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"Virgle"

13/08/2007 12:19 AM

Table saw blade help

Who makes the best 10 inch table saw blade. I would like a blade that will
do rip cuts smooth enough for a glue joint.
I will be building a corner cabinet out of black walnut so I figured I had
better start with a good blade.
Have to keep the wife happy.

Thanks for any help

Virgle


This topic has 21 replies

c

in reply to "Virgle" on 13/08/2007 12:19 AM

13/08/2007 10:47 AM

Forrest Woodworker II, use them and you'll find out why major
production houses rely on them. I have two so I can rotate when one
needs a sharpening back at Forrest.

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 00:19:28 GMT, "Virgle" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Who makes the best 10 inch table saw blade. I would like a blade that will
>do rip cuts smooth enough for a glue joint.
>I will be building a corner cabinet out of black walnut so I figured I had
>better start with a good blade.
>Have to keep the wife happy.
>
>Thanks for any help
>
>Virgle
>

JJ

in reply to "Virgle" on 13/08/2007 12:19 AM

13/08/2007 7:52 PM

Mon, Aug 13, 2007, 12:19am (EDT+4) [email protected] (Virgle) doth queryeth:
Who makes the best 10 inch table saw blade. I would like a blade <snip>

Hehehe I bought a 10" blade awhile back that gives a very nice
smooth cut. Carbide tipped, of course. Don't recall the brand at this
second. Bought it at Big Lots, priced at $9.95. True story.



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

Aa

Andy

in reply to "Virgle" on 13/08/2007 12:19 AM

13/08/2007 9:10 AM

My favorites for the mix
> of work that I do are the Amana and recently the Tenryu. The Amana
> gives me the impression of a mack truck barrelling through anything in
> its way. The Tenryu is more to me like the Euro sports car dashing,
> darting and getting the job done.

Roy,
I've been looking at blades for portable circular saws recently, and
have come across a few very positive reviews of the Tenryu. When you
say it dashes and darts, are you implying it cuts fast but not very
straight? Curious to hear more specifics about this blade...
Thanks,
Andy

ww

whit3rd

in reply to "Virgle" on 13/08/2007 12:19 AM

13/08/2007 1:59 PM

On Aug 12, 5:19 pm, "Virgle" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Who makes the best 10 inch table saw blade. I would like a blade that will
> do rip cuts smooth enough for a glue joint.

I've seen good cuts with Ryobi, Freud, Irwin, Black & Decker, and
my 20-yr-old rusty Craftsman carbide with a few chipped teeth. As
long as
you are careful not to bend a tooth or mount the blade wobbly, or get
it dirty (with sap/glue adhesions), all the modern blades are good,
IMHO.

Spend an extra hour with calipers/dial gages trueing the blade and the
fence, if you
really need the cut quality to remain high. Or an extra quarter hour
with
a good alignment jig. Google "ts-aligner" for instance.

RB

"Rod & Betty Jo"

in reply to "Virgle" on 13/08/2007 12:19 AM

13/08/2007 2:16 AM

Virgle wrote:
> Who makes the best 10 inch table saw blade. I would like a blade that
> will do rip cuts smooth enough for a glue joint.
> I will be building a corner cabinet out of black walnut so I figured
> I had better start with a good blade.
> Have to keep the wife happy.
>
> Thanks for any help
>
> Virgle


Forrest woodworker two gets my vote as well....For cheaper blades or for
rough cutting planter box type stuff I use Oldham.....Rod

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Virgle" on 13/08/2007 12:19 AM

13/08/2007 4:25 PM


"Virgle" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Who makes the best 10 inch table saw blade. I would like a blade that will
> do rip cuts smooth enough for a glue joint.
> I will be building a corner cabinet out of black walnut so I figured I had
> better start with a good blade.


Lots of vendors make good carbide blades.

These days it takes about $200 to get a set containinng 24T, 50T & 80T
blades.

Less than that and you are looking at the bottom feeders.

I have a Freud set, they work for me.

YMMV

Lew


G@

"GarageWoodworks" <.@.>

in reply to "Virgle" on 13/08/2007 12:19 AM

12/08/2007 8:22 PM



"Virgle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Who makes the best 10 inch table saw blade. I would like a blade that will
> do rip cuts smooth enough for a glue joint.
> I will be building a corner cabinet out of black walnut so I figured I had
> better start with a good blade.
> Have to keep the wife happy.
>
> Thanks for any help
>
> Virgle
>

My CMT combo blade produces clean cuts, but I usually take it to the jointer
for a light pass anyway before edge jointing (No flames please).

