I need to build a box for SWMBO. It will be used for storing poster
boards, maps, etc. She currently has them stored in a cardboard box
similar to this:
http://www.teachersparadise.com/c/file-n-save-storage-box-chart-31-x-23-x-7-p-8650.html
I'm thinking of using 1/4" plywood and reinforcing the corners on the
outside using molding like this:
http://www.indoorhardwoods.com/assets/images/LP-205.gif
Aluminum angle is also a possibility but then I'd probably need to use
bolts to hold it together.
The ideal box would have no internal fastners to snag the corners of
the posters. I would probably put a low profile wheel on the bottom
of one corner and a foot on the other with a handle up high for
pulling.
She said "I don't want it to be heavy" but the cardboard box is
probably 40lbs when full so weight isn't really an issue.
If I use the wood molding on the outside:
any ideas on how to clamp it?
do you think it will hold up?
Any better ideas?
"Limp Arbor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I need to build a box for SWMBO. It will be used for storing poster
> boards, maps, etc. She currently has them stored in a cardboard box
> similar to this:
>
> http://www.teachersparadise.com/c/file-n-save-storage-box-chart-31-x-23-x-7-p-8650.html
>
> I'm thinking of using 1/4" plywood and reinforcing the corners on the
> outside using molding like this:
> http://www.indoorhardwoods.com/assets/images/LP-205.gif
> Aluminum angle is also a possibility but then I'd probably need to use
> bolts to hold it together.
>
> The ideal box would have no internal fastners to snag the corners of
> the posters. I would probably put a low profile wheel on the bottom
> of one corner and a foot on the other with a handle up high for
> pulling.
>
> She said "I don't want it to be heavy" but the cardboard box is
> probably 40lbs when full so weight isn't really an issue.
>
> If I use the wood molding on the outside:
> any ideas on how to clamp it?
> do you think it will hold up?
>
> Any better ideas?
I would not rely on molding for structural integrity.
What I have done on a few occaisions is to simply make a box by using some
kind of solid wood for the sides with plywwod for the top/bottom. Cheap and
fast, use some pine for the sides. You can either nail and glue the plywood
to it. Or use screws.
Although this not apply to what you are trying to do, Ihave even used 2 X
stock on some big, strong boxes using this technique. But that would not
apply to your situation. 1 X stock should be just fine.
How pretty does it have to be? Can you go solid and utilitarian? Or does it
has to be "furniture"?
On Jun 9, 10:24=A0am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
wrote:
> "Limp Arbor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:968b3ba7-2232-4cf9-b8ca-ce482cdf723d@l28g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> >I need to build a box for SWMBO. =A0It will be used for storing poster
> > boards, maps, etc. =A0She currently has them stored in a cardboard box
> > similar to this:
>
> >http://www.teachersparadise.com/c/file-n-save-storage-box-chart-31-x-...
>
> > I'm thinking of using 1/4" plywood and reinforcing the corners on the
> > outside using molding like this:
> >http://www.indoorhardwoods.com/assets/images/LP-205.gif
> > Aluminum angle is also a possibility but then I'd probably need to use
> > bolts to hold it together.
>
> > The ideal box would have no internal fastners to snag the corners of
> > the posters. =A0I would probably put a low profile wheel on the bottom
> > of one corner and a foot on the other with a handle up high for
> > pulling.
>
> > She said "I don't want it to be heavy" but the cardboard box is
> > probably 40lbs when full so weight isn't really an issue.
>
> > If I use the wood molding on the outside:
> > any ideas on how to clamp it?
> > do you think it will hold up?
>
> > Any better ideas?
>
> I would not rely on molding for structural integrity.
>
> What I have done on a few occaisions is to simply make a box by using som=
e
> kind of solid wood for the sides with plywwod for the top/bottom. =A0Chea=
p and
> fast, use some pine for the sides. You can either nail and glue the plywo=
od
> to it. Or use screws.
>
So simple! I should have thought of that.
I can use 1x8 Pine for the narrow sides and the bottom and the 1/4 ply
for the big sides. I can even get fancy and make a 1/4 x 5/8 rabbit
on the edges of the Pine to hide the end grain of the plywood. This
also addresses any issues with mounting the wheel and handle.
>
> How pretty does it have to be? =A0Can you go solid and utilitarian? Or do=
es it
> has to be "furniture"?- Hide quoted text -
Not fancy, but I wouldn't make it out of CDX. She can cover it with
contact paper or paint it if she doesn't like the look.
On Jun 9, 10:14=A0am, Limp Arbor <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need to build a box for SWMBO. =A0It will be used for storing poster
> boards, maps, etc. =A0She currently has them stored in a cardboard box
> similar to this:
>
> http://www.teachersparadise.com/c/file-n-save-storage-box-chart-31-x-...
>
> I'm thinking of using 1/4" plywood and reinforcing the corners on the
> outside using molding like this:http://www.indoorhardwoods.com/assets/ima=
ges/LP-205.gif
> Aluminum angle is also a possibility but then I'd probably need to use
> bolts to hold it together.
