I've got a drawer full of less than desirable combo types, from
Craftsman, to Makita, to DeWalt.
About every four or five years I get fed up and go on a quest for
something better. Something preferably two ended - for times like
drilling pilot holes with one end, driving screws with the other.
Magnetic would probably be a plus, so would something that is not easy
to lose/misplace, and with parts that don't strip out when you look at
'em, as long as we're dreaming.
What's the best screwdriver/drill bit holder solution you've found?
Is there an ultimate?
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"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've got a drawer full of less than desirable combo types, from Craftsman,
> to Makita, to DeWalt.
>
> About every four or five years I get fed up and go on a quest for
> something better. Something preferably two ended - for times like drilling
> pilot holes with one end, driving screws with the other.
>
> Magnetic would probably be a plus, so would something that is not easy to
> lose/misplace, and with parts that don't strip out when you look at 'em,
> as long as we're dreaming.
>
> What's the best screwdriver/drill bit holder solution you've found?
>
> Is there an ultimate?
Yes there is the ultimate!
Shame on you for not knowing.... ;~)
http://www.festoolusa.com/products/cordless-drills/t-123-lithium-ion-cordless-drill-set-features-564247.html
On Apr 15, 7:49=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've got a drawer full of less than desirable combo types, from
> Craftsman, to Makita, to DeWalt.
>
> About every four or five years I get fed up and go on a quest for
> something better. Something preferably two ended - for times like
> drilling pilot holes with one end, driving screws with the other.
>
> Magnetic would probably be a plus, so would something that is not easy
> to lose/misplace, and with parts that don't strip out when you look at
> 'em, as long as we're dreaming.
>
> What's the best screwdriver/drill bit holder solution you've found?
>
> Is there an ultimate?
I've tried a bunch of the combo things as well, and find them fussy.
If I'm just drilling for a few, they're fine, but if I'm doing a bunch
I have redundant drills so I use them. It doesn't take any more time
to reach for another drill than to switch the bits around.
R
"Swingman" wrote:
> I've got a drawer full of less than desirable combo types, from
> Craftsman, to Makita, to DeWalt.
>
> About every four or five years I get fed up and go on a quest for
> something better. Something preferably two ended - for times like
> drilling pilot holes with one end, driving screws with the other.
--------------------------------------------
IMHO, they are all over engineered and under peckered for doing more
tha a few holes.
The two dedicated drill approach works for me, it's faster.
Lew
On 4/16/2010 9:19 AM, Robatoy wrote:
> Rob Lee has one that is mentioned in a post on this thread.
Damn ... that post didn't show up until I went to Google. Chris' posts
usually show up?
That might work ... thanks.
> I guess it all comes down to the application.
Indeed it does. The application at the moment is not cabinet work, or
even FWW, but small structures where both a framing nailer, and screws,
which must be countersunk, are needed ... walking around with two drills
AND a framing nailer is not something I want to do.
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On Apr 15, 7:49=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've got a drawer full of less than desirable combo types, from
> Craftsman, to Makita, to DeWalt.
>
> About every four or five years I get fed up and go on a quest for
> something better. Something preferably two ended - for times like
> drilling pilot holes with one end, driving screws with the other.
>
> Magnetic would probably be a plus, so would something that is not easy
> to lose/misplace, and with parts that don't strip out when you look at
> 'em, as long as we're dreaming.
>
> What's the best screwdriver/drill bit holder solution you've found?
>
> Is there an ultimate?
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 4/15/2010
> KarlC@ (the obvious)
I agree with others here that the two-drill/fastener approach is right
for me. I bought a pair if these:
http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Tools/Pages/BoschProductDetail.aspx?pid=
=3DPS40-2A
They came two-to-a-bag for $ 160.00 Kanuckistani sheckles. I am very
happy with them. One is different than the other because it has an
adjustable clutch, the other is a rattler. For me it was a good choice
because I already had the adjustable angle 12v Bosch driver.
I have also tried every conceivable bit-holder and have yet to be
happy with any of them.
On Apr 15, 6:49=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> What's the best screwdriver/drill bit holder solution you've found?
>
The one I just put down and can't find now (grin).
> Is there an ultimate?
No. An ultimate for a specific job (or maybe *type* of job, but I
haven't found a solution that works well for all situations. I may be
pushing the envelope more than most, though. I work on tiny stuff
like card and ring boxes, and then home renovation projects, and then
back to some light joinery and cabinet construction. I've got
cordless (and corded and "manual") drills with different capabilities
too. Sometimes I need power, sometimes a light touch. It's good to
have a selection to choose from (mabe ONE will work!).