After you find that 'perfect' blade, you might want to make sure you have it
aligned properly. Check out my review of the TS-aligner Jr -Well worth the
investment. (NO affiliation just a very satisfied user!)

http://www.garagewoodworks.com/TS_aligner.htm

--
www.garagewoodworks.com
>

DS

David Starr

in reply to "Virgle" on 13/08/2007 12:19 AM

17/08/2007 12:38 PM

Upscale wrote:
> "J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Hehehe I bought a 10" blade awhile back that gives a very nice
>> smooth cut. Carbide tipped, of course. Don't recall the brand at this
>> second. Bought it at Big Lots, priced at $9.95. True story.
>
> Sure, I've done that too, but the important thing is *how long* will a
> cheapie blade give you a nice cut? You've skirted the important question J
> T.
>
>
My no name, bought at a Borg, 10" carbide blade is still cutting well
after ten years. Of course I'm just a home hobbyshopper and I use my
saw maybe once a week, whereas a pro uses his once an hour. Us home
hobbyshoppers don't always have to pay for professional grade stuff, we
seldom use it hard enough to wear it out.

David Starr

JJ

in reply to David Starr on 17/08/2007 12:38 PM

17/08/2007 7:55 PM

Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 12:38pm [email protected] (David=A0Starr)
doth sayeth:
<snip> Us home hobbyshoppers don't always have to pay for professional
grade stuff, we seldom use it hard enough to wear it out.

Yep, that's about my feelings too.

However. There's always a however. However, I only buy cheap
small hand tools, pliers, wrenches, etc.. Because, being as I have two
sons, I often only get one time usage out of them, then the tool(s)
mysteriously vanish, and neither son knows anyting. So I only buy cheap
hand tools. Example, they replaced my well pump for me, and needed a
flashlight. I provided them a $1 flashlight (came with 2 batteries
even). Yesterday found it in the drive, where it'd been run over by the
younger son's truck. Sigh. The joys of parenthood.



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

DG

"Dave Gordon"

in reply to David Starr on 17/08/2007 12:38 PM

19/08/2007 3:59 PM

"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 12:38pm [email protected] (David Starr)
doth sayeth:
<snip> Us home hobbyshoppers don't always have to pay for professional
grade stuff, we seldom use it hard enough to wear it out.

Yep, that's about my feelings too.

However. There's always a however. However, I only buy cheap
small hand tools, pliers, wrenches, etc.. Because, being as I have two
sons, I often only get one time usage out of them, then the tool(s)
mysteriously vanish, and neither son knows anyting. So I only buy cheap
hand tools. Example, they replaced my well pump for me, and needed a
flashlight. I provided them a $1 flashlight (came with 2 batteries
even). Yesterday found it in the drive, where it'd been run over by the
younger son's truck. Sigh. The joys of parenthood.


I have a wife like that. I never need to look for secateurs in the garden, since every flower bed has
one lying amongst the plants, where she has been pruning then her butterfly brain has decided to go do
something else halfway through, or else the phone has rung and after she has answered it she has
forgotten what she was doing.
Makes birthday presents easy though. I just buy her a new pair of secateurs. "Darling, how did you
know I had lost my secateurs?"

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to David Starr on 17/08/2007 12:38 PM

18/08/2007 2:58 AM


"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message

However. There's always a however. However, I only buy cheap
small hand tools, pliers, wrenches, etc.. Because, being as I have two
sons, I often only get one time usage out of them, then the tool(s)
mysteriously vanish, and neither son knows anyting. So I only buy cheap
hand tools. Example, they replaced my well pump for me, and needed a
flashlight. I provided them a $1 flashlight (came with 2 batteries
even). Yesterday found it in the drive, where it'd been run over by the
younger son's truck. Sigh. The joys of parenthood.



Reminds me of a meeting of the liars club. Each member got up and told an
elaborate story, some taking 20 minutes to weave their tale. The last man
up simply said "I have two grown children and a flashlight and they all
work" No one could top that.

JJ

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 18/08/2007 2:58 AM

18/08/2007 1:43 AM

Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 2:58am (EDT+4) [email protected] (Edwin=A0Pawlowski) doth
sayeth:
Reminds me of a meeting of the liars club. Each member got up and told
an elaborate story, some taking 20 minutes to weave their tale. The last
man up simply said "I have two grown children and a flashlight and they
all work" No one could top that.

Both my sons work, one in heating and air, the other in
refrigeration; neither's been in trouble with the law. Plus, I've got
about 5 more of those $1 flashlights. So I must be doing reasonably
well.



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to "Virgle" on 13/08/2007 12:19 AM

14/08/2007 5:20 AM


"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Hehehe I bought a 10" blade awhile back that gives a very nice
> smooth cut. Carbide tipped, of course. Don't recall the brand at this
> second. Bought it at Big Lots, priced at $9.95. True story.

Sure, I've done that too, but the important thing is *how long* will a
cheapie blade give you a nice cut? You've skirted the important question J
T.

JJ

in reply to "Upscale" on 14/08/2007 5:20 AM

14/08/2007 3:47 PM

Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 5:20am [email protected] (Upscale) doth sayeth:
Sure, I've done that too, but the important thing is *how long* will a
cheapie blade give you a nice cut? You've skirted the important question
J T.

