There are two arches, each about 66" x 82", for passage from lanai to
>>garden.
>>
>
>What the hell is a lanai?
A covered (usually back) porch.