How close to the stem do you cut branches on
a small-leaved linden or "Tilia cordata"?
Right now it is mostly about getting the
downmost smaller branches away so people don't
get them in their heads when working. But might
as well do it the right well as it is probably
just as easy.
Feel free to point at any other secrets of the
trade/tree tho...
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Sonny wrote:
> Page down to the third pic, labeled 1, 2 & 3. You can see the repairing tissue just proximal to the #3 slash mark, hence the cut will be just distal of that tissue.
> https://www.todayshomeowner.com/how-to-trim-large-tree-branches/
>
> Sonny
>
That was good information. Thanks for taking the time to share it.
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On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 8:14:54 PM UTC-5, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> DerbyDad03 wrote:
>
> > How do you know how big his index finger is?
>
> My index finger is ~2cm in diameter where it is
> the largest so somewhat bigger than the 1.27cm
> mentioned. I suppose that's why it is called
> a rule of thumb...
>
It wasn't a serious question. It was related to the image I posted.
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 06:50:43 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 11:34:23 PM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:
>> On Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 10:04:17 PM UTC-6, Emanuel Berg wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > 1/2" = 0.5 inch = 1.27 cm?
>> >
>> > The biggest I've cut so far I'd say were 5-6 cm
>> > in diameter. Then there have been many smaller,
>> > but I wonder if anyone has been as small as
>> > ~1.27 cm...
>> >
>> > I'll bring the calipers next time :)
>> >
>>
>> No need for calipers. I should have considered your metric measure. For anything the size of your index finger (there abouts) and larger, try to locate the collar.
>>
>> Sonny
>
>How do you know how big his index finger is?
That's easy. It's about the size of a branch, where you should find
the collar before cutting.
>
>http://www.scielo.br/img/revistas/rb/v45n1/en_02f01.jpg
On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 7:33:44 PM UTC-6, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> How close to the stem do you cut branches on
> a small-leaved linden or "Tilia cordata"?
There is a ring-like tissue, on the limb (look close for it), near where the limb meets the trunk. Don't cut that tissue. Cut just distal (outside) of that tissue. That tissue helps repair the cut.
If you cut that tissue, the tree won't repair itself correctly... and sometimes, when it's cut too close to the trunk, there is no repair at all.... it starts rotting, rather than repair or scar over the cut site.
Sonny
> https://www.todayshomeowner.com/how-to-trim-large-tree-branches/
Also, on this site, scroll down to "Further Information", there is the video "Trimming Limbs". They refer to the healing tissue as the collar. That's a better term, than my tissue term.
Also, they make note that you don't have to paint a sealant over the cut site. Painting a sealant, over the cut, may trap disease or insect issues inside the cut area.
Sonny
Larry Kraus wrote:
> If you have the space, let the little leaf
> linden branches grow. They will grow back
> down to the ground, root, and grow back up
> and out. There is a very old example of this
> at Jefferson's Monticello - see
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/29295318@N08/10105691884
> (not my picture).
My gosh, how wonderful! ??? :O
A good thing you showed me that because there
are bigger branches just a bit higher up, and
while I didn't really considered cutting them
(for practical reasons not the least) now
I know I definitely won't, ever!
Do you know how to determine/approximate the
age of the tree? My tree, I mean?
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Sonny wrote:
> For really small branches, it may not matter
> if you cut through the collar. Really small
> branches may not matter, so much, for the
> health of the tree. I would take care to fine
> the collar if the branch is 1/2" or larger.
> I suppose the bothersome branches are at
> least 1/2" in diameter.
1/2" = 0.5 inch = 1.27 cm?
The biggest I've cut so far I'd say were 5-6 cm
in diameter. Then there have been many smaller,
but I wonder if anyone has been as small as
~1.27 cm...
I'll bring the calipers next time :)
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Electric Comet wrote:
>> No, it isn't on that level, simply there is
>> a huge tree in the middle of the area and
>> down the stem are little branches that
>> people get in their heads while walking by.
>> So removing them for that and cosmetic
>> reasons BUT not hurting the tree is
>> the plan.
>
> you could also just shorten the branches
> instead of removing them
Right, but there are huge branches on the above
half of the tree. Apart from the practical
aspect it just looks strange for those tiny
branches on the bottom third to shoot off from
the trunk.
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> How do you know how big his index
>>> finger is?
>>
>> My index finger is ~2cm in diameter where it
>> is the largest so somewhat bigger than the
>> 1.27cm mentioned. I suppose that's why it is
>> called a rule of thumb...
>
> It wasn't a serious question. It was related
> to the image I posted.
It wasn't a serious answer either.
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Sonny wrote:
>> How close to the stem do you cut branches on
>> a small-leaved linden or "Tilia cordata"?
>
> There is a ring-like tissue, on the limb
> (look close for it), near where the limb
> meets the trunk. Don't cut that tissue.
> Cut just distal (outside) of that tissue.