Ah, but as I seldom use it, should last a long time. However, I do
have a $6 carbide tipped blade in my circular saw, I use fairly
frequently, thst's been holding up well, so far. Of course, if I was
using either on an every day basis, I'd spend $2-3 more, and get some
'spensive blades. If I was doing this for a living, I'd probably go at
least $5 more. LOL



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Virgle" on 13/08/2007 12:19 AM

13/08/2007 2:04 AM


"Virgle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Who makes the best 10 inch table saw blade. I would like a blade that will
> do rip cuts smooth enough for a glue joint.
> I will be building a corner cabinet out of black walnut so I figured I had
> better start with a good blade.
> Have to keep the wife happy.
>
> Thanks for any help
>
> Virgle

There are a few good ones. I have the Ridge Carbide and just did a glue up
today.

www.ridgecarbidetool.com

www.infinitytools.com

Forrest Woodworker II

Probably a few others too.

Nb

Norvin

in reply to "Virgle" on 13/08/2007 12:19 AM

12/08/2007 8:02 PM

Virgle wrote:
> Who makes the best 10 inch table saw blade. I would like a blade that will
> do rip cuts smooth enough for a glue joint.
> I will be building a corner cabinet out of black walnut so I figured I had
> better start with a good blade.
> Have to keep the wife happy.
>
> Thanks for any help
>
> Virgle
>
>
Forest Woodworker II, and forget the jointer has worked well for me.

Dd

"Dave"

in reply to "Virgle" on 13/08/2007 12:19 AM

12/08/2007 9:33 PM

WoodWorker II combo blade with the stabilizer disk. Cuts so clean that you
don't have to do any jointing and very little sanding if any. $120.00.

tt

"tdup2"

in reply to "Virgle" on 13/08/2007 12:19 AM

12/08/2007 8:24 PM

Woodworker 11 (two) blade

"Virgle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Who makes the best 10 inch table saw blade. I would like a blade that will
> do rip cuts smooth enough for a glue joint.
> I will be building a corner cabinet out of black walnut so I figured I had
> better start with a good blade.
> Have to keep the wife happy.
>
> Thanks for any help
>
> Virgle
>
>

dn

dpb

in reply to "Virgle" on 13/08/2007 12:19 AM

12/08/2007 7:40 PM

Virgle wrote:
> Who makes the best 10 inch table saw blade. I would like a blade that will
> do rip cuts smooth enough for a glue joint.
...

There is no "best", but there are many excellent and very good...

Forrest, Freud and others rate well. Can't recall whether the last
reviews in FWW did rip blades as well as crosscut or not...

As the other responder says, I usually don't worry about trying to make
the saw cut the glue edge but plan on cleaning it up on the jointer
anyway. Then, a slight slip or hitch in my getalong going through the
saw doesn't make any difference anyway.

If I were into mass production, I'd look into it more (but then you'd
need/want a power feeder, too)...

imo, $0.20, etc., ...

--

Ri

ROY!

in reply to "Virgle" on 13/08/2007 12:19 AM

13/08/2007 2:41 PM

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 00:19:28 GMT, "Virgle" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Who makes the best 10 inch table saw blade. I would like a blade that will
>do rip cuts smooth enough for a glue joint.
>I will be building a corner cabinet out of black walnut so I figured I had
>better start with a good blade.
>Have to keep the wife happy.
>
>Thanks for any help
>
>Virgle

No such thing as the best blade but there are lots of good ones out
there at varying prices. I took the advice of many here and purchased
a Forrest WWII. It's good. Not outstanding or stupendous. I followed
other advice and got a CMT. It's good but as the WWII not outstanding.
In fact, my CMT needs sharpening twice opposed to once for similar use
for any other blade. The others are all good. My favorites for the mix
of work that I do are the Amana and recently the Tenryu. The Amana
gives me the impression of a mack truck barrelling through anything in
its way. The Tenryu is more to me like the Euro sports car dashing,
darting and getting the job done. So, read the reviews, take advice,
including mine, with a grain of salt. Maybe even visit your local
DeWalt repair/outlet for an excellent deal on surplus or discontinued
blades. I think at this point you'd be better prepared to learn about
blades, their teeth and sets before jumping into the 'what's the best
blade?' pool.

Ri

ROY!

in reply to "Virgle" on 13/08/2007 12:19 AM

13/08/2007 4:31 PM

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:10:02 -0700, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:

>My favorites for the mix
>> of work that I do are the Amana and recently the Tenryu. The Amana
>> gives me the impression of a mack truck barrelling through anything in
>> its way. The Tenryu is more to me like the Euro sports car dashing,
>> darting and getting the job done.
>
>Roy,
>I've been looking at blades for portable circular saws recently, and
>have come across a few very positive reviews of the Tenryu. When you
>say it dashes and darts, are you implying it cuts fast but not very
>straight? Curious to hear more specifics about this blade...
>Thanks,
>Andy

What I mean is that it seems to nimbly cut through whatever is put
into it. It's not brute strength it's more of some sort of super
sharpness that allows it to do its thing. In the past few days I've
used it to cut over 30 pcs of 1/4"x2"x42" strips from some hard cherry
and the blade just seemed to smugly go about its business making the
cuts without balking. I glued up those pieces in my bent lamination
without even thinking of sanding. I don't know how much sense this all
makes to you but at this time I'd call the Tenryu my blade of choice.
ROY!


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