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:49:43 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>I've got a drawer full of less than desirable combo types, from
>Craftsman, to Makita, to DeWalt.
>
>About every four or five years I get fed up and go on a quest for
>something better. Something preferably two ended - for times like
>drilling pilot holes with one end, driving screws with the other.
>
>Magnetic would probably be a plus, so would something that is not easy
>to lose/misplace, and with parts that don't strip out when you look at
>'em, as long as we're dreaming.
>
>What's the best screwdriver/drill bit holder solution you've found?
>
>Is there an ultimate?
Probably not an altimate as each varies. Till I was injured I did
electrical work up poles. I found the Hitachi electric screwdriver
was great for me. I'm on my 3rd one. Comes with 2 LI batteries that
seem to last along time even in cold weather. Screwdriver with 2
batteries charger and a couple of bits about $65. I liked that the
bits locked in as if y our 40' in the air a bit on the ground is lost
or useless. . Always wondered what that curve in ths shank was for.
For me I loose magnetic bits constanty and as stated they drop along
way. Note the toggle control is on the left side. No problem for me
but for some could be a deal breaker. For bench work I'm sure I
would go magnetic. An electric screwdriver isn't made to drive screws
all day. I still like my old Makita 9.6 for that. Swingman your use
will be different then mine, but I'm sure your buddy can recommend a
similarly colored tool. 8-) For production work I have so much 18
volt Dewalt I'll probably be buried with it as it does the job well.
Mike M
Mike M
On Apr 16, 10:40=A0am, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 4/16/2010 9:19 AM, Robatoy wrote:
>
> > Rob Lee has one that is mentioned in a post on this thread.
>
> Damn ... that post didn't show up until I went to Google. Chris' posts
> usually show up?
>
> That might work ... thanks.
>
> > I guess it all comes down to the application.
>
> Indeed it does. The application at the moment is not cabinet work, or
> even FWW, but small structures where both a framing nailer, and screws,
> which must be countersunk, are needed ... walking around with two drills
> AND a framing nailer is not something I want to do.
>
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> KarlC@ (the obvious)
You can always put those chickencoops on a rotating table so you won't
have to walk around them at all.
.
.
.
g,d&r
On 04/15/2010 05:49 PM, Swingman wrote:
> What's the best screwdriver/drill bit holder solution you've found?
I've never used it, but this one looks interesting as it also
incorporates a countersink. Dedicated to one size of drill bit though.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=48336&cat=1,180,42240
Normally I just use multiple drills. :)
Chris
On 4/15/2010 10:26 PM, Mike M wrote:
> would go magnetic. An electric screwdriver isn't made to drive screws
> all day. I still like my old Makita 9.6 for that. Swingman your use
> will be different then mine, but I'm sure your buddy can recommend a
> similarly colored tool. 8-) For production work I have so much 18
> volt Dewalt I'll probably be buried with it as it does the job well.
Drills a plenty ... it's the bit/combo bit holders I'm asking about. The
only one I have that comes close to actually being convenient is a DeWalt.
I was hoping I'd missed a better solution somehow. Seems I'm not the
only one who could use one ...
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 23:46:13 -0500, the infamous
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> scrawled the
following:
>On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 21:29:07 -0700, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:41:02 -0500, the infamous Swingman
>><[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>
>>>On 4/15/2010 10:26 PM, Mike M wrote:
>>>
>>>> would go magnetic. An electric screwdriver isn't made to drive screws
>>>> all day. I still like my old Makita 9.6 for that. Swingman your use
>>>> will be different then mine, but I'm sure your buddy can recommend a
>>>> similarly colored tool. 8-) For production work I have so much 18
>>>> volt Dewalt I'll probably be buried with it as it does the job well.
>>>
>>>Drills a plenty ... it's the bit/combo bit holders I'm asking about. The
>>>only one I have that comes close to actually being convenient is a DeWalt.
>>
>>I have two extensions which work for quick change on the Ryobi. One is
>>medium length and one is long. Neither is handy unless I have plenty
>>of room, and that only happens one out of seven times or so. I adore
>>the short nose of the Impactor.
>
>The Impactor is great, isn't it?
Absolutely the most-used tool in my box(es). I adore it!
>I also have the similar drill and
>screwdriver (came free with the Impactor). I have a bunch of extensions, of
>every make (Dewalt, Bosch, Makita,...) that I've collected over the years. I
>*rarely* use any because they just get in the way. If I need a longer bit I
>use a longer bit.