> That tissue helps repair the cut.
OK, so cut close, but not into the collar.
The collar tho is not that easy to spot when
the branch is small and you are standing on
a ladder :)
Thanks.
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Electric Comet wrote:
>> Right now it is mostly about getting the
>> downmost smaller branches away so people
>> don't get them in their heads when working.
>> But might as well do it the right well as it
>> is probably just as easy.
>
> you are pruning because you are growing for
> lumber or for people nearby
>
> if you are pruning to grow straight trees
> there is more to it than pruning
No, it isn't on that level, simply there is
a huge tree in the middle of the area and down
the stem are little branches that people get in
their heads while walking by. So removing them
for that and cosmetic reasons BUT not hurting
the tree is the plan.
--
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On 1/8/2018 7:57 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Electric Comet wrote:
>
>>> No, it isn't on that level, simply there is
>>> a huge tree in the middle of the area and
>>> down the stem are little branches that
>>> people get in their heads while walking by.
>>> So removing them for that and cosmetic
>>> reasons BUT not hurting the tree is
>>> the plan.
>>
>> you could also just shorten the branches
>> instead of removing them
>
> Right, but there are huge branches on the above
> half of the tree. Apart from the practical
> aspect it just looks strange for those tiny
> branches on the bottom third to shoot off from
> the trunk.
>
If you have the space, let the little leaf linden branches grow. They
will grow back down to the ground, root, and grow back up and out.
There is a very old example of this at Jefferson's Monticello - see
https://www.flickr.com/photos/29295318@N08/10105691884 (not my picture).
On 1/4/2018 7:33 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> How close to the stem do you cut branches on
> a small-leaved linden or "Tilia cordata"?
>
> Right now it is mostly about getting the
> downmost smaller branches away so people don't
> get them in their heads when working. But might
> as well do it the right well as it is probably
> just as easy.
>
> Feel free to point at any other secrets of the
> trade/tree tho...
>
Might want to check with a gardening news group.
On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 11:00:58 PM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:
> Page down to the third pic, labeled 1, 2 & 3. You can see the repairing tissue just proximal to the #3 slash mark, hence the cut will be just distal of that tissue.
> https://www.todayshomeowner.com/how-to-trim-large-tree-branches/
>
> Sonny
Nice link. Not just how to do it right, but actual examples of what happens when you
do it wrong. Not a lot of room for conjecture when you cover both sides.
On Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 10:04:17 PM UTC-6, Emanuel Berg wrote:
>
> 1/2" = 0.5 inch = 1.27 cm?
>
> The biggest I've cut so far I'd say were 5-6 cm
> in diameter. Then there have been many smaller,
> but I wonder if anyone has been as small as
> ~1.27 cm...
>
> I'll bring the calipers next time :)
>
No need for calipers. I should have considered your metric measure. For anything the size of your index finger (there abouts) and larger, try to locate the collar.
Sonny
On Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 3:55:39 PM UTC-6, Emanuel Berg wrote:
>=20
> OK, so cut close, but not into the collar.
>=20
> The collar tho is not that easy to spot when
> the branch is small and you are standing on
> a ladder :)
>=20
> Thanks.
YW. =20
For really small branches, it may not matter if you cut through the collar.=
Really small branches may not matter, so much, for the health of the tr=
ee. I would take care to fine the collar if the branch is 1/2" or larger. =
I suppose the bothersome branches are at least 1/2" in diameter.
Sonny
On Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 11:34:23 PM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:
> On Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 10:04:17 PM UTC-6, Emanuel Berg wrote:
>
> >
> > 1/2" = 0.5 inch = 1.27 cm?
> >
> > The biggest I've cut so far I'd say were 5-6 cm
> > in diameter. Then there have been many smaller,
> > but I wonder if anyone has been as small as
> > ~1.27 cm...
> >
> > I'll bring the calipers next time :)
> >
>
> No need for calipers. I should have considered your metric measure. For anything the size of your index finger (there abouts) and larger, try to locate the collar.
>
> Sonny
How do you know how big his index finger is?
http://www.scielo.br/img/revistas/rb/v45n1/en_02f01.jpg
On Fri, 05 Jan 2018 02:33:39 +0100
Emanuel Berg <[email protected]> wrote:
> Right now it is mostly about getting the
> downmost smaller branches away so people don't
> get them in their heads when working. But might
> as well do it the right well as it is probably
> just as easy.
you are pruning because you are growing for lumber or for people
nearby
if you are pruning to grow straight trees there is more to it than
pruning
On Fri, 05 Jan 2018 20:18:03 +0100
Emanuel Berg <[email protected]> wrote:
> No, it isn't on that level, simply there is
> a huge tree in the middle of the area and down
> the stem are little branches that people get in
> their heads while walking by. So removing them
> for that and cosmetic reasons BUT not hurting
> the tree is the plan.
you could also just shorten the branches instead of removing them