>
> The ideal box would have no internal fastners to snag the corners of
> the posters. =A0I would probably put a low profile wheel on the bottom
> of one corner and a foot on the other with a handle up high for
> pulling.
>
> She said "I don't want it to be heavy" but the cardboard box is
> probably 40lbs when full so weight isn't really an issue.
>
> If I use the wood molding on the outside:
> any ideas on how to clamp it?
> do you think it will hold up?
>
> Any better ideas
I would avoid using 1/4 ply because it's very thin/flexible unless i
had a solid wood base (skeleton) to hang it on. 1/4 doesn't like to
take nails and doesn't have much end to glue to. I would go with 1/2"
ply instead. Some take issue with the ends of ply but if those are
finely sanded and varnished they look pretty good (Danish style).
There are many ways to cover the ends that might be decorative. You'd
mentioned molding. You can find decorative moldings of all kinds from
a hobby store (e.g. Michael's) or you can get creative and add your
own. I'd consider aluminum flashing. It's very inexpensive and easy to
work with and can add a nice touch set agasint the grain of the ply.
If weight is an issue you could build a box out of long solid wood
stips in a lattice, say with 1/2" spacing.
Somebody has to speak up in this poor teacher's defense. I seriously doubt
that "weight isn't really an issue"; 1/2" plywood -- OMG!!!!
How about gluing your proposed wood moldings to the outside edges of the
$10.99 cardboard box with neat joints(maybe dowel reinforced)smoothly
rounded on the corners. Then apply your caster and handle idea or find one
of these that is affordable (I see them in thrift stores sometimes) and of a
suitable size:
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=luggage+dolly&gbv=1&aq=f&oq= In
deciding the location of the wheels consider whether the case needs to
negotiate stairs, doorways, irregular pavement, etc.
David Merrill
"Limp Arbor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:968b3ba7-2232-4cf9-b8ca-ce482cdf723d@l28g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
> I need to build a box for SWMBO. It will be used for storing poster
> boards, maps, etc. She currently has them stored in a cardboard box
> similar to this:
>
>
http://www.teachersparadise.com/c/file-n-save-storage-box-chart-31-x-23-x-7-p-8650.html
>
> I'm thinking of using 1/4" plywood and reinforcing the corners on the
> outside using molding like this:
> http://www.indoorhardwoods.com/assets/images/LP-205.gif
> Aluminum angle is also a possibility but then I'd probably need to use
> bolts to hold it together.
>
> The ideal box would have no internal fastners to snag the corners of
> the posters. I would probably put a low profile wheel on the bottom
> of one corner and a foot on the other with a handle up high for
> pulling.
>
> She said "I don't want it to be heavy" but the cardboard box is
> probably 40lbs when full so weight isn't really an issue.
>
> If I use the wood molding on the outside:
> any ideas on how to clamp it?
> do you think it will hold up?
>
> Any better ideas?
On Jun 9, 9:18=A0am, "Larry C" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Chrisgiraffe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:1c5c7db4-9385-446a-9072-6ec2c763eb31@l28g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 9, 10:14 am, Limp Arbor <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I need to build a box for SWMBO. It will be used for storing poster
> > boards, maps, etc. She currently has them stored in a cardboard box
> > similar to this:
>
> >http://www.teachersparadise.com/c/file-n-save-storage-box-chart-31-x-...
>
> > I'm thinking of using 1/4" plywood and reinforcing the corners on the
> > outside using molding like
> > this:http://www.indoorhardwoods.com/assets/images/LP-205.gif
> > Aluminum angle is also a possibility but then I'd probably need to use
> > bolts to hold it together.
>
> > The ideal box would have no internal fastners to snag the corners of
> > the posters. I would probably put a low profile wheel on the bottom
> > of one corner and a foot on the other with a handle up high for
> > pulling.
>
> > She said "I don't want it to be heavy" but the cardboard box is
> > probably 40lbs when full so weight isn't really an issue.
>
> > If I use the wood molding on the outside:
> > any ideas on how to clamp it?
> > do you think it will hold up?
>
> > Any better ideas
>
> I would avoid using 1/4 ply because it's very thin/flexible unless i
> had a solid wood base (skeleton) to hang it on. 1/4 doesn't like to
> take nails and doesn't have much end to glue to. I would go with 1/2"
> ply instead. Some take issue with the ends of ply but if those are
> finely sanded and varnished they look pretty good (Danish style).
> There are many ways to cover the ends that might be decorative. You'd
> mentioned molding. You can find decorative moldings of all kinds from
> a hobby store (e.g. Michael's) or you can get creative and add your
> own. I'd consider aluminum flashing. It's very inexpensive and easy to
> work with and can add a nice touch set agasint the grain of the ply.
>
> If weight is an issue you could build a box out of long solid wood
> stips in a lattice, say with 1/2" spacing.
>
> Not sure if this is for a classroom but I saw the teacher link.
> I have made a couple of these kinds of boxes for the local elementary
> school. =A0One thing I do when it is going to be in contact with kids is =
a
> round over every possible edge, even the bottom edges you would think lit=
tle
> hands can't get to you. =A0I used glue and screws with corner molding ove=
r
> that. =A0The bottom was in a dado.