I'm quickly drifting in that direction, too. I just wish the long
phillips bits didn't break so easily. Any tilt at all on those and
the tips break off, and with a 6" bit, tilt is far too easy to happen.
and I'd much rather have 6" of solid bit rather than an extension and
bit which lose something in the translation. I can feel the screw
going into the wood through a bit but not as well with an extension.
>>>I was hoping I'd missed a better solution somehow. Seems I'm not the
>>>only one who could use one ...
>>
>>I more often swap drills, too. Drill with the Ryobi, impact with the
>>Bosch 14.5, soon to be Makita 18v Lithium.
>
>I have perhaps ten cordless drills so quick change isn't a priority. If I'm
>carrying them around, the two Bosch 12V (Impactor and drill) are small and
>pretty light. If I need more power I have a couple of 18V Dewalts.
Ayup.
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 21:29:07 -0700, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:41:02 -0500, the infamous Swingman
><[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>>On 4/15/2010 10:26 PM, Mike M wrote:
>>
>>> would go magnetic. An electric screwdriver isn't made to drive screws
>>> all day. I still like my old Makita 9.6 for that. Swingman your use
>>> will be different then mine, but I'm sure your buddy can recommend a
>>> similarly colored tool. 8-) For production work I have so much 18
>>> volt Dewalt I'll probably be buried with it as it does the job well.
>>
>>Drills a plenty ... it's the bit/combo bit holders I'm asking about. The
>>only one I have that comes close to actually being convenient is a DeWalt.
>
>I have two extensions which work for quick change on the Ryobi. One is
>medium length and one is long. Neither is handy unless I have plenty
>of room, and that only happens one out of seven times or so. I adore
>the short nose of the Impactor.
The Impactor is great, isn't it? I also have the similar drill and
screwdriver (came free with the Impactor). I have a bunch of extensions, of
every make (Dewalt, Bosch, Makita,...) that I've collected over the years. I
*rarely* use any because they just get in the way. If I need a longer bit I
use a longer bit.
>>I was hoping I'd missed a better solution somehow. Seems I'm not the
>>only one who could use one ...
>
>I more often swap drills, too. Drill with the Ryobi, impact with the
>Bosch 14.5, soon to be Makita 18v Lithium.
I have perhaps ten cordless drills so quick change isn't a priority. If I'm
carrying them around, the two Bosch 12V (Impactor and drill) are small and
pretty light. If I need more power I have a couple of 18V Dewalts.
On 4/16/2010 12:42 PM, Leon wrote:
> "Swingman"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I've got a drawer full of less than desirable combo types, from Craftsman,
>> to Makita, to DeWalt.
>>
>> About every four or five years I get fed up and go on a quest for
>> something better. Something preferably two ended - for times like drilling
>> pilot holes with one end, driving screws with the other.
>>
>> Magnetic would probably be a plus, so would something that is not easy to
>> lose/misplace, and with parts that don't strip out when you look at 'em,
>> as long as we're dreaming.
>>
>> What's the best screwdriver/drill bit holder solution you've found?
>>
>> Is there an ultimate?
>
> Yes there is the ultimate!
>
> Shame on you for not knowing.... ;~)
>
> http://www.festoolusa.com/products/cordless-drills/t-123-lithium-ion-cordless-drill-set-features-564247.html
LOL ... yep, that's a bit holder OK, but I was thinking more along the
lines of $10 to $20. ;)
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:54:43 -0500, the infamous Swingman
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>On 4/16/2010 12:42 PM, Leon wrote:
>> "Swingman"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> I've got a drawer full of less than desirable combo types, from Craftsman,
>>> to Makita, to DeWalt.
>>>
>>> About every four or five years I get fed up and go on a quest for
>>> something better. Something preferably two ended - for times like drilling
>>> pilot holes with one end, driving screws with the other.
>>>
>>> Magnetic would probably be a plus, so would something that is not easy to
>>> lose/misplace, and with parts that don't strip out when you look at 'em,
>>> as long as we're dreaming.
>>>
>>> What's the best screwdriver/drill bit holder solution you've found?
>>>
>>> Is there an ultimate?
>>
>> Yes there is the ultimate!
>>
>> Shame on you for not knowing.... ;~)
>>
>> http://www.festoolusa.com/products/cordless-drills/t-123-lithium-ion-cordless-drill-set-features-564247.html
>
>LOL ... yep, that's a bit holder OK, but I was thinking more along the
>lines of $10 to $20. ;)
Those T 12 + 3s are only $400 at www.Highlandwoodworking.com , $450
for the T15 + 3. And they don't come with all the goodies shown in the
original link, nor do they offer impact. Oh, well. I guess I'll keep
doing what I've been doing, happily.
