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"todd"

15/06/2006 9:22 PM

Mix satin and gloss poly?

I was in the local hardwood store a couple of weeks ago with the missus when
I overheard a conversation between another couple and a store employee.
They were looking at polyurethane. The store carried what they were looking
for in only satin and gloss. They were after something in a semi-gloss. I
suspect that they could buy some of each and mix to obtain the desired
sheen. My understanding is that it is just the amount of flattening agent
that creates the level of sheen. Is that correct?

todd


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"Robatoy"

in reply to "todd" on 15/06/2006 9:22 PM

15/06/2006 7:31 PM


todd wrote:
[snip] They were after something in a semi-gloss. I
> suspect that they could buy some of each and mix to obtain the desired
> sheen. My understanding is that it is just the amount of flattening agent
> that creates the level of sheen. Is that correct?
>
Absolutely. In fact, I buy Sikkens Autocryl Matting Clear to add, as I
wish, to High gloss Autocryl Clear. It gives me a range from one end to
the other. Wet-look to VERY matte.... and all points in between. ( I
only shoot that stuff on panels placed directly next to a range...high
service areas etc.... just too cost-prohibitive for every-day use.)
I would suggest to stick to the same chemistry when blending. IOW..
don't add a gloss from MinWax to a matte from Benjamin Moore....
In most cases, the matting agent is just sand. (Ultra-fine ground
silica)

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in reply to "todd" on 15/06/2006 9:22 PM

16/06/2006 5:27 AM

On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 21:22:21 -0500, "todd" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I was in the local hardwood store a couple of weeks ago with the missus when
>I overheard a conversation between another couple and a store employee.
>They were looking at polyurethane. The store carried what they were looking
>for in only satin and gloss. They were after something in a semi-gloss. I
>suspect that they could buy some of each and mix to obtain the desired
>sheen. My understanding is that it is just the amount of flattening agent
>that creates the level of sheen. Is that correct?
>
>todd

Better to always use gloss then buff out with steel wool or sandpaper
to degloss. Or at the very least, only use satin/semi for the final
coat. Using it for all coats tends to look bad because the particles
in the polyurethane make the finish look 'muddy'.

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No

in reply to "todd" on 15/06/2006 9:22 PM

16/06/2006 6:48 PM

todd wrote:
> I was in the local hardwood store a couple of weeks ago with the missus when
> I overheard a conversation between another couple and a store employee.
> They were looking at polyurethane. The store carried what they were looking
> for in only satin and gloss. They were after something in a semi-gloss. I
> suspect that they could buy some of each and mix to obtain the desired
> sheen. My understanding is that it is just the amount of flattening agent
> that creates the level of sheen. Is that correct?
>
> todd
>
>
Isn't satin another word for semi-gloss?

In other words is it...
Gloss
semi-gloss/satin
flat

or is it
Gloss
semi-gloss
satin
flat

meaning satin has less gloss than semi but more than flat. satin is not
flat in my mind. I'm sure every manufacturer is different though.

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"Leon"

in reply to "todd" on 15/06/2006 9:22 PM

16/06/2006 2:33 AM


"todd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I was in the local hardwood store a couple of weeks ago with the missus
>when I overheard a conversation between another couple and a store
>employee. They were looking at polyurethane. The store carried what they
>were looking for in only satin and gloss. They were after something in a
>semi-gloss. I suspect that they could buy some of each and mix to obtain
>the desired sheen. My understanding is that it is just the amount of
>flattening agent that creates the level of sheen. Is that correct?
>
> todd
>

Correct, actually the lack of sheen, but you know that.

bN

"babygrand"

in reply to "todd" on 15/06/2006 9:22 PM

16/06/2006 3:40 PM

You're right that different manufacturers will have different specs for
their particular version of "satin", GENERALLY speaking, satin should fall
out somewhere around 45 to 50 on the sheen meter, with full gloss coming in
around 65 to 75, and dead flat at 20 or less. A sheen meter measures
"specular gloss", or what percent of light is reflected by a surface( at an
approximate angle of 45 degrees to the surface). The only way to really
tell is spray a test surface with two or three coats, and then see if you
like it.



babygrand
"No" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> todd wrote:
> > I was in the local hardwood store a couple of weeks ago with the missus
when
> > I overheard a conversation between another couple and a store employee.
> > They were looking at polyurethane. The store carried what they were
looking
> > for in only satin and gloss. They were after something in a semi-gloss.
I
> > suspect that they could buy some of each and mix to obtain the desired
> > sheen. My understanding is that it is just the amount of flattening
agent
> > that creates the level of sheen. Is that correct?
> >
> > todd
> >
> >
> Isn't satin another word for semi-gloss?
>
> In other words is it...
> Gloss
> semi-gloss/satin
> flat
>
> or is it
> Gloss
> semi-gloss
> satin
> flat
>
> meaning satin has less gloss than semi but more than flat. satin is not
> flat in my mind. I'm sure every manufacturer is different though.
>
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