>
> I love the look of the lock joint though.
> Never thought of the wheel idea =A0- =A0next one I make will have that.
I would make it using dado & rebate joints (rabbets to the Americans,
rabbits to the illiterates). with 1/4 ply, you could make your dado &
rebates 1/7" wide.
Luigi
Limp Arbor wrote:
> I need to build a box for SWMBO. It will be used for storing poster
> boards, maps, etc. She currently has them stored in a cardboard box
> similar to this:
>
> http://www.teachersparadise.com/c/file-n-save-storage-box-chart-31-x-23-x-7-p-8650.html
>
> I'm thinking of using 1/4" plywood and reinforcing the corners on the
> outside using molding like this:
> http://www.indoorhardwoods.com/assets/images/LP-205.gif
> Aluminum angle is also a possibility but then I'd probably need to use
> bolts to hold it together.
>
> The ideal box would have no internal fastners to snag the corners of
> the posters. I would probably put a low profile wheel on the bottom
> of one corner and a foot on the other with a handle up high for
> pulling.
>
> She said "I don't want it to be heavy" but the cardboard box is
> probably 40lbs when full so weight isn't really an issue.
>
> If I use the wood molding on the outside:
> any ideas on how to clamp it?
> do you think it will hold up?
>
> Any better ideas?
I've built a bunch of plywood boxes using lock miter joints cut on the
router, and they've all turned out incredibly well. I doubt you'd be
able to do it with 1/4" plywood, but 1/2" baltic birch is plenty thick
enough and would work beautifully; I've done plenty of them with regular
construction grade 1/2" plywood as well and they've all worked out
great. Lock miters are the perfect joint for this task, and you get
clean strong joints with no clumsy reinforcing pieces required.
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"Chrisgiraffe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Jun 9, 10:14 am, Limp Arbor <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need to build a box for SWMBO. It will be used for storing poster
> boards, maps, etc. She currently has them stored in a cardboard box
> similar to this:
>
> http://www.teachersparadise.com/c/file-n-save-storage-box-chart-31-x-...
>
> I'm thinking of using 1/4" plywood and reinforcing the corners on the
> outside using molding like
> this:http://www.indoorhardwoods.com/assets/images/LP-205.gif
> Aluminum angle is also a possibility but then I'd probably need to use
> bolts to hold it together.
>
> The ideal box would have no internal fastners to snag the corners of
> the posters. I would probably put a low profile wheel on the bottom
> of one corner and a foot on the other with a handle up high for
> pulling.
>
> She said "I don't want it to be heavy" but the cardboard box is
> probably 40lbs when full so weight isn't really an issue.
>
> If I use the wood molding on the outside:
> any ideas on how to clamp it?
> do you think it will hold up?
>
> Any better ideas
I would avoid using 1/4 ply because it's very thin/flexible unless i
had a solid wood base (skeleton) to hang it on. 1/4 doesn't like to
take nails and doesn't have much end to glue to. I would go with 1/2"
ply instead. Some take issue with the ends of ply but if those are
finely sanded and varnished they look pretty good (Danish style).
There are many ways to cover the ends that might be decorative. You'd
mentioned molding. You can find decorative moldings of all kinds from
a hobby store (e.g. Michael's) or you can get creative and add your
own. I'd consider aluminum flashing. It's very inexpensive and easy to
work with and can add a nice touch set agasint the grain of the ply.
If weight is an issue you could build a box out of long solid wood
stips in a lattice, say with 1/2" spacing.
Not sure if this is for a classroom but I saw the teacher link.
I have made a couple of these kinds of boxes for the local elementary
school. One thing I do when it is going to be in contact with kids is a
round over every possible edge, even the bottom edges you would think little
hands can't get to you. I used glue and screws with corner molding over
that. The bottom was in a dado.
I love the look of the lock joint though.
Never thought of the wheel idea - next one I make will have that.
Larry C
Limp Arbor wrote:
> I need to build a box for SWMBO. It will be used for storing poster
> boards, maps, etc. She currently has them stored in a cardboard box
> similar to this:
>
> http://www.teachersparadise.com/c/file-n-save-storage-box-chart-31-x-23-x-7-p-8650.html
>
> I'm thinking of using 1/4" plywood and reinforcing the corners on the
> outside using molding like this:
> http://www.indoorhardwoods.com/assets/images/LP-205.gif
> Aluminum angle is also a possibility but then I'd probably need to use
> bolts to hold it together.
>
> The ideal box would have no internal fastners to snag the corners of
> the posters. I would probably put a low profile wheel on the bottom
> of one corner and a foot on the other with a handle up high for
> pulling.
>
> She said "I don't want it to be heavy" but the cardboard box is
> probably 40lbs when full so weight isn't really an issue.
>
> If I use the wood molding on the outside:
> any ideas on how to clamp it?
> do you think it will hold up?
>
> Any better ideas?
You probably want something like a map or blueprint file. Here's a bunch.
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&_nkw=map+file&_sacat=See-All-Categories
I see them for free from time to time on Craigslist.