---
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because the experience of reading is not passive.
--Erica Jong
On Apr 16, 9:54=A0am, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 4/16/2010 8:34 AM, Robatoy wrote:
>
> > I agree with others here that the two-drill/fastener approach is right
> > for me.
>
> I've basically got the drills covered, before I get any more I have to
> complete the "router for every bit" plan ...
>
> > I have also tried every conceivable bit-holder and have yet to be
> > happy with any of them.
>
> That's too bad ... I was hoping some of the more tool saavy would have a
> solution I just hadn't stumbled upon.
>
> Sounds like an opportunity for Rob Lee.
>
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> Last update: 4/15/2010
> KarlC@ (the obvious)
Rob Lee has one that is mentioned in a post on this thread. My
requirements have always been based on being inside a cabinet, on my
back pre-drilling and screwing upwards towards the bottom of a
countertop. I most cases, there is no room for my second arm/hand to
change a bit, but I can grab a pre-positioned small, lightweight,
illuminating impact drill.
I guess it all comes down to the application.
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:41:02 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 4/15/2010 10:26 PM, Mike M wrote:
>
>> would go magnetic. An electric screwdriver isn't made to drive screws
>> all day. I still like my old Makita 9.6 for that. Swingman your use
>> will be different then mine, but I'm sure your buddy can recommend a
>> similarly colored tool. 8-) For production work I have so much 18
>> volt Dewalt I'll probably be buried with it as it does the job well.
>
>Drills a plenty ... it's the bit/combo bit holders I'm asking about. The
>only one I have that comes close to actually being convenient is a DeWalt.
>
>I was hoping I'd missed a better solution somehow. Seems I'm not the
>only one who could use one ...
On that basis the kit I've used uses a quick change 1/4" hex witch
locks but is quick release.
>http://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-728119-20-Piece-Drilling-Driving/dp/B000288LKG/ref=pd_sim_dbs_hi_6
Don't know about other which sizes of drill bits are available but the
bits change easily and don't fall out.
Mike M
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:54:19 -0500, the infamous Swingman
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>On 4/16/2010 8:34 AM, Robatoy wrote:
>
>> I agree with others here that the two-drill/fastener approach is right
>> for me.
>
>I've basically got the drills covered, before I get any more I have to
>complete the "router for every bit" plan ...
>
>> I have also tried every conceivable bit-holder and have yet to be
>> happy with any of them.
>
>That's too bad ... I was hoping some of the more tool saavy would have a
>solution I just hadn't stumbled upon.
The impactor has a 1/4" quick change mouf, BTW. I've used the hex
billdrits in it without any problems when my Ryobi battery was gone.
>Sounds like an opportunity for Rob Lee.
Nah, too small potatoes for him. He only goes for the 3 million/year
products, like the Veritas® Variable Gang Saw and the Veritas®
Full-Round Spokeshave. Truly hot sellers, they!
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because the experience of reading is not passive.
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:41:02 -0500, the infamous Swingman
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>On 4/15/2010 10:26 PM, Mike M wrote:
>
>> would go magnetic. An electric screwdriver isn't made to drive screws
>> all day. I still like my old Makita 9.6 for that. Swingman your use
>> will be different then mine, but I'm sure your buddy can recommend a
>> similarly colored tool. 8-) For production work I have so much 18
>> volt Dewalt I'll probably be buried with it as it does the job well.
>
>Drills a plenty ... it's the bit/combo bit holders I'm asking about. The
>only one I have that comes close to actually being convenient is a DeWalt.
I have two extensions which work for quick change on the Ryobi. One is
medium length and one is long. Neither is handy unless I have plenty
of room, and that only happens one out of seven times or so. I adore
the short nose of the Impactor.
>I was hoping I'd missed a better solution somehow. Seems I'm not the
>only one who could use one ...
I more often swap drills, too. Drill with the Ryobi, impact with the
Bosch 14.5, soon to be Makita 18v Lithium.
---
A book burrows into your life in a very profound way
because the experience of reading is not passive.
--Erica Jong
On 4/16/2010 8:34 AM, Robatoy wrote:
> I agree with others here that the two-drill/fastener approach is right
> for me.
I've basically got the drills covered, before I get any more I have to
complete the "router for every bit" plan ...
> I have also tried every conceivable bit-holder and have yet to be
> happy with any of them.
That's too bad ... I was hoping some of the more tool saavy would have a
solution I just hadn't stumbled upon.
Sounds like an opportunity for Rob Lee.
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